Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread mick.crane
On 2022-11-25 05:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 09:03:00PM +, mick.crane wrote: I love open source, more than you might think, but I have a niggling feeling it's been infiltrated to make user control difficult. That is no different from everything else in society. The

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread Nicolas George
to...@tuxteam.de (12022-11-25): > Life is messy, alas. It's still better with Free Software So many people are unable to make that obvious reasoning. “SUVs are bad? But you know, producing your bike polluted too, you're just as bad as me!” >

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David wrote: > I'm a spook, and proud of it! A true rosicrucian like me would never admit to be one. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 06:01:30AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Life is messy, alas. It's still better with Free Software (I much prefer > /that/ spelling than the always coy "open source", so there you go; > I think the latter was invented by spooks!). Even worse than that! ESR was in

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 09:21:51AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 06:01:30AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Life is messy, alas. It's still better with Free Software (I much prefer > > /that/ spelling than the always coy "open source", so there you go; > > I thin

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Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread Mario Marietto
Why not ? Think about this : you can put the malicious code where there is the lowest chance for someone to look. A lot of eyes are pointed at the closed source,because there are less eyes that can look inside there (at least less eyes than the eyes which look on the source code) and for this reaso

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Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread Curt
On 2022-11-25, Andy Smith wrote: > > Frankly, this whole "the software is designed to take away my control > and must be made that way by the concerted effort of dark forces!" thing > sounds lke a thinly-veiled reference to one of Gene's favourite rants. Sounds kind of like *The Matrix* to me, wh

Re: Re: Trouble with ansible and apt. Is this a known problem?

2022-11-25 Thread Nathanael Schweers
> We need to know the versions of the (relevant) packages on your system. Sorry, I have the ones currently in bullseye. I’m afraid I am not at said machine at the moment and won’t be for the weekend. I’ll post more next week. > BTW you started this thread with "I recently installed Debian Bull

Re: Re: Trouble with ansible and apt. Is this a known problem?

2022-11-25 Thread Nathanael Schweers
> We also need to know what happened between the "I recently installed Debian" > statement and your "suddenly 2 days ago Ansible..." statement. I’m not quite sure I follow. I put that in my message to indicate that it was running fine on sid. It still is, in fact, on another machine. Between i

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:48:42AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 09:21:51AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Nevertheless, not all of the licenses we might discuss in the context of > > this thread are considered Free by the FSF, so there is a need for other > > termi

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I personally would expect every serious compiler in the world to have > been corrupted by one government or another. FWIW, there are ways to circumvent/mitigate Ken's trusting-trust problem, e.g. https://dwheeler.com/trusting-trust/ who haven't found GCC to be victim of a trusting trust attack.

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 11:15:26AM +, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:05:31 -0500 > Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > > > I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze > > the code line by line. > > > You can analyse the *source* code. The machine code it allegedly > produce

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 12:38:01PM +0100, Mario Marietto wrote: > Why not ? Think about this : you can put the malicious code where there is > the lowest chance for someone to look. And then, you can tie your shoes the wrong way, topple and fall. Well, duh. All that rambling is pretty useless if

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 12:29:07PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I personally would expect every serious compiler in the world to have > > been corrupted by one government or another. > > FWIW, there are ways to circumvent/mitigate Ken's trusting-trust > problem, e.g. https://dwheeler.com/trust

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 04:35:25PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 10:48:42AM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 25, 2022 at 09:21:51AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > > Nevertheless, not all of the licenses we might discuss in the context of > > > this threa

Re: just saying

2022-11-25 Thread paulf
On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 20:11:15 -0500 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 06:17:23PM -0500, pa...@quillandmouse.com > wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 16:05:31 -0500 > > Jeremy Hendricks wrote: > > > > > I have no idea what you mean. It’s open source and you can analyze > > > the code lin