Re: Apt error

2019-04-04 Thread john doe
On 4/4/2019 4:16 AM, Joe B wrote: > Hello, > > I added a link to sources.list when I run apt update the link is dead and > doesn’t resolve. I removed link from sources.list and ran apt update and it > keeps looking for the dead link. How do I make this stop? Reboot didn’t > resolve > Are you sure

Re: Apt error

2019-04-04 Thread Pierre Fourès
You maybe duplicated it, or added it in the sources.list.d/ directory ? You could run the following command to list out all active references in your current configuration. grep -R "deb " /etc/apt/sources.list* Cheers, Pierre. Le jeu. 4 avr. 2019 à 10:50, john doe a écrit : > > On 4/4/2019 4:1

Re: Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?

2019-04-04 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2019 schrieb rhkra...@gmail.com: > I'd like to set noatime (instead of relatime) for all of the > partitions on my SSD, which basically includes all the executables > (except for a few I've written myself and keep in a separate top > level directory on my HDD). > > I've seen

'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread David
People accustomed to using synaptic might want to begin considering alternative tools, because synaptic has been removed from buster. More info: https://tracker.debian.org/news/1037065/synaptic-removed-from-testing/ https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/synaptic https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 04.04.2019 15:52, David wrote: > People accustomed to using synaptic might want to begin considering > alternative tools, because synaptic has been removed from buster. > > More info: > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1037065/synaptic-removed-from-testing/ > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/synapt

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 15:58:33 +0500 "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: Hello Alexander, >Considering the date, it must be an April Fool's joke. It's not. >If it is not, there is nothing preventing it's return to repositories >some time after. It happened with other useful and popular packages >befo

Re: Debian bridge with one VLAN iface - after upgrade from Deb 8 to 9 tc filters are bypassed for VLAN traffic?

2019-04-04 Thread kaskada
Hello, thank you. -- Původní e-mail -- Od: deloptes Komu: debian-user@lists.debian.org Datum: 4. 4. 2019 1:32:08 Předmět: Re: Debian bridge with one VLAN iface - after upgrade from Deb 8 to 9 tc filters are bypassed for VLAN traffic? "kask...@email.cz wrote: > This setup

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-04, David wrote: > People accustomed to using synaptic might want to begin considering > alternative tools, because synaptic has been removed from buster. > > More info: > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1037065/synaptic-removed-from-testing/ > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/synaptic >

Re: How did relatime get set on my Wheezy system?

2019-04-04 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, April 03, 2019 08:06:37 PM bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: <201904031938.34134.rhkra...@gmail.com> > >What I don't understand, for example, is where and how relatime got set > >(and maybe some of the other parameters). > > On stretch system, man mount has under "FILESYSTEM-INDEPENDENT MOUNT

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Francisco M Neto
On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 12:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > If it is not, there is nothing preventing it's return to repositories > > some time after. It happened with other useful and popular packages > > before. > > Indeed. Reading the bug report demonstrates that ppl are keen for it to > be re-ins

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 06:52:35 David wrote: > People accustomed to using synaptic might want to begin considering > alternative tools, because synaptic has been removed from buster. > > More info: > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1037065/synaptic-removed-from-testing/ > https://tracker.debian

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-04, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 12:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: >> If it is not, there is nothing preventing it's return to repositories >> > some time after. It happened with other useful and popular packages >> > before. >>=20 >> Indeed. Reading the bug report

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 07:33:13 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 15:58:33 +0500 > "Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > > Hello Alexander, > > >Considering the date, it must be an April Fool's joke. > > It's not. > > >If it is not, there is nothing preventing it's return to repositories > >

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Reco
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:20:51AM -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 12:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > If it is not, there is nothing preventing it's return to repositories > > > some time after. It happened with other useful and popular packages > > > before. > > > > Indeed

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 04 Apr 2019 09:20:51 -0300 Francisco M Neto wrote: Hello Francisco, > What is the problem between Synaptic and Gnome? I've been using To add to what Curt and Reco have said: Running Synaptic using a Wayland/Gnome combo,by clicking on an icon, it doesn't start. Not very helpful,

Re: How did relatime get set on my Wheezy system?

2019-04-04 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Rhkramer, 4.4.2019 01:38 +0200: > What puzzles me is this -- when I look at /etc/fstab for some of the other > partitions that are already ext4 I see entries like this: > > # /var was on /dev/sdb8 during installation > UUID=874304c9-36c6-4572-909b-c4c75d13269a /varext4defaults

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 09:02:13 Reco wrote: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:20:51AM -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 12:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > If it is not, there is nothing preventing it's return to > > > repositories > > > > > > > some time after. It happened

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread David
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 23:21, Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-04, David wrote: > > People accustomed to using synaptic might want to begin considering > > alternative tools, because synaptic has been removed from buster. > Owlett's gonna be pissed. On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 00:26, Richard Owlett wrote:

Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to make the stretch netinstall work. I think I have sussed the failure mode, which seems to be that by the time its finslly gets around to installing grub, its too far into the diksk for the dumb bios on this old Asus mobo to find it, so

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:39:19AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to make the stretch netinstall > work. > > I think I have sussed the failure mode, which seems to be that by the > time its finslly gets around to installing grub, its too far into the > di

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 10:55:23 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:39:19AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to make the stretch > > netinstall work. > > > > I think I have sussed the failure mode, which seems to be that by > > the time its

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:15:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 04 April 2019 09:02:13 Reco wrote: > > The *unofficial* one is the existence of "gnome-packagekit". The thing > > needs users, and this is one of the ways of getting them. > > I frankly don't care if it needs

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 11:09:13 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: >On Thursday 04 April 2019 10:55:23 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:39:19AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to make the stretch >> > netinstall work. >> > >> > I think I have sus

Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread rhkramer
(On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the usermod command. As root, I've tried most of the permutations of this: usermod -a -G sudo None of them have worked -- any suggestions? (I have checked using groups (as username), and even have opened fresh terminals. Hmm,

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-04 10:39 (UTC-0400): > So how _exactly_ do I make the installer take what it finds, format it, > and just get on with it? First select manual partitioning (all these are the same screen): https://www.howtoforge.com/images/debian_stretch_minimal_server/debian-9-se

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 12:54:52 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > (On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the usermod > command. vigr is your friend. -- Brian.

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Joe
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 16:02:13 +0300 Reco wrote: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:20:51AM -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 12:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > If it is not, there is nothing preventing it's return to > > > repositories > > > > some time after. It happened wi

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 12:54:52PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > (On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the usermod > command. > > As root, I've tried most of the permutations of this: > > usermod -a -G sudo > > None of them have worked -- any sugge

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Thomas Pircher
Brian wrote: > On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 12:54:52 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > (On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the > > usermod > > command. > > vigr is your friend. I don't think this will fix OP's problem. rhkramer, you don't need to reboot your machin

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 06:36:32PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 16:02:13 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:20:51AM -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 12:33 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > > If it is not, there is nothing preventi

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 06:42:19PM +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > Brian wrote: > > On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 12:54:52 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > (On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the > > > usermod > > > command. > > > > vigr is your friend. > > I don

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/4/19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > (On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the > usermod > command. > > As root, I've tried most of the permutations of this: > > usermod -a -G sudo > > None of them have worked -- any suggestions? > > (I have checked using groups (as

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
SORRY :) On 4/4/19, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/4/19, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >> (On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the >> usermod >> command. >> >> As root, I've tried most of the permutations of this: >> >> usermod -a -G sudo >> >> None of them have worked

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 18:42:19 +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > Brian wrote: > > On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 12:54:52 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > (On Wheezy) I've been trying to add myself to the sudo group with the > > > usermod > > > command. > > > > vigr is your friend. > > I don't

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Felix Miata
bw composed on 2019-04-04 11:24 (UTC-0400): > Try the guide much? > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition It lacks the screenshots that are key to understanding existing partition utilization. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science.

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Thomas Pircher
Brian wrote: > > Really? vigr cannot be used to add a user to a group? Nobody has stated that. Since the OP had the correct command in his email, I assumed that the operation worked, but hasn't been activated in the current session. Do I know that for sure? No, he hasn't said exactly what doesn

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 10:39:19 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all > > I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to make the stretch netinstall > work. My, my; as an experienced user, you really are having a hard time. > I think I have sussed the failure mode, which seems to be that by

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 19:38:01 +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > > Really? vigr cannot be used to add a user to a group? > > Nobody has stated that. > > Since the OP had the correct command in his email, I assumed that the > operation worked, but hasn't been activated in the cur

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread David Wright
On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 13:12:58 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-04 10:39 (UTC-0400): > > > So how _exactly_ do I make the installer take what it finds, format it, > > and just get on with it? > > First select manual partitioning (all these are the same screen): > ht

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread David Christensen
On 4/4/19 7:39 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to make the stretch netinstall work. I think I have sussed the failure mode, which seems to be that by the time its finslly gets around to installing grub, its too far into the diksk for the dumb bios

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 10:39:19 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all > > I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to make the stretch netinstall > work. I netinstalled Stretch some months ago on this 12 year old Asrock 770DE+ system with absolutely no problems. My guess is you're doing somet

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 11:24:24 bw wrote: > In-Reply-To: <201904041039.19463.ghesk...@shentel.net> > > >So how _exactly_ do I make the installer take what it finds, format > > it, and just get on with it? > > You can't. Part of manual partitioning step is selecting the > mountpoints and it has

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Thomas Pircher
Brian wrote: > Which bit is an assumption? Experienced? I hope you are not questioning > his competence. No, definitely not, I have been reading this list for some time and have absolutely no reason to doubt his experience or competence. I wish I had stated that better. What I meant was that he m

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 06:58:20PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:15:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > > If thats not plain enough to the people making these descisions, tuff > > luck. This stuff gets its users by working, and gnome has not > > recently demonstrated

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 12:29:33 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 11:09:13 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >On Thursday 04 April 2019 10:55:23 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 10:39:19AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > I am today, going to make my 6th attempt to m

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 13:12:58 Felix Miata wrote: > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-04 10:39 (UTC-0400): > > So how _exactly_ do I make the installer take what it finds, format > > it, and just get on with it? > > First select manual partitioning (all these are the same screen): > https://www

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 13:45:52 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 06:36:32PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 16:02:13 +0300 > > > > Reco wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 09:20:51AM -0300, Francisco M Neto wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 12:33 +0100, Brad Rog

Re: Getting amd64 stretch netinstall to work.

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 14:56:09 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 13:12:58 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > > Gene Heskett composed on 2019-04-04 10:39 (UTC-0400): > > > So how _exactly_ do I make the installer take what it finds, > > > format it, and just get on with it? > > > > First s

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 03:46:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > The solution seems simple enough, fix wayland. This is after all a > multiuser and multitasking OS, why go out of the way, way out of the way > to make it work like win-3.0? The notion of running a client as user X to talk to a dis

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 04 April 2019 15:57:17 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 03:46:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The solution seems simple enough, fix wayland. This is after all a > > multiuser and multitasking OS, why go out of the way, way out of the > > way to make it work like win-

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 04:15:32PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I didn't intend to say it was simple. Its also incorrect. Fix one or the > other, but I don't expect it to be "simple". You fix wayland once, or > you fix half the os's utilities. Wayland isn't in need of a "fix", as I understand i

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 04 Apr 2019 at 20:10:16 +0100, Thomas Pircher wrote: > Brian wrote: > > Which bit is an assumption? Experienced? I hope you are not questioning > > his competence. > > No, definitely not, I have been reading this list for some time and have > absolutely no reason to doubt his experience or

Re: Wheezy: adding myself to the sudo group using usermod

2019-04-04 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to all who replied, and thanks for the flattering comments ;-) The key for me was needing to do something like logging out and back in -- I haven't added myself to groups very often (if ever) (or manually created a user), and I just didn't think about something like that. I like to think

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread mick crane
On 2019-04-04 20:57, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 03:46:52PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: The solution seems simple enough, fix wayland. This is after all a multiuser and multitasking OS, why go out of the way, way out of the way to make it work like win-3.0? The notion of run

Re: 'synaptic' removed from buster

2019-04-04 Thread tomas
On Fri, Apr 05, 2019 at 07:37:05AM +0100, mick crane wrote: [...] > Making you be root to download stuff off the internet never seemed > like a good idea. And letting "you" (not root) install things in system directories (/usr/bin et al) seems to be as bad an idea. Remember that little javascrip