On Thursday, 13 April 2017 01:23:02 CEST Dejan Jocic wrote:
> He should have old kernel still installed, right? If that is the case,
> he could simply boot with old kernel.
Yes, I still have 4.9.0-1-amd64.
The point is even in the GRUB menu screen my keyboard no longer works well,
which is even
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 21:11:30 -0500
David Wright wrote:
>
> BTW I was surprised not to see mention of the Ken Thompson hack
> in what I snipped.
>
Old stuff. I'd expect every significant compiler on the planet to have
been compromised by one government or another long ago.
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On 13-04-17, solitone wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 April 2017 01:23:02 CEST Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > He should have old kernel still installed, right? If that is the case,
> > he could simply boot with old kernel.
>
> Yes, I still have 4.9.0-1-amd64.
>
> The point is even in the GRUB menu screen my ke
On Thursday, 13 April 2017 09:53:05 CEST Dejan Jocic wrote:
> If you have old kernel, you do not have to choose it in the GRUB menu during
> boot, you can set up your GRUB to boot from it automatically.
I have a submenu entry in my grub.cfg:
solitone@alan:~$ grep --color menu /boot/grub/grub.cfg
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:42:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> I have been doing some research, I have also managed to break and
> restore a few systems trying to run them without systemd. Possibly a
> harder task than I thought it might be. Possibly unnecessarily complex,
> I don't know.
> But h
Joel Rees:
> kAt, write a novel.
>
> My dad used to tell me, if I wanted to change things, I'd have to
> change them from the inside. It's a poor expression of the principle
> because you can't get "inside" far enough without X, Y, or Z, and they
> all make it very difficult to change things onc
On Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:27:22 CEST Michael Lange wrote:
> I would try to install a different kernel (if possible with external
> keyboard) and boot into that one, if the problem disappears the culprit is
> most likely the kernel.
I managed to boot into the older kernel that I still had in th
On 13-04-17, solitone wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 April 2017 09:53:05 CEST Dejan Jocic wrote:
> > If you have old kernel, you do not have to choose it in the GRUB menu during
> > boot, you can set up your GRUB to boot from it automatically.
>
> I have a submenu entry in my grub.cfg:
>
> solitone@al
Catherine Gramze:
> /snip...
I did not ask for advice on what to do, we are discussing the freedom of
choice, remember?
> Debian is not in the business of catering to the special needs of conspiracy
> theorists,
> but of looking to a technologically developing and progressing future and
> makin
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:02:06 +0200
solitone wrote:
> On Thursday, 13 April 2017 00:27:22 CEST Michael Lange wrote:
> > I would try to install a different kernel (if possible with external
> > keyboard) and boot into that one, if the problem disappears the
> > culprit is most likely the kernel.
>
On Thursday, 13 April 2017 11:20:34 CEST Michael Lange wrote:
> Another thought: if that is possible, have you tried to boot into a live
> system, just to rule out a hardware issue?
I had used Apple Diagnostics to perform a hardware check, and nothing wrong
was found.
After that, I tried and re
On 04/12/2017 02:03 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 12/04/2017 à 20:33, Richard Owlett a écrit :
On 04/12/2017 12:13 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
[snip]
- while the SD card is inserted, in the GRUB menu press "c" to enter a
GRUB shell and report the result of the "ls" command.
(hd0) (hd0, msdos
On 04/12/2017 02:11 PM, songbird wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
...
ran across http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=128777
not sure if will help or not, but does point to what i
was thinking (bios, uefi, partition issue or module not
being loaded by grub).
It will take me a while to v
On Thursday, 13 April 2017 11:02:06 CEST solitone wrote:
> Apparenlty the only way I can restore functioning of the integrated keyboard
> and trackpad is by booting up with an external usb keyboard and an external
> usb mouse plugged in. I have the usual issues in grub and during bootup,
> but when
On Thursday 06 April 2017 19:41:15 Richard Owlett wrote:
> I've been avoiding Google for personal reasons and using DuckDuckGo
> instead. DuckDuckGo does not return that page - I'd assumed the two
> search engines were equally productive.
No, they are not. That is why some of us sadly use Google
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On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 02:43:48PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 06 April 2017 19:41:15 Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I've been avoiding Google for personal reasons and using DuckDuckGo
> > instead. DuckDuckGo does not return that page - I'd assum
tomas writes:
> Part of Google's perceived superiority is that it "learns to know
> you": a couple of search terms thrown in, for Google is "search terms
> + context", while for DDG, the context is missing.
Google does not "learn to know you" if you block all its scripts and
cookies, which is how
> On Apr 13, 2017, at 5:23 AM, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
>
> Catherine Gramze:
>> /snip...
>
> I did not ask for advice on what to do, we are discussing the freedom of
> choice, remember?
Yes, your freedom of choice to attempt to do something ridiculous. Making
choices that are not within the realm
On 04/12/2017 02:23 PM, Brian wrote:
On Wed 12 Apr 2017 at 13:33:02 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On theory "too much better than too little" I see:
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux (
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:02:54PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 09:09:45AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > Fedora is the development and test bed for RHEL much as Debian
> > Testing is for Stable.
>
> That's not a perfect analogy by any means: Fedora is used as a test
Le 13/04/2017 à 13:40, Richard Owlett a écrit :
On 04/12/2017 02:03 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 12/04/2017 à 20:33, Richard Owlett a écrit :
On 04/12/2017 12:13 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
[snip]
- while the SD card is inserted, in the GRUB menu press "c" to enter a
GRUB shell and report th
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:43:26 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> tomas writes:
> > Part of Google's perceived superiority is that it "learns to know
> > you": a couple of search terms thrown in, for Google is "search terms
> > + context", while for DDG, the context is missing.
>
> Google does not "learn
On 04/12/2017 01:49 PM, songbird wrote:
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 12/04/2017 à 17:14, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Whether initiated after power-on OR a restart the observed sequence is:
1. Appearance of the Grub2 menu with a choice of 4 instances of Debian.
2. Select instance installed on the SD
Hans wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I am a little bit confused about mail behaviour. There are two things,
> I do not understand.
>
> First of all, the following:
>
> When I was long time online with another computer, reading my mails,
> and then switch to another computer back, then I rsync the Mailfol
tomas writes:
> Part of Google's perceived superiority is that it "learns to know
> you": a couple of search terms thrown in, for Google is "search terms
> + context", while for DDG, the context is missing.
I wrote:
> Google does not "learn to know you" if you block all its scripts and
> cookies,
Hi Dan,
> How are these computers connecting to the mailserver? If it's IMAP, the
> client and server will resync when the client connects ... so if your
> oldPC last sync'd a month ago, it'll take it a while to validate what
> it's supposed to do with the (now deleted) messages that it still sees
Am Donnerstag, 13. April 2017, 15:47:07 CEST schrieb Dan Purgert:
Hi Dan,
> How are these computers connecting to the mailserver? If it's IMAP, the
> client and server will resync when the client connects ... so if your
> oldPC last sync'd a month ago, it'll take it a while to validate what
> it's
On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 10:17:23 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 04/12/2017 02:23 PM, Brian wrote:
> >
> >So try this:
> >When the GRUB menu displays press the "e" key and remove the
> >
> > search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
> > 380e2a6d-f851-4fd1-9db2-869a0982b511
> >
> >Then press the "F
John Hasler:
> I see no evidence that it does, nor do I see any reason why it would
> bother. At least 99% of its users accept the cookies and scripts. Why
> would it care about a few weirdos like me given that it wouldn't work
> very well anyway?
It is reporting on weirdos like you that paves
Hi,
I tried to find out X I have and it seemed to be lightdm. So I killed that
proces but only my GUI was gone.
Find and Locate did not find nvidia.ko
So this did not work for me.
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12. Apr 2017 20:26 by han
On 04/13/2017 05:56 PM, Neoklis Kyriazis wrote:
> I have installed (for the first time) Debian Testing (stretch) on my
> laptop and tried to enable Emulate3Buttons for my 2-button Kensington
> trackball. I tried a lot of solutions I found by searching but none
> seems to work. I have the same probl
Hi,
I switched to init 1. I performed a dkpg --configure on the lib11 etc but it
did not work.
Then I decided to try remove the packages one by one:
dpkg --purge nvidia-glx: succes
dpkg --purge nvidia-driver: succes
dpkg --purge xserver-xorg-video-nvidia: succes with messages among which:
update
First of all: Which nvidia card do you have?
lspci shows information.
Hans
> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
> dpkg --purge libg11-nvidia-glx:amd64 with message:
>
It is libgl1-nvidia-glx, not libg11-*
Is it a typo?
Hans
This started out a year or so ago with the occasional site in
which lynx would report that it was unable to establish a TLS
connection with this or that site. The next step on the road to
train reck is that lynx says it's trying an insecure connection
without TLS. That's nice that it tries and on s
Yes it was a typo!
Purged it now, going to restart and see.
I'll be back (I hope ...)
thanks.
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13. Apr 2017 18:51 by hans.ullr...@loop.de:
>> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
>> d
Are you after this info:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 525M]
(rev a1)
?
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13. Apr 2017 18:49 by hans.ullr...@loop.de:
> First of all: Which nvidia card do you have?
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:54:32AM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
> This started out a year or so ago with the occasional site in
> which lynx would report that it was unable to establish a TLS
> connection with this or that site. [...]
It's not just lynx. It's EVERY single terminal-based browser
On 04/13/2017 06:36 PM, Christian Seiler wrote:
> Debian Stretch uses libinput for handling input by default, even
> on Xorg, instead of the default evdev driver that was used
> previously. The option for the middle mouse button emulation
> is disabled.
Err, I meant "renamed", not "disabled", sorr
Am Donnerstag, 13. April 2017, 19:00:00 CEST schrieb Aquarius:
> Are you after this info:
Yes, it is then 340 driver.
I wanted to make sure, you chose the correct driver.
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT
> 525M] (rev a1) ?
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Ok, maybe try my way:
When I install nvidia driver, I first check, if all depenedencies are there.
Best way, module-assistant, check, if it is installed.
Then try:
m-a
This opens a ncurses interface. Check now, if all dependencies (kernel-headers
etc. ) are installed. Module-assistant does t
Additionally I saw, debian offers prebuilt nvidia-kernel-headers for 3.16
kernel. Maybe these are running for your system? I am running kernel 4.9.0-2-
*, as I am running debian testing.
Hans
Hans,
How do I do this when in the menu:
"This opens a ncurses interface. Check now, if all dependencies (kernel-headers
etc. ) are installed. Module-assistant does this for you."?
And can I do: "Then just install libgl1-nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-dkms"
with apt-get install as well?
Thanks
Am Donnerstag, 13. April 2017, 19:25:01 CEST schrieb Aquarius:
> Hans,
>
> How do I do this when in the menu:
When the ncurses GUI is started (ncurses means the ASCII-GUI), then go to and
enter the point "Prepare". This will then install all necessary packages.
> "This opens a ncurses interfac
On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 17:48:41 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 13/04/2017 à 13:40, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> >On 04/12/2017 02:03 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >>Le 12/04/2017 à 20:33, Richard Owlett a écrit :
> >>>On 04/12/2017 12:13 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >
> >[snip]
> - while the
On 04/13/2017 10:48 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 13/04/2017 à 13:40, Richard Owlett a écrit :
On 04/12/2017 02:03 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 12/04/2017 à 20:33, Richard Owlett a écrit :
On 04/12/2017 12:13 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
[snip]
- while the SD card is inserted, in the GRUB me
After m-a I have choosen the prepare option. It gave this output:
Getting source for kernel version: 3.16.0-4-amd64
Kernel headers available in /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/build
Creating symlink...
apt-get install build-essential
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Readin
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 06:44:08PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Describing Fedora as 'community-driven' distribution is a gross
> oversimplification. It's not that I disagree with initial assessment -
> they don't sell you Debian stable like Red Hat does for RHEL.
Red Hat employees do have significant inv
I did apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms
It failed:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libgl1-nvidia-glx
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/7,479 kB of archives.
After this operation, 45.8 MB of additional disk space will be
And the problem is back :-(
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13. Apr 2017 19:38 by aquar...@tutanota.de:
> I did apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-dkms
> It failed:
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> libg
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Le 13/04/2017 à 19:33, Richard Owlett a écrit :
On 04/13/2017 10:48 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
USB drive ? Then (hd1) is not the SD card ? If you boot with no USB
drive plugged in, there is no (hd1), right ?
Correct on all counts. IIUC the SD card slot is connected to a USB hub.
When not the
On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 12:28:58 -0500, David Wright wrote:
> Not being expert with Grub myself, I don't know how it reacts to a
> failure during the search. Just a quick glance at my own cfg shows
For the third time in this thread: GRUB reacts by shrugging its
shoulders and booting whatever the li
Hans wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 13. April 2017, 15:47:07 CEST schrieb Dan Purgert:
> Hi Dan,
>> How are these computers connecting to the mailserver? If it's IMAP, the
>> client and server will resync when the client connects ... so if your
>> oldPC last sync'd a month ago, it'll take it a while to v
Hi there,
On 04/13/2017 09:16 PM, Neoklis Kyriazis wrote:
> Having just completed installation of development tools in my
> first installation of Debian (stretch), I tried to compile the
> sources of some of my own apps but I end up with a shared library
> object instead of an ELF executable! My a
It looks[1] like Squid can do SSL Interception. I imagine it should be
possible, therefore, for squid to perform the HTTPS connection and
either downgrade it to HTTP or to re-encrypt it with a lower grade. YMMV
[1] http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/HTTPS
On 13/04/17 18:01, Greg Wooledge wrote
Dan Ritter:
>
> Eventually we'll have to do the work, but the operations staff here has a
> consensus that if we're going to do the work, we might as well go to a system
> that we feel capable of understanding and trusting, something more like
> daemontools. Nosh is being considered.
>
Hav
Nicolas George:
> The process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and
> adopts all orphan processes.
Wrong. Indeed, it was the systemd people who drove the making it wrong.
* https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/177361/5132
Greg Wooledge writes:
> Apparently all of the terminal-based browsers in wheezy and jessie are
> linked with libgnutls instead of libopenssl, and libgnutls (at least as
> provided by jessie) is completely incapable of forming an SSL connection
> with half of the Web.
>
> Every time someone in IRC
Greg Wooledge:
>
> Suppose you want to start DJB's daemontools from a locally created systemd
> unit/service. Here's a file that will do that:
>
... albeit poorly. If one wants to run daemontools under systemd, svscanboot is
not the way; svscanboot is a thing of the past
http://jdebp.eu./F
Le quartidi 24 germinal, an CCXXV, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard a écrit :
> Nicolas George:
> > The process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and
> > adopts all orphan processes.
> Wrong. Indeed, it was the systemd people who drove the making it wrong.
I have no idea what tha
On Thu 13 Apr 2017 at 20:05:22 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> David is right : you don't really boot from the SD card.
The OP never claimed he was booting from the SD card. He particularly
said he did not install GRUB to the card.
> GRUB is on the HDD. The kernel is on the HDD. Only the root fi
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 6:20 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le quartidi 24 germinal, an CCXXV, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard a écrit :
>> Nicolas George:
>> > The process with PID one is the only immortal process on the system, and
>> > adopts all orphan processes.
>
>> Wrong. Indeed, it was the systemd
Received this on attempted upgrade:
systemctl status exim4.service
● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent
Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
Active: failed (Result: resources) since Fri 2017-04-14 10:24:05
AEST; 4min 44s ago
Docs: man:systemd
Charlie wrote:
> Received this on attempted upgrade:
>
> systemctl status exim4.service
> ● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent
>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
>Active: failed (Result: resources) since Fri 2017-04-14 10:24:05
> AEST; 4min 44
On 14/04/2017, songbird wrote:
> Charlie wrote:
>> Received this on attempted upgrade:
>>
>> systemctl status exim4.service
>> ● exim4.service - LSB: exim Mail Transport Agent
>>Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/exim4; generated; vendor preset: enabled)
>>Active: failed (Result: resources) since
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