Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-02, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 08:55:52PM +0100, Brian wrote: >> 99% of users write netinstall images to a a USB stick. > > Is it really that high? I still use CDs. I feel like more than 1% of > us do, but maybe I'm mistaken. My original feeling was he has these c

Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > They [CD media] seem to be on their way out the door as a medium I ceased arguing against that claim 10 years ago. :)) About Gene's adventure so far, i don't see the media type in the first row of suspects. The drive is more likely to be the culprit. How old is it ? Then ther

Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Paul Sutton
On 03/04/2019 10:26, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Curt wrote: >> They [CD media] seem to be on their way out the door as a medium > > I ceased arguing against that claim 10 years ago. :)) CDs are still useful though, The cost of a spindle of CD-r vs the same number of usb flash disks is t

Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Joe
On Wed, 03 Apr 2019 11:26:40 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Curt wrote: > > They [CD media] seem to be on their way out the door as a medium > > I ceased arguing against that claim 10 years ago. :)) > > > About Gene's adventure so far, i don't see the media type in the > first row

Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Joe
On Wed, 3 Apr 2019 10:34:20 +0100 Paul Sutton wrote: > On 03/04/2019 10:26, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Curt wrote: > >> They [CD media] seem to be on their way out the door as a medium > > > > I ceased arguing against that claim 10 years ago. :)) > > CDs are still useful thoug

Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > >> They [CD media] seem to be on their way out the door as a medium I wrote: > > I ceased arguing against that claim 10 years ago. :)) Paul Sutton wrote: > CDs are still useful though, The cost of a spindle of CD-r vs the same > number of usb flash disks is that hte cd['s are

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Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 April 2019 05:26:40 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Curt wrote: > > They [CD media] seem to be on their way out the door as a medium > > I ceased arguing against that claim 10 years ago. :)) > > > About Gene's adventure so far, i don't see the media type in the first > row of suspe

Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread Richard Owlett
Rather than quote my original post, I'll restate the underlying problem. In the beginning, Joe Average would obtain Debian on a set of physical installation CDs. He boots from it. The installer does it's thing. Later, desiring additional software, he inserts the same CD and allows Synaptic to

Re: Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Apr 3, 2019, 8:26 AM Richard Owlett wrote: > > At this point, the same cognoscenti who bemoan Linux lacking market > penetration tell him to go read some techie manuals and perform arcane > incantations. As true ostriches they insist the problem is "operator > error". > This is a misperc

Re: Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > At this point, the same cognoscenti who bemoan Linux lacking market > penetration tell him to go read some techie manuals and perform arcane > incantations. As true ostriches they insist the problem is "operator > error". This is a good way to not get any help. -- John Ha

Re: bad printing results (was: Why choose Debian on server)

2019-04-03 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 1/4/19, Felix Miata wrote: > deloptes composed on 2019-01-04 22:32 (UTC+0100): > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> My copy of FF only prints 1 page, which is the top 3" of the site's >>> front page, never getting down to any of the text past the headline. > >>> And it works on other sites. > >> Sam

Re: Systemic Debian bug -- was [Re: BUSTER install - CATCH-22]

2019-04-03 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-03, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I was going to document here the work-a-round I successfully used > yesterday to install desired additional packages. There's a bug report concerning this from 2014. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=745381 In that thread our very own Br

Re: old never used memorex cd media

2019-04-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > perhaps put them in a file drawer and close it to put them in the dark? At least keep them covered in the spindle by the top paper disk and the sideward collar. I have most of my media in dark places. But some sit in their jewel cases on my desk or on a shelf. No direct

Re: Grrrrr, howinhell do I stop the 3 minutes of inactivity shutdown of a new stretch install?

2019-04-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 10:18:00PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: And the gparted for wheezy won't touch it. e2fsck is too old. So I'll start a new install in the morning. I have a vague recollection that we have been involved in a discussion like this before, but, this is one reason I find LVM2 ve

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xfce launchers

2019-04-03 Thread rlharris
I installed Debian 9 on three or four machines, some are i386 and others are amd64. I installed both Gnome and Xfce desktops on every machine, but I am using Xfce on all of the machines. On at least one machine, some of the Xfce launchers are inoperative, including the launcher for Synaptic a

Re: Grrrrr, howinhell do I stop the 3 minutes of inactivity shutdown of a new stretch install?

2019-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 03 April 2019 11:16:58 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 10:18:00PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >And the gparted for wheezy won't touch it. e2fsck is too old. So I'll > >start a new install in the morning. > > I have a vague recollection that we have been involved in

Re: Grrrrr, howinhell do I stop the 3 minutes of inactivity shutdown of a new stretch install?

2019-04-03 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 03.04.2019 23:00, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 03 April 2019 11:16:58 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 10:18:00PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> And the gparted for wheezy won't touch it. e2fsck is too old. So I'll >>> start a new install in the morning. >> I have a vag

Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen

2019-04-03 Thread Georgios
Thanks for your help! I will try that! I think grubing cdm decryption module makes the program too specific. I can think a couple use cases that full screen should prevent hibernation. On 4/2/19 3:55 PM, Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-02, Georgios wrote: >> I'm watching movies through netflix so I do

Re: Xfce Power Manger and watching movies full screen

2019-04-03 Thread Georgios
I understand what you are saying but I dont think its the simpler option to make 2 different launcher for the same application with different parameters. I will try the script Curt send me. I think that solution is applicable to other use cases. Reading pdf files, presentations etc. Thanks for you

Debian bridge with one VLAN iface - after upgrade from Deb 8 to 9 tc filters are bypassed for VLAN traffic?

2019-04-03 Thread kaskada
Hello community, This is problem related to Debian 9, bridge, VLAN interface and HTB tc filters for traffic shaping... For years I`m using Debian with bridged ethernet interfaces as a L2 transparent traffic shaper. Shaper is based on HTB with tc hash filters. In the bridge there is also o

Re: Grrrrr, howinhell do I stop the 3 minutes of inactivity shutdown of a new stretch install?

2019-04-03 Thread David Christensen
On 4/3/19 11:00 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: Now I have an even bigger problem. I have gone thru the netinstall of 9.8.0 at least 5 times. 1st time failed for unk reasons, but would not reboot. 2nd time I let the partitioner have its way on a 2T drive wiith a separate /home, so it gave / 30GB and an

Re: Debian bridge with one VLAN iface - after upgrade from Deb 8 to 9 tc filters are bypassed for VLAN traffic?

2019-04-03 Thread deloptes
kask...@email.cz wrote: > This setup worked smoothly for years until I upgraded Debian 8 do Debian 9 > (which I didn`t like to do but I had to, lets say). And now, in Debian 9 > only customer traffic which is not TAGged can reach tc filters and than is > properly send to appropriate tc class and s

How did relatime get set on my Wheezy system?

2019-04-03 Thread rhkramer
Background: When I set up my Wheezy system, I reserved (and formatted) a FAT32 partition on one of my disks for a possible installation of Windows. I now want to reformat that partition to ext4 to use for other purposes. What puzzles me is this -- when I look at /etc/fstab for some of the other

Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?

2019-04-03 Thread rhkramer
I'd like to set noatime (instead of relatime) for all of the partitions on my SSD, which basically includes all the executables (except for a few I've written myself and keep in a separate top level directory on my HDD). I've seen a statement some where that one needs to be careful about setti

Re: Has anybody run into problems setting noatime for the executable files on a Wheezy system (or any newer system)?

2019-04-03 Thread David Christensen
On 4/3/19 4:40 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to set noatime (instead of relatime) for all of the partitions on my SSD, which basically includes all the executables (except for a few I've written myself and keep in a separate top level directory on my HDD). I've seen a statement some whe

Re: How did relatime get set on my Wheezy system?

2019-04-03 Thread bw
In-Reply-To: <201904031938.34134.rhkra...@gmail.com> >UUID=874304c9-36c6-4572-909b-c4c75d13269a /var ext4 defaults 0 2 > >When I look at the same partition in /etc/mtab, I see this: > >/dev/sdb8 /var ext4 rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 > >What I don't understand, for example, is

Apt error

2019-04-03 Thread Joe B
Hello, I added a link to sources.list when I run apt update the link is dead and doesn’t resolve. I removed link from sources.list and ran apt update and it keeps looking for the dead link. How do I make this stop? Reboot didn’t resolve Thanks

Re: xfce launchers

2019-04-03 Thread Mike Kupfer
rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On at least one machine, some of the Xfce launchers are inoperative, > including the launcher for Synaptic and the launcher for Midnight > Commander I don't know about MC, but for Synaptic, is policykit-1-gnome installed on that system? (cf. https://bugs.debian.org/cg

Re: xfce launchers

2019-04-03 Thread rlharris
On 2019.04.03 23:26, Mike Kupfer wrote: I don't know about MC, but for Synaptic, is policykit-1-gnome installed on that system? (cf. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=881365) According to Synaptic, policykit-1-gnome is NOT installed.