No ifconfig [Was: no /etc/inittab]

Greg Wooledge: wooledg:~$ ip link 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether a0:8c:fd:c3:89:e0 brd

Re: One-line password generator

Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > The relevant Linux man pages were > recently updated to clarify that once seeded, /dev/urandom is > sufficient for any use > [...] > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71211 Maybe there are stronger reasons to abandon /dev/random. But that thread states as only ot

No ifconfig

Christian Seiler: From my personal experience, the following two things are features I'm actually using regularly and that don't work with it: 1. IPv6 doesn't really work properly (as explained elsewhere by other people in this thread) 2. Can't add multiple IP addresses to the s

Re: How does one create virtual ethernet devices with modern tools on Debian 8 (jessie)?

Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 05:45:17PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: >> You don't. Commands like "service networking restart" have been >> deprecated and partially non-functioning since at least Wheezy, >> because of the internal limit of ifupdown itself. > So to do text-config

No ifconfig

Eike Lantzsch: Yes, I ask myself why this isn't possible on Linux: ifconfig enp3s0 inet alias 192.168.12.206 netmask 255.255.255.0 while it is perfectly possible on OpenBSD (with the correct device of course). It's possible if you spell it |inet add| instead of |inet alias|. (-:

Re: obsolete wiki

rhkra...@gmail.com: Well, even a vague note on the page something like: "Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of systemd and its adoption in Debian starting with version n.n (). If you can contribute anything more to this story, please do." ...would be a start. That sort of

history questions about how changelog.gz and changelog.Debian.gz came about.

Dear all, Please CC me if anybody has an answer to below as I'm not subscribed to either of the mailing lists due to the volume both ML generate. I like the way Debian gives various changelogs . For instance for most packages it has - changelog.gz - This is the upstream changelog giving d

Re: One-line password generator

On 2017-08-28, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > But i myself have two use cases for (pseudo-)random numbers: > - Small but hard secrets which i need for security purposes. > - 3 times 25 GB of random stream to surely shake up the bits on a BD-RE > medium which previously contained embarassing data. He

Re: One-line password generator

Hi, Curt wrote: > Here's a fresh (20 July of this year) view by Theodore Ts'o: > https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/20/993 An opinion of substantial weight, indeed. Nevertheless it would be more interesting to learn the reason why Linux did not simply make /dev/random behave like /dev/urandom long ago

Re: XFCE wm deadlocks on (other) console logout

On 2017-08-28, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I consistently get a deadlock of the XFCE window manager, immediately > after I logout of say Linux console 2, when e.g. XFCE is running on > console 1. > > Procedure to replicate: > > 1. login to console 1 > > 2. start xfce > > 3. switch to console 2 (e.g.

Re: obsolete wiki

On Monday, August 28, 2017 04:55:11 AM Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com: > > Well, even a vague note on the page something like: > > > > "Some of this seems to be out of date with the advent of systemd and > > its adoption in Debian starting with version n.n (). > > If you can

Debian pre installed

Hello, I,am hoping you can help me. I,am looking to buy a new laptop, But would like Debian 9 pre-installed on it. Can you please tell me where I can get one from. Tried installing it on Lenovo r61i but to no avail. Hope you can help. Regards Banks Mawson Isle of Man Sent from

Re: Debian pre installed

On 28-08-17, Banks Mawson wrote: > Hello, > I,am hoping you can help me. I,am looking to buy a new laptop, > But would like Debian 9 pre-installed on it. > Can you please tell me where I can get one from. > Tried installing it on Lenovo r61i but to no avail. > Hope you can help. > Regards

Re: One-line password generator

Hello, On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04:51PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > And again, the argumentation of Theodore is that there is always enough > entropy at hand. I understand that in this situation there is no difference > between /dev/random and /dev/urandom. > The difference appears only when

Re: Parler est comme jouer au tennis avec des réceptions et envois de la balle Pauline

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Re: Create virtual ethernet devices on Debian 9 stretch ?

Hi. On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 02:52:48PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > "Right now" my aim is to run virt-manager or qemu, with kvm > underneath, with a host-only virtual network to which I shall connect > two virtual machines, and the host machine, and run some nfs or samba > thing to shar

Re: One-line password generator

Hi, i wrote: > > I understand that in this situation there is no difference > > between /dev/random and /dev/urandom. > > The difference appears only when the assumption of wealth is not fulfilled. Andy Smith wrote: > It cannot be "not fulfilled" except in the very early boot sequence. Well, the

Re: Resign me from your lists

On Monday 28 August 2017 09:11:01 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> I have to admit that I do not know what specific header you are > >> talking about. > >> > >> I was not aware that this mailing list was used in “From:” > >> spoof

Re: XFCE wm deadlocks on (other) console logout

On 8/28/17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I consistently get a deadlock of the XFCE window manager, immediately > after I logout of say Linux console 2, when e.g. XFCE is running on > console 1. > > Procedure to replicate: > > 1. login to console 1 > > 2. start xfce > > 3. switch to console 2 (e.g. CTR

Re: Parler est comme jouer au tennis avec des réceptions et envois de la balle Pauline

On 28/08/17 12:42, ranet.boua...@free.fr wrote: > c qui Hi. This the Debian User list for English speakers. You can find the French variant here: Cheers Phil. -- "For 50 years it was like being chained to an idiot" Kingsley Amis on his los

Re: Resign me from your lists

From: marioxcc...@yandex.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On 27/08/17 18:15, Ben Finney wrote: >> Mario Castelán Castro writes: >> >>> I assumed originally that this was a person who subscribed then >>> realized he did not want to be subscribed and decided to complain to >>> the list ab

Re: Resign me from your lists

On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: >> > >> > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone >> > that's on the list. Like this: [...] > > I just looked at my copy, it did not contain that string in > x-spam-status. I'm in usual in-the-moment cogni

Re: Resign me from your lists

On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: >> I have to admit that I do not know what specific header you are talking >> about. >> >> I was not aware that this mailing list was used in “From:” spoofing. > > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone that's >

Re: Resign me from your lists

On 27/08/17 18:15, Ben Finney wrote: > Mario Castelán Castro writes: > >> I assumed originally that this was a person who subscribed then >> realized he did not want to be subscribed and decided to complain to >> the list about that. > > Even on that assumption, there is no call to insult the pe

Re: Resign me from your lists

On 28/08/17 09:18, Fungi4All wrote: > Are you suggesting someone should read 4856 pages of manuals > before they install Debian, let alone ask a "dumb question"? No, you can learn as you need it. I know that manuals are long and tedious. I do not expect you to read it all before asking, but I exp

Re: Resign me from your lists

On Monday 28 August 2017 10:22:48 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > >> > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone > >> > that's on the list. Like this: [...] > > > > I just looked at my copy, it did not contain th

Re: Resign me from your lists

Hi. On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 09:20:16 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 August 2017 09:11:01 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > > On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: > > > Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > > >> I have to admit that I do not know what specific header you are > > >> talking abou

Re: Resign me from your lists

Hi, Reco wrote: > Due to the way GMail is broken I don't see any vaild headers in my own > replies to the list of course. Yours is X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.9 required=4.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VERIFIED,FREEMAIL_FROM,LDOSUBSCRIBER,LDO_WHITELIST, RCVD_IN_DN

How can I enable ufw firewall tool with an existing set of iptables rules?

Installing and enabling ufw sounds easy, but how is the existing set of iptables rules treated? I want to use ufw on a remote server and losing ssh would be disastrous! Thanks. -Tom

Re: Laptop randomly reboots

On 06/13/2017 02:27 PM, Sam Smith wrote: On 05/12/2017 03:38 PM, Sam Smith wrote: On 01/20/2017 08:04 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I'll try to keep this short. I bought a used Lenovo T520 back in May. It had the motherboard with nvidia GPU. Because it sucks power and doesn't really have good suspend/re

Re: How can I enable ufw firewall tool with an existing set of iptables rules?

Smart way to do it is to setup a cron job to run shell script that will flush (or restore to default working ruleset) iptables rules every 10 minutes. With this approach, even if you mess up your iptables rules and loose ssh, you can simply wait for 10 minutes and reconnect to ssh. Take your time a

Re: How can I enable ufw firewall tool with an existing set of iptables rules?

On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 20:01:54 + Tom Browder wrote: > Installing and enabling ufw sounds easy, but how is the existing set > of iptables rules treated? I want to use ufw on a remote server and > losing ssh would be disastrous! > I confess to no specific knowledge here, but I suspect none of

Re: Resign me from your lists

On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 28 August 2017 10:22:48 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > >> On 8/28/17, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> On 28/08/17 01:09, Reco wrote: >> >> > X-Spam-Status contains LDOSUBSCRIBER for you, me, and everyone >> >> > that's on the list. Like this: [...] >> > >> > I jus

[Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

Hello, I'm trying to set up armhf on arm64 stretch but it does not work: file /tmp/bash/bin/bash /tmp/bash/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-armhf.so.3, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, BuildID[sha1]=e3aedef3dd05738b73e7756dd

USB external hard drive -- mounting

Greetings: I'm in the process of setting up a new server, running Debian Jessie 8.9, replacing a Windows Server 2003 box (the same physical hardware). One of the functions of this server is to automatically (via a script run from cron) back up data (mostly on other servers, via FTP and SCP)

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

Hi. On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:50:17 +0200 Adam Cécile wrote: > Hello, > > > I'm trying to set up armhf on arm64 stretch but it does not work: > > > file /tmp/bash/bin/bash > > /tmp/bash/bin/bash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, EABI5 version 1 > (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

Reco wrote: > The reason being - an executable binary contains CPU instructions that > are suited to CPU of designated architecture only. In your example it's > armv5. Your CPU is amd64 and its unable to interpret those - it can only > understand i386 and amd64 instruction sets. No, he is talkin

Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

Hi, I'm actually running arm64, not amd64 ;-) Le 28 août 2017 23:25:56 GMT+02:00, Reco a écrit : > Hi. > >On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:50:17 +0200 >Adam Cécile wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> >> I'm trying to set up armhf on arm64 stretch but it does not work: >> >> >> file /tmp/bash/bin/bash >>

Re: How can I enable ufw firewall tool with an existing set of iptables rules?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 15:49 Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > Smart way to do it is to setup a cron job to run shell script that will > flush (or restore to default working ruleset) iptables rules every 10 > minutes. Thanks, Alexander. -Tom

Re: How can I enable ufw firewall tool with an existing set of iptables rules?

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 15:54 Joe wrote: ... I confess to no specific knowledge here, but I suspect none of the > firewall front-ends will accommodate an arbitrary iptables ruleset, as > the front-ends impose their own structure which would almost certainly > conflict. > Unfortunately, ufw doesn

Re: USB external hard drive -- mounting

On 29/08/17 09:25, James H. H. Lampert wrote: Can anybody advise me on how to set this thing up so that if it's plugged in, it will mount, to a consistent mountpoint, whether anybody's signed on to Gnome or not? I am not sure about the background automounting, but I get consistent mount point

Re: USB external hard drive -- mounting

On 8/28/17, 4:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: I am not sure about the background automounting, but I get consistent mount points and mount settings with entries like these in /etc/fstab: LABEL=Backup/media/backup ext4 noatime,noauto,user,errors=remount-ro 0

Re: USB external hard drive -- mounting

On 29/08/17 12:19, James H. H. Lampert wrote: First, I was able to relabel the drive as a suitably generic "ExternalHD," and when I unplugged it and plugged it back in, it mounted (albeit still under a user-specific, auto-created mount point) as that label. With the drive automounted, I did a "

Re: One-line password generator

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 12:04:51PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Curt wrote: > > Here's a fresh (20 July of this year) view by Theodore Ts'o: > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/7/20/993 > > An opinion of substantial weight, indeed. > > Nevertheless it would be more interesting to learn the

Re: XFCE wm deadlocks on (other) console logout

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 09:02:29AM -0400, bw wrote: > > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2017, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > I consistently get a deadlock of the XFCE window manager, immediately > > after I logout of say Linux console 2, when e.g. XFCE is running on > > console 1. > > > > Procedure to replicate

Re: XFCE wm deadlocks on (other) console logout

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 09:20:32AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/28/17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > I consistently get a deadlock of the XFCE window manager, immediately > > after I logout of say Linux console 2, when e.g. XFCE is running on > > console 1. > > > > Procedure to replicate: >

Re: USB external hard drive -- mounting

On 28/08/17 18:07, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > The above lines give me fixed mount points based on filesystem labels > (LABEL), but UUID will also work. Device names are no good as they are > by default dynamically assigned for USB storage devices. To complement the information given by Ben Carado

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Re: [Multiarch] armhf on arm64 is not working

Hi. On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:33:50 +0200 Hitec Adam Cecile wrote: > Hi, > > I'm actually running arm64, not amd64 ;-) My eyes are failing me then ☺. Can you provide your /proc/cpuinfo then please? Reco