Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

2023-05-20 Thread Sqaaakoi
On Saturday, 20 May 2023 17:04:42 NZST Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My dear illustrious leaders and senior list members of debian-user ML, > > I hope I will have a clear reply on the matter by the end of the > inputs received for this query. > > For example, in Debian https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE has a

Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

2023-05-20 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 12:05:38PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > From: Byung-Hee HWANG > Date: Sat, 20 May 2023 15:00:00 +0900 > Message-id: <[🔎] 87r0rbzgnz.fsf@penguin> > [ ... ] > Go with Gnome Desktop. Gnome is easy and friendly. > > Also i am using Gnome Desktop under Debian 11 Bullseye.

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-20 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 5/17/23, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 1:06 PM Dan Ritter wrote: >> Albretch Mueller wrote: >> Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might >> want to run an NTP daemon to get the time from a selection of >> other servers. > Nowadays, time is something that

i386: Geode LX and NOPL

2023-05-20 Thread James Addison
Hi folks, I don't think that I should file this as a Debian bugreport, because it's not a problem that I've experienced with Debian. And I don't think that it's appropriate to write to Debian developers directly about it yet, because I haven't been able to test the results of what I'm curious abo

Re: how to create bootable usb stick from iso file

2023-05-20 Thread riveravaldez
On 5/19/23, hlyg wrote: > > On 5/19/23 19:03, Joe wrote: >> >> I don't think so. I've just downloaded it here >> >> https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/tag/v1.0.91 >> >> without being asked for any information. The author *asks* for >> contributions, like many do, but there's no compulsion.

Re: No space left on device ...

2023-05-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 08:12:39AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 5/17/23, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 1:06 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> Assuming you have network access close to boot time, you might > >> want to run an NTP daemon to get the ti

AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-20 Thread Schwibinger Michael
AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible Good afternoon Thank You for email. I think in Linux I shall post here a file where the other users of the group can see the mistake I did. Which file shall I read out and mail here to the group? Regards Sophie The computer is using

Re: AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible

2023-05-20 Thread gene heskett
On 5/20/23 07:32, Schwibinger Michael wrote: AW: PANIC Debian 11 LXDE After update no booting is possible Good afternoon Thank You for email. I think in Linux I shall post here a file where the other users of the group can see the mistake I did. Which file shall I read out and mail here to the

Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

2023-05-20 Thread songbird
Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: ... > Go with Gnome Desktop. Gnome is easy and friendly. > > Also i am using Gnome Desktop under Debian 11 Bullseye. :) i'm running testing with bits of unstable and just tagging along on this thread because i feel a bit chatty this morning so a bit of story time and pref

Re: CUPS on Bullseye and Bookworm

2023-05-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 20 May 2023 08:24:39 +0200 john doe wrote: > > > > .home.arpa ? I had never heard of it until you mentioned it. You are > > suggesting that I change every reference to localdomain to > > .home.arpa? Implementing that change is going to be a major pain in > > the arse. > > My idea was t

Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

2023-05-20 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Dear songbird, songbird writes: > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote: > ... >> Go with Gnome Desktop. Gnome is easy and friendly. >> >> Also i am using Gnome Desktop under Debian 11 Bullseye. > > :) i'm running testing with bits of unstable and > just tagging along on this thread because i feel a > bit ch

Re: i386: Geode LX and NOPL

2023-05-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 20 May 2023 09:07:57 +0100 James Addison wrote: > Hi folks, > > I don't think that I should file this as a Debian bugreport, because > it's not a problem that I've experienced with Debian. > > And I don't think that it's appropriate to write to Debian developers > directly about it yet,

Re: i386: Geode LX and NOPL

2023-05-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Recently, Intel has begun proposing some security improvements for > i686 that make use of the NOPL instruction -- and that, I think, could > cause support for the Geode LX to fall away from many Linux operating > systems because there's a fair and very reasonable argument that > adding security

Re: i386: Geode LX and NOPL

2023-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 10:36:21AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > I was still able to use Debian on a (headless, armhf) 512MB machine > without too much suffering two years ago, but I suspect that less than > that might be impractical. Depends on what you plan to use it for. That amount of RAM wo

Re: i386: Geode LX and NOPL

2023-05-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
Greg Wooledge [2023-05-20 11:23:27] wrote: > On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 10:36:21AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I was still able to use Debian on a (headless, armhf) 512MB machine >> without too much suffering two years ago, but I suspect that less than >> that might be impractical. > Depends on wh

nvidia package 340xx

2023-05-20 Thread Hans
Dear debian team, I just discovered the "nividia-legacy-340xx"-packages in debian sid. However, as they were in buster, but NOT in bullseye, NOR in bookworm, I wonder, if there is a chance, they will transfer from testing to bookworm some day. I tested them on bookworm, and they built (what

Installation on NBD in the newly released

2023-05-20 Thread Tomasz Wolak
Hello everyone, Does anyone know if the new release of Debian will contain/allow installation on an NBD (network block device)? Some time ago, I was installing Debian 11 (bullseye) for some diskless machine. And, while finally I succeeded, I had a few unnecessary obstacles which made that pr

Re: Installation on NBD in the newly released

2023-05-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I will not go to further details here, anyone interested can go to: > https://t-w.github.io/debian/2022/03/09/diskless_debian_11_pxe_nbd/ > for details. Have you reported a bug about this? You might also get in touch with the maintainer of `nbd-client-udeb` since that package seems designed for

Re: nvidia package 340xx

2023-05-20 Thread Richmond
Hans writes: > Dear debian team, > > I just discovered the "nividia-legacy-340xx"-packages in debian sid. > > However, as they were in buster, but NOT in bullseye, NOR in bookworm, > I wonder, if there is a chance, they will transfer from testing to > bookworm some day. > > I tested them on bookw

Re: nvidia package 340xx

2023-05-20 Thread Marlin S. Petre
On 5/20/23 1:15 PM, Richmond wrote: As far as I remember the problem in Nvidia does not support kernels above 4. This is why my laptop is stuck on Debian 10, although I did wonder if Debian 11 can run with kernel 4. (Nouveaux is no good to me). I am using the "nvidia-tesla-450-driver" on Debia

Re: nvidia package 340xx

2023-05-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 06:15:18PM +0100, Richmond wrote: > As far as I remember the problem in Nvidia does not support kernels > above 4. This is why my laptop is stuck on Debian 10, although I did > wonder if Debian 11 can run with kernel 4. It should, so long as you don't care about the newer k

Re: Installation on NBD in the newly released

2023-05-20 Thread Tomasz Wolak
On 5/20/23 19:17, Stefan Monnier wrote: I will not go to further details here, anyone interested can go to: https://t-w.github.io/debian/2022/03/09/diskless_debian_11_pxe_nbd/ for details. Have you reported a bug about this? You might also get in touch with the maintainer of `nbd-client-udeb

Re: Installation on NBD in the newly released

2023-05-20 Thread Tomasz Wolak
On 5/20/23 19:49, Tomasz Wolak wrote: On 5/20/23 19:17, Stefan Monnier wrote: I will not go to further details here, anyone interested can go to: https://t-w.github.io/debian/2022/03/09/diskless_debian_11_pxe_nbd/ for details. Have you reported a bug about this? You might also get in touch

Re: nvidia package 340xx

2023-05-20 Thread Marlin S. Petre
On 5/20/23 1:15 PM, Richmond wrote: As far as I remember the problem in Nvidia does not support kernels above 4. This is why my laptop is stuck on Debian 10, although I did wonder if Debian 11 can run with kernel 4. (Nouveaux is no good to me). I am using the "nvidia-tesla-450-driver" on Debia

Re: nvidia package 340xx

2023-05-20 Thread Richmond
"Marlin S. Petre" writes: > On 5/20/23 1:15 PM, Richmond wrote: >> As far as I remember the problem in Nvidia does not support kernels >> above 4. This is why my laptop is stuck on Debian 10, although I did >> wonder if Debian 11 can run with kernel 4. >> >> (Nouveaux is no good to me). >> > I am

Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

2023-05-20 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 10:34:42AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote: > My dear illustrious leaders and senior list members of debian-user ML, > > I hope I will have a clear reply on the matter by the end of the > inputs received for this query. > > For example, in Debian https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE ha

Re: Installation on NBD in the newly released

2023-05-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 20 May 2023 18:45:13 +0200 Tomasz Wolak wrote: > Debian installer, despite the fact that it contains nbd kernel > modules, was lacking the nbd-client, an application that would allow > to actually set the remote-attached device up and available for > installation. And the nbd-client had t

Weird behaviour on System under high load

2023-05-20 Thread Christian
Hi there, I am having trouble with a new build system. It works normal and stable until I put extreme stress on it, e.g. using all 12 cores with stress tool. System will suddenly loose network connection and become unresponsive. Only a reset works. I am not sure what is going on, but it is reprod

Re: how to create bootable usb stick from iso file

2023-05-20 Thread hlyg
Thank riveravaldez for download link! i've downloaded it. but Assets section seems inaccessible many sites are blocked here ...

Re: Installation on NBD in the newly released

2023-05-20 Thread Alex King
A wishlist bug report against the debian installer pseudo package would seem to be an appropriate way to go. I would also like to see nbd support in the installer.  I'm guessing it will be too late for bookworm, I tried that using the nightly installer and had a similar problem - nbd kernel mo

Re: Installation on NBD in the newly released

2023-05-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Well, it is not a problem with nbd-client-udeb, it is a problem with the > lack of it in Debian installer. According to my reading of `nbd-client-udeb`, the whole purpose of that package is to use it with Debian's installer. So even if it's not supported in the default Debian installer, there's

Re: Weird behaviour on System under high load

2023-05-20 Thread David Christensen
On 5/20/23 14:46, Christian wrote: Hi there, I am having trouble with a new build system. It works normal and stable until I put extreme stress on it, e.g. using all 12 cores with stress tool. System will suddenly loose network connection and become unresponsive. Only a reset works. I am not su

Re: Learning resources and material-wise, which distro has an easier learning curve - Debian or Arch?

2023-05-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/05/2023 13:35, Susmita/Rajib wrote: My query was different: whether I would shift out of Debian to Arch? It highly depends on your activities. They are quite different. It is not the case when similar questions causing flames and holy wars when general recommendation is to install the s