Re: OSS Versus ALSA Modules

2016-05-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
If it doesn't, modprobe is reading blacklist files after whitelist files and this is for you and I suspect many other users highly undesireable and counterintuitive behavior. Better to read and act on blacklist entries first then do those in whitelist and override what's necessary. This princi

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 11:01:39 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:56:01AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 May 2016 07:31:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > > * Gilles Mocellin [2016-05-17 > > > > 19:09 > >

Re: What can AppArmor do?

2016-05-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 09:23:34AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/apparmor is uninformative. It says: "This provides the system initialization scripts needed to use the AppArmor Mandatory Access Control system, including the AppArmor Parser which is required to

proper way to handle NFS for laptop ?

2016-05-18 Thread briand
The obvious issues: 1 after sleeping the NFS connection is lost and takes a very long time to re-establish. I was under the impression that systemd or -whatever-handles-sleeping- would unmount/remount the filesystem to avoid this , but apparently that's not the case. Potentially I can fix th

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:56:01AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 18 May 2016 07:31:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Gilles Mocellin [2016-05-17 19:09 +0200]: > > Le 17/05/2016 à 14:34, Mimiko a écrit : > > > On 17.05.2016 15:16, Eli

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 16:14:36 Gene Heskett wrote: > auto lo eth0 eth1 > > Its there in the complete interfaces file I just posted, and you snipped. Gene - we have, I think, established that your set-up doesn't work the way predicted. The one thing that looks very different to me is the stick

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:56:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 18 May 2016 07:31:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > * Gilles Mocellin [2016-05-17 19:09 > +0200]: > > > > Le 17/05/2016 à 14:34, Mimiko a écrit : > > > > > On 17.05

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 11:37:59 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 18 May 2016 16:14:36 Gene Heskett wrote: > > auto lo eth0 eth1 > > > > Its there in the complete interfaces file I just posted, and you > > snipped. > > Gene - we have, I think, established that your set-up doesn't work the > way p

Re: how to make systemd execute init.d script status statements?

2016-05-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2016-05-16 21:36 +0300, Juha Heinanen wrote: > When I upgraded one of my wheezy hosts to jessie, I noticed that > > /etc/init.d/ status > > command stopped working. > > Looks like systemd does not execute the statements in status) case of > the init script at all, but just checks if the daemon

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 16:54:49 Gene Heskett wrote: > "auto lo eth0" auto lo and auto eth0 now?? Lisi It may not solve anything, but when rationality seems to fail one has to resort to magic, and just get the incantation right Lisi

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 09:33:28 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 18 May 2016 05:30:34 Ron Leach wrote: > [...Snip...] > > I'd be interested in how other users organise this but, essentially, > > I'd be grateful for any advice on where to find the physical device to > > use in a mount co

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:44:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:56:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > auto lo eth0 eth1 > > Agree with Lisi, I've never seen this (though I'm not claiming it's > either wrong or harmful). It's an ok line. From interfaces(5): Lines beg

bluetooth name

2016-05-18 Thread Kamil Jońca
For a long time bluetooth devices were named as something like %h-%d I was quite happy with this. But lastly my notebook was discovered as ChromeLinux_. Does anybody know: what happened? how can I restore previous behaviour? Googling (for chromeLinux bluetooth) shows me only https://www.linu

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:50:23 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:22:29AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Tue 17 May 2016 at 11:26:28 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] What was snipped is "I do not see that as a disadvantage, udev can do that much unwanted damage

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread David Wright
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 17:39:45 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:44:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:56:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > auto lo eth0 eth1 > > > > Agree with Lisi, I've never seen this (though I'm not claiming it's > > either

Grub is being so bad this install

2016-05-18 Thread Ralph Sanchez
I finally got grub two to boot up, my install is done, I boot up woohoo I got my menu, put in my encryption pass, now grub is asking me for a 'hostname login' which j never set anything up for so now what. My user and root don't work, it wants a name then a pass. How is this even possible for it to

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Ron Leach
First, may I, at the top of the post and before replying to Brian, acknowledge the plethora of information in all the thread replies. I really would like to express my thanks to so many users who took the time to help explain and suggest. On 18/05/2016 17:25, Brian wrote: On Wed 18 May 2016

Re: Grub won't install

2016-05-18 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 05/17/2016 09:13 PM, J Mo wrote: lilo is ultra-ancient. I don't even know if it works with modern kernels. Lilo definitely still works with current kernels. I started out using lilo 17 or 18 years ago and I am still using it now under Jessie and kernel vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64.

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Jonas Hedman
On 16-05-18 19:10:08, Ron Leach wrote: > I didn't recognise pmount, mentioned early in the thread, and tried man > pmount to check what it would do and how to use it, but nothing came up. > So, from an earlier post in the thread, I used dmesg | tail, and then mount > at a mount point under /mnt. I

Re: Plug and Pray; My Life with Linux Sound

2016-05-18 Thread deloptes
Martin McCormick wrote: > deloptes writes: >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf >> >> ## ALSA portion >> alias char-major-116 snd >> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel >> alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio > > Thank you. While researching what these lines do, I ran > across what is most likely the true na

Re: Need Urgently solution or advice - start to give up on Debian

2016-05-18 Thread deloptes
Ralph Sanchez wrote: > His problem is that he gets a garbled or corrupted screen instead of any > kind of startup unless he boots into some kind of safe mode or opens the > grub command prompt, that's what I've surmised. I had that happen my first > install, and it just happened to be bad luck and

Re: Plug and Pray; My Life with Linux Sound

2016-05-18 Thread Martin McCormick
deloptes writes: . . . Much good information. Many thanks. > use an oss wrapper - there is how to on the alsa wiki. I certainly will look in to that as there are still many things going on that shouldn't be but things are better at least on the wheezy system. For the first time since July 15 of

Re: swap on second hard drive

2016-05-18 Thread deloptes
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 17/05/16 18:02, Felix Miata wrote: >> Peter Hillier-Brook composed on 2016-05-17 16:41 (UTC+0100): >> >>> I recently re-formatted and re-partitioned a second disk that I use for >>> experimenting with various distributions. A consequence is that previous >>> UUIDs

Re: OSS Versus ALSA Modules

2016-05-18 Thread Martin McCormick
Michael Lange writes: > Hi, > I never had any trouble at all with the OSS compatibility modules. > Not sure where this statement comes from, if it is an old source, maybe > they meant the old, true OSS modules (which have been removed from the > linux kernel quite some time ago, though), where thi

Re: swap on second hard drive

2016-05-18 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 18/05/16 22:02, deloptes wrote: > Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > >> On 17/05/16 18:02, Felix Miata wrote: >>> Peter Hillier-Brook composed on 2016-05-17 16:41 (UTC+0100): >>> I recently re-formatted and re-partitioned a second disk that I use for experimenting with various distributions

Got that network problem solved, now a new one

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I am, because my web page serves as a backup site for the os and some tools for use with the now 30 year old trs-80 color computers, have a script IP can run that pulls fresh copies of the sources for this code using hg, then builds fresh copies and makes it all available on my w

kvm amd nested

2016-05-18 Thread Paras pradhan
On a Jessie host I can see nested kvm is set --- cat /sys/module/kvm_amd/parameters/nested 1 -- On the virtual machines I can see 'svm' but not seeing /sys/module/kvm_amd . When I try to create a VM, I get Warning : KVM is not available. KVM kernel modules ar

Re: OSS Versus ALSA Modules

2016-05-18 Thread Michael Lange
On Wed, 18 May 2016 16:17:43 -0500 "Martin McCormick" wrote: (...) > If I reboot, however, Card 1 which is the usb card > automatically returns as it should but there is no Card 0 until I > manually run > > modprobe snd-cs4236 > > at which time it and all necessary modules for it come bac

Re: Got that network problem solved, now a new one

2016-05-18 Thread Logan Erbst
This seems to me that it may be a bug in the version of bash that is running on the system, but I could be very wrong. On 5/18/2016 4:42 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I am, because my web page serves as a backup site for the os and some > tools for use with the now 30 year old trs-

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 12:32:24 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 18 May 2016 at 17:39:45 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:44:40 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > > On Wed 18 May 2016 at 10:56:01 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > auto lo eth0 eth1 > > > > > > Agre

Re: Grub won't install

2016-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 19:57:00 Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 05/17/2016 09:13 PM, J Mo wrote: > > lilo is ultra-ancient. I don't even know if it works with modern kernels. > > Lilo definitely still works with current kernels. I started out using > lilo 17 or 18 years ago and I am still using it now

Re: Grub won't install

2016-05-18 Thread Felix Miata
Lisi Reisz composed on 2016-05-18 23:40 (UTC+0100): Can one still use grub-legacy with modern kernels? It's what I'm using for launching all my Debians, Fedoras, openSUSEs, Mageias and more. Distros that no longer offer grub-legacy get installed here sans bootloader and get booted from an "a

Re: Got that network problem solved, now a new one

2016-05-18 Thread John L. Ries
I guess my first question would be why the script below has anything to do with /opt. I don't see a change of directory to anything under that directory and I would assume this is running in some directory you own. System directory permissions are sometimes changed during software updates; an

Re: Got that network problem solved, now a new one

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 17:42:59 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I am, because my web page serves as a backup site for the os and some > tools for use with the now 30 year old trs-80 color computers, have a > script IP can run that pulls fresh copies of the sources for this code > using

Re: OSS Versus ALSA Modules

2016-05-18 Thread Martin McCormick
Michael Lange writes: > Adding snd-cs4236 to /etc/modules doesn't help? Ha!! I totally forgot to look at that file. It's creation date is in May of 2009 when I upgraded the system to whatever the version of Linux was at that time. I am not sure it was even squeeze but I had simply re-installed Li

how to fix / partition (cylinder problem start) on ssd

2016-05-18 Thread e Lpe
Hi, fdisk -l report a warning message of the begining of the partition doesn't start on a physical cylinder on my ssd. Ignore ? Fix ? It's my / partition perahps if i resize it it'll be goog. Some advise ? If I can avoid too my make a new partition and copying back all my system on it, I prefer

Re: Got that network problem solved, now a new one

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 19:09:02 John L. Ries wrote: > I guess my first question would be why the script below has anything > to do with /opt. I don't see a change of directory to anything under > that directory and I would assume this is running in some directory > you own. Nope, this script,

Re: how to fix / partition (cylinder problem start) on ssd

2016-05-18 Thread Sven Hartge
e Lpe wrote: > fdisk -l report a warning message of the begining of the partition doesn't > start on a physical cylinder on my ssd. > Ignore ? Fix ? Ignore, most likely. > It's my / partition perahps if i resize it it'll be goog. > Some advise ? Show the output of "fdisk -u -l /dev/sdX" from

Re: Got that network problem solved, now a new one

2016-05-18 Thread John L. Ries
You should probably check the permissions on /opt and make sure they haven’t changed and that you still have permission to operate on the files in question. You may not have changed anything, but things may have changed nevertheless, for whatever reason. --| John L. Rie

Re: Got that network problem solved, now a new one

2016-05-18 Thread David Wright
I feel I've been warned off commenting here in case I come across as a pontificating know-it-all who's insisting that you do everything in "My Way". Well, if there are any opinions here about how things *should* be done, they're nothing to do with me, but just taken from the FHS (2015-03-19). It us

Re: proper way to handle NFS for laptop ?

2016-05-18 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
autofs will handle both issues just fine. 1. autofs disconnects a mount if there hasn't been any activity for a certain amount of time (default 5 minutes). 2. see above A distributed filesystem might create even more problems, as you'll have to re-sync with the other nodes on reconnect, which -- i

Re: swap on second hard drive

2016-05-18 Thread deloptes
Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: > On 18/05/16 22:02, deloptes wrote: >> Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: >> >>> On 17/05/16 18:02, Felix Miata wrote: Peter Hillier-Brook composed on 2016-05-17 16:41 (UTC+0100): > I recently re-formatted and re-partitioned a second disk that I use > for exp

Re: RANT: Virtual filesystems are getting out of control

2016-05-18 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
Den 18. mai 2016 06:51, skrev David Wright: > $ mount -t ext3 ; mount -t ext4 Or, to get only real devices listed: mount | grep '^/' . Frees you from knowing fstype. > > $ man bash for info on aliases and shell functions. > > Cheers, > David. > > alias drives="mount | grep '^/'"

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:22:29AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Tue 17 May 2016 at 11:26:28 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: [...] > You don't see any disadvantage to removing the "hotplug stuff". > Hooray, let's go back to PCs as static boxes. Shut i

Re: How to change the link to the browser in kmail?

2016-05-18 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Tuesday 17 May 2016 19:55:26 Hans wrote: > Hello all, > > is there a way to change the browser, which is called, when a html link is > clicked within a mail? This behavior is configured within KDE. You can change this by launching "System Settings". Then click on "Applications" , there you ca

Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Ron Leach
List, good morning, One aspect of Debian I've never managed to 'get', is how to 'see' any temporarily plugged-in USB storage device, from the command line or in mc. The machines in question are using Wheezy. I often use a machine (with only cli) to download overnight - this works well. But

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Felix Miata
Ron Leach composed on 2016-05-18 10:30 (UTC+0100): One aspect of Debian I've never managed to 'get', is how to 'see' any temporarily plugged-in USB storage device, from the command line or in mc. The machines in question are using Wheezy. I often use a machine (with only cli) to download ove

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:30:34AM +0100, Ron Leach wrote: > List, good morning, > > One aspect of Debian I've never managed to 'get', is how to 'see' > any temporarily plugged-in USB storage device [...] I do a 'dmesg | tail' shortly after having in

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Jonas Hedman
On 16-05-18 10:30:34, Ron Leach wrote: > List, good morning, > > One aspect of Debian I've never managed to 'get', is how to 'see' any > temporarily plugged-in USB storage device, from the command line or in mc. > The machines in question are using Wheezy. > > I often use a machine (with only cli

Re: Grub won't install

2016-05-18 Thread e Lpe
I got the problem when installing Jessie on a computer with two hard drives. I want to install grub on the mbr of the second hard drive but the installer says yes and do not install it. But it can be easely fix by Boot Repair. 2016-05-18 0:13 GMT-04:00 J Mo : > > lilo is ultra-ancient. I don't e

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 10:30:34 Ron Leach wrote: > I assume that I have to mount the USB storage, but where should I find > the reference for the physical device to mount? Best of all would be > to make this process 'automatic', if I could. IIRC, you can use udisks-glue on wheezy. On Jessie

Re: swap on second hard drive

2016-05-18 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 17/05/16 18:02, Felix Miata wrote: > Peter Hillier-Brook composed on 2016-05-17 16:41 (UTC+0100): > >> I recently re-formatted and re-partitioned a second disk that I use for >> experimenting with various distributions. A consequence is that previous >> UUIDs have disappeared into the bit bucke

Re: RANT: Virtual filesystems are getting out of control

2016-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 07:52:03 Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > Den 18. mai 2016 06:51, skrev David Wright: > > $ mount -t ext3 ; mount -t ext4 > > Or, to get only real devices listed: mount | grep '^/' . > Frees you from knowing fstype. > > > $ man bash for info on aliases and shell functions. > > >

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Ron Leach
On 18/05/2016 10:40, Felix Miata wrote: Ron Leach composed on 2016-05-18 10:30 (UTC+0100): I'd be grateful for any advice on where to find the physical device to use in a mount command. # lsscsi ... [9:0:0:0] disk FLASH Drive SM_USB20 1100 /dev/sdg... # blkid /dev/sdg # mount -t auto (or the

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 12:14:00 Ron Leach wrote: > On 18/05/2016 10:40, Felix Miata wrote: > > Ron Leach composed on 2016-05-18 10:30 (UTC+0100): > >> I'd be grateful for any advice on where to find the physical device to > >> use in a mount command. > > > > # lsscsi > > ... > > [9:0:0:0] disk FL

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Gilles Mocellin [2016-05-17 19:09 +0200]: > > Le 17/05/2016 à 14:34, Mimiko a écrit : > > > On 17.05.2016 15:16, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > > Ask your search engine: "init.d/networking restart is deprecated" > > > > > > This was th

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 12:14:00 +0100, Ron Leach wrote: > On 18/05/2016 10:40, Felix Miata wrote: > >Ron Leach composed on 2016-05-18 10:30 (UTC+0100): > >>I'd be grateful for any advice on where to find the physical device to > >>use in a mount command. > > > ># lsscsi > >... > >[9:0:0:0] disk FLA

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Brian
On Wed 18 May 2016 at 12:43:03 +0100, Brian wrote: > > You have to install lsscsi to use it. However, what is on every Debian > system is the utils-linux package and it has lsblk. util-linux.

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
lsusb -v may help. On Wed, 18 May 2016, Ron Leach wrote: Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 05:30:34 From: Ron Leach To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc Resent-Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 09:31:05 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.or

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Martin McCormick
Some of what we are explaining has to do with how one sets up their /etc/fstab configuration but usb drives generate a predictable set of messages in /var/log/syslog. The particular details change based upon what has already been installed in one's file system, but if things are working rig

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Felix Miata
Ron Leach composed on 2016-05-18 12:14 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata wrote: Ron Leach composed on 2016-05-18 10:30 (UTC+0100): I'd be grateful for any advice on where to find the physical device to use in a mount command. # lsscsi ... [9:0:0:0] disk FLASH Drive SM_USB20 1100 /dev/sdg... #

OSS Versus ALSA Modules

2016-05-18 Thread Martin McCormick
I had a thread going on this list with the subject of "Plug and Pray; my Life with Linux Sound." Thanks to several good answers, I am on the right track to fixing a problem but there is, of course, one more question. One must not have both OSS sound modules and ALSA sound modules a

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 05:30:34 Ron Leach wrote: > List, good morning, > > One aspect of Debian I've never managed to 'get', is how to 'see' any > temporarily plugged-in USB storage device, from the command line or in > mc. The machines in question are using Wheezy. > > I often use a machine (w

Re: Something never understood: see USB storage in CLI & mc

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 05:40:06 Felix Miata wrote: > Ron Leach composed on 2016-05-18 10:30 (UTC+0100): > > One aspect of Debian I've never managed to 'get', is how to 'see' > > any temporarily plugged-in USB storage device, from the command line > > or in mc. The machines in question are using

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Lisi Reisz [2016-05-18 12:31 +0100]: > On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: [...] > > /etc/init.d/networking stop does ifdown -a > > /etc/init.d/networking start does ifup -a > > But > # ifdown -a; ifup -a > is much more elegant!! I would use '&&' in favour of ';' as ';'

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 14:42:27 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Lisi Reisz [2016-05-18 12:31 +0100]: > > On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > [...] > > > > /etc/init.d/networking stop does ifdown -a > > > /etc/init.d/networking start does ifup -a > > > > But > > # ifdown -

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 03:42:27PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * Lisi Reisz [2016-05-18 12:31 +0100]: > > > On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > [...] > > > /etc/init.d/networking stop does ifdown -a > > > /etc/init.d/ne

Re: Libreoffice mail merge not working

2016-05-18 Thread Paolo Cavallini
Il 18/05/2016 00:58, David Wright ha scritto: > I have no idea of exactly what you do during your mailmerge, but I > think what Rodary was suggesting might have been a script-driven > combination of database (like postgresql) and text processor > (like TeX/LaTeX) finished off with pdftk, to replac

What can AppArmor do?

2016-05-18 Thread Richard Owlett
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/apparmor is uninformative. It says: "This provides the system initialization scripts needed to use the AppArmor Mandatory Access Control system, including the AppArmor Parser which is required to convert AppArmor text profiles into machine-readable policies t

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 10:56:01AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 18 May 2016 07:31:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > * Gilles Mocellin [2016-05-17 19:09 > +0200]: > > > > Le 17/05/

Re: OSS Versus ALSA Modules

2016-05-18 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 18 May 2016 07:55:54 -0500 "Martin McCormick" wrote: (...) > One must not have both OSS sound modules and ALSA sound > modules active when installing sound cards. (...) > By the way, having both OSS and ALSA modules cause lots of > weirdness that makes no sense at all. I never

Re: /etc/init.d/networking does not start everything in /etc/network/interfaces

2016-05-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 May 2016 07:31:34 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 17 May 2016 18:29:36 Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > * Gilles Mocellin [2016-05-17 19:09 +0200]: > > > Le 17/05/2016 à 14:34, Mimiko a écrit : > > > > On 17.05.2016 15:16, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > > > Ask your search engine: "