On Sat, May 03, 2014 at 08:48:38PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Despite 800M of sid updates (since my last update), and dozens
> (probably 100s) of package updates, and I only have TWO, 2 or
> otherwise known as 1+1, namely (ii) or (II) (that's one less than 3)
> changelog entries to read.
>
>
On 20140503_1219-0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>.snip.
> >
> > tasks-xfce-desktop is a meta package that includes xfce, and also a set
> > of additional packages that are typically used on a desktop system,
> > like libreoffice and iceweasel.
>
> Those packages should be p
On 20140502_1155+0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 02 mai 14, 15:58:00, Bret Busby wrote:
> >
> > What I am wondering, is whether the Debian 7.5 installation disks, include
> > the option during the installation process, for the user to select which
> > desktop environment(s) the user wants to
I have a customer who needs to get a server back up and running. I don't
know to many details except they're getting a "No Hard Disk" error on
boot. If you're interested, please email me directly at robowens 13 at
gmail dot com.
-Rob
Hi Paul,
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 07:54 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I want a new "task-jwm-desktop" to be written.
JWM isn't a desktop environment, it's a window manager only. To provide
such a meta package for JWM would be more controversy, than it already
is for Xfce. For example, Xfce has got i
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 17:33 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 07:54 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I want a new "task-jwm-desktop" to be written.
>
> JWM isn't a desktop environment, it's a window manager only. To provide
> such a meta package for JWM would be more
On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 17:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I don't want to decide what "sane" default software for JWM usage could
> be. Some people want to get something close to a bloated DE, other's
> want to be closer to a tiling window manager when using JWM.
PPS: I want to get something in the
On Tuesday, 06 May, 2014 09:11 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
It seems that some folks at Debian have introduced NSA-friendly
software to spy on users.
Produce specifics.
On Monday, 05 May, 2014 08:13 AM, A Debian User wrote:
From the package description of zeitgeist or
Have you seen that:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gjkivAf3
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> Have you seen that:
>
> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gjkivAf3
>
More info:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7701208
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François Patte wrote:
Bonjour,
I would like to boot in console mode from the grub screen (ie not in
graphic mode), but I don't want to be in single user mode, ie.: I want
to have a "normal boot" without X.
I can't find any tuto for grub2 installed on my system.
Thank you.
from /etc/default/g
> - Original Message -
> From: John Hasler
> Sent: 05/06/14 09:11 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
>
> Produce specifics.
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Didn't you know that all NSA contractors, including ex-employee
> - Original Message -
> From: A Debian User
> Sent: 05/06/14 09:42 AM
> To: filip, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
> So, have you removed it completely from your system, or did you just disable
> it? How does it break functionality on your end?
I r
> - Original Message -
> From: A Debian User
> Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM
> To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
> Unintentional data leakage? Script kiddies, marketers, spammers, ad networks?
With NSA, nothing is unintentional.
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On 20140506_1820+0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-05-06 at 17:56 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > I don't want to decide what "sane" default software for JWM usage could
> > be. Some people want to get something close to a bloated DE, other's
> > want to be closer to a tiling window manager w
On Tue 06 May 2014 at 07:54:58 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> This post is being composed well after a great tree of responses to OP
> have accumulated. In these, as well as in other posts about DE in
> Debian I have seen mentioned the JWM environment. It is interesting to
> me, but I am aware that
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
> Did you know that Linus Torvalds had to include some NSA-friendly code
> (a.k.a. backdoors) in his Linux OS?
Version, file name, line number.
BTW do you know the meaning of the word "libel"?
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On 2014-05-05, Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> The ideal list contains only traffic relating to problems you have,
> problems you are likely to have in the future, and useful things that
> you can try that will solve problems you didn't know you have.
That's no list, that's my mother.
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On 05/06/2014 02:36 PM, A Debian User wrote:
On Tuesday, 06 May, 2014 09:11 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
It seems that some folks at Debian have introduced NSA-friendly
software to spy on users.
Produce specifics.
On Monday, 05 May, 2014 08:13 AM, A Debian User wrote:
On 20140506_1525-0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
> > Did you know that Linus Torvalds had to include some NSA-friendly code
> > (a.k.a. backdoors) in his Linux OS?
>
> Version, file name, line number.
>
> BTW do you know the meaning of the word "libel"?
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On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 5 May 2014 12:38:57 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> On Lu, 05 mai 14, 04:58:14, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:29 AM, François Patte
>>> wrote:
I would like to boot in console mode from the grub screen (ie not
in
Will you people please take this crap off-list?
Patrick
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 5:32 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20140506_1525-0500, John Hasler wrote:
>> Theodore Alcapotaxis writes:
>> > Did you know that Linus Torvalds had to include some NSA-friendly code
>> > (a.k.a. backdoors) in his Linu
On Tue, 06 May 2014 12:39:03 -0500
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> François Patte wrote:
> > Bonjour,
> >
> > I would like to boot in console mode from the grub screen (ie not in
> > graphic mode), but I don't want to be in single user mode, ie.: I
> > want to have a "normal boot" without X.
> >
> > I
To the original question, for server-only stuff, there is the debian-isp
list; but in practice, this is where everyone is, and where all the
questions get answered.
Miles Fidelman
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On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> François Patte wrote:
>>
>> I would like to boot in console mode from the grub screen (ie not in
>> graphic mode), but I don't want to be in single user mode, ie.: I want
>> to have a "normal boot" without X.
>>
>> I can't find any tuto for
On 20140506_1554-0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: John Hasler
> > Sent: 05/06/14 09:11 AM
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
> >
> >
> > Produce specifics.
> > --
> > John Hasler
> > jhas...@newsguy.com
> > Elmwoo
On May 6, 2014, at 3:59 PM, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
>> François Patte wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to boot in console mode from the grub screen (ie not in
>>> graphic mode), but I don't want to be in single user mode, ie.: I want
>>> to have a "norm
I'm running Debian jessie/sid (3.14-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.14.2-1
(2014-04-28) i686 GNU/Linux) on a MacBook (older white model).
It has the Broadcom BCM4321 wireless chipset (arg! non-free!).
When I boot, the b43 module is not auto-loading; I can drop into a
terminal and "sudo modprobe b43)
On 07/05/14 10:09, Paul E Condon wrote:
> It was a very clever talk, and much talked about at the time. But now
> the real innovator of the idea is no longer with us to defend his
> priority.
I think you're talking about Ken Thompson, and according to Wikipedia at
least he's still around.
Richard
Paul E Condon writes:
> I am aware of a long paper by one of the people involved in the
> original development of UNIX and C at Bell Labs in which he described
> in great detail how one might plant back doors in UNIX code and cover
> one's tracks by modifying the whole tool chain of the C language
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 09:20:29PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 06 May 2014 at 07:54:58 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> > This post is being composed well after a great tree of responses to OP
> > have accumulated. In these, as well as in other posts about DE in
> > Debian I have seen mentioned th
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
>
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: A Debian User
> > Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM
> > To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
> >
> > Unintentional data leakage? Script
On 05/06/2014 09:36 PM, Stephen Allen wrote:
On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: A Debian User
Sent: 05/06/14 09:44 AM
To: Theodore Alcapotaxis, debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
Unintentional dat
> - Original Message -
> From: Stephen Allen
> Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
> You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they
> can't analyze it all at this point in time - they still don't know how
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Doug
> Sent: 05/07/14 09:57 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
> They don't try to analyze it all. They look for keywords--like bomb,
> shoot, jihad, and who knows what others. Then they just analyze
> texts that include
> - Original Message -
> From: Patrick Wiseman
> Sent: 05/07/14 05:40 AM
> To: Debian User Lists
> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
> Will you people please take this crap off-list?
>
> Patrick
Patrick, which parts of the topic make you uncomfortable?
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> - Original Message -
> From: John Hasler
> Sent: 05/07/14 04:25 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
>
> Version, file name, line number.
>
> BTW do you know the meaning of the word "libel"?
As I wrote earlier, NSA contractors are sworn to secrecy
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul E Condon
> Sent: 05/07/14 06:09 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>
> I think this claim about Linus Torvalds is apocryphal
I hate to prove you wrong.
Linus' father, Nils Torvalds, is a Member of the European Parli
On 5/6/2014 10:04 PM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Allen
Sent: 05/07/14 09:36 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
You give them more credit then deserved. They gather so much data they
can't analyze it all at this point in
On Tue, 06 May 2014 17:46:29 -0500
Kent West wrote:
>
> How can I get the module to load at startup instead of me having to
> manually modprobe it every time?
>
> Thanks!
>
Try this:
- On a freshly booted system, run
modprobe -v b43
- Add the printed modules in /etc/modules the same orde
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Theodore Alcapotaxis
wrote:
>> From: Patrick Wiseman
>> Sent: 05/07/14 05:40 AM
>> To: Debian User Lists
>> Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe?
>>
>> Will you people please take this crap off-list?
>
> Patrick, which parts of the topic make you uncomfortable?
There's
If I want / to be on a hard drive and /boot to be on a separate drive
or partition D-I appears to handle this request gracefully.
But if I put / on a hard drive logical partition and /boot on a
bootable flash drive partition, e.g, /dev/sdc1, it appears that there
is no boot loader (e.g,, GRUB or L
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