Re: Some text meaning is not easy to understand.

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 07:36:24PM -0500, Doug wrote: > > On 04/21/2016 06:20 PM, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I am doing now a web pagere re-write into Korean. I get some trouble. Help > >me to understand, please. > > > >"If you send m

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 07:55:59AM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 08:57:51 +0300 > Mimiko wrote: > > Hello Mimiko, > > >I've never seen my own posts nor in this list, nor in other lists > > Like I said to Michael; gmail. > > I fin

Re: Some text meaning is not easy to understand.

2016-04-22 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Normally, when responding to a mail in a mailing list, the > response goes only to the list. When responding to a message from a sender who is new to me, i look into the mail headers of the original post. List subscribers have X-Spam-Status: [...] LDOSUBSCRIBER [.

Re: Some text meaning is not easy to understand.

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:01:38AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Normally, when responding to a mail in a mailing list, the > > response goes only to the list. > > When responding to a message from a sender who is

Re: My script almost works but spams the terminal its launched from if useing dash.

2016-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 April 2016 00:19:11 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 17/04/2016 3:11 AM, Aero Maxx wrote: > >> bin/mailwatcher > /dev/null 2>&1 & > > Perhaps better still... > bin/mailwatcher >& /dev/null & > > Without specifying STDOUT or STDERR you get both. > > ;-) > > AndrewM I'll try that come ne

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. Normally we do get a return copy of our posts I have participated in several t

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 April 2016 01:57:51 Mimiko wrote: > On 22.04.2016 07:49, Michael Milliman wrote: > > On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: > >> Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. > >> Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. > >> Normally we do get

Did your post to debian-user make it?

2016-04-22 Thread Richard Owlett
For recent posts go to https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/recent . For posts of last few decades see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ . Links to useful (even fascinating) info at https://lists.debian.org/ . Enjoy.

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: > >> Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. > >> Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thanks for your > >> reply. Normally

Re: Re: My script almost works but spams the terminal its launched from if useing dash.

2016-04-22 Thread Clive Standbridge
> > Perhaps better still... > > bin/mailwatcher >& /dev/null & > > > I hadn't thought about that particular incantation. It is one of the > strengths of bash (and some other shells) that there are several > different incantations that achieve similar or same results. You get > to speak the diale

Re: chroot setup problem

2016-04-22 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 07:17:14PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I attempt to chroot from /dev/sdb on /dev/sda. > > # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/debinst > > I verify it is mounted and then do: > > # LANG=C.UTF8 /usr/sbin/chroot /mnt/debinst /bin/bash > /usr/sbin/chroot: failed to run command `/b

Re: chroot setup problem

2016-04-22 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:04:41AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 at 08:18, Haines Brown wrote: > > I attempt to chroot from /dev/sdb on /dev/sda. > >   # mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/debinst > > I verify it is mounted and then do: > >   # LANG=C.UTF8 /usr/sbin/ch

Re: chroot setup problem

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 06:57:17AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:04:41AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > > On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 at 08:18, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > I attempt to chroot from /dev/sdb on /dev/sda. > >

Re: My script almost works but spams the terminal its launched from if useing dash.

2016-04-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 14:19:11 (+1000), Andrew McGlashan wrote: > On 17/04/2016 3:11 AM, Aero Maxx wrote: > >> bin/mailwatcher > /dev/null 2>&1 & > > Perhaps better still... > bin/mailwatcher >& /dev/null & ... or even bin/mailwatcher &> /dev/null & which is generally safer. > Without specif

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 4/22/2016 4:11 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: On 04/21/2016 09:18 PM, Gary Roach wrote: Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the problem has been corrected. Thank

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 07:25:25AM -0400, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: > > On 04/22/2016 02:55 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > >On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 08:57:51 +0300 > >Mimiko wrote: > > > >Hello Mimiko, > > > >>I've never seen my own posts nor in this list, nor i

Re: Some text meaning is not easy to understand.

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:32:50PM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희) wrote: [...] > Now i just got it, > thanks thanks thanks > for Doug, Charlie, tomas and Tomas! Well, thank *you* for translating things into Korean! regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIG

Re: chroot setup problem

2016-04-22 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 4/22/16, Haines Brown wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:04:41AM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > >> Does /mnt/debinst/bin/bash exist? >> >> It's looking for /bin/bash in the chrooted environment and not finding >> it. > > I fixed this and: > > $ ls -la /mnt/debinst/bin > ... > -rwxr-xr-x

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-04-22 at 07:48, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 07:25:25AM -0400, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: > >> On 04/22/2016 02:55 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> I find it surprising, to say the least, that, even after all this >>> time, some people still do not know that gmail does not r

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Nicolas George
Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > This means that the mailing-list software _could_ technically work > around this behavior by modifying the Message-ID of the received message > before it sends that message out to list members. > > That strikes me as a dreadful idea from a

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:12:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: [...] > In this case, what appears to happen is that Gmail assumes that > Message-ID is unique, and consequently that it only needs to keep one > copy of a message with any given Message-I

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 08:26:33AM -0400, Harris Paltrowitz wrote: [...] > Okay, if this is some convoluted thing that Gmail does, then sure, I > couldn't see complicating the Debian server just to overcome this. > However, I think it would be nice i

open-iscsi & multipath-tools

2016-04-22 Thread Cédric Bassaget
Hello, I'm facing a problem with multipath & iscsi on debian 8.4 (up to date). I've installed multipath-tools and open-iscsi. iscsi works fine, and if I run systemctl restart multipath-tools, multipath -ll show the multipath volume. Everything is ok. After a reboot, iscsi targets are OK, but mult

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-04-22 at 08:20, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > >> This means that the mailing-list software _could_ technically work >> around this behavior by modifying the Message-ID of the received >> message before it sends that message out to list

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Mimiko
On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: It's because you use gmail and that has a 'feature' which you can't turn off that deliberately hides your own messages. On 22.04.2016 09:55, Brad Rogers wrote: > Like I said to Michael; gmail. > > I find it surprising, to say the least, that, even after all this

Re: open-iscsi & multipath-tools

2016-04-22 Thread Christian Seiler
Package: open-iscsi Version: 2.0.873+git0.3b4b4500-8+deb8u1 Severity: normal Owner: ! Tags: jessie moreinfo Hi there, FYI: I'm co-maintainer of open-iscsi in Debian, but not multipath-tools. CC'ing the bugtracker, assigning to open-iscsi for now, will reassign to multipath-tools later if necessa

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Nicolas George
Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > If the list software did this modification for _all_ messages, not just > ones from Gmail addresses, I don't see how it would break threading It breaks it for the *senders*: they would have the message in their "sent" archive with the mess

Re: chroot setup problem

2016-04-22 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:36:36AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > # LANG=C.UTF8 /usr/sbin/chroot /mnt/debinst /bin/bash > > /usr/sbin/chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or > > directory > > > > /usr/bin/chroot exists. So does /mnt/debinst. So does /bin/bash. >

Re: chroot setup problem

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 09:36:57AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:36:36AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > > > # LANG=C.UTF8 /usr/sbin/chroot /mnt/debinst /bin/bash > > > /usr/sbin/chroot: failed to run command `/bin/ba

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-04-22 at 09:20, Nicolas George wrote: > Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : >> If the list software did this modification for _all_ messages, not >> just ones from Gmail addresses, I don't see how it would break >> threading > > It breaks it for the *senders*: they wo

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Nicolas George
Le quartidi 4 floréal, an CCXXIV, The Wanderer a écrit : > I'm not sure this would actually manifest the way you're describing it - > but I'm not positive it wouldn't, either, and I don't care to invest the > brainpower in working it out for certain right now. Actually, it is even worse than I sug

Re: open-iscsi & multipath-tools

2016-04-22 Thread BASSAGET Cédric
Hello Christian, I'm unable to reproduce for about 1 hour... Now, everyhting works fine after a reboot, but... the only thing I've done is to remove the vg / pv i created on multipath device... weird. Regards, Cédric 2016-04-22 15:17 GMT+02:00 Christian Seiler : > Package: open-iscsi > Version:

Re: open-iscsi & multipath-tools

2016-04-22 Thread Christian Seiler
Hello, (CC'ing the bug report I created, dropping debian-user in reply-to.) Am 2016-04-22 16:10, schrieb BASSAGET Cédric: I'm unable to reproduce for about 1 hour... Now, everyhting works fine after a reboot, but... the only thing I've done is to remove the vg / pv i created on multipath device

Stop Hard Drive fromn Thrashing

2016-04-22 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have installed Debian v-8.4.0. My hard drive keeps running and I would like to know what is happening. Google does not seem to be too friendly. Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Speech-To-Text?

2016-04-22 Thread Kent West
I have an Android phone recording of a meeting that I'd like to transcribe to text, and was hoping there was an automagic way to convert most of it. My google-fu seems to be failing me, or else that info simply isn't out there. The closest I've found is the use of a tool called pocketsphinx

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 05:11:07 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 04:43:56 Richard Owlett wrote: > > On 4/21/2016 11:49 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > > > I have participated in several threads on this list and have > > > asked a few questions on the list. I never see my own pos

Re: Stop Hard Drive fromn Thrashing

2016-04-22 Thread Kent West
On 04/22/2016 10:25 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have installed Debian v-8.4.0. My hard drive keeps running and I would like to know what is happening. Google does not seem to be too friendly. Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Try shutting

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 22 April 2016 14:02:11 Mimiko wrote: > I don't want to use my ISP's mail account. Its limited. It can be > blocked. I can switch to another ISP. So you switch your SMTP sever. What is the problem??? Lisi

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 22 April 2016 13:56:49 The Wanderer wrote: > Interesting. Do you have any evidence for the idea that it uses more > than just Message-ID? I can't prove that it doesn't, but I've never seen > anything that I recall to indicate that it does. It doesn't use MORE than the message ID. It doe

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 22 April 2016 14:20:18 Nicolas George wrote: > I suspect the misfeature belongs in gmail's web interface, > actually, and the mails are really present in the archive and accessible > through IMAP. Possibly. I avoid all I care about (I use threading) by using an email client, POP3 and

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-04-22 at 12:41, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 13:56:49 The Wanderer wrote: >> Interesting. Do you have any evidence for the idea that it uses >> more than just Message-ID? I can't prove that it doesn't, but I've >> never seen anything that I recall to indicate that it does. >

Re: Stop Hard Drive fromn Thrashing

2016-04-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 11:25:15 (-0400), Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have installed Debian v-8.4.0. > > My hard drive keeps running and I would like to know what is > happening. Google does not seem to be too friendly. Not a lot to go on there. (Turn off the computer, says the cynic.) What were

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 22 April 2016 18:04:36 The Wanderer wrote: > I'm talking about what it uses > for detecting duplicates so it can discard them That is worth my while to investigate. I am a bit pushed at the moment, but will report back. Lisi

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread John Hasler
David writes: > I only use my ISP sending from home, and never for receiving mail. I pay my ISP to connect me to the Net. They do a pretty good job of that. I pay Newsguy to handle email for me. They do an excellent job. I pay Gandi to host my Web sites. They do an excellent job. Do you see a

lvm thin provisioning over provisioning

2016-04-22 Thread Bhasker C V
Hi, I am starting with investigating about the lvm thin provisioning (apologies for html mail) I have done the following 1.Create a PV vdb252:16 0 10G 0 disk ├─vdb1 252:17 0 100M 0 part └─vdb2 252:18 0 9.9G 0 part root@vmm-deb:~# pvcreate /dev/vdb1 Physical volume "/dev/vdb

Re: Stop Hard Drive fromn Thrashing

2016-04-22 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 11:25:15AM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > I have installed Debian v-8.4.0. > > My hard drive keeps running and I would like to know what is > happening. Google does not seem to be too friendly. > > Any pointers in the righ

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Apr 2016 at 19:18:36 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > Actually this time it worked for the first time in a month. Hopefully the > problem has been corrected. Thanks for your reply. Normally we do get a > return copy of our posts Your last posts to the list were on or about the 9th and 18th Ap

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Brian
On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 18:29:11 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2016 18:04:36 The Wanderer wrote: > > I'm talking about what it uses > > for detecting duplicates so it can discard them > > That is worth my while to investigate. I am a bit pushed at the moment, but > will report bac

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Gary Roach
OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no rejection notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not found any information that would exclude attachments. Since I have not found a way to embed a sc

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Joe
On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 12:24:26 -0700 Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no > rejection notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not found > any information that would ex

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Brian
On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 12:24:26 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an You mean that all those posts from months ago are now available to you? > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no rejection > notice. I have loo

canberra-gtk-module not loaded?

2016-04-22 Thread Blair, Charles E III
I have just installed the stable jessie using netinst on a laptop. When I run certain programs, I am getting a message "canberra-gtk-module not loaded." How do I fix this? How serious is it?

Re: canberra-gtk-module not loaded?

2016-04-22 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 19:35 +, Blair, Charles E III wrote: >    I have just installed the stable jessie using netinst on a > laptop.  When I run certain programs, I am getting a message > "canberra-gtk-module not loaded."  How do I fix this?   How serious > is it? GTK+ uses canberra to play ev

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 12:24:26 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote: > OK. All of a sudden my original posts are showing up but if I add an > attachment the post seems to drop into a black hole. No post, no > rejection notice. I have looked at the sites rules and have not > found any information that would ex

Re: Stop Hard Drive fromn Thrashing

2016-04-22 Thread Michael Jones
On 22/04/16 16:25, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > My hard drive keeps running and I would like to know what is happening. > Google does not seem to be too friendly. > > Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated. sudo apt-get install iotop sudo iotop -o (will show applications do

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Gary Roach
On 04/22/2016 06:02 AM, Mimiko wrote: On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: It's because you use gmail and that has a 'feature' which you can't turn off that deliberately hides your own messages. On 22.04.2016 09:55, Brad Rogers wrote: > Like I said to Michael; gmail. > > I find it surprising, to s

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-04-22 at 15:20, Brian wrote: > On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 18:29:11 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Friday 22 April 2016 18:04:36 The Wanderer wrote: >>> I'm talking about what it uses for detecting duplicates so it can >>> discard them >> >> That is worth my while to investigate. I am a bit

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 22 April 2016 20:20:50 Brian wrote: > It's a waste of time. Even if you conclusively demonstrated the offending > header was Message-Id: (and it almost certainly is a major player) what > would you do? Better is to avoid providers who think it fine to mess with > your mail. People wouldn'

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread David Wright
On Fri 22 Apr 2016 at 15:22:11 (-0700), Gary Roach wrote: > On 04/22/2016 06:02 AM, Mimiko wrote: > >On 22.04.2016 09:46, Tixy wrote: > >>It's because you use gmail and that has a 'feature' which you can't turn > >>off that deliberately hides your own messages. > > > >On 22.04.2016 09:55, Brad Roge

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Felix Miata
Gary Roach composed on 2016-04-22 12:24 (UTC-0700): Gary Roach wrote: For the last several weeks my posts to this site have not been showing up. I am not sure whether they are getting through or not. Someone respond to the message just to show me that my postings are getting through. https

Re: canberra-gtk-module not loaded?

2016-04-22 Thread Alan McConnell
- Original Message - From: "Sven Arvidsson" To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 4:24:51 PM Subject: Re: canberra-gtk-module not loaded? On Fri, 2016-04-22 at 19:35 +, Blair, Charles E III wrote: >    I have just installed the stable jessie using netinst on

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 22/04/2016 11:02 PM, Mimiko wrote: > On 22.04.2016 11:59, Gene Heskett wrote: >> What you Mimiko, should be doing is using your own ISP's mail server, >> which on this mailing list I am, by setting up your own email agent. >> There are quite a few available for linux. > > I don't want to use m

Re: Posts don't show on list

2016-04-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 23/04/2016 3:39 AM, John Hasler wrote: > David writes: >> I only use my ISP sending from home, and never for receiving mail. > > I pay my ISP to connect me to the Net. They do a pretty good job of > that. I pay Newsguy to handle email for me. They do an excellent job. > I pay Gandi to host

TCP/IP over Bluetooth

2016-04-22 Thread peter
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth , Bluetooth was "... originally conceived as a wireless alternative to RS-232 data cables." Therefore TCP/IP inside PPP on a Bluetooth connection is hypthetically possible. Has anyone tried it with a debian system on one end at least? Thanks

Re: TCP/IP over Bluetooth

2016-04-22 Thread shawn wilson
On Apr 23, 2016 00:09, wrote: > > According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth , > Bluetooth was "... originally conceived as a wireless alternative > to RS-232 data cables." Therefore TCP/IP inside PPP on a > Bluetooth connection is hypthetically possible. > > Has anyone tried it with a

Re: TCP/IP over Bluetooth

2016-04-22 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 April 2016 00:37:42 shawn wilson wrote: > On Apr 23, 2016 00:09, wrote: > > According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth , > > Bluetooth was "... originally conceived as a wireless alternative > > to RS-232 data cables." Therefore TCP/IP inside PPP on a > > Bluetooth conne

Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup)

2016-04-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 21/04/2016 5:44 AM, John L. Ries wrote: >> Thanks! I think we need to share more examples on how to use systemd >> properly. A lot of the criticism stems from the simple fact that people >> just need to learn what the new tools can do for them. > > That would be an indication that systemd is

Re: on-demand mounting of filesystems via Systemd (e.g. /backup)

2016-04-22 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 21/04/2016 7:19 AM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Here is a quick example in an interactive shell: > > +--- > | # umount /boot; ls /boot > | [empty] > | # unshare -m Wheezy seems to need: # unshare -m /bin/bash Jessie gives you the shell by default (perhaps your default). Cheers AndrewM s