Re: Remove root access from folder/directory

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:28 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 05/12/13 17:01, Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > > Hi, > > I've unzipped a folder and it became root protected. The folder icon is > > showing a lock sign. Now that, I cannot copy/move this folder in any > > other place. What can I do now? How

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread AP
On Wednesday, December 04, 2013 07:26:22 PM Weaver wrote: > I'm not finding this. > But then I'm not running KMail as a solo app, either. I'm running it in > coordination with the full kdepim package, so if some are having trouble > with it, there could be some interdependency factor involved. >

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread AP
On Wednesday, December 04, 2013 07:26:22 PM Weaver wrote: > The best mail client depends completely on individual need. Got it! Thanks. -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-05 Thread AP
On Wednesday, December 04, 2013 01:19:04 PM Jerry Stuckle wrote: > It varies somewhat by release, but it's under Options in the Tools menu > entry. Ok well. -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

2013-12-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 04 December 2013 19:41:57 Brian wrote: > On Wed 04 Dec 2013 at 13:19:04 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > A lot of your questions can be answered by just looking though > > the various menu items, especially Tools-Options. > > AP is on a roll; all attention is focused on him/her. There i

How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi, logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. Starting with a she-bang line seem to have no effect. Even if I manually run logrotate as root who has /bin/bash as login shell, /bin/sh is used. How to make logr

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:31 +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. > Starting with a she-bang line seem to have no effect. Even if I > manually run logrotate as root who has

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:31 +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > > found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. > > Starting with a she-bang line seem to hav

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:44 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:43 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 10:31 +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > > > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > > > found no way where to specify which script in

xterm and command line word movement: CTRL+RightArrow, CTRL+LeftArrow

2013-12-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I'm running on sid. With the following in ~/.inputrc : $include /etc/inputrc "\e[1;5C": forward-word "\e[1;5D": backward-word "\e[5C": forward-word "\e[5D": backward-word "\e\e[C": forward-word "\e\e[D": backward-word And running bind ~/.inputrc, CTRL+LeftArrow and CTRL+RightArrow display the us

xterm regex definition

2013-12-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Is there a way I might determine the full/precise regular expression syntax for xterm onXclicks resource, without reading the source code? xterm's regex syntax appears to be not documented. I guess that's a bug against its man-page?? So I use (the ⌐ is the symbol displayed for a tab character - I'

Re: My apologies

2013-12-05 Thread AP
And if any one of the folks here might have told me initially that it could be asked in off list, I had no issues asking there! I just thought things work in Linux anywhere and everywherewe need to select the things...so I just thought this for questions too!!! But now its known. -- Regar

Re: xterm and command line word movement: CTRL+RightArrow, CTRL+LeftArrow

2013-12-05 Thread Volker Wysk
Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013, 23:50:04 schrieb Zenaan Harkness: > I'm running on sid. > > With the following in ~/.inputrc : > > $include /etc/inputrc > "\e[1;5C": forward-word > "\e[1;5D": backward-word > "\e[5C": forward-word > "\e[5D": backward-word > "\e\e[C": forward-word > "\e\e[D": back

Re: My apologies

2013-12-05 Thread Joe
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 20:05:50 +0530 AP wrote: > And if any one of the folks here might have told me initially that it > could be asked in off list, I had no issues asking there! > > I just thought things work in Linux anywhere and everywherewe need > to select the things...so I just though

Re: My apologies

2013-12-05 Thread AP
I really had no issues posting queries to the deb-off list, provided I knew the option of its existence Well, I today itself joined the debian off-topic. But as a matter of interest, would like to ask that is rarely used by guys? Since there was no message I got...or may be none posted ther

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread David Guntner
Steffen Dettmer grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > Hi, > > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. > Starting with a she-bang line seem to have no effect. Even if I > manually run logrotate as root who has /b

Re: New install (intel) can't video mode-switch - SOLVED

2013-12-05 Thread Frank Miles
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 05:30:02 +0100, Frank Miles wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 00:20:02 +0100, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > [snip] > >> I have similar motherboard - ASUS H87-PRO, but a very kind man >> explained to me on this list that Haswell video won't work with Wheezy >> so I'm going to use my

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread maderios
Hi It depends what you need... Imap facilities (automatic updates, creating/deleting folders, emptying junk) are very important for me. I tested many mail clients, claws-mail, sylpheed, icedove/thunderbird, balsa, kmail, evolution, mutt, iceape. - the best is Icedove/Thunderbird. It works per

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 10:31:01AM +0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote: > Hi, > > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. > Starting with a she-bang line seem to have no effect. Even if I > manually run logrotate

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread AP
On Thursday, December 05, 2013 05:56:12 PM maderios wrote: > It depends what you need... Imap facilities (automatic updates, > creating/deleting folders, emptying junk) are very important for me. I > tested many mail clients, claws-mail, sylpheed, icedove/thunderbird, > balsa, kmail, evolution, m

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:03 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > Just a thought, how about making your postrotate command be "/bin/bash > /path/to/myscript.sh"? This was already mentioned, resp. the shebang would work, if the script is called by simply path/myscript.sh, IOW without a leading sh, which usu

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread lostson
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:56 +0100, maderios wrote: > Hi > It depends what you need... Imap facilities (automatic updates, > creating/deleting folders, emptying junk) are very important for me. I > tested many mail clients, claws-mail, sylpheed, icedove/thunderbird, > balsa, kmail, evolution, mu

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread maderios
On 12/05/2013 06:01 PM, lostson wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:56 +0100, maderios wrote: Hi It depends what you need... Imap facilities (automatic updates, creating/deleting folders, emptying junk) are very important for me. I tested many mail clients, claws-mail, sylpheed, icedove/thunderbird

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread D.E. Bil
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 11:01:31AM -0600, lostson wrote: > Evolution In threads like these? No. -- debil :wq -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131

Re: How to use logrotate postrotate *bash* script

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Steffen Dettmer wrote: > logrotate seems to execute "postrotate" scripts using /bin/sh and I > found no way where to specify which script interpreter to use. > Starting with a she-bang line seem to have no effect. Even if I > manually run logrotate as root who has /bin/bash as login shell, > /bin/s

Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is apparently unusable with such an X driver. Goodbye, GNOME. Hello, XFCE. I hope Debian will m

How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
I'm sure that this must be one of the most common questions for new XFCE users, but I can't seem to find an answer. If only I knew what the proper terminology for this thing is, I'm sure I could find the answer with an internet search. But I don't know what it's called. In the subject line of th

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:46 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > I'm sure that this must be one of the most common questions for new XFCE > users, but I can't seem to find an answer. If only I knew what the > proper terminology for this thing is, I'm sure I could find the answer > with an internet search.

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
It's called panel. $ xfce4-settings-manager -> Panel -> Chose the wanted panel, the selected is marked -> push the minus button to remove it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such

isc-dhcp-server not receiving DHCPDISCOVER

2013-12-05 Thread Russell L. Carter
Hi, After wearing out the google I'm going to foist my problem onto you good folk. I've got an internal net with several dual-homed jessie boxen. I would like to get isc-dhcp-server up so I can configure my new UniFi toy. The server has two statically configured interfaces, eth0 and eth1. The

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my > DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not that good at > the moment, but since LXDE is similar ok as Xfce is, it might be > interesting to w

Re: Best Mail Client

2013-12-05 Thread Intense Red
> It depends what you need... Exactly. Without specific criteria this will likely just be a sea of opinions. My own preference is KMail. It has its bugs, but the way it handles multiple e-mail addresses and accounts is IMO superior to other clients. -- "The Communists of the USSR told

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:13 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:01:37 -0500 (EST), Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > All GTK dependent DEs have their drawbacks. Xfce still is and will be my > > DE for a while, but I'm already testing Razor-Qt. It's not that good at > > the moment, but

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:05:22 -0500 (EST), Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > Right-click on it, select 'Panel' and then the minus-sign at the top > will remove it. What I prefer is to have it minimized when it doesn't > have focus; then maximized windows do maximize. That you can do by > checking the 'A

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Shane Johnson
If you go to either the mouse icon or right click on your desktop, Then go to applications then settings and then panel, you will find what your looking for there. Shane On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:05:22 -0500 (EST), Patrick Wiseman wrote: > >

Re: My apologies

2013-12-05 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 09:14:24PM +0630, AP wrote: > I really had no issues posting queries to the deb-off list, provided I knew > the > option of its existence That's because you never bothered to look for it, just like you never bother to look for answers yourself by searching. Do you eve

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:47:25 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: > > As for "Automatically show and hide the panel", I can't find where to set > this. Besides, it seems to me that that will get rid of the thing across > the top of the screen, not the thing along the bottom of the screen. > I want

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:47:25 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> As for "Automatically show and hide the panel", I can't find where to set >> this. Besides, it seems to me that that will get rid of the thing across >> the top of the scr

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Bo Lan
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 16:46 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such

Re: isc-dhcp-server not receiving DHCPDISCOVER

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Russell L. Carter wrote: > I've got an internal net with several dual-homed jessie boxen. I see that you have 10.0.10.0/24 on one and 10.0.11.0/24 on the other. Is that correct? And you only want dhcpd to serve DHCP requests on the 10.0.10.0/24 network? > I would like to get isc-dhcp-server up

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 18:24 -0500, Bo Lan wrote: > I am still a new user, and don't know if we can report a bug to Debian > to say that, GNOME SHELL or Foo Desktop Environment is not usable under > 2D free video card driver or such. Actually, I hope Debian can patch > those DE, free drivers, and so

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 17:47 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Hmm. Well, when I right-click on it, I get a pop-up menu with a title > of "launcher". That's why I mentioned $ xfce4-settings-manager instead of a click, OTOH "panel" is always mentioned by the right-click, but easy to miss. -- To UN

Re: xterm and command line word movement: CTRL+RightArrow, CTRL+LeftArrow

2013-12-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
SOLVED (gmail breaks threads sorry - I'll upgrade to mutt again next year). On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:29 +0100, Volker Wysk wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013, 23:50:04 schrieb Zenaan Harkness: .. >> And running bind ~/.inputrc, CTRL+LeftArrow and >> CTRL+RightArrow display the usual problemat

Re: isc-dhcp-server not receiving DHCPDISCOVER

2013-12-05 Thread Russell L. Carter
Greetings Bob, On 12/05/2013 04:27 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Russell L. Carter wrote: >> I've got an internal net with several dual-homed jessie boxen. > > I see that you have 10.0.10.0/24 on one and 10.0.11.0/24 on the other. Is > that correct? And you only want dhcpd to serve DHCP requests on t

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: > Well, the latest update to Debian jessie did it. GNOME 3 apparently > no longer has a "fallback mode" for X drivers which don't support 3D > acceleration. Mine doesn't. And the native GNOME 3 interface is > apparently unusable with such an X driver.

Re: isc-dhcp-server not receiving DHCPDISCOVER

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Russell L. Carter wrote: > Ok, I need to do some experimenting here. I've broken out a long > patch cable to bypass the switch I would really be surprised if the switch has broken down. Not impossible of course. But what are the odds? I think it very unlikely. If I were to guess I would guess

Re: My apologies

2013-12-05 Thread Rick Thomas
Naming no names; There have been a couple of what I would regard as belligerent and confrontational replies to this posting. I found Ralph's original apology to be gentlemanly and entirely appropriate. The belligerent replies were completely out of place. We're all friends here. Let's keep

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > You could do what I did with my install of Wheezy 64-bit (Replacing > Fedora 12): Abandon the desktop "environment" entirely, and just use a > full-featured window manager and a few utilities. I found Openbox with > LXPanel works just fine. L

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/6/13, Rick Thomas wrote: > On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> You could do what I did with my install of Wheezy 64-bit (Replacing >> Fedora 12): Abandon the desktop "environment" entirely, and just use a >> full-featured window manager and a few utilities. I found Openb

Hearing Sound When Running Debian Live

2013-12-05 Thread David L. Craig
I am amazed to discover how difficult it is to figure out why programmatically causing a sound to be heard when running a Debian Live XFCE distribution doesn't produce actual sound. I can invoke VLC via Application -> Multimedia and hear a .wav as expected but trying to cause that to happen using

Switching video card brands

2013-12-05 Thread Jon N
I hope to be installing Debian in a new computer in about a week or so. It will have a Haswell processor and I hope to be able to get by with the built in video. But, if it doesn't work well I have an Nvidia 8600GT card I can take from my old system. But, I really don't know what's involved in s

Re: Setting up wordpress on wheezy using the debian packages?

2013-12-05 Thread Rick Thomas
Thanks to all who replied. I got lots of useful suggestions. The one that finally got me off the ground is this one… Somehow I missed it in all my googling. https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress By *carefully* following *all* the instructions there, I was able to get a functioning WordPres

Re: Re: Remove root access from folder/directory

2013-12-05 Thread Muntasim-Ul-Haque
Thanks Scott! It worked like a charm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52a133b2.2050...@inventati.org

Re: Goodbye GNOME, Hello XFCE

2013-12-05 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:07:44 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: >> ... >> I hope Debian will make XFCE the >> default desktop for the production jessie installer. > > It is for the time being. > > http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.g

Re: xterm and command line word movement: CTRL+RightArrow, CTRL+LeftArrow

2013-12-05 Thread Volker Wysk
Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2013, 10:51:30 schrieb Zenaan Harkness: > SOLVED (gmail breaks threads sorry - I'll upgrade to mutt again next year). > > On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:29 +0100, Volker Wysk wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2013, 23:50:04 schrieb Zenaan Harkness: > .. > > >> And running bin

Re: How do I get rid of the "launchpad" in XFCE?

2013-12-05 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:00:02 -0500 (EST) Stephen Powell wrote: > I'm sure that this must be one of the most common questions for new XFCE > users, but I can't seem to find an answer. If only I knew what the > proper terminology for this thing is, I'm sure I could find the answer > with an interne

Re: Setting up wordpress on wheezy using the debian packages?

2013-12-05 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 06/12/13 13:30, Rick Thomas wrote: > > Thanks to all who replied. I got lots of useful suggestions. > > The one that finally got me off the ground is this one… Somehow I > missed it in all my googling. :) It didn't exist when you did your Googling. I wrote it *after* reading your post. >

Re: My apologies

2013-12-05 Thread AP
On Thursday, December 05, 2013 05:05:12 PM Rick Thomas wrote: > Naming no names; There have been a couple of what I would regard as > belligerent and confrontational replies to this posting. I found Ralph's > original apology to be gentlemanly and entirely appropriate. The > belligerent replies

Re: xterm and command line word movement: CTRL+RightArrow, CTRL+LeftArrow

2013-12-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Volker Wysk wrote: > Am Freitag, 6. Dezember 2013, 10:51:30 schrieb Zenaan Harkness: > > SOLVED (gmail breaks threads sorry - I'll upgrade to mutt again next year). I know you said solved. Good. It sounds from what was written like it might not be solved yet though. In any case I will note that

Unable to change shell and add groups

2013-12-05 Thread shawn wilson
For some reason, when I chsh to say /bin/zsh, log out and back in, I'm still in bash - confirmed with readlink /proc/$$/exe I tried adding my user to the adm group, logging out and back in, and it's not there. However, if I exec su -p -l - everything works. I've also tried an init q to no avail.