On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > [an abridged version of the release notes]
>
> > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to f
On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 22:01 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > [an abridged version of the release notes]
>
> > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to follow.
On 2021-08-18 08:40, Tixy wrote:
I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a
horse to water, but you can't make him drink'.
You can't blame a horse for wanting to see the chemical analysis of the
water and checking the vicinity for corpses.
mick
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On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > > [an abridged version of the release
On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:06 +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-08-18 08:40, Tixy wrote:
>
> > I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a
> > horse to water, but you can't make him drink'.
> You can't blame a horse for wanting to see the chemical analysis of the
> water
On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster?
> >
> > What, in this helpful thread, do you find difficu
On 18/08/2021 08:40, Tixy wrote:
I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a
horse to water, but you can't make him drink'.
Amazing analogy. Gene has been given plenty of water, but he keeps
coming back for more while not taking even one sip yet. He failed to
RTFM but
Op 18-08-2021 om 06:51 schreef Richard Forst:
When doing apt-get update, debian throws following error. It looks like because
the code name changed from bullseye to bookworm.
E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org testing-security InRelease' changed
its 'Codename' value from 'bullseye-secu
On 2021-08-18 09:32, Tixy wrote:
On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:06 +0100, mick crane wrote:
On 2021-08-18 08:40, Tixy wrote:
> I agree with all of the above, but as the saying goes: 'you can lead a
> horse to water, but you can't make him drink'.
You can't blame a horse for wanting to see the chemica
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a lot
of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it.
I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the
official Debian mailing list s
On 18/08/2021 07:57, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 01:53:16AM +0100, piorunz wrote:
Why are you repeating this?
Because Andrew is a nice person. Which I do appreciate highly.
Why shouldn't he? Why would you not want him to do?
Please see my other reply:
"> Amazing analogy
On 2021-08-17 at 15:11, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 10:07:18 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
>> On Tuesday 17 August 2021 09:08:43 Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:01:32AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> You literally have the word "oldstable" in your sources.li
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a
> > lot
> > of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it.
>
> I think the way forward this time would be to request
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 01:52:52PM +1000, Fred 1 wrote:
>
> vagrant@buster:/mnt/debian_build/apt-1.8.2.3$ ls -ld /var/lib/apt
> /var/lib/apt/lists /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Aug 17 04:22 /var/lib/apt
> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Aug 18 01:12 /var/lib/apt/lists
> drwx
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 12:38:53PM +0200, Frank wrote:
> The Suite for testing changed from bullseye to bookworm, so you get this
> message. Fix it by adding the --allow-releaseinfo-change switch to
> apt-get update.
Or by running "apt update" one time, to get the prompt that apt-get
doesn't give
On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:00:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>> Do the update to Buster - take it as slow as you need to. Bring it
>> bang up to date.
>>
>> For the Buster to Bullseye -
>>
>> READ RELEASE NOTES :)
>
> Of course! Do users not do this as
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:12:24AM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew
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On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:27:17 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
> I think the primary use case of debian-user-offtopic would be to
> have a place for people on debian-user to tell others to move
> their threads.
That sounds like a useful thing -- somebody could point out that a post is off-
topic and
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:39:26 AM The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote:
> > Of course! Do users not do this as a standard procedure? :)
>
> I don't - because I don't upgrade from one stable release to another; I
> track testing, continuously, throughout the development
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the
> official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere. But,
> such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead*
> of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone think that
> d-c
I've tried a couple of ways to get a USB stick to boot (bios not efi)
with persistence from debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-kde+nonfree.iso. Just
stuffing that to the stick produces a working stick, just no
persistence.
The sparse instructions at
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/LiveUsbPersistence re
On 8/17/21 21:55, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2021-08-17 19:59 +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
How can I make sure I don't have to change passwords on 400+ hosts?
Do not run sid on 400+ hosts. Do not run testing either, especially in
the first months after a release.
Of course not. But sid become
Hello.
After the new release a tsunami of new packages arrived to unstable. They
all installed ok but after the upgrade the graphical interface didn't show
up.
A quick look in .xsession-errors showed tempfile command was missing.
tempfile must be in debian-utils package but it isn't
https://pac
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 02:47:44PM +0200, Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:
> A quick look in .xsession-errors showed tempfile command was missing.
>
> tempfile must be in debian-utils package but it isn't
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/debianutils/filelist
>
> Is this a bug or a change in the
Thanks Greg
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=992385
It is xorg-common still using tempfile.
So... if you need X your choices are downgrade debian-utils or wait until a
new version of xorg-common is available.
Greetings
rhkra...@gmail.com writes:
> But, if I did do an upgrade from one version to the next, it would not
> surprise me if I forgot to read the upgrade notes.
For me, the instructions for upgrading in the release notes are the only
way I know how to find out how to upgrade Debian from one release to t
On 2021-08-18 at 08:57, Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:
> Thanks Greg
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=992385
>
> It is xorg-common still using tempfile.
>
> So... if you need X your choices are downgrade debian-utils or wait
> until a new version of xorg-common is available.
Fro
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 02:57:57PM +0200, Miguel A. Vallejo wrote:
> Thanks Greg
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=992385
>
> It is xorg-common still using tempfile.
>
> So... if you need X your choices are downgrade debian-utils or wait until a
> new version of xorg-common i
On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 21:37:13 -0400
Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> rock: ASRock DeskMini 300 with a 3400G, 32GB RAM, NVMe disk.
> Used as an XFCE4 desktop.
>
> No issues at all.
>
>
> shield: Asus AM1I-A with AMD 5150 quad0core, 4GB RAM, SATA SSD,
> lots of gigabit ethernet nics.
> Used as router, fire
Hi,
> The sparse instructions at
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/LiveUsbPersistence result in a stick
> that doesn't boot.
Maybe your question finds better experts at the debian-live mailing list.
Said that, some background info and a link to proposals at stackexchange:
The described proc
On Wed 18 Aug 2021, at 00:44, Gareth Evans wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I upgraded from Buster stable to Bullseye stable last night, with
> apparent success eventually, but it went less than smoothly and I would
> be grateful for any advice as to why that may have been.
>
> I followed the preparation a
On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 07:39:26 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote:
> > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:00:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
> >> Do the update to Buster - take it as slow as you need to. Bring it
> >> bang up to date.
> >>
> >> For the Buster to Bullsey
On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 14:27:13 +0200, deloptes wrote:
> Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>
> > I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the
> > official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere. But,
> > such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead*
> > of
On Wednesday 18 August 2021 08:05:43 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:12:24AM +0100, Tixy wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400
Hi,
I don't know if the question is related to the recent bullseye upgrade
which explains the OT in the subject or just a nextcloud configuration.
So I noticed that if Plasma is not running, the nextcloud client won't
be launched no matter if I connect via ssh or not. So if I remotely
reboot, I
Hi!
Im trying to install debian 11 on virtual machine manager in order to
prepare my self for moving my laptop to debian 11.
Default install leaves unconfined a lot of apps so I tried to install
extra profiles.
According to documentation it supposed to install extra profiles at
/usr/share/apparmor
"Thomas Schmitt" writes:
> For legacy BIOS booting there is the need for an MBR which knows what
> program of the boot loader to start. The Debian x86 ISOs have such an MBR
> which knows the block address of the isolinux.bin program. But it does not
> get copied to the USB stick by the 7z run sho
Le 18/08/2021 à 21:32, Georgios a écrit :
Hi!
Im trying to install debian 11 on virtual machine manager in order to
prepare my self for moving my laptop to debian 11.
Default install leaves unconfined a lot of apps so I tried to install
extra profiles.
According to documentation it supposed to i
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:26:18AM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 07:39:26 (-0400), The Wanderer wrote:
> > On 2021-08-17 at 13:36, Brian wrote:
> > > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:00:57 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> >
> > >> Do the update to Buster - take it as slow as you need
On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 21:36:30 +0200
Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Is there anything I can do about this without changing
> /etc/network/interfaces? As far as I understand, I cannot switch to
> systemd network configuration as long as the interfaces file exists.
Can you get anywhere by editing the templ
On 18/08/2021 16:14, Gareth Evans wrote:
Unpacking gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0:amd64 (1.18.4-3) ...
[1mdpkg:[0m error processing archive
/tmp/apt-dpkg-install-Un4rDW/28-gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0_1.18.4-3_amd64.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite
'/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/girepository-1.0/Gs
El mié, 18 ago 2021 a las 8:38, Anssi Saari () escribió:
>
>
> I've tried a couple of ways to get a USB stick to boot (bios not efi)
> with persistence from debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-kde+nonfree.iso. Just
> stuffing that to the stick produces a working stick, just no
> persistence.
>
> The sparse in
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 07:00:38PM +, Morgan Read wrote:
>>> Starting that from / is horrifying. I would have started from
>>> /home,
>>
>> But, all recklessness aside - what would be the correct command to
>> achieve the end sought?
>
> I'm not quite sure what that "end" is. W
Hi,
I upgraded my virtual server to bullseye already and I found one issue
in the logs:
Aug 18 10:59:20 h2907737 systemd-networkd-wait-online[936688]: Event loop
failed: Connection timed out
Aug 18 10:59:20 h2907737 apt-helper[936686]: E: Sub-process
/lib/systemd/systemd-networkd-wait-online re
Pierre Willaime:
>
> Using fstrim seems to restore speed. There are always many GiB which are
> reduced :
>
> # fstrim -v /
> / : 236,7 GiB (254122389504 octets) réduits
This is probably the total amount of unused space on that SSD. The first
fstrim run after a reboot always trims a
let's suppose you have a directory where there are
various scripts, libraries, programs, data, etc.
you want to know exactly which other scripts, libraries,
etc. use them and to log each caller to know the name so
it can be tracked down (location would be nice too, but
that could be found lat
On 8/18/21, songbird wrote:
> let's suppose you have a directory where there are
> various scripts, libraries, programs, data, etc.
>
> you want to know exactly which other scripts, libraries,
> etc. use them and to log each caller to know the name so
> it can be tracked down (location would b
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 08:55:12PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> let's suppose you have a directory where there are
> various scripts, libraries, programs, data, etc.
>
> you want to know exactly which other scripts, libraries,
> etc. use them and to log each caller to know the name so
> it can be
On 19/8/21 8:55 am, songbird wrote:
let's suppose you have a directory where there are
various scripts, libraries, programs, data, etc.
you want to know exactly which other scripts, libraries,
etc. use them and to log each caller to know the name so
it can be tracked down (location would
Hello List Members,
After a power outage metaSendsEscape won't work for my main user. It is
defined in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm and covers all users including root. I
added a new user and it works there.
I've tried adding "xterm*metaSendsEscape:true" to my .Xdefaults and loading it
with
On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 20:55:12 (-0400), songbird wrote:
> let's suppose you have a directory where there are
> various scripts, libraries, programs, data, etc.
>
> you want to know exactly which other scripts, libraries,
> etc. use them and to log each caller to know the name so
> it can be tr
I have a little shell script called fullstereo which works fine.
It's short so I'll show it to you. It records sound from a
Creative Labs usb sound card which is probably much happier on a
Windows box but that's not where I need it. It has only 1
sampling rate that works under debian and that is
On Wed 18 Aug 2021, at 23:33, piorunz wrote:
> On 18/08/2021 16:14, Gareth Evans wrote:
> > Unpacking gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0:amd64 (1.18.4-3) ...
> > [1mdpkg:[0m error processing archive
> > /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-Un4rDW/28-gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0_1.18.4-3_amd64.deb
> > (--unpack):
> > t
On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 12:16:29 (+1000), Nicholas Croft wrote:
>
> After a power outage metaSendsEscape won't work for my main user. It is
> defined in /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm and covers all users including root.
> I added a new user and it works there.
>
> I've tried adding "xterm*metaS
On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:19:48 (+0100), Brian wrote:
> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 10:43:29 -0400, Michael Grant wrote:
> > I included Experimental which probably was a mistake and I probably
> > meant Unstable. (I can see Greg rolling his eyes...)
> >
> > Here's a blog post I was looking at: https://
Issue: "No bootable devices found" after motherboard replaced
Background: previously functional Debian system where hardware quit
(so called "No POST").
I spent a few hours on a "No bootable devices found" issue:
The fix was in the Dell BIOS (got to by pressing 'F2'):
-> Boot Configuration
-->
On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 04:00:04 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote:
> On Wed 18 Aug 2021, at 23:33, piorunz wrote:
> > On 18/08/2021 16:14, Gareth Evans wrote:
> > > Unpacking gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0:amd64 (1.18.4-3) ...
> > > [1mdpkg:[0m error processing archive
> > > /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-Un4rDW/28-
On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 21:41:06 (-0500), Martin McCormick wrote:
> I have a little shell script called fullstereo which works fine.
> It's short so I'll show it to you. It records sound from a
> Creative Labs usb sound card which is probably much happier on a
> Windows box but that's not where I ne
Hi
On 2021-08-17 6:05 p.m., Brian wrote:
> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster?
>
> What, in this helpful thread, do you find difficult to understand?
>
> You have a collection of important machines in your charge
On 2021-08-17 7:04 p.m., Brian wrote:
> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a
>> lot
>> of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it.
>
> Nice? Really? There was one. It
On 2021-08-17 7:21 p.m., Brian wrote:
> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 22:48:34 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:05:44PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>>> On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 16:54:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>
Where do I find the recipe to update stretch to buster?
>>>
>>
On 2021-08-18 12:57 p.m., Brian wrote:
> On Wed 18 Aug 2021 at 14:27:13 +0200, deloptes wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>>
>>> I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the
>>> official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere. But,
>>> such a list will only serv
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z writes:
> I wanted to do something exactly like that some months ago.
> What I ended up doing is using a normal Debian installation
> with an overlay file system mounted over the root.
> It is too tricky to get the live images working with persistence.
Thanks, but I actually
Jochen Spieker writes:
> Stay away from the "discard" option and do not worry about SSD life.
What's the issue with the discard option? AFAIK, there may have been
issues with it in the decade before last but again AFAIK, today some
distros enable discard and some run fstrim on timer, both work.
Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
> You seem pretty good a drawing a line between *good* and *bad*, always
> putting yourself on the *good* side.
>
see this is exactly the attitude I am reffering to.
> What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing
> over old sub
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:34:24AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote:
What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing
over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by
giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or policing what
> I wanted to do something exactly like that some months ago.
> What I ended up doing is using a normal Debian installation
> with an overlay file system mounted over the root.
FWIW, you can do simpler and just use a normal Debian install on
a USB key. That saves the trouble of the overlay filesy
On Thu 19 Aug 2021, at 05:50, David Wright wrote:
> On Thu 19 Aug 2021 at 04:00:04 (+0100), Gareth Evans wrote:
> > On Wed 18 Aug 2021, at 23:33, piorunz wrote:
> > > On 18/08/2021 16:14, Gareth Evans wrote:
> > > > Unpacking gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0:amd64 (1.18.4-3) ...
> > > > [1mdpkg:[0m err
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