Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.

2013-04-09 Thread Jose Manuel Pérez
El 09/04/13 06:43, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD escribió: Dear list - How do I migrate my 1] email 2] filters 3] mailboxes 4] address book from Icedove to Thunderbird? If you are migrating in Linux, just copy .icedove directory to .thunderbird and it should work (mail, address book, calendar, ect.).

Re: Modifying Iceweasel Start Parameters

2013-04-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 08:32:53PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: > Dear List - > > I am trying to start Iceweasel with a specific program. > > The following sort of works from the command line, > > iceweasel -No-Remote localhost/choice.php -width $1280 -height $1024 DISCLAIMER: I'm using

Re: start-stop-daemon on an inotify script

2013-04-09 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi Bob, thanks a lot for stepping in and all your comments on the script and its usage. I did not want to have too much attention on my inotify script, so I stripped it down to something simpler, that still is doing something useful. It seems I failed in the simplification... Bob Proulx writ

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 07:24, Joel Roth a écrit : Sounds like you've got a Big Picture(tm) vision to create! Yes, I know, but modern softwares globally tends to integrate features they should not, and if no-one does a software with clear objectives to restrict this problem, it will never change. Some

Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.

2013-04-09 Thread Hristo Topalov
And the same is for windows (if you do the mistake to use it) On 04/09/2013 10:17 AM, Jose Manuel Pérez wrote: If you are migrating in Linux, just copy .icedove directory to .thunderbird and it should work (mail, address book, calendar, ect.). I've done it from thunderbird to icedove and vic

Re: Fixing a half-configured package

2013-04-09 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Excerpt from sirquij...@lavabit.com: -- -- > Setting up nfs-kernel-server (1:1.2.2-4squeeze2) ... > insserv: Service nfs-common has to be enabled to start service compare this with yours: ,[ head -n 14 /etc/init.d/nfs-common ]--- #!/bin/bash ### BEGIN

Re: sync apt/dpkg state between systems?

2013-04-09 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Bob and Paul, Excerpt from myself: -- -- >> * Exclude /etc/fstab >> * Exclude /etc/lvm >> * Exclude /etc/mdadm > > + /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume It just crossed my mind that you also need to take care of everything where your MAC adresses are reused. For certain that is:

Re: Migrate from Icedove to Thunderbird.

2013-04-09 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Excerpt from Jose Manuel Pérez: >> How do I migrate my >> 1] email >> 2] filters >> 3] mailboxes >> 4] address book >> >> from Icedove to Thunderbird? > > If you are migrating in Linux, just copy .icedove directory to > ..thunderbird i suppose this to be a typo as it should be '.thunder

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Weaver
On Mon, April 8, 2013 2:18 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 13:35 -0700, Weaver wrote: >> So! >> Are we saying that the policy by which devs are included into core >> function needs looking at, from a Q.A. viewpoint? >> Do we even have one? >> If not, this may very well be a good pl

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Weaver
On Mon, April 8, 2013 6:56 pm, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: >> This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized >> and not taken from banana republics. > > I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be civiliz

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > > This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized > > and not taken from banana republics. > > I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be c

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 17:07 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 04:49:40AM +, Dirk wrote: > > http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png > > https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623 > > I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus, > with which I was minimally acquainted. > > https:/

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:27 -0500, Yaro Kasear wrote: > 1. Complaining about a minor inconvenient feature change (Moving most of > the save functionality into "export" mode. Annoying, but hardly a > dealbreaking move.). Never mind that I find GIMP's new interfact > introduced in 2.8 is a vast im

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 04:26:59 -0700 "Weaver" wrote: > > On Mon, April 8, 2013 6:56 pm, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > > Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > >> This is an international mailing list and the rules should be > >> civilized and not taken from banana republics. > > > > I d

debian 6.0.7 amd64 raid0 lvm crypt - bootloader issue

2013-04-09 Thread shmick
Hi all, Having installed debian onto a hardware raid pc setup, using dmraid=true switch, I attempt to repair the failed grub/lilo bootlader install after rebooting into rescue, again with dmraid=true How can I get grub installed? Background info: Partitioning setup according to guided lvm cry

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Well, I know that i3 is very active (as I said, I really like this > software, and it is, in my opinion, one of the best I have used in > all categories: easiness of config, lightweight, features only > related to its job...), and the commun

Partitioning problem

2013-04-09 Thread Alexandre De Muer
Hi, When installing from "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 6.0.7 "Squeeze" - Official kfreebsd-i386 DVD Binary-1 20130223-17:32"the following problem issued from "guided partition layout":"unable to set mount from file-system type swap on ** to none". The hardware I'm using: AMD Athlon XP 2200+, MSI 6511 ve

Multiple kernels

2013-04-09 Thread Alexandre De Muer
Hi, When installing from "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 6.0.7 "Squeeze" - Official kfreebsd-i386 DVD Binary-1 20130223-17:32"the following problem issued from "selecting and installing programs": the ability to choose between kernel "8" and "8.1.1". The hardware I'm using: AMD Athlon XP 2200+, MSI 6511 v

Install package hang

2013-04-09 Thread Alexandre De Muer
Hi, When installing from "Debian GNU/kFreeBSD 6.0.7 "Squeeze" - Official kfreebsd-i386 DVD Binary-1 20130223-17:32"the following problem issued from "selecting and installing programs":this part of setup hangs at 81% progress. The hardware I'm using: AMD Athlon XP 2200+, MSI 6511 ver1 motherboa

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:07 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > Bzzzt. Wrong. Check out the Wikipedia article on banana > republics. That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I use it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people won't call Islamic nation

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Carl Fink
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I use > it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people > won't call Islamic nations that kill their own and other people "banana > republic". Wh

Journalism job directory

2013-04-09 Thread Greg McDivet
I wanted to tell you about this job directory: http://www.exam2jobs.com/journalism-jobs.html It has some good information about available jobs and offers help for a variety of certification exams. I thought it was a nice resource and you might want to post a link to it for others. "Education i

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:28 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I use > > it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people > > won't call Islamic nations

gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Fisichella
I thought I had a good system. I was installing software from tarballs and putting them in /usr/local/. That worked well. Yesterday, I tried to install various versions of pcb-20110918. Among the commands I executed were sudo apt-get install libglw1-mesa-dev freeglut3-dev libgtkglext-dev

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
As root run /etc/init.d/network-manager start I'm using network-manager, but I also can run a script and connect to the Internet without network manager. I can't explain how to do this for Debian, since regarding to systemd's device naming even eth0 became an obscure name for my Linux. "start" i

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized and not taken from banana republics. I don't like offtopic subject

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 14:13, Anthony Campbell a écrit : I like i3 too, but I find that spectrwm has similar features but is better in some respects. I have a comparison of i3, dwm, xmonad, and spectrwm on my blog at http://www.acampbell.org.uk/serendipity/index.php?/archives/609-Four-tiling-window-manag

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > > On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > >> Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > >>> This is an international mailing list and the rules should

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Morning Star
it's getting hot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAD9kJ0PcmeKvJ4ZPR-pN=x7nY2kt7Y=1emrjjj5roby+qbw...@mail.gmail.com

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > > Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > > > On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > > >> Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: >

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 16:14, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit : (I thought it was possible to hide title bars, but while reading the doc it appears that I was wrong... And by reading it with a search on word "title" I just remember that, I was true so, here is the option: "border none". But i

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 09/04/13 15:12, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Your response is anything but civilized. It is arrogant, not to say > irrational. You initially used as a model of the uncivilized the "banana > republics", that are just poor countries that are economically exploited > and politically dominated

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 15:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I killfiled Mardorf a while ago, because I was disinterested in his > arrogant racist views. I recommended to switch to off-topic mailing list! It's good if people know how to filter email, but show me "racist views" (you might read it,

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories? 42. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/968105b34e

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati
Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: This is an international

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread David Guntner
Yes, sir, the topic at hand is so incredibly relevant to this list! Yup, it's exactly the kind of thing that people who subscribed to it because it's a LIST SPECIFICALLY ABOUT USER-TO-USER SUPPORT OF THE *DEBIAN OPERATING SYSTEM* want to see. Yup, it's sure what those who signed up for a list abou

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:59 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > > Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories? > > 42. Perhaps some Babel fishes would help, since language barriers seem to be not unimportant. And IIRC Deep Thou

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 12:04 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > >> Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > >>> On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assira

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Fisichella
Hi Ralf, Thanks for the debugging help. That makes sense about X being a little messed up, since I was installing X libraries last night. I'll attach the output to those commands. I am seeing X-type errors in .xsession-errors. This, in particular I think is the smoking gun: (polkit-gnome

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 04/09/2013 06:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: (snip) Why does Debian by default have the "iced" Mozillas? Because they're the only distribution that cares about the free software zealotry enough to comply with the Firefox trademark guideline? Just spitballing there. Most people consider firefo

RE: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

2013-04-09 Thread keshav prabhakar
really apologize for not responding sooner. > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 06:08:13 -0400 > Subject: Re: Installer not reading preseed.cfg > From: tomh0...@gmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM, keshav prabhakar wrote: > >> > >> I just remembered, I'm using a

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> Interesting. > I just would like to notify you of some imprecise expressions which > could lead to error: "But I mostly work in stacked mode" you should > have speak about stacked layout, since the stacking mode is the one > used by most Not

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 17:07, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:59 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories? 42. Perhaps some Babel fishes would help, since language barriers seem

RE: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

2013-04-09 Thread keshav prabhakar
hit the 'send' button too soon. sorry. > I don't understand. Did you reboot into your install after rebuilding > the initramfs or did you re-install? > > Did you get "No root file system found" after rebuilding the initramfs > or after the re-install? > apologies for not being clear earlier. Yes

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.04.2013 17:44, Anthony Campbell a écrit : On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Interesting. I just would like to notify you of some imprecise expressions which could lead to error: "But I mostly work in stacked mode" you should have speak about stacked layout, since the

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
That's the culprit: (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2389): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Error enumerating temporary authorizations: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.EnumerateTemporaryAuthorizations() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority at name org.freedesktop.

INN2 and Authentication.

2013-04-09 Thread Nick Falcone
I am in the process of setting up an INN2, newsgroup server for small community discussion. So far I have INN2 working fine with no authentication and no SSL, but I will definitely need these working before I am confident in letting this service out. Does anyone have any experience with setting t

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Fisichella
Ralf Mardorf : That's the culprit: (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:2389): polkit-gnome-1-WARNING **: Error enumerating temporary authorizations: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.EnumerateTemporaryAuthorizations() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority

Re: gdm does not start; lost networking

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 12:35 -0400, Chris Fisichella wrote: > Okay, thanks for the help. > > I went to the Debian Squeeze package page for gdm3 and looked for the > X11 dependencies. I used them in an apt-get install --reinstall > command as follows: > > apt-get install --reinstall libx11-6 li

debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread David Christensen
debian-user: I have an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 graphics and a fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64, XFCE desktop, and xdm display manager. The display seems to be running at 1024x768 @ 60 Hz. I booted in recovery mode and ran: # Xorg -configure whic

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Ralf Mardorf wrote: Joel Roth wrote: > > Dirk wrote: > > > http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png > > > https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623 > > > > I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus, > > with which I was minimally acquainted. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus > > > > D-B

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:59 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > debian-user: > > I have an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 > graphics and a fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64, XFCE desktop, and > xdm display manager. The display seems to be running at 1024x768 @ 60

dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > dbus often is a PITA! > > Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as > CORBA? No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications depend on dbus, such as jackd/jackdmp. I'm aware that I can use jackdmp wi

Re: Tiling window manager based desktop environment (was: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE)

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Anthony Campbell wrote: > Status bar: in spectrwm you can optionally have no frame at all in > fullscreen when you turn off the status bar. An absolutely minimal > screen. That is the default in Stumpwm. The behavior is similiar to and inspired by GNU screen. -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > dbus often is a PITA! > > > > Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as > > CORBA? > > No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications dep

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Erwan David
Le 09/04/2013 19:29, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: Ralf Mardorf wrote: dbus often is a PITA! Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as CORBA? No. I guess a predecessor won't help, if applications depend on dbus, such as jackd/jackd

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:33 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > WHen reporting erreor messages when emacs-gtk from a ssh -X session, I > was told that "it's normal that it won't work since it uses dbus". Since > then I have a bad feeling with dbus dependencies which seem to reduce > the capabilities of

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > dbus often is a PITA! > > > > > > Do you have experience with dbus's predecessors, such as > > > CORBA? > > > > No. I guess a prede

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:42:59PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: .snip > > You now behave exactly as the OP does! My intention clearly is, that > it's not ok to discredit folks from upstream, just because we have > different opinions. And it's not ok when you now discredit m

Channel Bonding Problem.

2013-04-09 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Hi list, i'm trying to setup channel bonding on debian with modes active-backup. For testing I'm using an old hp desktop (7 years old) with two nic 1) Integrate Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 GB [eth1] 2) Nic pci 3com 3c905C-TX/TX-M Fast Ethernet [eth0] This is my (very simple) configur

[closed] MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I guess the thread should be closed? I'm not the OP, but I don't care and close it now. I know it's arrogant to do it. If somebody is interested to continue, please do it at http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/d-community-offtopic/2013-April/date.html http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/l

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 19:29 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 07:21 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: >> > Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > > > dbus often is a PITA! >> > > >> > > Do you have experience with dbus's predec

Re: sync apt/dpkg state between systems?

2013-04-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Thilo Six wrote: > Excerpt from Bob Proulx: > >>> # rsync -av /mnt/backup/etc/ /etc/ > >>> # rsync -n --delete -av /mnt/backup/etc/ /etc/ > >>> # rsync --delete -av /mnt/backup/etc/ /etc/ > >> > >> I believe this not to be a good idea. When you do this you mess around with > >> config files u

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:47 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > D-Bus is good overall... There could definitely be improvements in > remote connections though. I think there are workarounds... [snip] DBus isn't an issue for applications you'll use with a desktop environment, when those apps should commu

Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE

2013-04-09 Thread Weaver
On Tue, April 9, 2013 6:02 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:28 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> > That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I >> use >> > it for other countries with similar issues

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
OT regarding to dbus: I wrote: > For other > stuff package maintainers have to do a hard job, somebody seemingly does > extract udev from systemd for Debian. I'm on a distro that follows > upstream and there were many issues when they switched to systemd. http://packages.debian.org/search?keyword

Re: dbus

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
Ralf Mardorf wrote: > DBus isn't an issue for applications you'll use with a desktop > environment, when those apps should communicate with each other, but it > could become an issue, if apps should run on other setups (too) and it's > an issue if simple commands that worked before, then won't work

Re: Fixing a half-configured package

2013-04-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Thilo Six wrote: > Excerpt from sirquij...@lavabit.com: > > insserv: Service nfs-common has to be enabled to start service > # Provides: nfs-common > # Required-Start:$portmap $time > # Required-Stop: $time > # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 S > ... > I suppose the line '# Default-Star

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Joel Roth
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:20:15PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > OT regarding to dbus: > > I wrote: > > For other > > stuff package maintainers have to do a hard job, somebody seemingly does > > extract udev from systemd for Debian. I'm on a distro that follows > > upstream and there were many issu

Re: Pioneer BDR-*206* Internal Blu-Ray Disc DVD/CD writer and Debian

2013-04-09 Thread David Christensen
On 04/03/13 22:05, David Christensen wrote: I looks like it's time for a backup/ wipe/ reinstall cycle. I wiped the system drive and did a fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64. The system is able to burn DVD-R discs correctly. However, it fails to burn Blu-Ray discs: 1. I insert a blank B

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> D-Bus is good overall... The good thing about standard IPC was that you would have to develop the protocol etc.. which means if your app used it. 1./ You needed to use it otherwise you wouldn't. 2./ You made an app specific mechanism (very good if your good but could be bad, the latter is what

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread David Christensen
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:59 -0700, David Christensen wrote: ... fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64, XFCE desktop, and xdm display manager. I've since wiped the drive and done a fresh reinstall using defaults: desktop is gnome 1:2.30+7 display manager is gdm3 2.30.5-6squeeze4 On 04/0

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Too funny, under the jokes is one, asking to merge it with dbus. "Udev and systemd to merge Posted Apr 3, 2012 22:31 UTC Next step is of course to integrate D-Bus in systemd, no?" On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:32 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > https://lwn.net/Articles/490413/ I don't know if systemd and u

Re: Pioneer BDR-*206* Internal Blu-Ray Disc DVD/CD writer and Debian

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 13:54 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > Nautilus 2.30.1. > Any suggestions? A live CD with a more recent version, just for test purpose? I prefer long term versions, old software that is known to work, but I had to drop my Debian, because (not only) hardware needs recent vers

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 14:19 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:59 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > >> ... fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64, XFCE desktop, and xdm display > >> manager. > > I've since wiped the drive and done a fresh reinstall using defaults: > > d

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 23:43 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I would boot it with xorg.conf available and after it failed run > > grep EE /etc/X11/xorg.conf > > or where ever it should be located, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/?* > > When opening your links they were not good formatted, but there are > mouse

Re: dbus - Was: A thread that shouldn't be mentioned anymore

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 22:59 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > What I really don't get though is why there are so many > easily avoidable hard dependencies. +1 We can see what projects come with the most hilarious dependencies and that's why we should avoid EMONG, or similar, have forgotten the name.

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread Benjamin Egner
On 04/09/2013 07:21 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 09:59 -0700, David Christensen wrote: debian-user: I have an Asus M2NPV-VM motherboard with integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150 graphics and a fresh install of debian-6.0.7-amd64, XFCE desktop, and xdm display manager. The displa

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 00:12 +0200, Benjamin Egner wrote: > Last time I had trouble with monitor resolutions, I dealt with it using > `xrandr' I found a German Wiki, since the OP has got a German email adresse I'll post it: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/RandR I don't know if it does work, at lea

Re: debian-6.0.7-amd64 how to set resolution and refresh for free NVIDIA X drivers?

2013-04-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 00:31 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I found a German Wiki, since the OP has got a German email adresse > I'll post it: Oops, I guess I'm mistaken and sorry for the HTML. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

text from serial port + IP camera + Debian for loss prevention?

2013-04-09 Thread Nick Lidakis
Forgive me if I'm not using the proper terminology or not explaining this properly. This aspect of running a small business is foreign to me. My wife and I run a small independent coffee shop and I'm the geek in charge. I've got m0n0wall running great with the customer wifi on DMZ and all our mach

Re: text from serial port + IP camera + Debian for loss prevention?

2013-04-09 Thread Doug
On 04/09/2013 07:55 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote: Forgive me if I'm not using the proper terminology or not explaining this properly. This aspect of running a small business is foreign to me. My wife and I run a small independent coffee shop and I'm the geek in charge. I've got m0n0wall running great

Re: text from serial port + IP camera + Debian for loss prevention?

2013-04-09 Thread sp113438
On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:28:00 -0400 Doug wrote: > On 04/09/2013 07:55 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote: > > Forgive me if I'm not using the proper terminology or not explaining > > this properly. This aspect of running a small business is foreign > > to me. > > > > My wife and I run a small independent coff

Re: text from serial port + IP camera + Debian for loss prevention?

2013-04-09 Thread sp113438
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 06:17:30 +0200 sp113438 wrote: > On Tue, 09 Apr 2013 20:28:00 -0400 > Doug wrote: > > > On 04/09/2013 07:55 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote: > > > Forgive me if I'm not using the proper terminology or not > > > explaining this properly. This aspect of running a small business > > > i