Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 08:29:46AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > 1. Going from thinking to knowing. Even assuming they're well-informed, > > it may be worth checking with other people running different systems > > about what's wrong, and what the new text should say. > > > >

Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Wed, 22 Apr, 2020 at 22:15:09 +0530, Jayant Tripathi wrote: >>[1]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460 >>Is there a way to download patched groovy version in debian buster >>through apt? >>As default groovy version in Buster stable is: G

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:07:55PM +0100, Brian wrote: I do not have a TODO list, but pushing all wiki issues onto debian-www probably wasn't the best of ideas. It seems to me that discourse would be a good place to put them. I think the mistake was trying to drive discussion about the wiki *aw

checksum fails on current openstack debian 9 image

2020-04-23 Thread Marc-Antoine Bourgeot
Hi everyone ! I just downloaded the latest openstack debian 9 image from a debian mirror using : https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/openstack/current-9/debian-9-openstack-amd64.qcow2 I also got the checksum and its signature : https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/openstack/current-9/SHA256SUMS htt

Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:08:27 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Apr, 2020 at 22:15:09 +0530, Jayant Tripathi wrote: > > >>[1]https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=929460 > >>Is there a way to download patched groovy version in debian buster > >>

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2020-04-23 Thread David
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 06:53, Default User wrote: > A recent thread got me to thinking. So I checked my primary (only > installed) ssd: > sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sda > I don't really know how to interpret this, Ok, if you dont know how to interpret this, then I'd suggest that the first

Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Sven Hartge
Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:08:27 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Backports must not be used to fix bugs in Stable. If groovy from >> Stable does not work with the openjdk-11 from Stable, then this is a >> bug in Stable and has to be fixed in Stable. > This is indeed a bug in s

Re: Groovy 2.4.16 + Java 11 is broken in debian buster stable

2020-04-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:53:14 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Apr, 2020 at 11:08:27 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > > >> Backports must not be used to fix bugs in Stable. If groovy from > >> Stable does not work with the openjdk-11 from Stable, then this is a > >> bu

Re: checksum fails on current openstack debian 9 image

2020-04-23 Thread Richard Hector
On 23/04/20 9:02 pm, Marc-Antoine Bourgeot wrote: > Hi everyone ! > > I just downloaded the latest openstack debian 9 image from a debian mirror > using : > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/openstack/current-9/debian-9-openstack-amd64.qcow2 > > I also got the checksum and its signature : > htt

Re: aptitude doesn't remove unused packages

2020-04-23 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-04-23 09:19:10 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > This is controlled by the apt configuration options > > APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant > APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant > > See apt.conf(5) for how to adjust these. The user may want to keep Recommends. -- Vincent Lefèvre

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-23 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2020-04-23 08:31:32 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > I was wondering whether apt-build could automate things even more > > than my current solution, but it seems that my current solution can > > do more, at least for the goal of just patching source packages and > > rebuild

Re: Re: checksum fails on current openstack debian 9 image

2020-04-23 Thread Marc-Antoine Bourgeot
Thanks richard ! Now I'm sure there is something wrong on my side ! :-)

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 22 apr 20, 17:44:00, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 21 Apr 2020 at 20:07:55 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > > At the same time, what is the point of discusssion? A user thinks a > > technical point on the wiki is wrong; they know it is wrong; they change > > it. Where's the problem? > > 1. Goin

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 02:56:36PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > This looks very much like "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" models. > > In my opinion a wiki is much better suited for the bazaar model [...] I think you are right, in principle. That said, I don't believe you'll get as outstanding a

Re: Persistent sshfs mount from inside a Buster virtual machine?

2020-04-23 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 23 Apr 01:24 -0500, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Maybe you need to 'enable-linger' with loginctl. Looking through the command history in that VM, I did try that. A couple of times. I made sure enable-linger is enabled for my user and the mount is still dumped after five minutes or so. -

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2020-04-23 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 23.04.2020 01:52, Default User wrote: > Hey, > > A recent thread got me to thinking. So I checked my primary (only > installed) ssd: > > === START OF INFORMATION SECTION === > Model Family: SandForce Driven SSDs > Device Model: KINGSTON SV300S37A120G This drive is based on MLC (2-bit) NA

Boot so slow it never completes, while Windows boots fine

2020-04-23 Thread Marcin Owsiany
TL;DR: My laptop starts ~20x slower than normal. Booting Debian hangs before the kernel starts. Windows 10 boots slow, but then works fine. Hardware problem? More details: I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 in April 2019. It came with Windows 10, I installed Debian buster on it (dual-boot with GRUB

Re: Boot so slow it never completes, while Windows boots fine

2020-04-23 Thread Kent West
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:15 AM Marcin Owsiany wrote: > TL;DR: My laptop starts ~20x slower than normal. Booting Debian hangs > before the kernel starts. Windows 10 boots slow, but then works fine. > Hardware problem? > > > This "feels" like a hardware issue. Try removing the drive and see if th

Trouble installing wine on system with foreign arch

2020-04-23 Thread Dale Harris
Hi, I have a system where I have tried to install wine32 and the newer wine5 version, It can't resolve dependencies, like so: # apt install --install-recommends wine-stable Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installe

Re: Boot so slow it never completes, while Windows boots fine

2020-04-23 Thread Alexis Grigoriou
On Thu, 2020-04-23 at 16:57 +0200, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > TL;DR: My laptop starts ~20x slower than normal. Booting Debian hangs > before the kernel starts. Windows 10 boots slow, but then works fine. > Hardware problem? > > My only theories now are: > - a hardware problem (but why does it go away

Re: Trouble installing wine on system with foreign arch

2020-04-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-23 at 13:11, Dale Harris wrote: > Hi, > > I have a system where I have tried to install wine32 and the newer > wine5 version, It can't resolve dependencies, like so: > > # apt install --install-recommends wine-stable > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 10:21:57 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:07:55PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > I do not have a TODO list, but pushing all wiki issues onto debian-www > > probably wasn't the best of ideas. It seems to me that discourse would > > be a good place to put th

Re: Trouble installing wine on system with foreign arch

2020-04-23 Thread Klaus Singvogel
Hi, you'll need the libfaudio0 package, which is only avail at opensuse.org https://wiki.winehq.org/Debian For details about hotwo, look at the second point with an "!" from this site. https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192 Add the opensuse.org repo as suggested and install all at o

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 22 Apr 2020 at 17:44:00 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 21 Apr 2020 at 20:07:55 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Tue 21 Apr 2020 at 11:18:14 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:35:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > I don't know what the writer of those

Re: Boot so slow it never completes, while Windows boots fine

2020-04-23 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 23.04.2020 19:57, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > TL;DR: My laptop starts ~20x slower than normal. Booting Debian hangs > before the kernel starts. Windows 10 boots slow, but then works fine. > Hardware problem? > > More details: > > I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 in April 2019. It came with Windows >

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread Brian
On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 14:24:06 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 02:56:36PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > This looks very much like "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" models. > > > > In my opinion a wiki is much better suited for the bazaar model [...] > > I think you ar

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 08:29:46 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > David Wright wrote: > > > 1. Going from thinking to knowing. Even assuming they're well-informed, > > it may be worth checking with other people running different systems > > about what's wrong, and what the new text should say. > > > > 2.

Re: cleanly getting rid of manually installed transitional packages due to rename

2020-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 02:53:06 (+0200), Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2020-04-22 16:07:28 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > For trivial renames, which yours looks like, as do those I've done, > > it would be pretty easy to script. I've never made the effort, > > because it's not something I do frequentl

Re: Trouble installing wine on system with foreign arch

2020-04-23 Thread Dale Harris
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:39 PM The Wanderer wrote: > (Is there a reason you replied off-list? This sort of thing is generally > better handled in public, so that others can chime in if they have > something to contribute.) > Sorry, user error. (It does seem *really* odd to be getting Debian pa

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [citation needed] > > Now irony aside: manipulation efforts are to be expected on high > visibility sites like Wikipedia. I think that, given the constraints, > it's doing a pretty good job nevertheless. > > If you pick anything up on the internet, don't swallow it righ

Re: Trouble installing wine on system with foreign arch

2020-04-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-23 at 15:18, Dale Harris wrote: > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:39 PM The Wanderer wrote: >> (It does seem *really* odd to be getting Debian packages from an >> OpenSUSE repository, but I have no specific reason to expect them to be >> a problem.) > > I don't disagree. FTR for the list'

Re: Trouble installing wine on system with foreign arch

2020-04-23 Thread Klaus Singvogel
You didn't respond to the Mailinglist... Did you do an "apt-get update" etc. (as explained later) after adding it? Yesterday, when I did it as written, everything worked fine at my side. Regards, Klaus. Dale Harris wrote: > Yeah, I did that. > > I have > > deb > https://download.opens

Re: Boot so slow it never completes, while Windows boots fine

2020-04-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-04-23 07:57, Marcin Owsiany wrote: TL;DR: My laptop starts ~20x slower than normal. Booting Debian hangs before the kernel starts. Windows 10 boots slow, but then works fine. Hardware problem? More details: I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 in April 2019. It came with Windows 10, I insta

Re: The simpliest way to automatically rebuild few Debian packages ?

2020-04-23 Thread deloptes
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > I was just asking, in case there would be some advantage. > For instance, it seems to install build dependencies automatically. I understand. It is bothering to install dependencies, I agree - but it is one time job. I do it when setting up the build environment - it take

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-23 Thread Marco Möller
On 23.04.20 21:24, deloptes wrote: (...) While there are good articles on the debian wiki, there are also bad once and if you are not familiar with linux and debian, you never know what you are dealing with. There are also many not well maintained or outdated (and don't ask for examples please).

Re: Anti-malware for my personal Debian workstation?

2020-04-23 Thread l0f4r0
Hi, 11 avr. 2020 à 19:48 de scdbac...@gmx.net: > l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > >> I don't really >> think Linux is intrinsically more secure than Windows nowadays (a >> vulnerability remains as such) but I really think Linux ecosystem is. >> > This might be a merciful misperception. To my theory, free

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2020-04-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-04-22 13:52, Default User wrote: Hey, A recent thread got me to thinking. So I checked my primary (only installed) ssd: sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sda which promised to run the tests, but returned to a command prompt, with no further messages. So after the promised test end time I

Re: Boot so slow it never completes, while Windows boots fine

2020-04-23 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-04-23 13:35, David Christensen wrote: On 2020-04-23 07:57, Marcin Owsiany wrote: TL;DR: My laptop starts ~20x slower than normal. Booting Debian hangs before the kernel starts. Windows 10 boots slow, but then works fine. Hardware problem? I find it very useful to have a USB 3.0 flash d

Re: Persistent sshfs mount from inside a Buster virtual machine?

2020-04-23 Thread emetib
hello nate. i had a problem with setting this up in the first place and now it's working great for me. i have 4 vm's, debian: stable, testing, centos and opensuse. i think that suse was the worst to get it going. here is mine from testing(bullseye/sid) [Unit] Description=sshfs_mount share #Re

Re: Persistent sshfs mount from inside a Buster virtual machine?

2020-04-23 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 23 Apr 18:27 -0500, emetib wrote: > hello nate. > > i had a problem with setting this up in the first place and now it's > working great for me. i have 4 vm's, debian: stable, testing, centos > and opensuse. i think that suse was the worst to get it going. Thanks so much, em. If I re

Re: Persistent sshfs mount from inside a Buster virtual machine?

2020-04-23 Thread emetib
nate, i did not log in as root. just used root to call $USER@hostname thought that i would make that clear. take care, good luck em

Re: Anti-malware for my personal Debian workstation?

2020-04-23 Thread David Wright
On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 23:58:41 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > "When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything > > at all." - Futurama > > > Could you explain that please? If you're like me when you go for your flu shot, you offer your arm and look the other way. A good nu

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2020-04-23 Thread Default User
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 18:09 David Christensen wrote: > On 2020-04-22 13:52, Default User wrote: > > Hey, > > > > A recent thread got me to thinking. So I checked my primary (only > > installed) ssd: > > > > sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sda > > > > which promised to run the tests, but returned t

Re: Persistent sshfs mount from inside a Buster virtual machine?

2020-04-23 Thread Nate Bargmann
I guess I can't make this work as a user. Here is the status: $ systemctl --user status home-nate-share.mount ● home-nate-share.mount - Mount vbox-shr with sshfs Loaded: loaded (/home/nate/.config/systemd/user/home-nate-share.mount; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: failed (Result:

KMLCSV Converter error default instalation

2020-04-23 Thread William Torrez Corea
How i can solve this problem? An error has occurred. See the log file /home/lulu/.eclipse/com.choonchernlim.kmlcsv.product_2.2.0_2119858939/configuration/1587689434842.log. *org.osgi.framework.BundleException: The bundle "org.eclipse.equinox.common_3.6.0.v20110523 [13]" could not be resolved. Re

Re: Anti-malware for my personal Debian workstation?

2020-04-23 Thread Kenneth Parker
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 8:42 PM David Wright wrote: > On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 23:58:41 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > > > "When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything > > > at all." - Futurama > > > > > Could you explain that please? > > If you're like me when you go for y

Re: Persistent sshfs mount from inside a Buster virtual machine?

2020-04-23 Thread emetib
nate, to your question. no. i have a couple of different logins to my vms for some reason that's why i have $USER in the bottom of my first reply, so bear with me. what i did was to mkdir $whatever on the host machine. and then on the vm's i made the same dir $whatever, on the vm i then put t

Re: Anti-malware for my personal Debian workstation?

2020-04-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, at 5:40 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 23 Apr 2020 at 23:58:41 (+0200), l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > > > > "When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything > > > at all." - Futurama > > > > > Could you explain that please? > > If you're like me when you g

Re: Anti-malware for my personal Debian workstation?

2020-04-23 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > To my theory, free virus producers > > are just much better programmers than those of MS-Windows malware. > > > > "When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything > > at all." - Futurama l0f...@tuta.io wrote: > Could you explain that please? Well, Bender beca