Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/05/14 16:19, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > Hi all, > > A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with > "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. > > Know playing with several distributions, some use "service", "sysctl", > "systemctl", and some of them are mention

Re: Help About Bootable USB

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/05/14 16:16, morteza allahpour wrote: > /Hello,I have 3 debian DVD images.I want to run debian from a bootable > usb flash.now what should i do ?/ > /wich DVD image I must use ?/ Just to be clear, you want to install Debian on the USB flash drive, *not* install Debian on the computer *from*

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-09 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:24:13 +1000 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 09/05/14 16:19, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with > > "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. > > > > Know playing with several distributions,

Re: Hijack: was Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread Joe
On Fri, 9 May 2014 02:39:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 08 May 2014 14:18:49 -0400 > Ric Moore wrote: > > > On 05/08/2014 02:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Thu, 08 May 2014 16:31:03 +0930 > > > josh wrote: > > [big clip] > > > >> And narrowing the terms > > >> may just have excluded

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-09 Thread Filip
On Fri, 09 May 2014 17:24:13 +1000 Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 09/05/14 16:19, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed > > with "invoke-rc.d" ... And starting/stopping is one thing, but especially confusing is, how do

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-09 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Scott Ferguson writes: > On 09/05/14 16:19, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with >> "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. >> >> Know playing with several distributions, some use "service", "sysctl", >> "system

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-09 Thread Filip
On Fri, 9 May 2014 10:22:36 +0200 Filip wrote: > If insserv -r removes the link, is there a chance will it get silently > recreated when dpkg updates or reinstalls the package ? That would be > one reason not to use it. So, I did a test. insserv -r does delete the link in all runlevels. And a s

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 09/05/14 18:43, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > Scott Ferguson writes: > >> On 09/05/14 16:19, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with >>> "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. >>> >>> Know playing with several distr

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 09 mai 14, 09:19:55, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > Hi all, > > A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with > "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. > > Know playing with several distributions, some use "service", "sysctl", > "systemctl", and some of them ar

LVM replication between two computers

2014-05-09 Thread André Rodier
Hello all, I have a Debian Wheezy based virtualizer, with software raid properly configured :-) I would like to try DRBD/GFS2 clustering, on top of an LVM, using this link: http://www.drbd.org/users-guide/s-lvm-lv-as-drbd-backing-dev.html So far, the logical stack would be like this: 2 - G

How to go back to sysvinit (was: Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-09 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, On 05/09/2014 12:35, Svante Signell wrote: > Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot > when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should > be reported. How to go back to sysvinit? Please ask on one of the support mailing lists (CC'ed). > Ins

Re: Is it safe not to install intel-microcode (or amd-microcode)?

2014-05-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
A Debian User: > > I want to have a completely Free install of Debian, which means I > will only be using software packages from the main repo, and will be > excluding contrib and non-free from my sources file. > > By doing so, I won't be able to install the microcode updates for my > computer's

Re: LVM replication between two computers

2014-05-09 Thread Denis Witt
On Fri, 09 May 2014 12:14:50 +0100 André Rodier wrote: > 1) At the moment, I have only one computer available, so is it > possible to start a DRBD cluster with only one computer, and add a > second computer later. Yes, but you can't test certain things. What you can do is to set up Xen on your M

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

2014-05-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 5/8/2014 2:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > >> Especially when viewed in the light that a Linux desktop, and the Xorg >> system sits on top of a Linux server. >> > > Not on *mine* they don't. Anyone who puts Xorg on a linux server (unless > maybe it

Re: LVM replication between two computers

2014-05-09 Thread André Rodier
On 2014-05-09 13:15, Denis Witt wrote: On Fri, 09 May 2014 12:14:50 +0100 André Rodier wrote: 1) At the moment, I have only one computer available, so is it possible to start a DRBD cluster with only one computer, and add a second computer later. Yes, but you can't test certain things. What

Re: Is it safe not to install intel-microcode (or amd-microcode)?

2014-05-09 Thread Артур Истомин
On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 02:16:21AM +0800, A Debian User wrote: > Hello, all! > > I want to have a completely Free install of Debian, which means I will only > be using software packages from the main repo, and will be excluding contrib > and non-free from my sources file. > > By doing so, I won't

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Copper
I've run Debian servers for a number of years. When faced with a problem, Google almost always gets me where I need to go. But that *almost* is crucial. There are smart people on this list who are generous with their time. OP would be wise to subscribe and learn to deal with the traffic. 2 cen

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Copper
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> >>> On 5/8/2014 2:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote: Especially when viewed in the light that a Linux desktop, and the Xorg system sits on top of a Linux server. >>> >>> >>> Not on *min

Debian 7.5 fails with kernel.org backports

2014-05-09 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, after upgrading to Debian 7.5 (linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common), backports 3.10.2 [1] does not compile anymore [2]. Without it, I have issues with Antheros WLAN cards. Does Debian 7.5 include another backported versions? Can it be removed and replaced by "official" backports 3.10.2 from [1]? It

Using vagrant and virtualbox

2014-05-09 Thread Dale Harris
I always seem to have problems using vagrant and virtualbox, and I largely think my problems are because vagrant is poorly designed with how it manages it's boxes, on Debian. My host system is running Debian/Sid, just in case you're wondering how this relates to Debian. Now, I'll admit, I may just

Re: Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread John W. Foster
On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 16:31 +0930, josh wrote: > Hi, > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the > Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of help > available and b. directed to a maze of mailing lists where any search > immediately returns a

Re: How to go back to sysvinit (was: Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-09 Thread filip
On Fri, 09 May 2014 13:09:24 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > > > Installed packages: > > ii libpam-systemd:amd64 204-10 > > ii libsystemd-daemon0:amd64 204-10 > > ii libsystemd-id128-0:amd64 204-10 > > ii libsystemd-journal0:amd64 204-10

Network Manager doesn't pick up network.

2014-05-09 Thread Ed Jabbour
Running stable, kde and network-manager-gnome. The modem/router provides two wireless network options - one 2.4 GHz, the other 5. However, net/mgr only picks up the 2.4 - the 5 doesn't show at all. I thought maybe the 5 signal wasn't strong enough, so I moved the laptop right next to the mod

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

2014-05-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-09, Mark Copper wrote: > I've run Debian servers for a number of years. When faced with a > problem, Google almost always gets me where I need to go. > So you're not using a "google" in which the information not pertinent to the needs of Mark Cooper is filtered away, and filter it aw

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

2014-05-09 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 03:42:20PM +, Curt wrote: > So you're not using a "google" in which the information not pertinent > to the needs of Mark Cooper is filtered away, and filter it away > yourself somehow, perhaps by means of your intelligence? > Come on, the guy had a question and he rec

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

2014-05-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-09, Francesco Ariis wrote: > On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 03:42:20PM +, Curt wrote: >> So you're not using a "google" in which the information not pertinent >> to the needs of Mark Cooper is filtered away, and filter it away >> yourself somehow, perhaps by means of your intelligence? >>

Re: Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:54:04 -0500 "John W. Foster" wrote: > On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 16:31 +0930, josh wrote: > > Hi, > > > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to [clip] > > Am I missing something obvious here? > > > > Regards, > > > > Josh. > > Well I'm gonna

Re: Network Manager doesn't pick up network.

2014-05-09 Thread staticsafe
On 5/9/2014 11:28, Ed Jabbour wrote: > Running stable, kde and network-manager-gnome. The modem/router > provides two wireless network options - one 2.4 GHz, the other 5. > However, net/mgr only picks up the 2.4 - the 5 doesn't show at all. I > thought maybe the 5 signal wasn't strong enough,

Re: Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-09, Steve Litt wrote: >> Well I'm gonna ask the obvious: >> Did you burn it as a ".iso file" or did you burn it as an image, >> which is what should have been done. Hope this helps, as Ive made >> than error before my self. john > > Hi John, > > Apparently, so have I, because I've thou

Re: Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread Joe
On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:54:04 -0500 "John W. Foster" wrote: > > Well I'm gonna ask the obvious: > Did you burn it as a ".iso file" or did you burn it as an image, > which is what should have been done. Hope this helps, as Ive made > than error before my self. john > > That was my first thought

Re: Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread John W. Foster
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 12:13 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:54:04 -0500 > "John W. Foster" wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 16:31 +0930, josh wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to > > [clip] > > > > Am I missing so

Re: Help About Bootable USB

2014-05-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-09, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > If so:- > 1. do a little research and plan what you want to install - desktop, > server, mixture. Will it be portable or only run on this one computer? > Which desktop do you want to install? How will it connect to the > internet - if that's important, wha

Re: Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 1:13 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:54:04 -0500 > "John W. Foster" wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 16:31 +0930, josh wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to > > [clip] > > > > Am I missing something

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 08 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > Next, I don't agree that this hyperthreading problem reeks of a > firmware issue. What it reeks of is a linux kernel issue. I'm not Well, it reeks of bad interaction of Linux and the firmware, which *usually* is caused by bad firmware when an Intel deskto

Re: Confusion

2014-05-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-08, Glenn English wrote: > > On May 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Testosticore > wrote: > >> I hope you get to solve that CD problem soon. >> >> As said earlier, it may be that the CD ISOs you downloaded were corrupted in >> the process of downloading. > > You might try: > > https://www.deb

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Ausbeck
Henrique, thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I will look at the stuff that you suggested, if only to learn about what I don't know. FYI, the problem doesn't seem related to temperature to me. I'm not ruling it out, I'm just saying it doesn't have that feel. I look at it like this. hdparm sa

Re: Help About Bootable USB

2014-05-09 Thread A Debian User
On Friday, 09 May, 2014 02:16 PM, morteza allahpour wrote: /Hello,I have 3 debian DVD images.I want to run debian from a bootable usb flash.now what should i do ?/ /wich DVD image I must use ?/ The first one :)

Hibernate doesn't work (Wheezy, GNOME Shell)

2014-05-09 Thread A Debian User
Hello all! When I click on the "account menu" on the upper left and click on Hibernate, the screen just goes blank. It stays blank for ages. The backlight of the LCD is still turned on. The LEDs on the laptop are still active. Doesn't respond to shortcut keys, like Ctrl+Alt+Del, etc. Doesn

How to use Debian ISOs as package sources in apt?

2014-05-09 Thread A Debian User
On Friday, 09 May, 2014 03:39 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: Most of what you will want to install (statistically speaking) is on the first [Debian] DVD. Everything you need to later install from the other DVDs is on the first DVD. You can always install packages from the other DVDs just using the

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 09 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > Henrique, thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I will look at the > stuff that you suggested, if only to learn about what I don't know. > > FYI, the problem doesn't seem related to temperature to me. I'm not > ruling it out, I'm just saying it doesn't hav

Re: Problems getting Debian DVD to work (Re: Confusion)

2014-05-09 Thread Testosticore
On Saturday, 10 May, 2014 12:13 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:54:04 -0500 "John W. Foster" wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 16:31 +0930, josh wrote: Hi, When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to [clip] Am I missing something obvious here? Regards, Jo

Re: Re: Is it safe not to install intel-microcode (or amd-microcode)?

2014-05-09 Thread A Debian User
On Friday, 09 May, 2014 02:54 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 05/08/2014 02:16 PM, A Debian User wrote: Hello, all! I want to have a completely Free install of Debian, which means I will only be using software packages from the main repo, and will be excluding contrib and non-free from my sources file

Re: Is it safe not to install intel-microcode (or amd-microcode)?

2014-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 10 May 2014, A Debian User wrote: > Thanks for the response, but my question comes more from a security > perspective: Does ignoring CPU microcode updates make your computer > more or less vulnerable in general? More vulnerable if it is anything with the Core microarchitecture and your BIO

Re: Is it safe not to install intel-microcode (or amd-microcode)?

2014-05-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 5/9/2014 5:56 PM, A Debian User wrote: On Friday, 09 May, 2014 02:54 AM, Ric Moore wrote: On 05/08/2014 02:16 PM, A Debian User wrote: Hello, all! I want to have a completely Free install of Debian, which means I will only be using software packages from the main repo, and will be excludin

Re: Problems getting Debian DVD to work (Re: Confusion)

2014-05-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 10 May 2014 05:44:11 +0800 Testosticore wrote: > > On Saturday, 10 May, 2014 12:13 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:54:04 -0500 > > "John W. Foster" wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 16:31 +0930, josh wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> When one has a problem with any GNU/L

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Ausbeck
I've actually done dummy file reads and writes previously. Well actually just writes. And they go at full speed, no matter what hparm says. For example, your example, works at full speed: dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=10M count=100 ; I've tried the analogous read: dd of=/dev/null if=somefile

Re: Problems getting Debian DVD to work (Re: Confusion)

2014-05-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 5/9/2014 7:50 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 10 May 2014 05:44:11 +0800 Testosticore wrote: On Saturday, 10 May, 2014 12:13 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:54:04 -0500 "John W. Foster" wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 16:31 +0930, josh wrote: Hi, When one has a problem with a

Re: Network Manager doesn't pick up network.

2014-05-09 Thread Ed Jabbour
On Friday, May 09, 2014 12:47:45 PM staticsafe wrote: > On 5/9/2014 11:28, Ed Jabbour wrote: > > Running stable, kde and network-manager-gnome. The modem/router > > provides two wireless network options - one 2.4 GHz, the other 5. > > However, net/mgr only picks up the 2.4 - the 5 doesn't show at

Re: How to use Debian ISOs as package sources in apt?

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/05/14 07:36, A Debian User wrote: > > On Friday, 09 May, 2014 03:39 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> Most of what you will want to install (statistically speaking) is on >> the first [Debian] DVD. Everything you need to later install from the >> other DVDs is on the first DVD. You can always ins

Re: Problems getting Debian DVD to work (Re: Confusion)

2014-05-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > [...] > At this point, I think we should all forget I asked that question, > because neither your explanation nor Joel Rees' explanation caused me > to understand this distinction, and yet: > Saying this kind of thing to a guy like me is just l

Re: Hibernate doesn't work (Wheezy, GNOME Shell)

2014-05-09 Thread Filip
On Sat, 10 May 2014 05:25:03 +0800 A Debian User wrote: > Hello all! > > When I click on the "account menu" on the upper left and click on > Hibernate, the screen just goes blank. It stays blank for ages. > Does it work when you run 'hibernate' from a shell prompt ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai