Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 08.06.19 11:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 08 June 2019 10:20:09 am deloptes wrote: > > Did you try running this without systemd? I recall you mentioned > > somewhere you removed it > > > > regards > > No. And I doubt there would even be a running system left. I don't think > I wrote th

Re: kernel policy vs bug handling (how to followup #919227 ?)

2019-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 08 iun 19, 16:08:27, Andrea Borgia wrote: > Il 08/06/19 12:18, Andrei POPESCU ha scritto: > > > On Mi, 27 mar 19, 21:22:18, Andrea Borgia wrote: > > > 2) maybe I am not using the proper keywords but I can't seem to find > > > information on Debian kernel policy, specifically: when does a ne

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 05:18:20PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: Err, Gene, this foop has swelled to 1.2 million lines of code while your back was turned. Pervasiveness is its essence. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/19/05/25/0538206/systemd-now-has-more-than-12-million-lines-of-code Is tha

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread tomas
On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 09:04:01AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 05:18:20PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > >Err, Gene, this foop has swelled to 1.2 million lines of code while your > >back was turned. Pervasiveness is its essence. > > > >https://linux.slashdot.org/stor

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Curt
On 2019-06-09, wrote: > > What's much? What's little? > > This was just a typical useless anti-systemd slur: 12 million lines of 1.2 millions lines, actually, because the url dropped the decimal point, thus multiplying by a factor of ten the other point, which I agree is meaningless in and of an

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 09 June 2019 03:18:20 am Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 08.06.19 11:28, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 08 June 2019 10:20:09 am deloptes wrote: > > > Did you try running this without systemd? I recall you mentioned > > > somewhere you removed it > > > > > > regards > > > > No. And I

Re: Privacy policy of packages/softwares installed in Debian

2019-06-09 Thread Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Hi, Privacy policy makes sense for software you quote, eithr because they are closd-code, or because thy are in the cloud and users send data to servers, so it is important to know what do this data once sent. Debian provides free software and does not support non-free one even if they exist

Re: unattended-upgrades downloaded package information only from the sources in sources.list.d directory ignoring sources.list file

2019-06-09 Thread Martin T
Hi, looks like the culprit is a /etc/cron.daily/do-agent cron-job which executes the /opt/digitalocean/do-agent/scripts/update.sh script which includes following if statement: if command -v apt-get 2&>/dev/null; then apt-get -qq update -o Dir::Etc::sourcelist="sources.list

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 09.06.19 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > And what do we call that Erik, thats much bigger than a normal foop, a > megafoop maybe? Good grief, Charley Brown. And we're stuck with it. :( Well now, there are folks who have observed that not all progress is forward, and not all code bloat and per

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-06-09 Thread andreimpopescu
On Vi, 05 apr 19, 13:05:56, David Wright wrote: > > A solution might be to install over a serial link, but I don't > think you can do that with the d-i itself, only with 3rd-party > mangled versions. Sure it can, it's how most ARM boards are installed. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 10 Jun 2019 at 00:52:21 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > On 09.06.19 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > And what do we call that Erik, thats much bigger than a normal foop, a > > megafoop maybe? Good grief, Charley Brown. And we're stuck with it. :( > > Well now, there are folks who hav

Re: Can any setting be changed after an "install Buster from scratch"-procedure?

2019-06-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
Erik Josefsson: > > Can every setting made with an "install Buster from scratch"-procedure (like > the one for [Teres-I DIY laptop] available at box.redpill.dk) be changed > after the install procedure is completed? > > I mean, can some settings be "hard-coded" by an install procedure? > > Or in

Re: kernel policy vs bug handling (how to followup #919227 ?)

2019-06-09 Thread deloptes
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Debian is typically using LTS kernels for stable releases, so buster > will most likely release with 4.19. This is a good choice - running custom 4.19 I can say that I will not intend to upgrade it in near feature.

Re: UEFI beginner questions

2019-06-09 Thread duh
OOPS I apparently replied directly to tuulen. I am now trying to copy that reply to the list. Sorry for the confusion. === [OOOPS! I am replying to you directly and not to the list. At this point I will try to send a second copy to th

Re: How to set access permissions to protect a database file?

2019-06-09 Thread Markos
Many thanks to Mick, David and Joe, To guarantee "some" protection to the file containing the database I decided to use the following strategy: I created, as root, the directory /home/reading_room And activated the "sticky bit" of the reading_room directory with the command: chmod +t /home

Re: How to set access permissions to protect a database file?

2019-06-09 Thread mick crane
On 2019-06-09 22:32, Markos wrote: reading_room.db rw-r--rw- (owner markos) why give world write access to the database ? -- Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: How to set access permissions to protect a database file?

2019-06-09 Thread Dan Ritter
Joe wrote: > > This may be the time to learn about MySQL/mariadb. No, it's not a > resource hog like SQL Server, it will run happily on a small computer. > I used to run it with fairly decent speed on an Atom-based netbook, > and I had about twenty databases on a 256MB RAM desktop that I used to

Re: What is agetty, and why can't it be stopped?

2019-06-09 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 09.06.19 19:11, Brian wrote: > On Mon 10 Jun 2019 at 00:52:21 +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: > > > > > On 09.06.19 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And what do we call that Erik, thats much bigger than a normal foop, a > > > megafoop maybe? Good grief, Charley Brown. And we're stuck with i

Re: How to set access permissions to protect a database file?

2019-06-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 06:32:42PM -0300, Markos wrote: > Many thanks to Mick, David and Joe, > > To guarantee "some" protection to the file containing the database I decided > to use the following strategy: > > I created, as root, the directory /home/reading_room > > And activated