Re: LaTex Unicode entry issues

I just have a really large list of UTF-8 characters and if I need one I copy it and zap it in. I suppose this is not cool but, chacun a son gout. a fun site if you want to write someone in UTF-8 runes. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.txt ⅩⅩⅥ - Ⅷ - ⅯⅯⅩⅩⅢ -- ☢ ➛ ☠ ➛ ♺

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

* On 2023 25 Aug 23:57 -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 3:50 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 01:26:29PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > Two of the wiki articles that will help with a migration to Debian are > > > and

Re: Debugging initramfs, server hangs during boot process

On 2023-08-26, Tixy wrote: >> I thought of that, too, but debug writes to a tmpfs (it has to, at this >> point). If the machine locks up, the log is lost... > > Logs will appear on the screen so long as you don't have the 'quiet' > parameter on the Linux commandline. I think it always writes to t

AW: Debugging initramfs, server hangs during boot process

I had debug on the command line before, just didn't know of debug=vc However the output on the screen is the same with either one. Last line is clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc Looking at the stuff in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts I think I would need to mess the shell scripts with d

Re: AW: Debugging initramfs, server hangs during boot process

On Sat, 2023-08-26 at 11:07 +0200, thah...@t-online.de wrote: > I had debug on the command line before, just didn't know of debug=vc > However the output on the screen is the same with either one. > > Last line is clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc I notice two 1 second delays during boot o

Re: Gradle version in bookworm

On Sat, 5 Aug 2023 at 17:51, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 05:21:55PM +0100, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Gradle is not some minority, hardly-used tool, so there is presumably > > a reason why the package hasn't been updated in Debian. Anyone know > > what it is? > > > Becuase

AW: Debugging initramfs, server hangs during boot process

Tried with clocksourche=hpet Now the Switched to clocksouce tsc is missing and the last line is clocksource: tsc: mask . like before the 2nd last line (as to be expected) It still hangs. It is not hard locked, can do CTRL-ALT-DEL to boot again, booting Windows works. -Original-Nachricht

Re: git setup

On 25/08/2023 19:36, Russell L. Harris wrote: But for me, the only purpose of the backup repository is to ensure against data loss due to a catastrophic event such as drive failure on my production host. If pushing from PRODUCTION is more reliable or less trouble-prone than pulling from BACKUP,

Re: LaTex Unicode entry issues

Charles Kroeger wrote: > I just have a really large list of UTF-8 characters and if I need one > I copy it and zap it in. I suppose this is not cool but, chacun a son > gout. > > a fun site if you want to write someone in UTF-8 runes. > > https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-demo.t

Re: AW: Debugging initramfs, server hangs during boot process

On 2023-08-26, thah...@t-online.de wrote: > Tried with clocksourche=hpet > Now the Switched to clocksouce tsc is missing and the last line is > clocksource: tsc: mask . > like before the 2nd last line (as to be expected) On my kernel I always have those 3 lines during boot : clocksource: tsc

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

Nate Bargmann writes: > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing is not open to just everyone > but may only be done through an account (apparently I have one and now > have to figure out how to reset my password). Good for you. I tried creating an account but after putting in name password and

Re: LaTex Unicode entry issues

On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 09:53:23PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/08/2023 03:24, Haines Brown wrote: > > Now it returns the error: "not set up for use with LaTeX." What does > > this error imply? > > > > This code works to produce an astrisk: > > > > \char"002A > > A complete minimal exam

Re: git setup

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 08:10:20AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: [...] > The reliability should be the same, but you cannot push to a non-bare > repository. At least not in the standard configuration, but git being git > I'm sure there's a way to override that. Actually, if the push doesn't

Re: LaTex Unicode entry issues

On 26/08/2023 09:08, Haines Brown wrote: The question is: if my system has access to a character in that it can be pasted, why cannot LaTeX do so as well. Because TeX dates from before Unicode was even being discussed, and does not use the libraries for handling Unicode that the other software

Re: git setup

On Fri, 2023-08-25 at 22:36 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > If pushing from PRODUCTION is more reliable or less trouble-prone than > pulling from BACKUP, kindly explain to me, and I shall change. Another consideration is that to pull from PRODUCTION requires it to be running a service (e.g. ssh)

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

* On 2023 26 Aug 07:13 -0500, Anssi Saari wrote: > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing is not open to just everyone > > but may only be done through an account (apparently I have one and now > > have to figure out how to reset my password). > > Good for you. I t

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 07:40:46AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2023 26 Aug 07:13 -0500, Anssi Saari wrote: > > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > > > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing is not open to just everyone > > > but may only be done through an account (apparently I have one and now

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

On 8/25/23 13:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 01:17:25PM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote: I'm a Mate user, and I never thought to read https://wiki.debian.org/MATE until now. I see no flaws but there are several things that should be updated since it's last edit on December 24,2019 Wh

Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

In a previous thread it was shown how to detect a SUDO_USER in a bash shell. Is there a way to distinguish whether 'sudo -i' was used or not? Thanks. -Tom

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:15 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Popularity Contest (https://popcon.debian.org/) would be good to > > consult. But it looks like something is sideways. It does not provide > > usage statistics for packages like kde-full and gnome. I'm getting the > >

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 09:25:10AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: >In a previous thread it was shown how to detect a SUDO_USER in a bash >shell. >Is there a way to distinguish whether 'sudo -i' was used or not? >Thanks. >-Tom The SUDO_COMMAND environment variable would report /bin/b

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:29:02AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:15 AM Dan Ritter wrote: [...] > > The basic problem with popcon is that it is opt-in, and nobody > > who is at all privacy conscious opts-in. > > > > (I fully support this decision. It is absolutely corr

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

Am 26.08.2023 um 16:25 schrieb Tom Browder: > Is there a way to distinguish whether 'sudo -i' was used or not? > Sorry, i am not an expert on this. But ... since years i am using this to check for it: > # if `echo $HOME` is not "/root" or the working dir (pwd) is not "/root", > then this was not

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 09:25:10AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > In a previous thread it was shown how to detect a SUDO_USER in a bash shell. > > Is there a way to distinguish whether 'sudo -i' was used or not? I have not tested this but if bash was interactive you will find a .bash_history file in

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 04:45:54PM +0200, DdB wrote: > Am 26.08.2023 um 16:25 schrieb Tom Browder: > > Is there a way to distinguish whether 'sudo -i' was used or not? > > > Sorry, i am not an expert on this. But ... since years i am using this > to check for it: > > > # if `echo $HOME` is not "/

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 09:32 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 09:25:10AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > >In a previous thread it was shown how to detect a SUDO_USER in a bash > >shell. > >Is there a way to distinguish whether 'sudo -i' was used or not? I would like

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:49:45AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I would like to know whether 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s' was used. That's STILL an X-Y problem. > The reason is > to know if the cwd is set to '/root' or '.' It's critical for the script > execution Oh? Then just look at the current work

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:57 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:49:45AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > I would like to know whether 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s' was used. ... > In fact, I suspect "I need to know if the cwd is /root" is STILL an X-Y > problem. It's sounding like "I nee

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On 26 Aug 2023 11:56 -0400, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): > You don't actually need to know what was typed. And even being able to answer the question "how was sudo executed" doesn't solve the problem of ensuring that the script is executing within a particular directory. All it takes is

Virtualization under Bookworm

Hi, I have a project that I'd like to work on in a virtual machine hosted on my Bookworm system. In the old days (5-10 years ago) I used VirtualBox, just from inertia. I haven't really virtualized since then. What's the current recommendation for someone who just wants to create a one-off VM

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 11:56:27AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:49:45AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > I would like to know whether 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s' was used. > > That's STILL an X-Y problem. > > > The reason is > > to know if the cwd is set to '/root' or '.' It's

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

* On 2023 26 Aug 11:10 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:57 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:49:45AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > > > I would like to know whether 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s' was used. > > ... > > > In fact, I suspect "I need to know if the cw

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

* On 2023 26 Aug 07:57 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 07:40:46AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2023 26 Aug 07:13 -0500, Anssi Saari wrote: > > > Nate Bargmann writes: > > > > > > > This Wiki is semi-private in that editing is not open to just everyone > > > > but may

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

Carl: I use VirtualBox on Debian 12, and I run virtual Windows 11 and Linux machines with no issue. I also tried GNOME boxes and had no direct problems, but I went back to using VirtualBox because it was compatible with my cloud storage setup - I can save a VirtualBox virtual machine file in th

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

On 8/26/23 18:29, Carl Fink wrote: What's the current recommendation for someone who just wants to create a one-off VM to run Debian under Debian? As this is not my job or even main hobby, ideally it should have setup at least as easy as VirtualBox was back in the day. I use Virsh and virt-man

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

For sure you can't miss qemu + kvm,they are the most powerful tools for virtualization. With qemu and kvm you can pass through to the guest OS even your gpu. With virtualbox or vmware you can't. On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 8:40 PM James Bloom wrote: > Carl: > > I use VirtualBox on Debian 12, and I r

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:42 wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 04:45:54PM +0200, DdB wrote: > > Am 26.08.2023 um 16:25 schrieb Tom Browder: > > > Is there a way to distinguish whether 'sudo -i' was used or not? > > > > > Sorry, i am not an expert on this. But ... since years i am using this > > t

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 01:54:41PM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 10:42 wrote: [...] > > Basically it is not possible to find out [...] > As I think I replied earier, I am now checking the script is in the > required directory in order to be executed (by the root user) [...

Safing.io

I was watching a Linux distro video on YouTube this morning, and one of the sponsors was Safin.io which hosts a multi-capability firewall and network management device available for download. It looks interesting to me, a firewall-challenged sys admin hobbyist. Has anyone tried it? It sounds great

Re: Please verify Gnome and KDE wiki articles for correctness

On 8/26/23 06:17, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 8/25/23 13:22, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Aug 25, 2023 at 01:17:25PM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote: I'm a Mate user, and I never thought to read https://wiki.debian.org/MATE until now. I see no flaws but there are several things that should be updated sin

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

Hey Carl, I am currently using Virtual Box installed through their official website instructions. The screen's top left quadrant has some flashing problems in a Fedora 38 guest, but otherwise works fine. If anyone here knows why that is happening, please let me know. It is a NUC using an the Intel

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

Well, last time I looked (at least six or seven years ago) it was a weird maze of fiddling to get QEMU/KVM set up. Is it easier now? On 8/26/23 14:53, Mario Marietto wrote: For sure you can't miss qemu + kvm,they are the most powerful tools for virtualization. With qemu and kvm you can pass thr

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 03:43:54PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > Well, last time I looked (at least six or seven years ago) it was a weird > maze of fiddling to get QEMU/KVM set up. Is it easier now? > > On 8/26/23 14:53, Mario Marietto wrote: > > For sure you can't miss qemu + kvm,they are the most p

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

If you want a powerful tool,you should spend some of your time on it. If you want to use something easier,you will lose some features,at least. On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 9:43 PM Carl Fink wrote: > Well, last time I looked (at least six or seven years ago) it was a weird > maze of fiddling to get Q

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

On 8/26/23 16:01, Mario Marietto wrote: If you want a powerful tool,you should spend some of your time on it. If you want to use something easier,you will lose some features,at least. Yep. That's why I specified that I was more interested in easy setup in the threadstarter -Carl

Re: Safing.io

* On 2023 26 Aug 14:27 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > I was watching a Linux distro video on YouTube this morning, and one of the > sponsors was Safin.io which hosts a multi-capability firewall and network > management device available for download. It looks interesting to me, a > firewall-challenged

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 12:09:57PM -0400, Tom Browder wrote: > Excellent mind-reading, Greg! So to use your line I will put in that dir: > "cd /required-dir || exit" > > Thanks so much. And thanks to all others who responded. If you're running bash, the safest way to find your current workin

Re: Using the bash shell: determine if the root user used 'sudo -i'

On Sat, Aug 26, 2023 at 06:42:42PM -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > If you're running bash, the safest way to find your current working > directory is capturing the output from /bin/pwd. Symlinked directories > can surprise you: > > me$ cd > > me$ ls -ldF today > lrwxr-xr-x 1 me mis 18

Re: Virtualization under Bookworm

So,surely go with virtualbox or vmware workstation. On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 1:20 AM Carl Fink wrote: > > On 8/26/23 16:01, Mario Marietto wrote: > > If you want a powerful tool,you should spend some of your time on it. > > If you want to use something easier,you will lose some features,at least.

Re: LaTex Unicode entry issues

On 26/08/2023 19:08, Haines Brown wrote: \documentclass[12pt]{article} % \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} % \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} % \usepackage[greek,english]{babel} % to make Greek charactes available It seems, you are overestimating effect. You still need to provide fontenc containing Greek ch

Re: LaTex Unicode entry issues

On Sun, 2023-08-27 at 10:16 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/08/2023 19:08, Haines Brown wrote: > > \documentclass[12pt]{article} % > > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} % > > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} % > > \usepackage[greek,english]{babel} % to make Greek charactes > > available > > It seems, you are