Linux-Fan <ma_sys...@web.de> writes: > On 09/14/2014 04:33 PM, lee wrote: >> Linux-Fan <ma_sys...@web.de> writes: >> >>>> On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >>> >>> or even buy some additional drives (I know that it is often said that >>> "today drives are cheap" but for me being comparatively new to >>> computing, 60€ are still much for a HDD) >> >> Where do you get good 2TB+ drives for only EUR 60? > > In fact, I don't. That was a thoughtless aestimate and I wanted to avoid > posting a price which is more than one can currently get disks for as > this could have resulted in someone posting "you are lying, you do not > even need to pay 80€, here is one for 74€" or such.
ah, ok :) Now you got ppl saying that you can't buy a good 2TB for only EUR 60 instead :)) > > I do not know, if you consider them "good", but here is one for 71€ > > http://www.reichelt.de/Interne-Festplatten-8-89cm-3-5-SATA/ST2000DM001/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=121092&GROUPID=6136&artnr=ST2000DM001 Dunno, I don't buy disks anymore that aren't rated for 24/7 operation and don't support TLER. If you're simply looking for much capacity and low price, it might be a good choice. Other than that, in my experience Seagate disks my have an unusually high failure rate. >>>> Goodness, an HP Microserver fully made and ready for four drives costs >>>> about twice the cost >>>> of a 4TB internal drive. >> >> +1 >> >> These also have ECC RAM, and when a 2TB RAID-1 is enough for you, you >> can as well buy one of those instead of a SAS/SATA controller or a port >> multiplier. IIRC, they consume only about 30W, so you can probably >> connect it to your existing UPS. You can offload services to it and >> leave it running. > > I do not have a separate room to put the server into to avoid the noise They are probably so quiet that this won't be an issue. Did you look at some pictures and/or videos? IIRC, being quiet is one of the reasons why people love them so much. 19" servers _are_ loud, though. > and do not like the idea of running a server all the time to only > provide storage for a single system (which is not always online). Well, you can always shut it down when it isn't needed --- and IIRC you didn't want to do that. In that case, you're looking at buying a port multiplier or a controller card. If you want to buy a controller, check out the HP smart array ones, preferably the 410. > Although that is a better long-term solution (which I will likely follow > the next time any storage is to be added), I think I will stay with what > I have now and see how it performs. USB disks? Come one, you can't be bothered with shutting down a server but you want to waste your time with USB disks and their unreliability? How does that make sense? And you're going to go that way anyway sooner or later, so why waste your money now rather than going that way to begin with and enjoying all the benefits now? >> Only "problem" is that you're going to like the SAS disks and find out >> how terribly slow your USB disks are ;) > > The same "problem" has already occurred when I used a "business"-class > computer for the first time -- I will never buy a "consumer"-class model > again... :) What's "a business class computer"? I've come to tend to buy used server class hardware whenever it's suitable, based on the experience that the quality is much better than otherwise, on the assumption that it'll be more reliable and because there isn't any better for the money. So far, performance is also stunning. This stuff is really a bargain. I like stuff that just works, and I wouldn't even dream of messing with USB disks for storage but buy an HP Microserver instead. What you're trying with these USB disks is a waste: Even when it's not the money, as in "amount of <currency unit>", it's also the amount of trouble you're getting into and the problems you encounter, which all costs time and nerves and creates downtime --- not to mention losing your data eventually. -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87wq8ymjcz....@yun.yagibdah.de
