Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-17 Thread ken
On 04/16/2014 11:50 PM green wrote: Steve Litt wrote at 2014-04-16 13:05 -0500: I'd feel a lot better with 200 eyes than 4. Even 10 would make me nervous. But the fault is partly mine. I never contributed to the OpenSSL project, either with dollars or eyes. +1 Steve brings up a very good p

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:56:43 +0100 Lisi Reisz napísal: > On Wednesday 16 April 2014 22:43:40 Slavko wrote: > > Is it a my mistake, that i cannot help with this? Am i expecting a > > lot? Need i switch to proprietary software (yes, i know, that is no > > solution)? > > And you believe tha

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 17 April 2014 09:01:42 Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:56:43 +0100 Lisi Reisz > > > napísal: > > On Wednesday 16 April 2014 22:43:40 Slavko wrote: > > > Is it a my mistake, that i cannot help with this? Am i > > > expecting a lot? Need i switch to proprietary software

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:18:06 -0400 Brad Alexander napísal: > > I am talking about encryption and the F/OSS in general and i have my > > privacy in the mind. Here exists a lot of people int today world, > > which tell, that they have nothing to hide. > > *Everybody* has something to hide. E

Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-17 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 04/16/2014 10:09 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/16/2014 03:16 AM, Frank Weißer wrote: Hi Oliver! > > Facing the same problem a while ago, i somewhere found a hint to add > > deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all > > to sources.list. Don't remember from where, but it works for me on > debian te

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:15:53 +0100 Lisi Reisz napísal: > > See: "yes, i know, that it is no solution" at end of the cited > > text... > > I obviously misread that. That is not what I took that sentence to > mean. See the word "need". :-) No problem :-) I know, that my English is poor a

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 17 April 2014 09:18:14 Slavko wrote: > Sure, you are right. I am aware about own secrets. I am active > (beside other things) in the improving knowledge about > inadvisability of the Internet. And most of people around me > responds, that they havo no things to hide. I have theory why t

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 17 April 2014 09:25:01 Slavko wrote: > No problem :-) I know, that my English is poor and is far from > good... Your English is very good. Would that my knowledge of Balkan languages were as good. :-) See my comments on the problems with English in the email that crossed with yours

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-17 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-17, ken wrote: > > Steve brings up a very good point, one often overlooked in our zeal for > getting so much FOSS for absolutely no cost. Since we're all given the > source code, we're all in part responsible for it and for improving it. I don't think the point is very good for the

Re: Repeatable apt-get WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

2014-04-17 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > >> [SNIP] >> > [...] > root@debian:/home/richard# apt-get install pforth > pforth? Mind if I ask why? > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-17 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 4/17/2014 5:40 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-04-17, ken wrote: Steve brings up a very good point, one often overlooked in our zeal for getting so much FOSS for absolutely no cost. Since we're all given the source code, we're all in part responsible for it and for improving it. I don't think th

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-17 Thread Brad Alexander
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:36 AM, ken wrote: > Steve brings up a very good point, one often overlooked in our zeal for > getting so much FOSS for absolutely no cost. Since we're all given the > source code, we're all in part responsible for it and for improving it. > This ethic should be visited

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-17 Thread Curt
On 2014-04-17, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > This is a totally irresponsible post, showing the op knows very little > about programming. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_de_Raadt Theo de Raadt (/ˈθiː.oʊ dɛˈrɔːt/; Dutch: [ˈteː.o dɛˈraːt]; born May 19, 1968) is a software engineer who lives in Calg

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: > I simply don't want the world and his uncle knowing every last little > thing about me. I agree, but you have to realize that for most of us the world and his uncle are not interested in every little thing about us so it requires little effort to keep them from learning it. I think

Re: Repeatable apt-get WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

2014-04-17 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 09:49:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > root@debian:/home/richard# apt-get install pforth > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following NEW packages will be installed: > pforth > 0 upgraded, 1 newly i

Re: Repeatable apt-get WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

2014-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Joel Rees wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Richard Owlett mailto:rowl...@cloud85.net>> wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: [SNIP] [...] root@debian:/home/richard# apt-get install pforth pforth? Mind if I ask why? *LOL* not the part of my post for which I expected a

Re: Heartbleed (was ... Re: My fellow (Debian) Linux users ...)

2014-04-17 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 4/17/2014 10:31 AM, Curt wrote: On 2014-04-17, Jerry Stuckle wrote: This is a totally irresponsible post, showing the op knows very little about programming. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_de_Raadt Theo de Raadt (/ˈθiː.oʊ dɛˈrɔːt/; Dutch: [ˈteː.o dɛˈraːt]; born May 19, 1968) is a

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 09:18:06PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: > > Need i switch to proprietary software (yes, i know, that is no > > solution)? > > > > You could, but then, you end up in a situation where a corporate entity > will sacrifice your security for their bottom line, for their next > q

Re: Repeatable apt-get WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!

2014-04-17 Thread Richard Owlett
Reco wrote: Hi. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 09:49:23AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: root@debian:/home/richard# apt-get install pforth Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following NEW packages will be installed: pforth 0 upgraded, 1 newly

Re: Matrox G450 PCI DVI with modern xorg ?

2014-04-17 Thread Mark Carroll
Sven Hartge writes: (snip) > I am afraid to say this, but: G450 DVI with modern Xorg does not work > and will never work, because you need the closed source proprietary HAL > for this which has not been updated since a long long time. > > I tried to get this to work several years ago, trying every

Re: insserv: warning: script ... missing LSB tags and overrides

2014-04-17 Thread John Magolske
* Chris Bannister [140406 10:06]: > On Sat, Apr 05, 2014 at 11:44:28PM -0700, John Magolske wrote: > > After a recent `aptitude dist-upgrade` I'm getting a long string of > > > insserv: warning: script 'K02grml-home' missing LSB tags and overrides > > insserv: warning: script 'K02grml-misc' missi

Re: Sun/Oracle Java

2014-04-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/17/2014 04:21 AM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: On 04/16/2014 10:09 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/16/2014 03:16 AM, Frank Weißer wrote: Hi Oliver! > > Facing the same problem a while ago, i somewhere found a hint to add > > deb http://www.duinsoft.nl/pkg debs all > > to sources.list. Don't remem

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Joe
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:34:35 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: > > I simply don't want the world and his uncle knowing every last > > little thing about me. > > I agree, but you have to realize that for most of us the world and his > uncle are not interested in every little thing about us

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > Certainly the case, but it's no longer just 'serious' secrets that > hold an attraction. Just about any kind of information, held about > large enough sets of people, can be of some commercial use. I keep information secret when revealing it might harm me. I make no deliberate effor

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Bill Wood
On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 14:39 -0500, John Hasler wrote: . . . > I keep information secret when revealing it might harm me. I make no > deliberate effort to keep stuff secret just to prevent it from > benefiting someone else. Of course, that requires the ability to discern when some information m

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread John Hasler
> Take for example current controversies over services > like Amazon and Google and the "filter bubble": Do you consider it > harmful for them to tailor your experience to their estimate of what you They are not given the opportunity to do so. Participation in such systems is optional. In this

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread PaulNM
On 04/17/2014 05:17 PM, John Hasler wrote: >> Take for example current controversies over services >> like Amazon and Google and the "filter bubble": Do you consider it >> harmful for them to tailor your experience to their estimate of what you > > They are not given the opportunity to do so. Pa

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread John Hasler
PaulNM writes: > "Optional" for now. More and more these entities are moving away from > using the browser to store identifying info. > https://panopticlick.eff.org Which means that they are relying on information that is under your control. Few people will bother to spoof it and that's good be

Network interfaces die when laptop lid closes in Fluxbox

2014-04-17 Thread Brian Cottingham
I've installed Debian Jessie on a new computer. When I run Fluxbox or XFCE and close my laptop lid (the laptop does not sleep when the lid closes), all network interfaces are disconnected and NetworkManager doesn't know they exist anymore ("Networking is disabled". Clicking "Enable networking" has

Re: Network interfaces die when laptop lid closes in Fluxbox

2014-04-17 Thread Brian Cottingham
I should include that my wireless card is an Intel 7260AC, and my ethernet card is an Intel I217-LM. Both get disabled. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Brian Cottingham wrote: > I've installed Debian Jessie on a new computer. When I run Fluxbox or > XFCE and close my laptop lid (the laptop does

Re: Re: Re: Notebook don't hibernate anymore

2014-04-17 Thread Marcelo Laia
Is it swap partition unnecessary? I could disabled it and resize hd to my home or root partitions? Here is my /proc/meminfo MemTotal:4139604 kB MemFree: 655648 kB Buffers: 119072 kB Cached: 1935736 kB SwapCached:10204 kB Active: 2175612 kB Inac

libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 upgrade fail

2014-04-17 Thread Chris Hiestand
Anyone else having problems with the wheezy openssl security update that was just released? I'm looking into what is failing in the postinst script, but haven't IDed the cause yet. $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state informati

ntpdate: Can't find host 0.debian.pool.ntp.org

2014-04-17 Thread Amit
Hello, Have a minimal debian system and installed ntpdate. Time seems to be set correctly but getting these messages: $ journalctl -b | grep ntp Apr 17 17:36:22 test ntpdate[709]: Can't find host 0.debian.pool.ntp.org: Name or service not known (-2) Apr 17 17:36:22 test ntpdate[709]: Can't find

Re: Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:15:35 -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: > Not ever being an Apple user, I hadn't heard that before. When I read > your post, I fell off the chair laughing. One more reason why I doubt > if I will ever use an Apple computer or anything else. I'm going to get a Macbook Air just

Re: ntpdate: Can't find host 0.debian.pool.ntp.org

2014-04-17 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 12:43:28AM +, Amit wrote: > Have a minimal debian system and installed ntpdate. Time seems to be set > correctly but getting these messages: > > $ journalctl -b | grep ntp > Apr 17 17:36:22 test ntpdate[709]: Can't find host 0.debian.pool.ntp.org: > Name or service not

Re: libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 upgrade fail

2014-04-17 Thread Chris Hiestand
On Apr 17, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Chris Hiestand wrote: > Setting up libssl1.0.0:amd64 (1.0.1e-2+deb7u7) ... > Checking for services that may need to be restarted...done. > Checking init scripts... > dpkg: error processing libssl1.0.0:amd64 (--configure): > subprocess installed post-installation scri

Re: ntpdate: Can't find host 0.debian.pool.ntp.org

2014-04-17 Thread staticsafe
On 4/17/2014 20:43, Amit wrote: > Name or service not known (-2) Sounds like you have/had DNS issues. Perhaps the resolver(s) in /etc/resolv.conf were unresponsive? -- staticsafe https://asininetech.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsub

Re: libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 upgrade fail

2014-04-17 Thread staticsafe
On 4/17/2014 20:02, Chris Hiestand wrote: > Anyone else having problems with the wheezy openssl security update that was > just released? > > I'm looking into what is failing in the postinst script, but haven't IDed the > cause yet. > > dpkg: error processing openssl (--configure): > dependency

Re: Network interfaces die when laptop lid closes in Fluxbox

2014-04-17 Thread Brian Cottingham
I found the source of my problem. Turns out systemd presumes shutting your laptop lid means the computer is going to sleep, and notifies NetworkManager to prepare for sleep[0]. If the computer does not, in fact, go to sleep, NetworkManager never receives the corresponding "wake up from sleep" event

programs become unresponsive intermittently

2014-04-17 Thread Gary Dale
I believe this is likely a network issue but I'm having difficulty tracking it down. I had a very similar problem a while back that seemed to be from having too many NFS shares. I'd reduced the number to 4 and it cleared up. I had another similar problem later that I tracked down to a failing

UEFI install

2014-04-17 Thread Corey Blair
I got a new laptop without a CD/DVD drive and am trying to install off a USB image and either dual boot my pre-installed windows 8.1 or just wipe and use strictly Debian. I get all the way to the point of installing GRUB and it fails. I've read that this may have something to do with the disk

E-mail рассылки

2014-04-17 Thread Антонов Леонид
Рассылки - это продуктивно Самый огромный охват интернет-аудитории С нетерпением ждем Вашего звонка: [Ч 9 5 ]5 Ч2 39 8 7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.de

Re: libssl1.0.0:amd64 1.0.1e-2+deb7u7 upgrade fail

2014-04-17 Thread Никита Борисенков
I have the same issue. DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer dpkg -D777 --configure libssl1.0.0 D40: checking dependencies of libssl1.0.0 (- ) D000400: checking group ... D000400: checking possibility -> libc6 D000400: is installed, ok and found D000400: found 3 D000400: found 3 matched

apt-get upgrade no service restart

2014-04-17 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, I manage several Debian systems and have a script in place that does a apt-get update and apt-get upgrade --dry-run each night and sends me a mail if it shows any package to be installed / upgraded. Of course on all my systems (some Squeeze, most Wheezy) it showed the updates for openssl la