Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal > window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in > xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gnome

Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Marc Shapiro
I have been reading a lot of posts (here and in devel) about the upcoming change to Systemd as the default init system in Jessie. I came acrosss a post along the wasy that mentioned a debug option that would open a root shell in vt9. This could cause a problem for me as I always have an X ses

Re: GPT and SSDs

2014-05-21 Thread Efraim Flashner
On Mon, 19 May 2014 12:19:47 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > On 19/05/14 09:04 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 19 May 2014, Gary Dale wrote: > >> This led me into partitioning. I thought that GPT pretty much gave > >> you proper partition alignment, but now I think I was mistaken on >

GUI

2014-05-21 Thread Divya Subramanian
I want to create a GUI, in which, on clicking applications menu, it must show the installed apps in a grid view. Can anyone help me ? Regards, Divya Subramanian

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 11:57:29 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be > available in xfce, is it like a layer on the top of gno

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the system however it again gave me the gnome 3 desktop. On Wed, May 21,

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 07:54, "Muhammad Yousuf Khan" :i have just installed debian 7 and i am feeling a bit uncomfortable with the new look ("unity" type) i want the all time old menu "gnome classic". how can i enable that.Thanks,Myk  Log out and choose Gnome Classic from the GDM drop down menu.  -- David Dus

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted > to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to > evaluate which one is better for me. > btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the s

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread David Dušanić
21.05.2014, 10:00, "Muhammad Yousuf Khan" :do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. btw i installed xfce4 and restarted the system however it again gave

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:47 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > do i have to uninstall gnome3 in order to work with xfce4 actually i > wanted to run both by enabling one and disabiling other for testing > puporse or to evaluate which one is better for me. > btw i installed xfce4 and restarted th

Re: Debian 5 -- "data" is plural.

2014-05-21 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 20 May 2014, Weaver wrote: [snip] > This is only currently in the context of scientific literature and even > perhaps dying out in that context, over time, also. > > It descends from English language inheritance of Latin language > terminology, and the English language is moving on, as langu

Re: GUI

2014-05-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0530, Divya Subramanian wrote: >I want to create a GUI, in which, on clicking applications menu, it must >show the installed apps in a grid view. > >Can anyone help me ? First of all, create the application in your favourite programming language. Pe

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
Thanks Joe, David , Chirs and all . actually login screen step worked for me. even i am also trying xfce4. can i make gnome classic default loging environment? Thanks On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 13:00:47 +0500 > Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > > do i ha

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Tue, 20 May 2014 23:53:04 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: > I have been reading a lot of posts (here and in devel) about the > upcoming change to Systemd as the default init system in Jessie. I > came acrosss a post along the wasy that mentioned a debug option that > would open a root shell in vt9

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly terminal > window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > so my question is, are all the applications from gnome will be available in > xfce, is it like a layer on the top o

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > So can anyone who is actually using Systemd now (I am still on Wheezy, BTW) > tell me if this is going to be an issue for me? Can I do this once my box > has been converted to Systemd? What about that root login on vt9? Don't con

Re: Off-topic posting (was Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management)

2014-05-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Calm down folks :)! A lot of us are subscribed to both lists, so there wouldn't be less traffic for us, OTOH its easy to use the OT list when already subscribed, since seemingly some are annoyed by the long threads about "digital politics". Consider to continue at http://lists.alioth.debian.org/m

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 21:49:06 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > > > > So can anyone who is actually using Systemd now (I am still on > > Wheezy, BTW) tell me if this is going to be an issue for me? Can I > > do this once my box has bee

Re: Accelerated driver for Intel video driver?

2014-05-21 Thread Pertti Kosunen
On 21.5.2014 2:43, Brad Alexander wrote: I apologize, I thought I had specified, the machine in question is running a relatively recent version of sid. I have not been upgrading as much until some of this chaos with systemd settles down. You can upgrade safely, systemd will not replace already

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/21/14, Filip wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 21:49:06 +1200 > Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: >> > So can anyone who is actually using Systemd now (I am still on >> > Wheezy, BTW) tell me if this is going to be an issue for me? Can I >> >

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 20:47:25 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > The closer to stock-standard install you are, the easier _should_ be > your upgrade to systemd init. If it's already happened, and > everything's running for you, you're gold! Nothing to worry about now > :) > > Enjoy your faster reboo

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Ter, 20 Mai 2014, David Guntner wrote: PLEASE, for the love of $DEITY and to have some compassion for the people who are on this list because they want to discuss and read things pertaining to the Debian OS without drowning in so much off-topic noise that the list is becoming rendered useless

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > > so my question is, are all the applications from

Re: Off-topic posting (was Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management)

2014-05-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 12:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Consider to continue at > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic > just to do those a favour, who guess those threads don't belong to > Debian user, regardless of whether they're right or wrong. Respect to Zenaa

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Charlie
On Wed, 21 May 2014 14:05:55 +0200 Filip sent: > I had the opposite reaction. I didn't instantly dislike it when it > came it, and thought that the detractors where just too close minded > to try out new improved interface concepts. After having used it for > one and a half years however, I have g

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/21/14, Filip wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >> > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly >> > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. >> > so my question i

problems with ntp syncronization in wheezy

2014-05-21 Thread Leonardo Cuyar Morales
I just installed debian wheezy amd64. After having set ntp configurations in /etc/default/ntpdate file, like: - set the ntp server - do not read /etc/ntp.conf file the same configuration I did in squeeze, my result was wheezy does not get sincronized either. Have you had any experience with nt

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Filip
On Wed, 21 May 2014 22:31:18 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 5/21/14, Filip wrote: > > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > > Stephen Allen wrote: > >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan > >> wrote: > >> > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mos

Re: persistent-net.rules for fixed ethX names and VLANs

2014-05-21 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, this is a reply to an very old posting just to tell the solution to the mailing list archives. Problem was that Micrel Driver does net set DRIVER name. Here a patch. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013, Steffe

udevd and persistent network rules for USB NICs

2014-05-21 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, I have a device with several internal mini PCIe card slots usable for PCI Express mini modem cards (UMTS, LTE...). These cards normally are USB cards and get some ethX device name assigned by Linux, which I don't like. Instead, they should get another name, for example usb-ethX. Is it possibl

Re: Debian 5 -- "data" is plural.

2014-05-21 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-05-21 04:23, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 20 May 2014, Weaver wrote: > > [snip] > Pedantic or not, I'd never treat data or media as singular. An > still worse usage, which I find even with some scientific speakers, > is to use bacteria as sin

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 12:47:25PM CEST, Zenaan Harkness said: > On 5/21/14, Filip wrote: > > On Wed, 21 May 2014 21:49:06 +1200 > > Chris Bannister wrote: > >> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > >> > So can anyone who is actually using Systemd now (I am still on >

Icedove and Thunderbird

2014-05-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg
Dear List - I installed Icedove and cannot get the desktop icon to work. I would get a pop up asking me if I wanted to 1]open in terminal 2] view or 3] run. When I clicked view there was a message that it required a XFCE panel. I surely do NOT want XFCE as a desktop manager. If there is a w

Re: Off-topic posting (was Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management)

2014-05-21 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-21, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Elis Regina & Tom Jobim- Waters of March (Portuguese version) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3oNSFQVzNM&list=RDg3oNSFQVzNM#t=31 > > Tom Jobim - The Girl from Ipanema (Portuguese version) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJzBxJ8ExRk > With Frank: http:/

Re: Systemd and vt9

2014-05-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Hi, On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:53:04PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Yes, there are three X sessions always running on my system. Mine, > my wife's and my daughter's. All it takes is a Ctl-Alt-Fx to switch > between sessions so there is no need for all three of us to use a > single X session, or

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Chris Angelico To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: debian Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. I recommend installing Xfce, which is very similar to GNOME 2 (and also happens to be fairly comfortable for someone coming from

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Chris Angelico
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: > Does xfce come with a lot of bloated apps? I remember that gnome-core comes > with plenty of bloated apps. I don't know that it does. A default Debian Jessie install brings with it a bunch of stuff like LibreOffice, but I don't think Xfce

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Joe To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. In Linux, a window manager will operate without a desktop environment, but this is a little too minimalist for me. Su

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread John Bleichert
On 05/21/2014 11:16 AM, Horatio Leragon wrote: *From:* Chris Angelico *To:* debian-user@lists.debian.org *Cc:* debian *Sent:* Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:30 PM *Subject:* Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. I recommend installing Xfce, which is very similar to GNOME 2 (and also h

Debian installer does not show partitions on my disk.

2014-05-21 Thread Gaëtan Herfray
Hello, I'm trying to install Debian on my laptop (Asus N550JV) with Dual-Boot with Windows 8.1. I have tried those two options: 1/ Install Windows 8.1, then install Debian. In that case, I can find my SSD hard drive in Debian, but it is not showing my partitions. (it is only showing free space)

Torrents Debian 7.5 Fails

2014-05-21 Thread Martin Noblía
Hi, torrent client not work or torrent broken?

Re: Icedove and Thunderbird

2014-05-21 Thread Martin Read
On 21/05/14 15:42, Ethan Rosenberg wrote: I installed Icedove and cannot get the desktop icon to work. I would get a pop up asking me if I wanted to 1]open in terminal 2] view or 3] run. When I clicked view there was a message that it required a XFCE panel. I surely do NOT want XFCE as a desktop

Re: Torrents Debian 7.5 Fails

2014-05-21 Thread Gaëtan Herfray
I have downloaded it through http website and I'm currently sharing it on torrent network. May you retry it ? On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Martin Noblía wrote: > Hi, torrent client not work or torrent broken? > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Torrents Debian 7.5 Fails

2014-05-21 Thread Mr. Queue
On 5/21/2014 11:52 AM, Martin Noblía wrote: > Hi, torrent client not work or torrent broken? Seems they didn't make the update. File a bug report if you must have it or go grab Knoppix to finish your maintenance. I just tried to start all the 7.5 live ISO's and non of them are working. -- To UN

Re: MTP support in Jessie fails

2014-05-21 Thread Andreas Weber
On 2014-05-20 07:11, Carl Fink wrote: > The Media Transfer Protocol is not working correctly on my Jessie system, > updated yesterday. Here's a transcript of syslog when I plug in my > MTP-enabled phone: MTP is "not working so well" under Linux IMHO. > Any suggestions? If I don't find a solution

Re: Debian 5 -- is going back to Roman Empire

2014-05-21 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 10:03 -0400, Ken Heard wrote: > On 2014-05-21 04:23, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > On 20 May 2014, Weaver wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > Pedantic or not, I'd never treat data or media as singular. An > > still worse usage, which I find even with some scientific speakers, > > is t

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Linux-Fan
On 05/21/2014 05:20 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: > From: Joe > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. > > In Linux, a window manager will operate without a desktop environment, > but this is a little too m

Re: Debian 5 -- is going back to Roman Empire

2014-05-21 Thread John Hasler
André Nunes Batista writes: > But your despise will be here for the record... "Despise"? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: ht

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-05-21 at 20:51 +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > On 05/21/2014 05:20 PM, Horatio Leragon wrote: > > From: Joe > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 3:58 PM > > Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. > > > > In Linux, a window manager will o

Re: Off-topic posting (was Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management)

2014-05-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 5/21/2014 1:37 AM, Bob Holtzman wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 08:12:36PM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/20/2014 5:05 PM, David Guntner wrote: ..large snip. I've been using the internet since the 80's, and yes, I'm perfectly capable of kill-filing those topics

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > > terminal window. i am new to gnome and xfce. > > so my question is, are all the applications from

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Stephen Allen
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:12:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > Stephen Allen wrote: > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > > thanks alot guyz, i am actually a server side guy using mostly > > > terminal window. i am new to gnom

Re: Icedove and Thunderbird

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 10:42:32 -0400 Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > Dear List - > > I installed Icedove and cannot get the desktop icon to work. I would > get a pop up asking me if I wanted to 1]open in terminal 2] view or > 3] run. When I clicked view there was a message that it required a > XFCE pan

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread John Bleichert
On 05/21/2014 05:25 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: I mentioned LXDE, but shutdown and reboot from menus haven't worked since November (sid), as there seems to be a systemd incompatibility. I got fed up calling up a terminal and entering a password to shutdown my single-user workstation after a coupl

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 May 2014 17:25:41 -0400 Stephen Allen wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:12:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Wed, 21 May 2014 05:52:18 -0400 > > Stephen Allen wrote: > > > > > On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:57:29AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan > > > wrote: > > > > thanks alot guyz, i am act

Re: Icedove and Thunderbird

2014-05-21 Thread Gary Dale
On 21/05/14 05:36 PM, Joe wrote: On Wed, 21 May 2014 10:42:32 -0400 Ethan Rosenberg wrote: Dear List - I installed Icedove and cannot get the desktop icon to work. I would get a pop up asking me if I wanted to 1]open in terminal 2] view or 3] run. When I clicked view there was a message that

Re: problems with ntp syncronization in wheezy

2014-05-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140521_0849-0400, Leonardo Cuyar Morales wrote: > I just installed debian wheezy amd64. After having set ntp configurations in > /etc/default/ntpdate file, like: > > - set the ntp server > - do not read /etc/ntp.conf file > > the same configuration I did in squeeze, my result was wheezy doe

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: John Bleichert To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:24 PM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. No, it's pretty clean and very, very slim. Someone mentioned that it hasn't seen an update in a while but

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Linux-Fan To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:51 AM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. Just like any other package. # aptitude install fluxbox The very machine from which I am writing this, does not

Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

2014-05-21 Thread Horatio Leragon
From: Ralf Mardorf To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:06 AM Subject: Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode. However, the version of JWM provided by the Debian repositories is already very, very, very good. Can I insta

Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?

2014-05-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Klaus writes: > The server (mail.messagingengine.com) doesn't respond to ping nor to an > attempt at connecting through port 25 right now (20/5/2014, 13:30 GMT) > > $ swaks -s mail.messagingengine.com -q FIRST-HELO > === Trying mail.messagingengine.com:25... > ^C (manually aborted after a minute