Re: [OT] top-posting (was: unlisted mirrors & non-gui installation)

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:31:27 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 23:16:03 +0300 > Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > Please do not top post. And please do not send html e-mails to the list. > > > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 14:40:08 -0500 > > Adrian O'Dell wrote: >

Re: print .tex or .dvi or .ps from Windows

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:54:01 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Tue 13 Oct 2015 at 22:40:24 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:37:34 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > > > > > Try downloading this document and reading it with mupdf (or a Linux > > > viewer of your choice). > > > > > >

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Joel Rees
2015/10/14 13:24 "Ric Moore" : > > On 10/13/2015 11:20 PM, tom arnall wrote: >> >> I am running Wheezy and notice that the boot options include but >> aren't limited to systemd. Is it possible to have this arrangement >> with Jessie? > > > No. :) Ric I tend to be wandering around way out in left f

Regarding wiki.d.o

2015-10-14 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
Does anyone has an idea about how to resolve this issue? wiki.debian.org reports Error 403 Forbidden, You are now allowed to access this. I use internet from my college network, via campus proxy servers and url filters. I did sent a mail to wiki.debian.org 17 hours ago, but had no response. Bein

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server

2015-10-14 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Fredrik Jonson writes: > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian? [...] > AFAIU, to make this happen, I need to have a user Systemd instance started on > boot. How do I set up my Debian server to automatically start a user instance > for a regular user on boot to co

Either KLauncher is not running anymore, or it failed to start the application.

2015-10-14 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Hi, I am running a debian 8 stable system and have some trouble with KDE or KLauncher. Every once in a while, directly after loging into KDE I can not launch a program, e.g. iceweasel. The system seems to hang, not reacting to mouse clicks. After waiting for a minute or so an error message pop

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread tom arnall
i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? who decided that Debian shd be locked to systemd? what did they do to poll the views of the user community on the question? is it true that Red Hat had a major

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

2015-10-14 Thread Timothy Hobbs
Say that you are using the Desktop version of Android(tm). It's pretty close to the truth. On 10/14/15 05:33, Stuart Longland wrote: On 14/10/15 13:23, John Hasler wrote: Lie. Tell them you're running Windows 95. "Ohh sorry, we only support Windows 7 or 8"

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

2015-10-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/13/2015 06:24 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 02:36:46 -0400 (EDT), Jimmy Johnson wrote: Looks like it was mailed from MS Windows. Maybe mailed from a Windows OS with a virus. Do you run Windows too? No, I don't. There is no computer connected to my home network that ev

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

2015-10-14 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Oct 2015 at 22:21:08 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:57:58 -0400 (EDT), Brian wrote: > > > > The comment was a general one and directed at all our readers. However, > > earlier you said "Someone discovered my password somehow". You have > > just demolished that gu

Re: Regarding wiki.d.o

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:57:09PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > Does anyone has an idea about how to resolve this issue? > wiki.debian.org reports Error 403 Forbidden, You are now allowed to access > this. > > I use internet from my college network, via campus proxy servers and ur

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, tom arnall writes: > i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling > that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? > On 10/13/15, Joel Rees wrote: >> I tend to be wandering around way out in left field a lot, but >> >> https://wiki.debian.org/syst

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-10-14, tom arnall wrote: > i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling > that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? > > who decided that Debian shd be locked to systemd? > > what did they do to poll the views of the user community on the qu

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:55:36AM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling > that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? > > who decided that Debian shd be locked to systemd? The Debian Technical Committee (tech-ctte)

Re: Regarding wiki.d.o

2015-10-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Oct 2015 at 12:34:27 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:57:09PM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > > Does anyone has an idea about how to resolve this issue? > > wiki.debian.org reports Error 403 Forbidden, You are now allowed to access > > this. > > > > I use internet from m

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Alex Moonshine
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 00:55:36 -0700 tom arnall wrote: > i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling > that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation t

Re: Isn't this a security compromise?

2015-10-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:07:48AM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > I searched today about what to do if one forgets his/her linux password. > The following links described the process: > https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password > http:/

Re: Debian preseed late_command not executed

2015-10-14 Thread Brian
On Wed 14 Oct 2015 at 00:30:39 +0200, Florian Pelgrim wrote: > I'm trying to preseed my installation which works fine so far but the > late_command is not getting executed. > > This are my last lines of my preseed configuration: > > d-i preseed/late_command string \ > > in-target /bin/mkdir /ro

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:55:36AM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling > that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? That depends on your expectations wrt desktop. If y

Suddenly Unbootable Systemd

2015-10-14 Thread David Baron
Systemd is still 226-4, not upgraded, had been working up until my first boot this morning which booted OK. Upgraded some KF5 Baloo packages to fix dorked KDE, rebooted, then bingo. Boot stops with lvmetad is not active yet disk/by-uuid/fca . invalid path or logical Then a minute-30 second

Expand your Business

2015-10-14 Thread Michael ealy
*Dear debian.org,I’m Michael Ealy, a new age Digital Marketing expert. I'm here with some new business insights and probably, this email will answer “Why your website isn't making money?” After a thorough inspection, my research team has given an analysis report that reveals, ● the prese

Re: [OT] Has my e-mail account been hacked?

2015-10-14 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:33:02PM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 14/10/15 13:23, John Hasler wrote: > > Lie. Tell them you're running Windows 95. > > "Ohh sorry, we only support Windows 7 or 8" I can truthfully say that my Android-based tablet can't get access. It's hard for ISPs not to sup

Re: Isn't this a security compromise?

2015-10-14 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 10:07:48AM +0530, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > I searched today about what to do if one forgets his/her linux password. > The following links described the process: > https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password > http://xmodulo.com/how-to-reset-root-password-in-debi

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, tom arnall writes: [SNIP] what did they do to poll the views of the user community on the question? If you want to know how Debian's technical committee came to choose systemd as the default init, see [2]. [2] That page e

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Alex Moonshine
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:49:08 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > What has the end-user, with a single machine, gained today from > the adoption of systemd? Speaking for myself: 1. It took me an hour of googling to write my own working init script. It takes me 10 minutes to write my own systemd unit.

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 October 2015 13:49:08 Richard Owlett wrote: > Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > tom arnall writes: > >>[SNIP] > >> > >> what did they do to poll the views of the user community on the > >> question? > > > > If you want to know how Debian's technical committee came to choose >

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 October 2015 10:33:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > That depends on your expectations wrt desktop. If you target a fat DE, > it'll be difficult (for Gnome perhaps nigh impossible dunno). I understood that Gnome3 depends on systemd. Lisi

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 07:49:08AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > Ansgar Burchardt wrote: [...] > > [2] > > > > That page explicitly answers "How?" [with a emphasis perhaps on the > mechanics on how the formal side

Re: Plymouth theme with Caps Lock indication.

2015-10-14 Thread moxalt
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 18:19:46 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 13/10/2015 16:45, moxalt a écrit : > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 11:43:58 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > >>Hello, > >> > >> I hava a laptop with encrytped FS, thus at boot I must enter the > >> decryption password. However, the keyboard

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 14 October 2015 13:49:08 Richard Owlett wrote: Ansgar Burchardt wrote: Hi, tom arnall writes: [SNIP] what did they do to poll the views of the user community on the question? If you want to know how Debian's technical committee came to choose systemd as the

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/14/2015 03:55 AM, tom arnall wrote: i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? Yes, you failed to google on month's worth of hundreds of old posts concerning this or you just happen to enjoy trol

gnome 3.18 bug?

2015-10-14 Thread Floris
Dear Debian users, a couple of days ago Gnome 3.18 has been released in unstable. Unfortunately I am unable to update my machine to the new version. After the failure I downgrade the packages to the testing version and update them one by one to figure out which package doesn't work. The first f

Re: Suddenly Unbootable Systemd

2015-10-14 Thread Ric Moore
On 10/14/2015 07:32 AM, David Baron wrote: Upgraded some KF5 Baloo packages to fix dorked KDE, rebooted, then bingo. Boot stops with lvmetad is not active yet disk/by-uuid/fca . invalid path or logical Then a minute-30 second start job runs for a device (differing uuid). After that, con

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Joel Rees
2015/10/15 0:15 "Ric Moore" : > > On 10/14/2015 03:55 AM, tom arnall wrote: >> >> i read the piece on installing without systemd. i get the feeling >> that the bottom line of it is: good luck. or am i missing something? > > > Yes, you failed to google on month's worth of hundreds of old posts conc

Re: Broadcom TG3 network drops, cannot recover without reboot

2015-10-14 Thread Toan Pham
Justin, Have you found a solution to the NIC issue yet? FYI, I was working with Broadcom's test team but they pretty much dropped the ball on me So it is all up to us to find a solution! Please share if you know how to get the NIC not to drop out intermitently. thank you, TP On Thu, May

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:18:23 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 14 October 2015 10:33:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > That depends on your expectations wrt desktop. If you target a fat DE, > > it'll be difficult (for Gnome perhaps nigh impossible dunno). > > I understood that Gno

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 14 October 2015 17:06:09 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:18:23 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 14 October 2015 10:33:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > That depends on your expectations wrt desktop. If you target a fat DE, > > > it'll be difficult (for Gn

A server getting mad

2015-10-14 Thread rudu
Hello, I'm in search of advice here as I don't know where to start. A server has been running backuppc nicely for several years. And then a couple of months ago, it began to eat up the bandwidth of the local network. I don't have much information now as it's a remote location and I can't get a

Re: Suddenly Unbootable Systemd

2015-10-14 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 14 October 2015 11:41:42 Ric Moore wrote: > On 10/14/2015 07:32 AM, David Baron wrote: > > Upgraded some KF5 Baloo packages to fix dorked KDE, rebooted, then bingo. > > > > Boot stops with > > > > lvmetad is not active yet > > > > disk/by-uuid/fca . invalid path or logical > >

Re: Broadcom TG3 network drops, cannot recover without reboot

2015-10-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 14 October 2015 12:04:27 Toan Pham wrote: > Justin, > > Have you found a solution to the NIC issue yet? > > FYI, I was working with Broadcom's test team but they pretty much > dropped the ball on me So it is all up to us to find a solution! > Please share if you know how to get

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:36:40 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 14 October 2015 17:06:09 Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 15:18:23 +0100 > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 14 October 2015 10:33:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > That depends on your

Re: A server getting mad

2015-10-14 Thread Sven Hartge
rudu wrote: > All I could gather via phone call during the problem with a top and > netstat command on the server is that a "xddlvqhhrd" command is > consuming 25% of CPU and that a connection is established with a > remote IP by a program named "grep "A"" > Sounds like a rootkit to me. Definit

RE: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Arno Schuring
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:05:16 +0300 > From: moonsh...@openmailbox.org > > On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:49:08 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > >> What has the end-user, with a single machine, gained today from >> the adoption of systemd? > > Speaking for myself: > 1. It took me an hour of googling to

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Nicolas George
Le tridi 23 vendémiaire, an CCXXIV, Arno Schuring a écrit : > It's been years since I've seen a system where the OS boot took longer > than the BIOS boot. Linux or Windows alike. You may have noticed that the operator between the time for the POST and the time for the OS boot is +, not max(). Reg

RE: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Arno Schuring
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 22:26:53 +0200 > From: geo...@nsup.org > > Le tridi 23 vendémiaire, an CCXXIV, Arno Schuring a écrit : >> It's been years since I've seen a system where the OS boot took longer >> than the BIOS boot. Linux or Windows alike. > > You may have noticed that the operator betwee

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Nicolas George
Le tridi 23 vendémiaire, an CCXXIV, Arno Schuring a écrit : > Of course. But when your BIOS boot time is 15 seconds, it hardly makes > any difference if your OS boots in 3 seconds or in 2.1 seconds, does it? Five percent: small but not negligible. For low-end laptops, the difference is more signif

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Alex Moonshine
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 21:51:17 +0200 Arno Schuring wrote: > The last time I wrote an init script: > > - copy /etc/init.d/skeleton > - edit the DAEMON= and DESC= lines I'll be completely honest, I just never understood sysvinit. I'm alright with bsd-style Slackware single-rc.d-folder layout, where

Hung on reboot/shutdown

2015-10-14 Thread Anton Byshovets
Hello. I have a problem with reboot/shutdown. If i try to reboot or shutdown (reboot, shutdown -r now, systemctl reboot --force, sync && reboot -f, etc ...) the system was hang. I tried to catch this bug in logs, but have nothing. Can I get an advice, how can I debug and solve this problem? Thanx.

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

2015-10-14 Thread moxalt
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT), ray wrote: > The above reference was for the 'free' version. I have not been able to get > the non-free to boot. I have wiped the Win OS and now it just says no > bootable device. So I will write to another stick and see it that works. This seems very

Re: gnome mouse configuration

2015-10-14 Thread moxalt
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 06:30:40 +0200, Peter Berlau wrote: > Hi, > I know the option in the 'control center', but different from gnome > i could define the behavior for each single mouse, tablet individual and > persistant.. > I could not find this option or, maybe, it does not exist. Not bad at >

Re: Putting apt-listchanges and dpkg output in mail sent by unattended-upgrades

2015-10-14 Thread moxalt
On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 19:22:55 +0200, Ondřej Grover wrote: > > > > The most "Debian-proper" way? I'm not really sure- I would edit the script > > myself and just keep that as the local version. The only problem is that > > newer > > versions of the package would probably overwrite it- but they may

Re: Hung on reboot/shutdown

2015-10-14 Thread Michael Jones
On 15 Oct 2015 1:00 am, "Anton Byshovets" wrote: > > Hello. > I have a problem with reboot/shutdown. If i try to reboot or shutdown > (reboot, shutdown -r now, systemctl reboot --force, sync && reboot -f, > etc ...) the system was hang. I tried to catch this bug in logs, but > have nothing. > Can

direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-14 Thread rlharris
Yesterday in the office of my associate, I tried without success to install a HP LaserJet 2100TN in a wired local area network (LAN) consisting of nothing but a i386 running Windows 8, a modem (which I think also is router) and an ethernet switch. Through Control Panel, I learned that the computer

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-14 Thread Mart van de Wege
Alex Moonshine writes: > On Wed, 14 Oct 2015 07:49:08 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > >> What has the end-user, with a single machine, gained today from >> the adoption of systemd? > > Speaking for myself: > 1. It took me an hour of googling to write my own working init script. > It takes me 10

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 00:34:14 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Yesterday in the office of my associate, I tried without success to > install a HP LaserJet 2100TN in a wired local area network (LAN) > consisting of nothing but a i386 running Windows 8, a modem (which I think > also is