Re: [OT] Howto use an environment that doesn't make use of GL for basic tasks

2018-12-12 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 11.12.2018 19:57, Dan Ritter wrote: > >>> What kind of hardware do you have? >> $ lspci -kv >> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce >> 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) >> stretch-backports non-free has 390.87-2~bpo9+1 which might help; >> i

Re: usb-disk path change and idle spindown

2018-12-12 Thread segfredo
ok found uas as the perpetator and 'options usb-storage quirks=0bc2:61b7:u' in modprobe.conf as a workaround, making the disks appear as ata-drives again. hdparm is also happy once more and disks spindown as usual :) would still be glad for any references/context or even a 'real fix' cheers

Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *, I am searching for my farm works an inexpensive (In the summer it is so dusty here, that nothing realy survive, including my ThinkPad T400 from which I have bought 6 pieces and currently using the 3rd one) TabletPC 10-12". However, all 10" TabletPC I have found on AlibabaExpress are nice

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Forgotten one thing: It can be also an Open-Frame PanelPC, because I have BIG LiPoly cells of 6Ah and 12Ah availlable and can also build my own housing. Adv.:I have Serial Ports, more USB, can have an attached heating element... Direct CD/DVD support... DisAdv.: Need external USB/Se

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 11:39:39 CET schrieb Michelle Konzack: Must it be a tablet? Same size are netbooks (like my EEEPC), with complete support of debian, a real keyboard and a light weight. Do not expect a tablet running debian as fast as Android, as Android is very special software w

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Frank Weißer
Hello Michelle, didn't find any for debian but maybe lineageos > https://lineageos.org/ is worth a look? My weeleyfox smartphone is now 2 years running it and I just got me a 'Asus Nexus 7, 7 Zoll Tablet, 1,5GHz, 2GB RAM, 32GB, WiFi, Android' on ebay, that will no longer suffer under android.

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 11.12.18 09:44, Dan Ritter wrote: > > mick crane wrote: > > > On 2018-12-10 20:02, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > > For the purpose of sr_drive_status(), the loop is really inappropriate. > > > > This function shall obtain the drive status and not wait until the > > > >

Re: issues with stretch, part 1 of many

2018-12-12 Thread Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă
On 30-11-2018, at 21h 22'48", Étienne Mollier wrote about "Re: issues with stretch, part 1 of many" > > Good Day Ionel, Salut Étienne, > > I haven't checked in Debian 8 how the thing behaves, but it > sounds like a change of default value in a configuration option. > More specifically, I have c

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:39:39PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello *, > > I am searching for my farm works an inexpensive (In the summer > it is so dusty here, that nothing realy survive, including my > ThinkPad T400 from which I have bought 6 pieces and currently > using the 3rd one) Table

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Joe
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 12:03:25 +0100 Hans wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 11:39:39 CET schrieb Michelle Konzack: > Must it be a tablet? Same size are netbooks (like my EEEPC), with > complete support of debian, a real keyboard and a light weight. > > Do not expect a tablet running debian

Re: wifi with no encryption: No DHCPOFFERS received

2018-12-12 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2018-12-11 15:45:19 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Check the link status: > > iw dev wlp61s0 link > > Look for the hotspot: > > iw dev wlp61s0 scan > > Connect to one: > > iw dev wlp61s0 connect "$ESSID" > > Run dhclient by hand: > > dhclient wlp61s0 > > Tell us where it falls down along tha

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> didn't find any for debian but maybe lineageos > https://lineageos.org/ LineageOS is nice, I strongly recommend it, BUT it is Android (just a nicer distribution of Android), so it doesn't fit the requirements, I think. Stefan

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Must it be a tablet? The main requirement on that side seems to be resistance to dust, so it has to be fanless and ideally closed more or less hermetically, so a non-mechanical keyboard is likely preferable as well. I think mainline Linux support for some ARM SoCs has improved enough that Debia

Re: wifi with no encryption: No DHCPOFFERS received

2018-12-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2018-12-11 15:45:19 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Check the link status: > > > > iw dev wlp61s0 link > > > > Look for the hotspot: > > > > iw dev wlp61s0 scan > > > > Connect to one: > > > > iw dev wlp61s0 connect "$ESSID" > > > > Run dhclient by hand: > > > > dhc

Re: (No Subject)

2018-12-12 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/11/18 3:45 PM, md wrote: md wrote: Using an old PATA-to-USB cable, I attached a 15 year old PATA DVD Drive It's better to include a subject so others can reference your problem and it's possible resolution in the future. Otherwise someone has to devote their time only to you. This ain'

Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-12 Thread Richard Owlett
I was introduced to Linux when Squeeze had become "stable". I thought default installs were not only too obese but didn't have some of my desired packages. That led to educational (& reasonably fruitful) experiments with preseeding. As some of my interest was focused on finding out just how sm

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Frank Weißer
Stefan Monnier: didn't find any for debian but maybe lineageos > https://lineageos.org/ LineageOS is nice, I strongly recommend it, BUT it is Android (just a nicer distribution of Android), so it doesn't fit the requirements, I think. it's android without the "I'd like to call home' parts, if

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 12. Dezember 2018, 16:10:36 CET schrieb Stefan Monnier: Yes, this is a point, I did not take care. However, an external keynboard might be also workable, as it is not expensive and can easily be exhanged. For the problem with dust, a toughbook might be the best solution, but it is e

installing at needs 19 other packages

2018-12-12 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, My upgraded Jessie machines still have the at command installed by default, my new Stretch machines do not have it. I just wanted to install at and noticed it has A LOT of required parts that I do not understand. Why does it want to install 19 packages like exim4-base and mysql-common? Is a

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> it's android without the "I'd like to call home' parts, if you choose the > bare install. AFAIK the bare install will still call home: every time you connect to a wifi network it performs an HTTP request to a Google server in order to detect whether the local connection gives you access to the i

Re: installing at needs 19 other packages

2018-12-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 11:38:39AM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > My upgraded Jessie machines still have the at command installed by default, > my new Stretch machines do not have it. > I just wanted to install at and noticed it has A LOT of required parts that I > do not understand. Why

Serious Hardware problems In multiple distros (grahpical/ethernet)

2018-12-12 Thread Mask The Truth God
Greetings, I have been having problem with my hardware for quite a while now and have been trying to figure it out on my own just by reading forms and such and I have found a few forms that helped but honestly most of them were complete idiots so I decided to make my own and explain in depth the

Re: Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-12 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > My interest has been rekindled. I wish to understand debootstrap. To > that end I do a minimalist bootable Debian installation. have you looked at the source code ? https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/debootstrap/tree/master it is written in sh. which is

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:21 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > it's android without the "I'd like to call home' parts, if you choose the > > bare install. > > AFAIK the bare install will still call home: every time you connect to > a wifi network it performs an HTTP request to a Google server in o

Re: Recommended debootsrap tutorials

2018-12-12 Thread Brian
On Wed 12 Dec 2018 at 13:47:18 -0500, songbird wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > ... > > My interest has been rekindled. I wish to understand debootstrap. To > > that end I do a minimalist bootable Debian installation. > > > have you looked at the source code ? > > https://salsa.debian.o

Re: About /dev/sr impatience with automatic tray loading

2018-12-12 Thread David Wright
On Wed 12 Dec 2018 at 06:27:06 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote: > Erik Christiansen wrote: > > On 11.12.18 09:44, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > mick crane wrote: > > > > On 2018-12-10 20:02, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > > > For the purpose of sr_drive_status(), the loop is really > > > > > inappropriate. > >

Re: issues with stretch, part 1 of many

2018-12-12 Thread Étienne Mollier
Hi Ionel, Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă , on 2018-12-12: > There is no such option already in my /etc/ssh/ssh_config. Well sample configurations are one thing, and documented ones another. And undocumented ones, which you will discover only by reading the source code, or obscure mailing list archives, a

Re: Serious Hardware problems In multiple distros (grahpical/ethernet)

2018-12-12 Thread Felix Miata
Mask The Truth God composed on 2018-12-12 18:38 (UTC): > ...1 8 gb ddr3 ram stick ... > gigabyte 970a-ud3p... Using a single RAM stick in a motherboard such as yours that supports dual channel memory architecture causes a nearly 50% memtest86 performance penalty compared to those using two or f

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Celejar writes: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:21 -0500 > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >> > it's android without the "I'd like to call home' parts, if you choose the >> > bare install. >> >> AFAIK the bare install will still call home: every time you connect to >> a wifi network it performs an HTTP req

DHCP log different location but warnings in syslog

2018-12-12 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, Plenty of examples on-line how to move logging from the isc-dhcp-server to a different file using something like log-facility local7; in the dhcp.conf file and then in my syslog.conf: *.debug,local6.none,local7.none /var/log/syslog # DHCP local7.debug

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I've always wondered how Android (and Windows) "know" whether you're > connected to the internet or not. I guess what you say make sense. Is > this documented somewhere? Is there a way to change the HTTP request to > some other host of your choosing? Supposedly there is, but I haven't found one

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 15:05:23 -0800 Kushal Kumaran wrote: > Celejar writes: ... > > I've always wondered how Android (and Windows) "know" whether you're > > connected to the internet or not. I guess what you say make sense. Is > > this documented somewhere? Is there a way to change the HTTP req

Re: Low-Cost Tablet PC suitable for Debian

2018-12-12 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:21 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > it's android without the "I'd like to call home' parts, if you choose the > > bare install. > > AFAIK the bare install will still call home: every time you connect to > a wifi network it performs an HTTP request to a Google server in o

Re: DHCP log different location but warnings in syslog

2018-12-12 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 12:52:58PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > Plenty of examples on-line how to move logging from the isc-dhcp-server to a > different file using something like > log-facility local7; > in the dhcp.conf file and then in my syslog.conf: > *.debug,local6.none