Hello,
El 18 de noviembre de 2015 1:08:49 CET, Richard Owlett
escribió:
>In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for
>ease of adjusting space.
>
>When searching for more information all I'm finding are
>essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats"
>and "
Joel Rees a écrit :
>
> Thinking in terms of partitions as the things you mount in /etc/fstab.
Err, no. The things you mount in /etc/fstab are filesystems, not
partitions. A filesystem may not even lie in a partition or volume
(think about tmpfs, nfs...).
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 23:23:02 -0700
Glenn English wrote:
> Chill a bit, folks. There's no question that vi is better than emacs :-)..
Of course it is; yet we do not go round preaching to all and sundry "You should
use vi"...
Cheers,
Ron.
--
You do ill if you praise, but worse i
On Saturday 21 November 2015 04:06:49 moxalt wrote:
> I understand that everyone's rallying against the outsider here, but really
> guys? 'Should'?
Oh dear! lets all weep. "Outsider"? What on earth are you talking about?
Why are you an outsider anymore than anyone else?
It isn't the word tha
On Saturday 21 November 2015 04:44:26 moxalt wrote:
> Even when I complied with this, you made it clear that it doesn't matter
> what words I use anyway, because by having opinions and expressing them I
> am doing something akin to the Inquisition.
No, by imposing them on others etc.
Lisi
On Saturday 21 November 2015 06:23:02 Glenn English wrote:
> On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:48 PM, moxalt wrote:
> >> "Should"
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/should
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/should
> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/should
>
> Chill a bit, folks. There's no question t
On Friday 20 November 2015 23:23:56 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:10:38PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > So the operations are simply setting up an environment for doing the
> > rescue, not overwriting the existing system? I'm happy to change my
> > expectation if that's the case
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 07:06:49 +0300
moxalt wrote:
> > * Of course there is the difference between "You should avoid punching me in
> > the nose" and "You should use only FLOSS".
>
> Not really. Both are actions I would engage in, and would like others to do
> the
> same. I never thought the wo
David Christensen a écrit :
>
> As I understand it, self-encrypting drives (SED) encrypt everything
> (including the boot partition). To use this feature, you need a
> computer with BIOS/ UEFI that supports it -- e.g. the BIOS will prompt
> you for the password during POST; if you don't enter t
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 08:57:56 +
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> The problem is well highlighted by these dictionary offerings. "Should"
> expresses obligation and duty, not a recommendation or preference.
Absolutely, Lisl, there is a mort of difference between on one hand "I like vi
better", "I believ
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 07:44:26 +0300
moxalt wrote:
> Even when I complied with this, you made it clear that it doesn't matter what
> words I use anyway, because by having opinions and expressing them I am doing
> something akin to the Inquisition.
Not at all; it is only when you try to force other
On 2015-11-21 03:59, David Christensen wrote:
> On 11/20/2015 01:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> Anyone with physical access can do whatever they want. You can set up
>> restrictions in the BIOS or set restrictions in the boot loader, but
>> they still can take the disk out and read or modify it w
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 20 November 2015 08:47:25 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 07:01:41PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote:
> > > This reminds of an outcome that makes your system vulnerable to data
> > > theft. Following the above steps,
On Friday 20 November 2015 12:35:34 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> OTOH we woldn't be here were
> it not for one very vociferous preacher, RMS
And there was I thinking I was here because of Linus and Ian. ;-)
Lisi
On 11/21/2015 2:06 AM, Javi Barroso wrote:
Hello,
El 18 de noviembre de 2015 1:08:49 CET, Richard Owlett
escribió:
In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for
ease of adjusting space.
When searching for more information all I'm finding are
essentially HOWTO's with only a
Hi,
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > OTOH we woldn't be here were
> > it not for one very vociferous preacher, RMS [Richard Matthew Stallman]
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> And there was I thinking I was here because of Linus and Ian. ;-)
Standing on the shoulders of Dennis M. Ritchie, Ken Thompson,
S.R. Bourne
On 11/19/2015 6:46 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 11/18/2015 4:07 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
2015/11/18 9:09 "Richard Owlett":
In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease
of adjusting space.[snip]
I've a machine set asi
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 12:53:44 +0100, "Thomas Schmitt" wrote:
> > > OTOH we woldn't be here were
> > > it not for one very vociferous preacher, RMS [Richard Matthew Stallman]
>
> > And there was I thinking I was here because of Linus and Ian. ;-)
>
> Standing on the shoulders of Dennis M. Rit
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 08:53:39 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 21 November 2015 04:06:49 moxalt wrote:
> > I understand that everyone's rallying against the outsider here, but really
> > guys? 'Should'?
>
> Oh dear! lets all weep. "Outsider"? What on earth are you talking about?
> Wh
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 06:20:23 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 07:44:26 +0300
> moxalt wrote:
>
> > Even when I complied with this, you made it clear that it doesn't matter
> > what words I use anyway, because by having opinions and expressing them I
> > am doing somethin
On 11/20/2015 4:28 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
[snip]
http://linuxconfig.org/linux-lvm-logical-volume-manager
And that might be the sort of overview the OP was looking for, even
though it looks more liike instructions for use.
It may be more
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 15:24:52 +0300, moxalt wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 08:53:39 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
> > On Saturday 21 November 2015 04:06:49 moxalt wrote:
> > > I understand that everyone's rallying against the outsider here, but
> > > really guys? 'Should'?
> >
> > Oh dear! le
Hi,
Special thanks to the first sea squirt larva, who refused
to become sessile and digest its own brain.
The price for life-time achievement goes to The Big Bang
who loaded our stockpile of low entropy which we can use up
for being a problem between keyboard and chair.
Have a nice day :)
Thom
Hello,
El 20 de noviembre de 2015 18:03:03 CET, Pavel Volkov
escribió:
>What's the current officially recommended way to operate packages: apt-
>
>utilities or aptitude?
>I heard aptitude development was stalled and it offered no real
>advantages
>(not counting interactive mode).
It was stalle
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> The problem is well highlighted by these dictionary offerings. "Should"
> expresses obligation and duty, not a recommendation or preference.
Still, when I say "You should not try to stop others from saying things
you find uncomfortable" I am expressing *my opinion* as to what
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On 21/11/2015 1:59 PM, David Christensen wrote:
> On 11/20/2015 01:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> Anyone with physical access can do whatever they want. You can
>> set up restrictions in the BIOS or set restrictions in the boot
>> loader, but the
Renaud writes:
> No, because you are still trying to impose your own values on others.
There is no attempt to impose anything. "You should do that" does not
mean "You must do that or I will punish you". Do you find "You should
recycle" offensive? How about "You should not injure others?"
--
Jo
On 21/11/2015 8:17 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> David Christensen a écrit :
>>
>> As I understand it, self-encrypting drives (SED) encrypt everything
>> (including the boot partition). To use this feature, you need a
>> computer with BIOS/ UEFI that supports it -- e.g. the BIOS will prompt
>>
Renaud writes:
> but following the precept wisely given by the Fathers of the American
> Constitution, never try to impose your religion on others !
It bars the state from using its power to forcibly impose a religion.
It has been explicitly interpreted as protecting the right to tell
others that
Il 21/11/2015 14:40, John Hasler ha scritto:
Renaud writes:
No, because you are still trying to impose your own values on others.
There is no attempt to impose anything. "You should do that" does not
mean "You must do that or I will punish you". Do you find "You should
recycle" offensive?
On 11/20/2015 11:06 PM, moxalt wrote:
On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 05:19:46 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
I understand that everyone's rallying against the outsider here, but really
guys? 'Should'?
* Of course there is the difference between "You should avoid punching me in
the nose" and "You should us
On 11/21/2015 03:57 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 21 November 2015 06:23:02 Glenn English wrote:
On Nov 20, 2015, at 9:48 PM, moxalt wrote:
"Should"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/should
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/should
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/should
Chill a bit
On 11/21/2015 08:54 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Renaud writes:
but following the precept wisely given by the Fathers of the American
Constitution, never try to impose your religion on others !
It bars the state from using its power to forcibly impose a religion.
It has been explicitly interpreted a
On 11/21/2015 06:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2015 12:35:34 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
OTOH we woldn't be here were
it not for one very vociferous preacher, RMS
And there was I thinking I was here because of Linus and Ian. ;-)
Me too. Where would be be without Linus? Ric
--
M
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:20:07 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/21/2015 06:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 20 November 2015 12:35:34 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >> OTOH we woldn't be here were
> >> it not for one very vociferous preacher, RMS
> >
> > And there was I thinking I was here beca
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 09:53:28 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/20/2015 11:06 PM, moxalt wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 05:19:46 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
>
> > I understand that everyone's rallying against the outsider here, but really
> > guys? 'Should'?
> >
> >> * Of course there is the di
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:10:49 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/21/2015 08:54 AM, John Hasler wrote:
> > Renaud writes:
> >> but following the precept wisely given by the Fathers of the American
> >> Constitution, never try to impose your religion on others !
> >
> > It bars the state from using
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 07:31:00 -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > The problem is well highlighted by these dictionary offerings. "Should"
> > expresses obligation and duty, not a recommendation or preference.
>
> Still, when I say "You should not try to stop others from saying t
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:55:29 +0100, Mauro Condarelli wrote:
> Il 21/11/2015 14:40, John Hasler ha scritto:
> > Renaud writes:
> >> No, because you are still trying to impose your own values on others.
> > There is no attempt to impose anything. "You should do that" does not
> > mean "You mus
Il 21/11/2015 18:15, moxalt ha scritto:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 14:55:29 +0100, Mauro Condarelli wrote:
Who's the "Taliban"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban
I know, thanks.
That was meant as a rhetoric question; alternately spelled as:
"Who fits better the definition of "Taliban" (thanks fo
On 11/21/2015 11:59 AM, moxalt wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:20:07 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/21/2015 06:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2015 12:35:34 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
OTOH we woldn't be here were
it not for one very vociferous preacher, RMS
And there was I thinkin
> But telling them what they "should" do, unless it relates to behaviour that
> affexts you directly(*) is the first step on the road to intolerance,
> persecution, the Talibans and the Inquisition, etc.
Other people using flash (or Windows, or iPads, ...) does affect me
directly, and I think it a
On 11/21/2015 12:02 PM, moxalt wrote:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:10:49 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On 11/21/2015 08:54 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Renaud writes:
but following the precept wisely given by the Fathers of the American
Constitution, never try to impose your religion on others !
It bars the
Yes; I ended up with the Debian Installer. I think I've found the
right place now. Of course, there's Knoppix, but the smaller image is
a bit dated.
Thanks everyone for your help.
Ross
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 1:00 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 20 November 2015 23:23:56 Bob Holtzman wrot
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Joel Rees a écrit :
>>
>> Thinking in terms of partitions as the things you mount in /etc/fstab.
>
> Err, no.
Sometimes you think of things in ways that don't match the common
convention. Sometimes those ways of thinking spill out onto the
On Sat, 2015-11-21 at 12:55 -0600, Joel Rees wrote:
> That's the common way of explaining fstab, and it is, indeed, the way
> I should have explained it if I were going to bother explaining it
> where slaves to convention congregate.
I agree with your points, but it's rude to sneer.
Andrew McGlashan a écrit :
>
> On 21/11/2015 8:17 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> David Christensen a écrit :
>>> As I understand it, self-encrypting drives (SED) encrypt everything
>>> (including the boot partition). To use this feature, you need a
>>> computer with BIOS/ UEFI that supports it --
Andrew McGlashan a écrit :
>
> On 21/11/2015 1:59 PM, David Christensen wrote:
>> On 11/20/2015 01:04 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>> Anyone with physical access can do whatever they want. You can
>>> set up restrictions in the BIOS or set restrictions in the boot
>>> loader, but they still can tak
On Sat 21 Nov 2015 at 06:13:37 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> My analogy would be "When planning a trip thru NYC, via Grand Central and
> Penn Station, are you really interested in number of steps between levels of
> intervening subway stations?"
You are at liberty to answer your own question. It
The Debian live CD isn't much as a rescue CD; it lacks parted and lvm,
for example. At least the text only image I used did. Of course, you
can install those packages after startup.
I wasn't logged in, and it took some searching to find out the right
id. For the record it's user, with password
On 22/11/2015 6:11 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Andrew McGlashan a écrit :
>>> Assuming the vendor firmware has no backdoor or flaw allowing to bypass
>>> the user-defined password.
>>
>> Ditto for the drive's own firmware. ;-)
>
> That's what I was referring to as "vendor firmware". The disk ve
On 22/11/2015 6:17 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Andrew McGlashan a écrit :
> What problem does it solve exactly, besides the need of a keyboard ?
> I do not see how this "solution" protects against tampering of the
> unencrypted boot part.
True, physical access and you are still toast.
A.
I am having trouble with the Gnome Applications menu.
The problem is not present at boot-up. It appears for no apparent
reason, sometimes weeks after bootup.
I click on "Applications" in the tool bar at the top of the screen.
The drop-down list of applications appears.
I hover over any of the
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 09:00:36AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 20 November 2015 23:23:56 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:10:38PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > > So the operations are simply setting up an environment for doing the
> > > rescue, not overwriting the existin
On Saturday 21 November 2015 12:13:37 Richard Owlett wrote:
> My analogy would be "When planning a trip thru NYC, via Grand
> Central and Penn Station, are you really interested in number of
> steps between levels of intervening subway stations?"
Very much so. I spend much time sorting out just t
On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote:
> Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the
> language is lacking (so say the least), please bear with me.
Which might limit your ability to comment on the finer nuances of the meaning
of the language.
Plea
On Saturday 21 November 2015 22:37:27 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 09:00:36AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 20 November 2015 23:23:56 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:10:38PM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > > > So the operations are simply setting up an e
On Saturday 21 November 2015 13:10:47 Javi Barroso wrote:
> I think that using multiarch is a problem for aptitude.
I've not had a problem using multiarch with aptitude on Wheezy. I hope that
those are not famous last words.
Lisi
Hello.
There is a behavior change I noticed when I switched to Jessie, which
have always annoyed me but that I never tried to resolve.
The change is that now, when I use startx on TTY1, Xorg replaces the
TTY. I understand that it is not a problem for 99% of users, but I would
like to know ho
Il 21/11/2015 23:45, Lisi Reisz ha scritto:
On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote:
Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the
language is lacking (so say the least), please bear with me.
Which might limit your ability to comment on the finer n
On Saturday 21 November 2015 23:34:44 Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
> When people is doing wrong, they ought to know that. If somebody isn't
> going to listen to moral principles,
It is not up to this list to teach us all moral principles. We all have
different moral principles. Maybe some of us
El 14/11/15 a las 18:33, Joel Rees escribió:
Anyway, the point is that you are moving your project forward, right?
Yes.
Now I have a working Base64 implementation using SSE. I developed it on
my real computer since it has SSE support (up to SSE 4.2). I get a
relative reduction of running tim
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 01:00:43PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/21/2015 12:02 PM, moxalt wrote:
> >Prison or sanatorium?
>
> Treated properly, as I see it, prison could be much more of a sanitarium.
Life is like a box of breakfast cereal ... *ducks*.
--
"If you're not careful, the newspaper
El 19/11/15 a las 18:01, Ric Moore escribió:
On 11/19/2015 11:55 AM, moxalt wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:34:38 +, Lisi Reisz
wrote:
That's a bit arrogant - saying that other people shouldn't watch the
news on
their computers because you would choose not to do so.
Lisi
I don't think a
El 18/11/15 a las 17:39, Ric Moore escribió:
On 11/18/2015 02:24 PM, moxalt wrote:
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as
Linux, is
in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus
Linux.
Depends who's version of the definition of OS you use:
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 17:50:07 -0600, Mario Castelán Castro
wrote:
> El 18/11/15 a las 17:39, Ric Moore escribió:
> > On 11/18/2015 02:24 PM, moxalt wrote:
> >
> >> I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as
> >> Linux, is
> >> in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently tak
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 12:54:27 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/21/2015 11:59 AM, moxalt wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:20:07 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/21/2015 06:21 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> On Friday 20 November 2015 12:35:34 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> OTOH we woldn't
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 00:47:08 +0100, Mauro Condarelli wrote:
> Il 21/11/2015 23:45, Lisi Reisz ha scritto:
> > On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote:
> >> Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the
> >> language is lacking (so say the least), ple
Lisi writes:
> I am tired of being lectured at and carpeted for using Debian.
You needn't read anything you don't want to. Use your killfile and be happy.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
El 21/11/15 a las 18:10, Lisi Reisz escribió:
On Saturday 21 November 2015 23:34:44 Mario Castelán Castro wrote:
When people is doing wrong, they ought to know that. If somebody isn't
going to listen to moral principles,
It is not up to this list to teach us all moral principles. We all have
El 21/11/15 a las 16:45, Lisi Reisz escribió:
On Saturday 21 November 2015 17:36:46 Mauro Condarelli wrote:
Unfortunately English is not my mother language, so my command of the
language is lacking (so say the least), please bear with me.
Which might limit your ability to comment on the finer
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