Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/16/2017 10:23 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 05/16/2017 11:04 PM, SDA wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:50:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: *ROFL!* ;/ I've been a computer _user_ for a half-century. About 5 years ago I started seriously plotting my escape from the gloppy GUI of an organizatio

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:26:51PM -0400, Fungi4All wrote: > But in recent times have brought me various frustrations with deb... > particularly with resolv.conf acting as it has a mind of its own and > vanishing my set of dns collections and replacing them with its believed to > be best for me. I

Re: Update Notifier

On 05/14/2017 04:03 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 04:32:44PM +, sare...@att.net wrote: Why doesn't Debian 8 Cinnamon notify when updates are ready to install after all these years Debian has existed? Don't tell me there is one, because after installing Debian I waited a lo

Re: Update Notifier

Op 17-05-17 om 14:42 schreef RavenLX: I love that Debian doesn't have an updater/notifier. Erm... gnome-packagekit + pk-update-icon ? Regards, Frank (yes, that one...)

Re: Update Notifier

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 08:42:17AM -0400, RavenLX wrote: On 05/14/2017 04:03 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 04:32:44PM +, sare...@att.net wrote: Why doesn't Debian 8 Cinnamon notify when updates are ready to install after all these years Debian has existed? Don't tell me t

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

On 05/14/2017 07:51 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I've never used a VM but I wanted to ask some newbie questions about them. I regularly use Virtual Machines quite a lot for testing purposes. I'll be glad to cover your questions. For these questions, I'll be answering them based on using Vir

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/16/2017 07:22 AM, Thanatos Incarnate wrote: Hello there, My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove profile, KDE having GUI el

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/16/2017 02:18 PM, deloptes wrote: Thanatos Incarnate wrote: My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove profile, KDE having GUI el

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On 05/16/2017 11:23 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 05/16/2017 11:04 PM, SDA wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:50:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: *ROFL!* ;/ I've been a computer _user_ for a half-century. About 5 years ago I started seriously plotting my escape from the gloppy GUI of an organizat

Re: Update Notifier

On 05/17/2017 08:59 AM, Frank wrote: Op 17-05-17 om 14:42 schreef RavenLX: I love that Debian doesn't have an updater/notifier. Erm... gnome-packagekit + pk-update-icon ? No thanks. Not for me. But I think the OP might like it. :) I actually wasn't being sarcastic in my message. I actually

Re: Update Notifier

On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 09:03:47 AM Darac Marjal wrote: > -- > For more information, please reread. I love your sig! (It often works.)

Re: repo signing key for wheezy is dead?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, 17 May 2017 00:06:54 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: >Meaning this is the end of wheezy support? Or can I get a new key? > >Thanks. > >Cheers, Gene Heskett Wheezy is still supported by the Debian LTS team. It depends on the repo, I think. http

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

Raven, Thanks! Randy Kramer On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 09:03:51 AM RavenLX wrote: --< good stuff snipped >--

Re: Update Notifier

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 10:12:53AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, May 17, 2017 09:03:47 AM Darac Marjal wrote: -- For more information, please reread. I love your sig! (It often works.) I can't claim credit for it, I'm afraid. It was (still is?) the strapline for Public Info

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

Hello. I'm new here so i would like to confirm/ask some questions. First of all as far as i can understand Debian stretch is frozen. And is becoming more and more stable since no more packages are added and from now on the development team just fix bugs. I'm thinking installing Debian testing (st

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 05:57:29PM +0300, G wrote: > I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then > follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian > testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing > becomes stable? No. You just ke

Re: repo signing key for wheezy is dead?

On Wednesday 17 May 2017 09:48:54 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2017 00:06:54 -0400 > > Gene Heskett wrote: > >Meaning this is the end of wheezy support? Or can I get a new key? > > > >Thanks. > > > >Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Wheezy is still supported by the Debian LTS team. It depends

Re: Update Notifier

On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 04:32:44PM +, sare...@att.net wrote: > Why doesn't Debian 8 Cinnamon notify when updates are ready to install after > all these years Debian has existed? Don't tell me there is one, because after > installing Debian I waited a long time to see if a notification would p

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 05:57:29PM +0300, G wrote: Hello. I'm new here so i would like to confirm/ask some questions. First of all as far as i can understand Debian stretch is frozen. And is becoming more and more stable since no more packages are added and from now on the development team just

Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

Hi, I received this message when installing from the Debian 8.8 netinstall ISO (debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso) Initial error was for ftp.uk.debian.org. I tried several others (including ftp.fr.debian.org and mirror.bytemark.co.uk) with simila

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

On 05/17/2017 06:03 AM, RavenLX wrote: Those Windows VMs though are a pain. Just warning you. If you don't absolutely NEED one, I'd advise not even bothering. I'm seriously considering just deleting mine. Can you expand on that? New to VMs, considering them as an alternative to dualboot,

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

On Wednesday 17 May 2017 15:57:29 G wrote: > I'm thinking installing Debian testing (stretch)on my laptop and then > follow stretch but i am wondering what will happen when todays Debian > testing becomes stable. Am i have to reinstall Debian when testing > becomes stable? No. > > I search around

Re: Error on install: Repository "couldn't be accessed"

On 05/17/2017 12:20 PM, Robert Hardy (r.hardy) wrote: Hi, I received this message when installing from the Debian 8.8 netinstall ISO (debian-8.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso) Initial error was for ftp.uk.debian.org . I tried several others (including ftp.fr.debian.org

Re: Virtual Machines: Newbie / novice questions

On 05/17/2017 12:42 PM, craigswin wrote: On 05/17/2017 06:03 AM, RavenLX wrote: Those Windows VMs though are a pain. Just warning you. If you don't absolutely NEED one, I'd advise not even bothering. I'm seriously considering just deleting mine. Can you expand on that? New to VMs, conside

stretch not booting

Dear all, I've installed stretch from a DI RC3 image (from here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/) a couple of weeks back on an old Dell Inspiron Mini 1018. The install went without a problem and I could reboot just fine. I then updated it, installed

Package on which Bug must be reported ? (Trackpad)

Hello all, I recently came across a few issues with Debian stretch for which I would like to file a bug report. I couldn't find the correct package on which to file the issue and hence sending this email expecting to identify them. The first issue is described below. Further issues follow in separ

Re: stretch not booting

On Wed 17 May 2017 at 13:41:03 -0400, Luis Finotti wrote: > I've installed stretch from a DI RC3 image (from here: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/) > a couple of weeks back on an old Dell Inspiron Mini 1018. Is this the only OS on the machine? > Th

Re: UEFI + Raid

On 05/16/2017 12:40 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 16/05/2017 à 19:12, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Also, when using the default ID ("debian"), it deletes any existing EFI boot entry whose name contains "debian" (case insensitive IIRC). I've used this now

Re: UEFI + Raid

Le 17/05/2017 à 20:07, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/16/2017 12:40 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Because of what I left quoted just above, I advise again using "debian" as a sub-chain in the ID, because such entry may be deleted by a later uncautious invocation of grub-install. Wait, it (grub-instal

Re: stretch not booting

Thanks for the reply! On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Brian wrote: > On Wed 17 May 2017 at 13:41:03 -0400, Luis Finotti wrote: > > > I've installed stretch from a DI RC3 image (from here: > > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/ > cd-including-firmware/) > > a couple of weeks

Re: stretch not booting

I had exactly the same problem recently with almost the same laptop: Dell Inspiron Mini 1012 that I had previously given to a friend. I switched it back to Jessie.

Re: stretch not booting

On Wed 17 May 2017 at 14:22:47 -0400, Luis Finotti wrote: > Thanks for the reply! No problem. There are GRUB experts on this list who are keeping an eye on this thread, I hope. > On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Brian wrote: > > > On Wed 17 May 2017 at 13:41:03 -0400, Luis Finotti wrote: > > >

Re: stretch not booting

> Let me know if I can provide anymore info or if this gives you any idea of > > what is wrong... > > At the GRUB menu hit "c" and type > > set root=(hd0,msdos1) > linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 > initrd /initrd.img > boot > > and hit the ENTER key. > > Do you boot into the OS? No. I get stu

Re: Package on which Bug must be reported ? (Trackpad)

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:06:26PM +0530, Kaartic Sivaraam wrote: > Issue 1 (with a related issue) : > > I use Debian stretch on my laptop. The track pad of my laptop > isn't detected correctly. As a result, taps aren't considered as clicks > and I have to click the left / right button in the trac

Re: stretch not booting

On Wed 17 May 2017 at 15:07:54 -0400, Luis Finotti wrote: > > Let me know if I can provide anymore info or if this gives you any idea of > > > > what is wrong... > > > > At the GRUB menu hit "c" and type > > > > set root=(hd0,msdos1) > > linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 > > initrd /initrd.img > >

Re: stretch not booting

> No. I get stuck again. > > You were able to type these commands? What do you mean by "stuck"? After > pressing ENTER do you get anything on the screen? What do you see? Yes, I am able to type those and boot starts, but gets stuck in the middle. No HD activity and Ctrl+Alt+Del (or any other c

Re: stretch not booting

>I had exactly the same problem recently with almost the same laptop: >Dell Inspiron Mini 1012 that I had previously given to a friend. I >switched it back to Jessie. I can confirm this on Dell Mini 1012, installation is successful, first boot is okay. After reboot all boots fail at various plac