Re: PXE netboot to load OS from /dev/sda1

2017-10-27 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 07:35:49PM +0200, John Naggets wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed Debian 9 onto an old laptop with an SSD disk. > Unfortunately the BIOS does not support booting from that SSD disk so > I would like to "abuse" of PXE in order to boot my installed Linux > from /d

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Mart van de Wege
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: >> >> Actually, there's no need to duplicate the effort. As I understand it, >> resolvconf is basically an optional helper program. Software that >> automatically modifies /etc/resolv.conf should first tes

Re: The new normal of logging

2017-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 02:22:35PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <[1]j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com> wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez: Is this the new normal, for things to get captured in some systemd log [...]?

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 27/Oct/2017 05:21:48 +0200 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: >> https://www.linuxcounter.net/ >> I don't know how meaningful its data are. > > Utterly useless. Er... why was the OP looking for that data? Ale --

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 27 October 2017 03:46:27 Mart van de Wege wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> Actually, there's no need to duplicate the effort. As I understand > >> it, resolvconf is basically an optional helper program. Software >

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 07:49:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 27 October 2017 03:46:27 Mart van de Wege wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 12:24:32PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: >> Actually, there's no need to duplicate the effort. As I understand >> it, resol

Plain text vs. binary (was Re: The new normal of logging)

2017-10-27 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-10-27 at 05:36, Darac Marjal wrote: > A binary format is, really, nothing to be feared, so long as the > format is as well defined as plain text (because, when you look at > it, plain text IS binary, it's just an astoundingly well-agreed > encoding). The binary format underlying plain t

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 01:18:58PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > Who's saying it must be installed? A few people in this thread, though I think they're saying "should" rather than "must". > Maybe I've missed something, but I think > the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your resolv

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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 01:18:58PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > Who's saying it must be installed? Maybe I've missed something, but I think > the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your resolv.conf to be > unmanaged/static/administrator-controlled, then don't have resolvconf > ins

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Granted, it might be nice if resolvconf had an easier way to configure >> a static setup, but as it is now packages that need to access >> resolv.conf should do this through resolvconf if it is available, so >> installing and configuring it *is* the right way to handle this. > I must argue again

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Who's saying it must be installed? Maybe I've missed something, but I think > the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your resolv.conf to be > unmanaged/static/administrator-controlled, then don't have resolvconf > installed. This is a ridiculous idea. This thread is about a user

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 02:26:35PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > In any event, thanks to all who helped and who provided hints on things > to investigate/try. Later today I will update the poorly written wiki > article [0] to explain that immutable is a troubleshooting approach and > I wil

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:03:38AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > I finally got around to updating the wiki page today. Here is the link > for those who wish to have it as a reference or perhaps would like to > contribute to further improving it: > > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf I've

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: Celejar writes: https://www.linuxcounter.net/ I don't know how meaningful its data are. Utterly useless. I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". Those folks have maintained the site since 1999 or so. It is what it

Re: Serial Ports and Perl

2017-10-27 Thread Martin McCormick
Andy Smith writes: > Hi Martin, > > I have been using it successfully for a long time, but all I do is > read whole lines from the serial device like: > > my $dev = '/dev/ttyUSB0'; > my $port = Device::SerialPort->new($dev); > > $port->baudrate(57600); > $port->write_settings; > > open my $fh

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread x9p
On 2017-10-27 14:27, Ric Moore wrote: On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: Celejar writes: https://www.linuxcounter.net/ I don't know how meaningful its data are. Utterly useless. I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". Those folks have maintained the

salt on 9.1/2

2017-10-27 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Just curious if anyone is running the current git-based salt 2017.7.2 (10/9/17) on Debian 9.2 or 9.1, and if you have any views on that subject. And if anyone is using the NAPALM plugin there that would be very interesting. Thanks..Nick

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 27/10/17 17:27, Ric Moore wrote: > On 10/26/2017 11:21 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> Celejar writes: >>> https://www.linuxcounter.net/ >>> I don't know how meaningful its data are. >> >> Utterly useless. > > I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". > Those folks hav

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Curt
On 2017-10-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:03:38AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> I finally got around to updating the wiki page today. Here is the link >> for those who wish to have it as a reference or perhaps would like to >> contribute to further improving it: >> >

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Phil Dobbin wrote: > Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders. In case of loss, simply re-install https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0 Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
Interesting. I took a look at mine, and found lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug 8 2016 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf so the thing is now entirely dynamic. I don't know what setting it immutable would do or mean. I'm running xubuntu 16.04.3 LTS On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 5:35 AM,

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread John Hasler
Ric writes: > I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly > useless". It's a simple statement of fact. The Linux Counter data is utterly useless for the purpose of estimating the number of Linux users. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Brian
On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 18:27:09 +, Curt wrote: > On 2017-10-27, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:03:38AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > >> I finally got around to updating the wiki page today. Here is the link > >> for those who wish to have it as a reference or perhaps

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 08:35:05 (-0400), Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 01:18:58PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > Who's saying it must be installed? > > A few people in this thread, though I think they're saying "should" > rather than "must". > > > Maybe I've missed something, but

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 11:38:56 (-0700), Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > Interesting. I took a look at mine, and found > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug 8 2016 /etc/resolv.conf -> > ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf > > so the thing is now entirely dynamic. I don't know what setting it > immutable would do o

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread x9p
On 2017-10-27 16:41, John Hasler wrote: Ric writes: I wouldn't demean the Linux Counter effort calling it "Utterly useless". It's a simple statement of fact. The Linux Counter data is utterly useless for the purpose of estimating the number of Linux users. :%s/Linux/active Linux/g

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Curt
On 2017-10-27, Brian wrote: >> > >> >> Weird wiki. From "my issues" (sic) down it switches from third to >> first-person narration by what I suspect is a Germanophone and all hell >> breaks loose (grammatically speaking). > > It's a wiki. That tells you something. ("someone else apart from me > c

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 07:47:49PM +, Curt wrote: > My response is two venerable hot-shots from this very forum ventured > into that rather short wiki within the last 24 hours, made edits, > advertised them here, but couldn't be bothered to fix the fucking thing > and as a lesser mortal amongst

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 27/10/17 19:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Phil Dobbin wrote: >> Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty > > Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders. > In case of loss, simply re-install > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0.1-0 :-) Cheers,

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread Terence
Done that, Phil, but can't see any change on my boot-up speed, nor in my response time. What else can you suggest? Feeling down, Saki On 27 October 2017 at 21:03, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 27/10/17 19:37, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Phil Dobbin wrote: > >> Kingsley Amis on his loss

Re: estamated number of Linux users?

2017-10-27 Thread Michael Lange
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 20:37:22 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Phil Dobbin wrote: > > Kingsley Amis on his loss of libido when he turned fifty > > Not a problem any more in our times of digital wonders. > In case of loss, simply re-install > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libido3-0

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Mart van de Wege
Darac Marjal writes: > > Who's saying it must be installed? Maybe I've missed something, but I > think the consensus in this discussion was that if you want your > resolv.conf to be unmanaged/static/administrator-controlled, then > don't have resolvconf installed. If you have resolvconf installed

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Mart van de Wege
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > Think about that for a minute. The mere action of an interface (any > interface on the system) obtaining a DHCP lease is sufficient to have > dhclient think it needs to obliterate my manual networking configuration > with settings from the DHCP server. Well, yes. Th

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Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:46:53PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > > Think about that for a minute. The mere action of an interface (any > > interface on the system) obtaining a DHCP lease is sufficient to have > > dhclient think it needs to obliterate my manual n

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Fri 27 Oct 2017 at 18:05:23 (-0400), Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 11:46:53PM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > > > > Think about that for a minute. The mere action of an interface (any > > > interface on the system) obtaining a DHCP lease

Re: Why does resolv.conf keep changing?

2017-10-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 07:49:29AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I must argue against it, until as you say, resolvconf is given a well documented way to be told to leave a "static" system alone. Until such time, I'll make /etc/resolv.conf a real file, and mark it and /etc/network/interfaces immutab

Re: The new normal of logging

2017-10-27 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 27/10/17 17:52, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 26 October 2017 21:21:37 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: On 27/10/17 13:02, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 26 October 2017 15:22:35 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: " And there's also systemd, that is slowly phagocytosing the UNIX part of Linux" I'm o

Re: The new normal of logging

2017-10-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 27 October 2017 22:47:26 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > On 27/10/17 17:52, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 26 October 2017 21:21:37 Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > >> On 27/10/17 13:02, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> On Thursday 26 October 2017 15:22:35 Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > " And ther