Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:09:28PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 21:07:42 -0400 > Doug McGarrett wrote: > > > This may be a little off-topic, but it seems to me that any email > > from a .nl address is spam. Am I wrong? (I just erase from the top!) > > Yes, you are wrong. Th

Re: Reporting bugs in Stable

2020-04-20 Thread Ihor Antonov
On Sunday, 19 April 2020 23:30:43 PDT Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 19 apr 20, 13:28:57, Ihor Antonov wrote: > > Reporting from Debian Sid, everything is quite stable. I do run ZFS on > > root > > and make snapshots prior to big upgrades as a pre-caution, but so far > > I did not have a reason to

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread elvis
On 19/4/20 8:35 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote: On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: [...] Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is *not* forwarding (should probably mention this in the wiki).U In over 25 ye

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-19, wrote: > >> My half-assed understanding of bouncing is this: When you get a >> message that wasn't really meant for you, and you know where it ought >> to go, then you should "bounce" it there [...] > > Correct. This was bounce's original purpose. It has the property > that it pass

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote: On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird? Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message".

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:15:32AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote: > >>>On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >>>Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird? > > Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message". Oh, wow. Thanks for

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message". Oh, wow. Thanks for the hint. Does anyone know what that command does? Someone provided a detailed explaination of bounce a few messages earlier in this thread. But brie

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread The Wanderer
(Extraneous quoted misattribution removed for clarity, after having reviewed the thread to determine who actually wrote what.) On 2020-04-20 at 05:15, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 05:55:07PM +1000, elvis wrote: > Any idea how to do this in Thunderbird? > > Thunderbird

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:57:34AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >>Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message". > > > >Oh, wow. Thanks for the hint. Does anyone know what that command > >does? > > Someone provided

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-20 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2020 19 Apr 02:59 -0500, aces and eights wrote: > The elite types that want to control the society outside of the national > governments are ridiculing talk of these as they want to vaccinate > everybody. Seems our old friend Bill Gates (remember him?) is behind much of this push for a requir

Re: Accessing security.debian.org through https

2020-04-20 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 09:13:43PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Technically, you can: https://deb.debian.org/debian-security > Not that using it will not be useful in any way as currently it just > serves an HTTP redirect to http://security.debian.org That doesn't seem to be true. As I said last week, my

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-20, elvis wrote: > > On 19/4/20 8:35 pm, Liam O'Toole wrote: >> On Sun, 19 Apr, 2020 at 19:11:55 +1000, elvis wrote: >>> On 19/4/20 5:03 pm, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> >> [...] >> Note: "bouncing" is also called "redirect" in some mail clients and is *not* forwarding (should

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > "back to the sender" makes me unsure now: does ":exec bounce-message" > let you choose the target, or is it just "back to sender"? > What did I tell you?

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread The Wanderer
On 2020-04-20 at 06:27, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:57:34AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >>> Oh, wow. Thanks for the hint. Does anyone know what that command >>> does? >> >> Someone provided a de

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-20 Thread Steve McIntyre
n...@n0nb.us wrote: > >Seems our old friend Bill Gates (remember him?) is behind much of this >push for a required vaccination and also, according to some sources, >wants everyone to be chipped, as in having a permanent RF ID microchip >embedded somewhere on the body. Will there be the ability to

Please, let this thread die [was: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19]

2020-04-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 06:54:57AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: [...] > Ironic... Whatever. Please, folks. Let this thread die already. Thanks -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Accessing security.debian.org through https

2020-04-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 08:11:29AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 09:13:43PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Technically, you can: https://deb.debian.org/debian-security > > Not that using it will not be useful in any way as currently it just > > serves an HTTP redirect t

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 12:27:55 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 09:57:34AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 11:43:40AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > >>Thunderbird provides the command ":exec bounce-message". > > > > > >Oh, wow. Thanks for th

Re: Netbeans/Java Tutorial - Hangs

2020-04-20 Thread Kent West
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 8:26 PM local10 wrote: > > > Tutorial = https://netbeans.org/kb/docs/java/quickstart.html > > > > It's like the process to create the new project hangs.> > > Ideas? Suggestions? (I'm pretty green/new with both IDEs and Java.) > > > You'll have more luck asking this questio

Re: For all specimens of Homo sapiens - about COVID19

2020-04-20 Thread Curt
On 2020-04-20, Steve McIntyre wrote: > n...@n0nb.us wrote: >> >>Seems our old friend Bill Gates (remember him?) is behind much of this >>push for a required vaccination and also, according to some sources, >>wants everyone to be chipped, as in having a permanent RF ID microchip >>embedded somewher

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-20 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:19:13 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: ... > about Debian on non-Debian platforms (like StackExchange), the other one > being the Arch's wiki (significantly better than Debian's). Everyone loves the Arch wiki - I've long wondered why it's so much better than ours. Do they jus

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote: Oh, this was explicitly about Thunderbird's ":exec bounce-message"? I missed that bit, sorry for that. Will re-read. If this is so, then : must be an active character in order to introduce the string "exec". I see no mention of : in

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread tomas
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 07:36:40PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >>Oh, this was explicitly about Thunderbird's ":exec bounce-message"? > >>I missed that bit, sorry for that. Will re-read. > > >If this is so, then : must be an acti

Droidcam: Android phone as Debian webcam

2020-04-20 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hi everybody, droidcam is a small utility which converts an Android phone into a webcam for linux (connected by USB or Wifi). Since there is a webcam shortage right now and many people have Android phones, I thought I post my notes here for everybody who needs a webcam on a Debian 10 system. It

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 19:36:40 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:53:47AM -0500, David Wright wrote: […] > > It's always seemed futile to me to bounce an entire message back to > > the sender: after all, they sent it, they know what was in it, and > > have probably retai

Re: Kind reminder: please don't reply to and/or quote spam, ever

2020-04-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 04:15:00PM -0500, David Wright wrote: In addition, if the original email contained a malicious gotcha, you expose the recipient of the bounced email to the same risk that you presumably have just avoided. I am no expert on the matter. However, my approach has been to te

Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-20 Thread Ralph Katz
Hi -- Please help me diagnose and fix this problem. My five month old Dell laptop with updated firmware and new up-to-date Buster completely hangs and requires a hard reboot after 7-40 days uptime. While reading something onscreen or away from the laptop, the system hangs completely: screen freez

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 13:13:50 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:19:13 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > ... > > > about Debian on non-Debian platforms (like StackExchange), the other one > > being the Arch's wiki (significantly better than Debian's). > > Everyone loves the Arch

Re: Buster System hangs, requires hard reboot

2020-04-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 April 2020 21:44:10 Ralph Katz wrote: > Hi -- Please help me diagnose and fix this problem. > > My five month old Dell laptop with updated firmware and new up-to-date > Buster completely hangs and requires a hard reboot after 7-40 days > uptime. While reading something onscreen or aw

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-20 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:33:37 -0500 David Wright wrote: > On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 13:13:50 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:19:13 +0300 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > about Debian on non-Debian platforms (like StackExchange), the other one > > > being the Arch'

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-20 Thread Ihor Antonov
I am not sure why we are discussing this is in a discourse thread, but what the heck. > > In my experience, the content of the Arch wiki is ofter far superior to > ours, not just the organization and structure. > > ... > > > So they have different philosophies. Perhaps Debian puts more effort >

Re: Netbeans/Java Tutorial - Hangs

2020-04-20 Thread local10
Apr 20, 2020, 16:01 by we...@acu.edu: > The fact that neither Eclipse nor NetBeans works "out of the box" on Debian > just adds to that sentiment. > Eclipse runs fine on Debian, I've been running Eclipse on Buster for quite some time without any issues worth mentioning. I suspect Netbeans wil

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-20 Thread David Wright
On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 23:05:54 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > On Mon, 20 Apr 2020 21:33:37 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > > On Mon 20 Apr 2020 at 13:13:50 (-0400), Celejar wrote: > > > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 10:19:13 +0300 > > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > about Debian on non-

Re: Netbeans/Java Tutorial - Hangs

2020-04-20 Thread local10
Apr 21, 2020, 04:32 by loca...@tutanota.com: > Netbeans 10 probably requires JDK 10 to run. > Actually, I just checked and  Netbeans 10 should run fine on JDK 11. As per your original message you have two JDKs installed: JDK 11 and JDK 15. Make sure you are using JDK 11 to run Netbeans, if you

Re: Debian is testing Discourse

2020-04-20 Thread deloptes
Ihor Antonov wrote: > As a former Arch user I second that opinion. The wiki is better > structured, has better contents and is easy to edit anyway. Archlinux wiki > is the primary, if not the only, source of the documentation, so all the > effort is concentrated there. > I can second that - for