Re: debian wifi install

2016-07-09 Thread Curt
On 2016-07-08, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Install was successful this time since I now have rt2870.bin available for > debian to install and use. Unfortunately, the installer did not save the > network configuration it figured out and used to my new system. Has > anyone got a good url describing

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 09 July 2016 02:56:38 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > With cups-client all printer specific options can be listed with > > lpoptions -l > > To select a specific printer add '-p '. See 'man > lpoptions' or http://localhost:631/help . > > Regards, > jvp. Thats informative, but the printers

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016, at 20:53, Felix Miata wrote: > Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-07 20:30 (UTC-0400): > > > If your system has a BIOS and a traditional DOS-style partition table, > > there's no reason not to use LILO, unless you just don't want to. > > Or, if you like to be able to boot wit

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Felix Miata
Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-09 08:58 (UTC-0400): As for features, LILO has all the features that I need. One feature it never acquired AFAIK, which Grub shares with Syslinux, is the ability to edit the kernel cmdline at boot time, before kernel load. With problematic hardware, problem

How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-07-09 Thread MI
In Debian Jessie, systemd ignores the TMPTIME variable in /etc/default/rcS and just blindly deletes everything on every reboot. A bug has been filed about it: "#795269 TMPTIME not honored anymore" ( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=795269 ) But I tried the suggested solution,

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 10:53, Felix Miata wrote: > Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-09 08:58 (UTC-0400): > >> As for features, LILO has all the features that I need. > > One feature it never acquired AFAIK, which Grub shares with Syslinux, is the > ability to edit the kernel cmdline at boot t

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-07-09 Thread Sven Hartge
MI wrote: > In Debian Jessie, systemd ignores the TMPTIME variable in /etc/default/rcS > and just > blindly deletes everything on every reboot. > A bug has been filed about it: "#795269 TMPTIME not honored anymore" > ( https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=795269 ) > But I tried

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Brian
On Sat 09 Jul 2016 at 13:19:08 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 10:53, Felix Miata wrote: > > Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-09 08:58 (UTC-0400): > > > >> As for features, LILO has all the features that I need. > > > > One feature it never acquired AFAIK, which Grub sha

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Erwan David
Le 09/07/2016 à 22:00, Brian a écrit : > > What is the point of a choice? Just offer GRUB; it is the bootloader for > Debian and has many advantages over LILO in todayss Linux ecosystem. > People who have a great desire to use LILO can search it out. > > Unmaintained in Debian, The bit-rot starts

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Felix Miata
Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-09 13:19 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: Stephen Powell composed on 2016-07-09 08:58 (UTC-0400): As for features, LILO has all the features that I need. One feature it never acquired AFAIK, which Grub shares with Syslinux, is the

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Felix Miata
Erwan David composed on 2016-07-09 22:05 (UTC+0200): Brian composed: What is the point of a choice? Just offer GRUB; it is the bootloader for Debian... What is the point of a choice, just use the windows provided with your PC... :-D Linux and debian is just about choice given to the us

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 16:00, Brian wrote: > > All well and good but the installer inexplicably offers a choice between > GRUB and LILO. The installer manual is unhelpful on which to choose. A > newcomer wouldn't have a clue. We do them no service with this retrograde > offering. Get rid of it. >

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 16:33, Felix Miata wrote: > > All that's well and good, but I see nothing there that equates to my > understanding of the meaning of "editing", which includes removal as well as > appending. Oh, I see what you're saying. Well, the Linux kernel generally does it's own ov

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-07-09 Thread MI
/tmp is most likely a tmpfs, a filesystem in RAM which will vanish (and all files and directories in it) as soon as the computer is rebooted. No, it's a dedicated partition on disk. But /tmp being wiped on (re)boot has been the norm and case for UNIX-based operating systems since nearly fore

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-09 Thread Doug
On 07/08/2016 11:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 08 July 2016 21:35:30 Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; I bought, about a month ago, a big Brother MFC, proclaimed that it could do 11x17 prints when single sheet fed from the slot in the rear. Its a Brother MFC-J6920DW. So having a rock

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Brian
On Sat 09 Jul 2016 at 22:05:45 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 09/07/2016 à 22:00, Brian a écrit : > > > > What is the point of a choice? Just offer GRUB; it is the bootloader for > > Debian and has many advantages over LILO in todayss Linux ecosystem. > > People who have a great desire to use LIL

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Brian
On Sat 09 Jul 2016 at 16:41:24 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 16:00, Brian wrote: > > > > All well and good but the installer inexplicably offers a choice between > > GRUB and LILO. The installer manual is unhelpful on which to choose. A > > newcomer wouldn't have a clue.

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 09 July 2016 18:28:27 Doug wrote: > On 07/08/2016 11:45 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 08 July 2016 21:35:30 Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Greetings all; > >> > >> I bought, about a month ago, a big Brother MFC, proclaimed that it > >> could do 11x17 prints when single sheet fed from

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-09 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Gene Heskett wrote on 07/09/16 13:55: > lpoptions -l shows. So, what label A4, A3, ledger etc is actually > 11x17? In the last 20 years, here in the US, paper sizes other than Is Tabloid (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#North_American_paper_sizes ) in the list? Regards, jvp.

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2016-07-09 21:00 (UTC+0100): ...the installer inexplicably offers a choice between GRUB and LILO. The installer manual is unhelpful on which to choose. A newcomer wouldn't have a clue. We do them no service with this retrograde offering. Get rid of it. Probably a Bad idea. Ap

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 09 July 2016 18:30:24 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote on 07/09/16 13:55: > > > > lpoptions -l shows. So, what label A4, A3, ledger etc is actually > > 11x17? In the last 20 years, here in the US, paper sizes other > > than > > Is Tabloid > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-09 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, July 09, 2016 07:14:24 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > I believe it is. Checking, yes. If that is the correct size, and its > truly borderless when selected as "tabloid(borderless)", if the paper > guidance can be improved, that would be ideal as when I trimmed it up > and put it on a big she

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, Jul 9, 2016, at 18:25, Brian wrote: > On Sat 09 Jul 2016 at 16:41:24 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> Long live choice! > > For choice to exist it does not have to be presented as such in the > installer. > Your point is well taken. The installer does not offer choice in everything, j

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 09 July 2016 21:51:52 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, July 09, 2016 07:14:24 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > I believe it is. Checking, yes. If that is the correct size, and its > > truly borderless when selected as "tabloid(borderless)", if the > > paper guidance can be improved,

Linux has come a long way

2016-07-09 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Linux has come a long way! I have been dreading to go wireless on my desktop for a while. A while ago, the process was like this - grab drivers from manufacters website, custom compile kernels, read documentation on how to connect to a password encrypted network. If something does not work, search

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-09 Thread Joel Roth
Stephen Powell wrote: > As far as LILO being unmaintained is concerned, I wouldn't be too concerned > about that. I've been thinking about offering to maintain it myself. I > haven't > heard from Joachim lately. Maybe I'll drop him another line. I think LILO is an important part of Linux infra