On Wednesday 18 August 2021 08:05:43 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 09:12:24AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > > On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:03 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 10:01:32PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 09:48:10PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 17 August 2021 18:48:34 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > > > [an abridged version of the release notes] > > > > > > > > > > Thank you Andy, thats more of the recipe I need to follow. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > > > See, *this* is exactly what I tried to avoid -- giving someone > > > > an inferior version of the release notes, empowering their > > > > laziness, > > > > > > [...] > > > > Greg *was* trying to help Gene (and us) by getting him to read > > documentation from the Debian project, rather than picking one of > > several different 'easy' suggestions from this list. > > > > If you read the release notes you get a clue what to expect and what > > to do. Or you can not bother and just rely on the helpful people on > > this list. > > > > I know from my upgrade to Buster I had to take action due to > > AppArmor and nftables now being default and ending up migrating from > > legacy network names to new 'predictable' network names. Looking at > > the release notes again, there's also changes to increase security > > with sshd and OpenSSL, and with Systemd needing entropy at boot > > (Gene has some ARM boards the latter may hit). > > > > Want to take bets that Gene won't be back in a few days with > > problems caused by some of the above changes? He could save himself, > > and you, time and hassle if he read the release notes. > > Yes, yes, and yes. Agreed that you should read the release notes. > > I tried to put more of it into one email with pointers to where the > info was derived from so that it was in one place rather than five > emails. A convenience factor - not detracting from anybody else's > suggestions. > > Like all of us, Gene has his own ways of doing things, his own > habits and his own ability to do things. That's a necessarily > "different approach from the way I'd do it / different from my > experience / abd I'm sure I could do it better myself" situation. > > That's OK - his systems, his problems to sort if stuff goes > wrong - and yes, we could get into a to and fro of a longer thread - > but if any one of the emails above sorts out how to do this with good > will and good humour - it's a net win for all concerned. > And I should also point out that the 147 IQ I tested at in the 6th grade nominally 75 years ago, is at 86, no longer daily achieved, even with a daily B1 in the pilltainer.
I guess he isn't ready for me, or I'd have missed roll call years ago, but most pulmonary embolisms, which I had at 79 yo courtesy of a "one a day" vitamin with way too much vitamin k in it, have a 2% survival rate, but the oxygen starvation did cost me some of those. And while doing this, I am also doing a pair of designs in openscad, one of a rotary drive for a cnc machine, Costing 1% of the commercial product, and ATM, measureing parts that have never been combined to make a mount for a sherpa direct drive 3d printers extruder driver, and a cheap haldis "volcano" hot end assembly with a side mounted BLTouch probe. All to fit on a CR10-S Pro V2 printer whose hot end was cooked out of service by the increase in temps that feeding it PETG filament needs. All that is way off-topic for this list, only related to show where I now am mentally/physically. How many 86 yo's do you know that can still claim doing that... But now it takes me a week to recover from what I once did all day. That tends to go with a rebuilt heart thats pumping 30% of what it did 70 year ago, now timed by a pacemaker. > The list archives are searchable: Google will find stuff on keywords > and the next person to look will find some element of step by step > instructions. And that has to be good for far more folks than this fading old fart represents. Thank you. And take care, ALL of you. > > -- > > Tixy > > All the best to all on the list, as ever, > > Andy Cater Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
