Debian 6 gone wonky overnight

2014-12-01 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. I am running Debian 6 on this computer. Overnight, the appearance of the GUI has changed (running GNOME 2.x, I think), with tab labels (if that is the correct term) changed in appearance, so theat they take many times as much length, now allowing only about 6 tabs to be displayed in a wind

Re: Debian 6 gone wonky overnight

2014-12-01 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2014-12-01, Bret Busby wrote: > Hello. > > I am running Debian 6 on this computer. > > Overnight, the appearance of the GUI has changed (running GNOME 2.x, I > think), with tab labels (if that is the correct term) changed in > appearance, so theat they take many times as much length, now allowi

Re: random bits in badblocks

2014-12-01 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 12:08:35AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > The option -t random specifies that "the block should be filled with a > random bit pattern". > > Now, just how random is that bit pattern. > > Does it choose a random byte and fill the entire hard drive with it? If I'm reading th

Re: Creating a peculiar Live-CD

2014-12-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 29 nov 14, 16:46:01, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Application 2: > Extremely secure browsing and email for me on my personal machine. https://tails.boum.org/ Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://list

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 28 nov 14, 12:50:56, Ross Boylan wrote: > Judging from https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO, which doesn't > seem current but is all I could find, if I'm on the amd64 architecture > and want to support i386 I should expect to get packages like > libc6:i386. There are a number of other pa

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 1 December 2014 at 23:15, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 28 nov 14, 12:50:56, Ross Boylan wrote: >> Judging from https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO, which doesn't >> seem current but is all I could find, if I'm on the amd64 architecture >> and want to support i386 I should expect to get pa

Re: Debian 6 gone wonky overnight

2014-12-01 Thread Bret Busby
On 01/12/2014, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 2014-12-01, Bret Busby wrote: >> Hello. >> >> I am running Debian 6 on this computer. >> >> Overnight, the appearance of the GUI has changed (running GNOME 2.x, I >> think), with tab labels (if that is the correct term) changed in >> appearance, so theat th

Re: Question about an attempt to upgrade CUPS and cups-filters

2014-12-01 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 11:55:44AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm using Jessie, and attempting to do frequent update/upgrades. > I use aptitude. Computer is HP with dual core pentium cpu. > The most recent upgrade left cups and cups-filters only partially > installed with the following rep

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-01, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > .deb... ? > > Ross - are you trying to install JN Net Connect Java client for SA? > I thought he was trying to install this: http://www.scc.kit.edu/scc/net/juniper-vpn/linux/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a sub

Re: Debian 6 gone wonky overnight

2014-12-01 Thread Curt
On 2014-12-01, Bret Busby wrote: >>> >>> Is the last set of updates, wonky, or, has some sort of virus, struck? >> >> Very unlikely. >> > > Maybe it all just decided to pull a sickie. > Not here it didn't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "uns

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Ric Moore
On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more developers will start writing apps with systemd, or parts of it, as a dependency for the "features" it offers. Every other

Preseed single encrypted partition (without LVM)

2014-12-01 Thread ML mail
Hello, Anyone knows the correct preseed and debconf commands/HD recipe in order to encrypt a single partition with partman-crypto for an automated install? I do not want to use LVM and I could not find any single documentation mentioning how to do that whith wheezy. Basically my HD partitionin

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ric Moore wrote: On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more developers will start writing apps with systemd, or parts of it, as a dependency for the "features" it offe

Re: Re: Ignoring the Release "Valid_Until" option in the preseed file

2014-12-01 Thread Linux Luser
Filed a feature request to this end: http://bugs.debian.org/771699

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Ross Boylan
Thanks Andrei, Scott and Curt for your help. I was only expecting help on the general 32/64 bit issues, but since you asked, here are some details about my particular goal. I am trying to install Juniper's client 8.0 software from an rpm; apparently they don't have a deb (there is a deb for the 7

Preseed single encrypted partition (without LVM)

2014-12-01 Thread ML mail
Hello, Anyone knows the correct preseed and debconf commands/HD recipe in order to encrypt a single partition with partman-crypto for an automated install? I do not want to use LVM and I could not find any single documentation mentioning how to do that whith wheezy. Basically my HD partitionin

Worry about entropy?

2014-12-01 Thread francis picabia
I'm looking at DNSSEC implementation. One guide points out haveged as a way to speed up performance of dnssec-keygen. It certainly did. I'm wondering if anyone has noticed performance improvement by running haveged on systems with certain applications. Commonly found advice on the net is to loo

Fwd: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
Apologies - accidentally sent to Ross only -- Forwarded message -- From: Scott Ferguson Date: 2 December 2014 at 08:07 Subject: Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client) To: Ross Boylan On 2 December 2014 at 06:41, Ross Boylan wrote: > Thanks Andrei, Scott and Curt for yo

Re: libc6-i386 vs libc6:i386 (for vpn client)

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 04:31, Curt wrote: > On 2014-12-01, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> .deb... ? >> >> Ross - are you trying to install JN Net Connect Java client for SA? >> > > I thought he was trying to install this: > > http://www.scc.kit.edu/scc/net/juniper-vpn/linux/ Install or "follow guide

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the > > default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more > > developers will start writing apps with systemd, or parts of it, as > >

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 01 December 2014 21:18:39 Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the > > > default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more > > > develope

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Edward J. Shornock
* seeker5528 [29-11-2014 08:52 EET]: > Oh yeah, if you've done all that you might actually want your user account > to belong to the shared group. ;) > as root: > > |usermod -a -G sharedusers yourusername| > > :note the capital G. In Debian you can also adduser yourusername sharedusers --

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/01/2014 04:18 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the default init more distros will follow suit, and more and more developers will start writing apps wit

Re: Why focus on systemd?

2014-12-01 Thread lee
Scott Ferguson writes: > On 29 November 2014 at 07:05, lee wrote: >> Scott Ferguson writes: >> > >>> >>> >>> On 22/11/14 20:50, lee wrote: Didier, you have *totally* missed the OPs point. BTW, since you assume that no "systemd takeover" >>> >>> Hyperbole much? >>

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > >> On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> >> > I fear that once If? > > >systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian ? Perl might be, but it seems a little hyperbolic to say systemd is (anymore the

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Having just waded through this thread, and then reading the standard itself, I can only conclude that it may not be "evil" but it is a horribly written standard. To start with, there's absolutely no context: The introduction reads, simply "Various specifications specify files and file formats

Re: Debian 6 gone wonky overnight

2014-12-01 Thread David Christensen
On 12/01/2014 12:21 AM, Bret Busby wrote: I am running Debian 6 on this computer. Overnight, the appearance of the GUI has changed (running GNOME 2.x, I think), with tab labels (if that is the correct term) changed in appearance, so theat they take many times as much length, now allowing only abo

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Having just waded through this thread, My sincere sympathies. > and then reading the standard itself, Based on what you are quoting - that's the Base Directory Specification, which is part of the XDG Standards > I can only conclude that it m

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman wrote: Having just waded through this thread, My sincere sympathies. and then reading the standard itself, Based on what you are quoting - that's the Base Directory Specification, which is part of the XDG Standards I can on

Re: XDG Standard is not evil

2014-12-01 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 2 December 2014 at 15:24, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> >> On 2 December 2014 at 11:49, Miles Fidelman >> wrote: >>> >>> Having just waded through this thread, >> >> My sincere sympathies. >> >>> and then reading the standard itself, >> >> Based on what you are quoting - tha

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > On 12/01/2014 04:18 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > > > >> On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> > >>> I fear that once systemd is firmly entrenched in Debian as the > >>> default init more distros will foll

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 2 December 2014 at 08:18, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > On Mon, 01 Dec 2014, Ric Moore wrote: > > > >> On 11/30/2014 11:27 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> > [snip] > > > > > as the > >> > default init more distros will follow suit, > > Very few do no

Re: Replacing systemd in Jessie

2014-12-01 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 01:18:39PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: Last time I checked -- two or three weeks ago -- only 6 distros besides Jessie were using systemd as the default: Fedora 15, RHEL 7, CentOS 7, Arch, OpenSUSE, and SUSE Server. Just read today Only SUSE Server 12 uses systemd, but