Re: dictd?

On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:29:58 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 06:53, David Chmelik : >> How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & >> dictionary.index) >> to dictd? Apparently doesn't work same as on *BSD UNIX & Slackware >> GNU/ Linux... > > man dictd: >

Re: disable GUI/X?

On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:06:04 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 04:39 (UTC): >> On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>> David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I d

Re: disable GUI/X?

On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:54:00 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): >> > How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I >> > decide as startx/startxfce/etc. >> >> # systemct

Re: disable GUI/X?

On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:47:58 +0200, tomas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:39:50AM -, David Chmelik wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): >> > >> >> How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run i

Re: disable GUI/X?

Just remove any login-manager like gdm, kdm, sddm and lightdm. For testing purposes, you can eaily remove the binaries below /usr/bin/ to somewhere, for example to /root/. Then reboot and it will not boot into X. Startx will work. And if this is not what you want, just move the binaries back t

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> If there's a better way should be judged on what exactly that app expects. > For the web interface, maybe the http server - or whatever makes the web > interface accessible to the users - can limit permissions. For the rest of > the use cases it would be interesting which circumstances would n

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> Just to learn about it. > What about using acl rather than bind mounts? What should be the > problem in this solution? As i said to Richard, rights are not the challenge here. It's to be able to share a directory across multiple users. For instance you would have : /users/bob/accounting shared w

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> Does it have some logic to avoid descending into bind mounts? Maybe I am > wrong with my expectation that it does not use anything besides st_dev from > stat result. It may be promising case to demonstrate the issue in a way > independent of systemd and sandboxing. You can obtain command line

Re: disable GUI/X?

El Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:47:58 +0200 va escriure el següent: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:39:50AM -, David Chmelik wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > > > > > >> How can I disable GUI/X for next bo

Re: disable GUI/X?

David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 08:40 (UTC): > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 01:06:04 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Slackware uses 4 instead of 5 but otherwise is the same, and still >> focused on SysV. > That's what I wish I could've set in Debian. Ask in a Devuan forum. By now I would suppose they

Re: disable GUI/X?

David Chmelik wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:47:58 +0200, tomas wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 04:39:50AM -, David Chmelik wrote: > >> On Tue, 18 Jun 2024 22:39:15 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > >> > David Chmelik composed on 2024-06-19 02:24 (UTC): > >> > > >> >> How can I disable GUI/X fo

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 23:09:04 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 07:07:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > What should I call the timezone of my computer when it's booted up and > > > no users are logged in? > >

Re: dictd?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 07:51:34 -, David Chmelik wrote: > On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:29:58 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > > ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 06:53, David Chmelik : > >> How can I add a dictionary (I have dictionary.dict.gz & > >> dictionary.index) > >> to dictd? Apparently doesn't work sam

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

On 19/06/2024 05:46, Julien Petit wrote: Rights are not the challenge here. It's to be able to share a directory across multiple users. For instance you would have : /users/bob/accounting shared with Alice and accessible in her home directory /users/alice/accounting Does it really have to be in

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

For this, probably the easiest is to set up a common directory/a few common directories, set up proper permissions through use of groups and worst case create some symlinks from the user's home directories, if these directories really need to be accessible from within their home directories. That's

mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

Dear all: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Many thanks!! Heriberto

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 6/19/24 11:04, Heriberto Avelino wrote: Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Is your computer's hard drive is already mounted? Are you comfortable in a shell? -- For is it not written, wheres

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 7:09 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 23:09:04 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 07:07:36 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 23:54:03 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > What should I call the timezone of my comp

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 6/19/24 08:04, Heriberto Avelino wrote: Dear all: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Yes. Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external one while in rescue mode? Many thanks!!

Re: dictd?

ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 16:18, Greg Wooledge : > > > Place files to /usr/share/dictd and run `dictdconfig -w` and restart > > > dictd service > > > > Thanks! I guess it doesn't work with symbolic links (symlinks) to user > > directories/folders though... > > Doesn't work, how? Do you get permissio

Re: dictd?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 22:15:20 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: > ср, 19 июн. 2024 г. в 16:18, Greg Wooledge : > > > > > Place files to /usr/share/dictd and run `dictdconfig -w` and restart > > > > dictd service > > > > > > Thanks! I guess it doesn't work with symbolic links (symlinks) to user >

Re: disable GUI/X?

On 19/06/24 at 04:24, David Chmelik wrote: How can I disable GUI/X for next boot? I just want to run it when I decide as startx/startxfce/etc. When I occasionally need to boot in the CLI instead of the GUI I boot the system in "recovery mode", it's an option of the GRUB's menu shown at boot

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On Tue, Jun 18, 2024, 11:05 PM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 04:12:07 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 18, 2024 at 4:05 AM wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 11:54:03PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > I notice that man timedatectl says: > > > >

Evolution & ThunderBird

Hello, New user having trouble with evolution. I think that I have it setup correctly, but it will not login to my email accounts. At the bottom of screen it is scanning the email server from my login but then a box pops up indicating that there was an error trying to login and asks for th

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 14:16:14 -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > . > > Reading the link that Walton sent, the only case where RTC clock in UTC is > recommended is in the linux/windows dual-boot case. There's no statement > that RTC should be set to UTC besid

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

Thanks Eben and David! I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) I don't see the mounting points to execute cp. There is nothing under media nor root; under usr I can see only: bin lib local sbin share. Where are the internal h-drive and the external? I would very much appreciate yo

Re: Evolution & ThunderBird

On Wed, 2024-06-19 at 15:16 -0400, Jerry Mellon wrote: > > Hello, > > New user having trouble with evolution. I think that I have it setup > correctly, but it will not login > > to my email accounts. At the bottom of screen it is scanning the email > server from my login but then >   > a box po

How to recover when monitor goes blank.

Hi,   I have my monitor, keyboard and mouse shared through a KVM switch. One host is Linux Debian bookworm 12.5 and another is laptop running Windows 11. When I leave KVM on the laptop side for extended period I have issues switching back to Debian side. When I switch, the screen is blank and

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 6/19/24 15:23, Heriberto Avelino wrote: I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) There is nothing under media nor root Things mounted by the system would probably show up under /media or /mnt . Where are the internal h-drive and the external? To mount those you need

Re: Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

>> However do you need shared subtrees? > I'm gonna test the effect of setting them to private. This doesn't seem to fix the problem either

Re: Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> Does it really have to be in the home directory? Can't the software (and/or > the users) open files in, say, /shared/accounting? It doesn't really matter where folders/mounts are. Users can share any directory (and subdirectories) in their home directory with any other user. The shared folder i

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

> For this, probably the easiest is to set up a common directory/a few common > directories, set up proper permissions through use of groups and worst case > create some symlinks from the user's home directories, if these directories > really need to be accessible from within their home director

Re: Having ten thousands of mount bind causes various processes to go into loops

On 19/06/2024 19:06, Julien Petit wrote: It doesn't really matter where folders/mounts are. Users can share any directory (and subdirectories) in their home directory with any other user. The shared folder is mounted in the special directory "Shared with me" of the recipient home directory. I.e:

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

>> It's *theoretically* possible for some daemons to be configured to use >> a different time zone, or to be hard-coded to use UTC. I've never seen >> this, but it could be done. > In view of that, I think it's reasonable to drop the "default", > and go with "system time zone", ie the time zone th

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On 20/06/2024 02:16, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Servers in data centers don't move around, they just sit there :-) So in my experience servers running anything non-windows have RTC set to local time. That's been on Red Hat/CentOS, Debian, Ubuntu. My experience with Ubuntu is that its installer i

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

> If your system only boots one operating system, and never changes its > default time zone, then it makes no difference whether the RTC is set > to UTC or local time. The OS will use the same assumptions when reading > and writing to the RTC, so everything will remain correct. Of course, the fam

Re: dictd?

On 20/06/2024 00:31, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 22:15:20 +0500, Stanislav Vlasov wrote: In my system mode bits on my home dir are `drwx--` so only my user have access to it. Well, yeah. That's not a default setting 0700 is the current default. See /usr/share/doc/adduse

Re: RTC, was Re: System time/timezone

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 02:16:14PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Reading the link that Walton sent, the only case where RTC clock in UTC is recommended is in the linux/windows dual-boot case. There's no statement that RTC should be set to UTC besides that. And they say right there why it isn't

suggestion of upgrade to 12

Hello, I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite solid. Though I have read this article: https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release do you think there is any need for me to upgrade from 11 to 12? just for the newer software like postfix, doveco

Re: suggestion of upgrade to 12

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:09:35 +0800, Jeff Peng wrote: > I am running a small mailserver with debian 11 for many years. It's quite > solid. > Though I have read this article: > https://www.cherryservers.com/blog/debian-12-bookworm-release > do you think there is any need for me to upgrade from 11

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:23:01PM -0600, Heriberto Avelino wrote: > Thanks Eben and David! > I am now on a shell (BusyBox v.35.0 Debian 1:1.35.0-4+b3) > I don't see the mounting points to execute cp. As far as I know, you have dmesg in the rescue shell. So the way to go would be: - insert your e

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:01:44PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 7:09 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > I strongly disagree. The system clock is kept on "epoch time", which > > is the number of seconds since midnight, January 1, 1970 UTC. > > > > The system clock doesn'

Re: mounting external hard drive from rescue mode shell?

On 6/19/24 12:23, Heriberto Avelino wrote: On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM Heriberto Avelino wrote: Is it possible to mount an external hard drive while running Debian in rescue mode? Furthermore, the ultimate question is how could I copy folders from the computer's hard drive to the external on

Re: How to recover when monitor goes blank.

On 6/19/24 13:45, Ram Ramesh wrote: Hi,   I have my monitor, keyboard and mouse shared through a KVM switch. One host is Linux Debian bookworm 12.5 and another is laptop running Windows 11. When I leave KVM on the laptop side for extended period I have issues switching back to Debian side. W

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:52 AM wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 01:01:44PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 7:09 AM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > [...] > > > > I strongly disagree. The system clock is kept on "epoch time", which > > > is the number of seconds since midnigh

Re: System time/timezone, was Re: Maximum size .bash_aliases file

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 01:22:31AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 12:52 AM wrote: [...] > > Please, keep those three at a safe distance > > I'm not sure how you can disgorge them given they contribute to a > human readable time. I wasn't arguing to disgorge anything --