On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 12:04 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > >> Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > >>> On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: > >>>> Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu: > >>>>> This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized > >>>>> and not taken from banana republics. > >>>> I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be civilized > >>>> in this international mailing list I have to ask what are the standards > >>>> here. What do you mean by banana republic? Maybe the USA which uses to > >>>> promote coup d'état against elected governments all over the world and > >>>> invade countries after spreading a lot of FUD? Or England, France > >>>> Germany and Japan, which destroyed half of the world with their > >>>> imperialism throughout the 19th and 20th centuries? > >>> The real world isn't a strawberry field, but a hard place. Communities > >>> unfortunately have got bat "habits". I'm against this, but getting rid > >>> of it, political correctness isn't the way to go. People need to learn > >>> more from Konrad Lorenz, if they are unable to get enlightenment by them > >>> self. > >>> > >>> A "banana republic" in Germany is a term for a community that does fight > >>> against it's own members. IOW, it's not nice, but reality, that one > >>> nation fucks another nation, but within a community (society), we don't > >>> vote with a bullet, as it is done in "banana republics". > >>> > >>> If somebody discredit my prophet the Holy Penguin I even don't kill the > >>> ambassador of a _foreign_ nation/community/society. And my prophet by > >>> the way isn't a child molesters as Mohamed was (not meant to offend > >>> somebody, Mohamed lived in another age, sure, in the Occident they were > >>> child molesters too and especially Christians still tend to be it today, > >>> just follow the news, before you claim I offend netiquette, I simply > >>> speak out the truth). > >>> > >>> So in the Islamic world they might not have banana plantations, but they > >>> behave in way, we call "banana republic" here. > >>> > >> Your response is anything but civilized. It is arrogant, not to say > >> irrational. You initially used as a model of the uncivilized the "banana > >> republics", that are just poor countries that are economically exploited > >> and politically dominated by powerful empires (as the standard > >> definition, not the one that you made up) and now you imply that all > >> muslims are terrorists. You must take more caution with words and > >> thoughts in an "international mailing list". And by the way, Konrad > >> Lorenz was a nazi that later denied everything he said about jews and > >> racist ideas. Maybe you learned your incoherence from him? > > Stop spreading lies about me. I never made any claim about terrorism. > > Yes you did in an implicit form, like I said. You implied that muslims > kill the ambassador of a foreign nation/country/society when somebody > discredited their prophet. Anyone can read this. > > > And being poor doesn't mean that there is the need to vote with bullets > > as it is done in those countries. > > I don't understand what you want to say here. > > > Konrad Lorenz was a behavioral > > scientist and his work is respected and important. A NAZI? Maybe, maybe > > not, > > He was both and I don't know which is worse when discussing human > civilizations: to cite an animal behavior scientist or to cite a nazi. > Much harm was already done when trying to "apply" darwinism do social > sciences. > > > but if you call me a NAZI you've got a problem now. Get me?! > > I never called you a nazi. I was just pointing Konrad Lorenz's > incoherence in his political life and comparing to the incoherence of > your post. I know it may be painful for a german to be compared to a > nazi, as may be painful to a muslin to be compared to a terrorist. It is > painful to me to see the expression "banana republic" (my country was a > banana republic for a long time and it still is in some sense) as a > model of lack of civilization. Maybe you realize now that political > correctness is important. > > > You should respect freedom of expression > > This is valid for everyone, including you. I fail to see when I > disregarded freedom of expression. > > > and stop making conclusions > > about me or anybody else. > > > > I never took any conclusion about you. I was commenting about what you > have written.
Ok, no hard feelings! Let's stop it. I still disagree that political correctness is helpful. FWIW Germans can be black, Germans can be Muslims, _without_ migrations background and Germans could have migrations backgrounds, e.g. coming from "banana republics". It doesn't help to hide truth just because it's uncomfortable. I'm neither blond nor do I have blue eyes. I only asked t stop spreading "MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE" and directly asked to continue at Debian off-topic. I guess I'll filter this thread now as being junk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1365520669.2607.209.camel@archlinux
