Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: >> It has just occurred to me - I believe that the appropriuate term for >> the Microsucks action, is crippleware. Microsucks has crippled >> versions of Skype, that have version numbers earlier than 4.3. >

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
> I had already tried one method of doing that - using the suggested > method which involved using sed - which was offered as an alternative > to using a hexeditor (which option scared me), and the option using > sed, did not work, and I had posted the errors that arose from tring > to use the se

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 20 September 2014 08:00:16 Bret Busby wrote: > On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: > >> It has just occurred to me - I believe that the appropriuate term for > >> the Microsucks action, is crippleware. Microsucks has crippled >

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:58:22 softwatt wrote: > Why is quoting always needed? > Mail clients know which mail is a reply to which. Well, I find it very difficult to follow you, and at least one person has answered and said that he did not know the original question but... Which encourag

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 09:04:41AM +0200, Hans wrote: > > > I had already tried one method of doing that - using the suggested > > method which involved using sed - which was offered as an alternative > > to using a hexeditor (which option scared me), and the option using > > sed, did not work, a

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 19 sep 14, 11:36:58, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > Why is it not possible to create a completely generic shell script - > basically ala SysV that can parse systemd config files for those use cases > where Systemd is undesirable? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00106.html Kind

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Joe
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:37:29 -0700 Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, David Christensen wrote: > > On 09/18/2014 10:54 PM, softwatt wrote: > > >Also, does a clean install offer any advantage over an upgrade? > > > > Yes, because: > > > > 1. You get a systems programming product that ha

corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread roberto
Hi, I'm trying to boot into my wheezy and am prompted with grub> minimal shell instead. I could boot a few weeks ago. I can't understand what's going on now. Here are important data: when in the grub> shell I do the following in this order: --

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:30:50 +0200 mikael Flood wrote: > it might be due to some configuration management agent running on the > system which dictates a sane state of /etc/network/interfaces. > > might be puppet or cfengine. I don't have much experience with puppet, cfengine, chef or ansi

Re: [OT] /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Reco
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:20:00 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 19 September 2014 15:57:38 Reco wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:38:23 +0500 > > > > Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > > thinks for your input. but i want to investigate which process is doing > > > this? > > > > Please do not top p

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread J M Cerqueira Esteves
Hi I had Skype 4.2.0.13 working after the editing suggested here, but tested it again today and it is no longer able to sign in --- thus, editing the version number may no longer be useful, at least for some. [in fact I closed my account months ago, just kept an old testing account for such tests

Re: corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 10:38:13 +0200, roberto wrote: > Hi, I'm trying to boot into my wheezy and am prompted with grub> minimal > shell instead. I could boot a few weeks ago. I can't understand what's > going on now. > Here are important data: > when in the grub> shell I do the following in this o

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 09:38:28 schrieb J M Cerqueira Esteves: > Hi > > I had Skype 4.2.0.13 working after the editing suggested here, > but tested it again today and it is no longer able to sign in --- thus, > editing the version number may no longer be useful, at least for some. > [in f

Re: apache2 what is the standard way to enable modules?

2014-09-20 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-09-20 7:48 GMT+02:00 Bob Proulx : > Harry Putnam wrote: > > Raffaele Morelli writes: > > >> Is that what you are warning about? > > > > > > Nope, my warning was to use `a2enmod cgi` instead of `a2enmod cgi.load` > > > (which is wrong) > > > > OK, thanks. But once again you've failed to expla

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 07:36:06AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Chris Bannister > wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 12:55:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > >> Erwan David writes: > >> > It is also importat to know if it is worth the effort to report bugs > >> > on so

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread softwatt
Can't I just do an rm -f -r /home//.* to get rid of hidden config? Will they be recreated? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:48:33 +0300 softwatt wrote: > Can't I just do an rm -f -r /home//.* to get rid of hidden > config? Will they be recreated? > Don't do this *ever*. It's not obvious, but your command will happily remove /home//.. , so everything in /home/ will evaporate. This is mo

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread softwatt
Thanks! But will they be recreated after the installation? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Reco
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:57:25 +0300 softwatt wrote: > Thanks! But will they be recreated after the installation? > Right after the installation - of course not. No sane package manager should change any file in the user's $HOME. But, if we count the first launch of installed programs - it could

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 18 sep 14, 16:54:23, Gary Dale wrote: > > I personally prefer to always do a dist-upgrade since it is a more > complete upgrade than the normal one. If your repositories always > point to testing, this will keep you current. Other people prefer to > just do an upgrade, claiming it is safer.

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 20 sep 14, 09:58:22, softwatt wrote: > Why is quoting always needed? Other readers might be missing previous messages (network delays, deleted it, etc.), but want to jump in now. Without any context they would be unable or could provide answers for a different question. > Mail clients k

Re: [OT] /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread mikael Flood
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 07:20:00 +0100 > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 19 September 2014 15:57:38 Reco wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:38:23 +0500 > > > > > > Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > > > thinks for your input. but i want to investigate

Re: Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-20 Thread Martin G. McCormick
"T.J. Duchene" writes: > Martin, > > I'm sorry you had problems with my suggestion. Most often, these > problems have to be handled by trial and error. I'm afraid I can only > offer advice based on my own experience and the fact you mentioned you > were using Pulseaudio. I assumed you had it alr

Re: Slight New Sound Problem

2014-09-20 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Chris Bannister writes: > I reckon the guys on the 'linux-audio-user' > (http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-user) mailing list > would be the ideal place for help with this. Probably so. I've exhausted all the obvious solutions now. Thank you. Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: OT: Pepper Flash Crashes Everywhere

2014-09-20 Thread Paul van der Vlis
op 18-09-14 03:14, Patrick Bartek schreef: > Anyone else experiencing this? Haven't found any reports so far. > Chrome & Pepper ran fine before update/upgrade a few days ago. Figured > I'd check before I started mucking about the system trying to fix it. > > Downloaded .deb directly from Google

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread softwatt
So, to sum it up: In my particular situation where I have a separate partition for /home/ , the best "upgrade" would be: 1. Installing a brand new Debian but leaving /home/ intact. 2. Deleting all the config stuff with `rm -rf /home//.[a-z0-9]*` 3. Done. Have I missed anything? signature.asc D

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread softwatt
On 09/20/2014 02:02 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 20 sep 14, 09:58:22, softwatt wrote: >> > Why is quoting always needed? > > Other readers might be missing previous messages (network delays, > deleted it, etc.), but want to jump in now. Without any context they > would be unable or could

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Read
On 20/09/14 13:01, softwatt wrote: So, to sum it up: In my particular situation where I have a separate partition for /home/ , the best "upgrade" would be: 1. Installing a brand new Debian but leaving /home/ intact. 2. Deleting all the config stuff with `rm -rf /home//.[a-z0-9]*` 3. Done. Have

Again skype < 4.2 does not connect - new workaround

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
Hi folks, Microsoft again is working against us. They have fixed the version patch. But don't hesitate: Here is a workaround I figured out. First, I tried hard to change all version advices in the binary, but got no success. It looks like M$ does check something other. My suggestion is, it loo

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread softwatt
On 09/20/2014 03:18 PM, Martin Read wrote: > On 20/09/14 13:01, softwatt wrote: >> So, to sum it up: In my particular situation where I have a separate >> partition for /home/ , the best "upgrade" would be: >> >> 1. Installing a brand new Debian but leaving /home/ intact. >> 2. Deleting all the con

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/19/14, Darac Marjal wrote: > > Put this into /etc/network/interfaces.d/br0 > >>allow-hotplug br0 >>iface br0 inet static >>address 10.xx.xx.18 >>netmask 255.xx.xx.xx >>network 10.xx.xx.0 >>gateway 10.xx.xx.3 >>broadcast 10.xx

Re: Again skype < 4.2 does not connect - new workaround

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 14:20:59 schrieb Hans: > Hi folks, Hi Hans, > Microsoft again is working against us. They have fixed the version patch. > But don't hesitate: Here is a workaround I figured out. I can still connect. With the same version patches 4.2 skype as before. Maybe was tem

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 01:48:41PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > P.S. please note the 'apt' command is only available since apt 1.0.0 bash completion isn't working for me. Is it for you? bash completion works fine for apt-get and dpkg. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you h

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Bret Busby
On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 20 September 2014 08:00:16 Bret Busby wrote: >> On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> > On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: >> >> It has just occurred to me - I believe that the appropriuate term for >> >> the Microsucks action, is

Re: Upgrading to Jessie

2014-09-20 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 21 sep 14, 02:19:08, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 01:48:41PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > P.S. please note the 'apt' command is only available since apt 1.0.0 > > bash completion isn't working for me. Is it for you? > > bash completion works fine for apt-get and dp

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Martin Read writes: > On 16/09/14 01:00, lee wrote: >> Shall we have a vote? AFAIK, there's nothing that would speak against >> having one, in this very mailing list. Why not ask the users? Why >> should only Debian developers be allowed to vote but not the users? > > Debian users, on the othe

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-20 Thread lee
st writes: > lee wrote: > >> Shall we have a vote? > > That's hardly necessary, seeing as how Debian developers have > been disregarding their users' needs in the last few years. Good point ... -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: Query about existence of way to free up unnecessary RAM usage

2014-09-20 Thread lee
B writes: > On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:53:50 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Have you actually tested (with hot-pluggable disks) what happens when >> one of the partitions the system is swapping to suddenly becomes >> unavailable or difficult to access and what happens when the data (on >> one of the sw

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: > 2014/09/19 5:27 "lee" : >> >> Joel Rees writes: >> >> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 10:43 PM, lee wrote: >> >> Joel Rees writes: >> > >> > Hmm. So. When you do a >> > >> > git status >> > >> > on the command line, with the current working directory at the >> > appropriate p

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Sven Joachim writes: > On 2014-09-16 02:00 +0200, lee wrote: > >> And I'd also like to hear what advantages systemd actually brings about >> that would make it desirable. > > https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd should get you started. I've read that page. Where are the advantages?

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Linux-Fan writes: > On 09/14/2014 04:33 PM, lee wrote: >> Linux-Fan writes: >> On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >>> >>> or even buy some additional drives (I know that it is often said that >>> "today drives are cheap" but for me being comparatively new to >>> computing, 60

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Linux-Fan writes: > On 09/14/2014 04:35 PM, lee wrote: >> Linux-Fan writes: >> >>> Also, the reliability of the external storage is required to be >>> perfect >> >> Then forget USB disks. Get an HP Microserver and reliable disks. > > Sorry, forgot to insert a not :). > It should read "the rel

Re: corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread roberto
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Brian wrote: > > Now you are in do: > >grub-install /dev/sda >update-grub > I did as above, no error reported and still no solution at all. When I reboot, I get the grub prompt again... -- Roberto

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 22:42:52 schrieb Bret Busby: > On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 20 September 2014 08:00:16 Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> It has just occurred to me - I

Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?

2014-09-20 Thread Sreedhav Sistla
Dear sir/Madam, I have an Asus Notebook ,Model: X550L with just MSDOS on it. My intention was to install Linux Debian OS on it! I have read the linux-on-laptops.com/(this particular model was not listed under Asus) and need your help in selecting

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
> > As in the other thread again, it still works here. With version patched 4.2. > > At least I can see online state of buddies after login in and it does log > in. > > Ciao, Did you real disconnect or just close the application? Try to diconnect and reconnect. Does it work? Best Hans --

Re: Ideal Debian distro for Asus Notebook?

2014-09-20 Thread Gary Dale
On 20/09/14 11:13 AM, Sreedhav Sistla wrote: Dear sir/Madam, I have an Asus Notebook ,Model: X550L with just MSDOS on it. My intention was to install Linux Debian OS on it! I have read the linux-on-laptops.com/(this

Re: OT: Pepper Flash Crashes Everywhere

2014-09-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > op 18-09-14 03:14, Patrick Bartek schreef: > > Anyone else experiencing this? Haven't found any reports so far. > > Chrome & Pepper ran fine before update/upgrade a few days ago. > > Figured I'd check before I started mucking about the system trying

Re: OT: Pepper Flash Crashes Everywhere

2014-09-20 Thread Sven Hartge
Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> The newest pepperflashplugin links against GLIBC_2.14. So don't use >> the lastest version, or you need a newer glibc. > Yes, I discovered this. Wheezy uses 2.13. But why PepperFlash was > linked to the library used in Te

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Rees
Well, your experience with git and mine are quite different. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM, lee wrote: > Joel Rees writes: > [...] Let's clear the conversation, it's too cluttered for me to make sense of it any more. cd to your local copy of the repository you want to do some work in. Try t

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-20 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/20/14, lee wrote: > > What's the point of creating and attaching to your computer an > unreliable storage system which continues to give you trouble because > it's unreliable? *100% ditto* This is coming from someone operating at an extremely low income level: Buy the more expensive shtuff

Re: corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 17:07:44 +0200, roberto wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Brian wrote: > > > > Now you are in do: > > > >grub-install /dev/sda > >update-grub > > > > I did as above, no error reported and still no solution at all. > When I reboot, I get the grub prompt agai

Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 17:41:54 schrieb Hans: > > As in the other thread again, it still works here. With version patched > > 4.2. > > > > At least I can see online state of buddies after login in and it does log > > in. > > > > Ciao, > > Did you real disconnect or just close the applic

Gnomeradio silent

2014-09-20 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Hi, Are there anyone with Squeeze/Alsa with working sound in Gnomeradio? Thanks

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
> Hmmm, I see. > > I just started the application with auto login and that did still work. > > But when I logoff from within the application I cannot login again. > > There is lots of binary data in ~/.Skype. > Yes, but you can relogin using my workaround. If you are logged in again, and did

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:59:56 +0200 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as a > router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution that > is *fully* and *completely* under *my* control and *will work as is*

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
> I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as a > router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution > that is *fully* and *completely* under *my* control and *will work as is* > until *I* decide to change it. > > Maybe I just grown up with a di

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 09:14:08PM +0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:59:56 +0200 > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as > > a > > router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution >

Re: corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, roberto wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Brian wrote: > > > > Now you are in do: > > > >grub-install /dev/sda > >update-grub > > > > I did as above, no error reported and still no solution at all. > When I reboot, I get the grub prompt again... You probably

There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Cindy-Sue Causey writes: > What the person did was provide a digestible alternative for potential > peers to review. People can tear it apart verbally and/or build upon > it if they see value in what was presented.. > > That's what I imagine happening here, but I'm still "newbie" naive on > this

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-20 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I'm going to address a number of things here First off, I used to use this script [1], with an entry in /etc/rc.local to kick it off on boot. My goal was to start the RAID1 array only if 2 members could be found (minimum), I added a 3rd m

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion?

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:19:07 schrieb Hans: > > I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as > > a router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution > > that is *fully* and *completely* under *my* control and *will work as is* > > until

Re: corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 10:38:07 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, roberto wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Brian wrote: > > > > > > Now you are in do: > > > > > >grub-install /dev/sda > > >update-grub > > > > > > > I did as above, no error reported and still n

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-20 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/09/2014 4:00 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > First off, I used to use this script [1], with an entry > in /etc/rc.local to kick it off on boot. My goal was to start > the RAID1 array only if 2 members could be found (minimum), I > added a 3rd me

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks Reco, Cindy and all for useful comments. i will try all suggestion next working day and will update you accordingly. Thanks, MYK On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 9/19/14, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > > Put this into /etc/network/interfaces.d/br0 > > > >>all

Re: /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
I also apologies for my wrong posting style. actually i am not aware of what top posting is. can any of you please tell me what top posting means so that i can avoid this in future. Thanks, MYK

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: > Hi. Hi Reco, > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:59:56 +0200 > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as > > a router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution

Re: corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread roberto
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > You probably need > > grub-install --recheck /dev/sda; > update-grub; > > instead of just a normal grub-install. [If bios device ordering changes, > grub sometimes will try to load the wrong device.] > > I did: grub-install --recheck /dev/

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 20:52:35 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: > > > > http://tox.im > > > > Free software, decentralized, should do most of the things you expect > > from IM. Not in Debian main archive yet, though. > > Wow, this looks g

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 20:11:44 schrieb Brian: > On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 20:52:35 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: > > > http://tox.im > > > > > > Free software, decentralized, should do most of the things you expect > > > from IM.

Re: [OT] /etc/network/interface file auto reset.

2014-09-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 23:51:55 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > I also apologies for my wrong posting style. actually i am not aware of > what top posting is. can any of you please tell me what top posting means > so that i can avoid this in future. You reply to the mail. You write your r

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:13:43 schrieb Hans: > > Hmmm, I see. > > > > I just started the application with auto login and that did still work. > > > > But when I logoff from within the application I cannot login again. > > > > There is lots of binary data in ~/.Skype. > > Yes, but you

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
> That is no instruction I can give to my father. And you need a Skype 4.3 > binary then as well? > > I actually don´t care that much. I don´t use Skype regularily. But my father > does. And these kind of instructions are fundamentally incompatible with > him > :). Skype could be something to bri

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread Marty
On 09/19/2014 07:34 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 1:36 AM, T.J. Duchene wrote: I do not understand something that has been bugging me for a while and I'd like to ask the many minds of the list why this would not be possible, especially since Debian has some of the best Linux peop

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Brian
On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 21:22:41 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Maybe I can talk a Windows user into installing a client and try chatting > with > her :) My skype display says it has 60M+ users on line. In 10 years time that may change and there may be another killer communications applicatio

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Joel Rees writes: > Well, your experience with git and mine are quite different. > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM, lee wrote: >> Joel Rees writes: >> [...] > > Let's clear the conversation, it's too cluttered for me to make sense > of it any more. > > cd to your local copy of the repository

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 00:24:10 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Steve Litt writes: >> > >> And who knows what kind of problems you run into when you switch to >> some BSD. Are there NVIDIA drivers for some BSD? Is everything I'm >> using now available for some BSD? > > My biggest p

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Cindy-Sue Causey writes: > After going through this several times lately, I think of it this way: > $25 for a cheap part when better quality is $50. That cheap part WILL > break and usually very soon. $25 DOWN THE DRAIN, boom, just like that > when that same $25 could have gone towards that $50 p

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Steve Litt writes: > On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 15:11:50 +0200 > lee wrote: > >> Martin Read writes: >> >> > On 13/09/14 20:54, lee wrote: >> >> Can you have, say, KDE on Gentoo without systemd? "Without >> >> systemd" means *all* of systemd, like systemd-login0 etc.. >> > >> > [...] >> > >> > The b

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Hans
So, I checked out the following; The only things you need in ~/home/user/.Skype are the subfolder named as the skype-username and the "config.xml". To make it easy for your dad, you can create these files on your computer and send him both (login into skype with your dad's passwort and usernam

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, lee wrote: > These few people are also very concerned with preventing other people, > particularly users, from doing something which would contribute to > what they claim that they are doing. Exactly how are Debian Developers preventing others from contributing? Almost everyt

Where to put daemontools startup in systemd Jessie?

2014-09-20 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Right now I have the following at the bottom of my /etc/rc.local in Wheezy: csh -cf '/command/svscanboot &' How would I accomplish that same thing in systemd-equipped Jessie? Note that svscanboot is a Daemontools executable installed by make;make install, not a package, so I'll personall

Re: corrupted grub in wheezy

2014-09-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, roberto wrote: > Again, no error reported and no solutions. After rebooting I get the grub> > prompt again. What is currently in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /etc/default/grub? What is the output of: grub-install --verbose --recheck /dev/sda; ? Do you see any output from grub be

Re: brasero requires gvfs

2014-09-20 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:34:28 +0200 lee wrote: > > My biggest problem is I can't yet get qemu to run Debian or Ubuntu VMs > > on OpenBSD, for those few programs that don't run on OpenBSD. > > And you can't use xen? You're probably mistook NetBSD (which can serve as dom0 for xen) with OpenB

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 20 September 2014 21:20:15 Don Armstrong wrote: > you're actively > draining existing contributor's desire to continue working on Debian. This is what I have been so afraid of all along. All this criticism is so demoralising and demotivating. Please, Don, carry on. I for one am ver

Re: Where to put daemontools startup in systemd Jessie?

2014-09-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 04:02:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Right now I have the following at the bottom of my /etc/rc.local in > Wheezy: > > csh -cf '/command/svscanboot &' > > How would I accomplish that same thing in systemd-equipped Jessie? You need to write a .service file fo

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:42:21AM -0700, agr wrote: > I have been using Debian for almost 14 years continuosly, and i had to > transfered 1 server to OpenBSD, because the comments in this list are > uncertain; i > can not wait for Jessi to do the transition. There are problems in jessie at th

Re: Where to put daemontools startup in systemd Jessie?

2014-09-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 22:40:58 +0100 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 04:02:44PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Right now I have the following at the bottom of my /etc/rc.local in > > Wheezy: > > > > csh -cf '/command/svscanboot &' > > > > How would I accomplish th

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread agr
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:44:23PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 10:42:21AM -0700, agr wrote: > > I have been using Debian for almost 14 years continuosly, and i had to > > transfered 1 server to OpenBSD, because the comments in this list are > > uncertain; i > > can n

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:45:30 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 5:28 AM, Steve Litt > wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 21:08:45 +0400 > > Reco wrote: > > > > > >> 4) Why re-implementing systemd? Writing your own init is much more > >> fun, as [1] shows to us. > > > > What other thin

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2014 4:20 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, lee wrote: >> These few people are also very concerned with preventing other people, >> particularly users, from doing something which would contribute to >> what they claim that they are doing. > > Exactly how are Debian Developers

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 09:45:30 +0900 > Joel Rees wrote: I assume you mean >[...] >> Do we use a streamlined init, forcing interprocess communication to be >> well-defined and explicit? >>[...] > Check this out: > > http://code.dogmap.org/svscan

Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it

2014-09-20 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:43 AM, lee wrote: > Joel Rees writes: > >> Well, your experience with git and mine are quite different. >> >> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:15 PM, lee wrote: >>> Joel Rees writes: >>> [...] >> >> Let's clear the conversation, it's too cluttered for me to make sense >> of

nfs mounting

2014-09-20 Thread lee
Hi, any idea why an NFS volume is being unmounted when a VM runs out of memory and kills some processes? These processes use files on the NFS volume, but that's no reason to unmount it. Also annoying: The volume doesn't get mounted when booting despite it's in /etc/fstab. I have to log in into

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > It seems the developers make the decisions and users feel left out. > What we want does not seem to matter. There are positive methods of influencing the decisions that Debian makes and negative methods. Positive methods include: 1) filing accurate bug

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/20/2014 9:51 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> It seems the developers make the decisions and users feel left out. >> What we want does not seem to matter. > > There are positive methods of influencing the decisions that Debian > makes and negative method

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 09/20/2014 04:20 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, lee wrote: These few people are also very concerned with preventing other people, particularly users, from doing something which would contribute to what they claim that they are doing. Exactly how are Debian Developers preventin

Re: i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-20 Thread green
lee wrote at 2014-09-20 13:34 -0500: > There's also i3, if you can live with a tiling WM that doesn't support > sticky floating windows yet. I enjoy using i3. What is this "sticky floating windows" feature that I am missing? After searching, it seems to be almost the same as i3's "scratchpad" fe

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:48:19 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 9/20/2014 4:20 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, lee wrote: > >> These few people are also very concerned with preventing other > >> people, particularly users, from doing something which would > >> contribute to what th

Re: qemu on OpenBSD (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-20 Thread green
Reco wrote at 2014-09-20 15:35 -0500: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 20:34:28 +0200 lee wrote: > > > My biggest problem is I can't yet get qemu to run Debian or Ubuntu VMs > > > on OpenBSD, for those few programs that don't run on OpenBSD. > > > > And you can't use xen? > > You're probably mistook NetBSD

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