Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain

2010-12-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon December 27 2010 23:55:00 Arthur Machlas wrote: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Mike Bird wrote: > > If the Apache configuration needs DNS to start, Apache silently > > and without logging anything fails to start in Squeeze.  This > > used to work correctly under the old startup mechanis

E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Yuwen Dai
Dear all, I just can not completely abandon Windows, for all the E-business related software are for Windows or IE in my country, for example, the security plug-ins released by banks in China. I don't understand why they don't develop plug-ins for Linux and Firefox. I'm just curious, how is your

Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain

2010-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:10:23 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon December 27 2010 23:55:00 Arthur Machlas wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Mike Bird wrote: >> > If the Apache configuration needs DNS to start, Apache silently and >> > without logging anything fails to start in Squeeze.  This

Re: PPTP Issues in Debian Testing/Squeeze

2010-12-28 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello, Roland Rosier a écrit : > I get a huge number of lines in my syslog saying: > > Dec 27 12:51:54 x pptp[5043]: anon log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:414]: > buffering packet 20895 (expecting 20894, lost or reordered) 1) It could be a packet loss issue at the link layer level. Run a packet sn

Re: Tool to perform same task over several hosts at same time.

2010-12-28 Thread Tommy Bongaerts
On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 08:26:55AM -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 04:21:00PM +0100, François TOURDE wrote: > > Or cssh from the clusterssh package. > > I was also going to recommend the clusterssh package. That has made my > day-to-day administration of 300+ SSH servers an a

[OT] Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:13:14 +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > I just can not completely abandon Windows, for all the E-business > related software are for Windows or IE in my country, for example, the > security plug-ins released by banks in China. I don't understand why > they don't develop plug-ins for

Re: Power-down/halt problem in Debian Squeeze

2010-12-28 Thread Неумник Некий
Sorry, Andrei. This is a firmware-related problem. Power down fails, when iternal Intel Graphics Card activated. As a solution - external graphics card. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

X Keyboard layout trouble

2010-12-28 Thread Robert Latest
Hello all, recently I re-activated my wife's 8-year-old laptop using debian stable. The installation went of course quickly and hitch-free as usual. However, what doesn't work correctly is the keyboard under X. More precisely, the symbols accessed using the "Alt Gr" key produce all sorts of charac

Re: Monitor question

2010-12-28 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Seg, 27 Dez 2010, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I built my folks a new PC last year (Athlon II X2 Rigor 2.8 w/ ATI north bridge video) and got them a 24" Asus widescreen LCD to go with it. Dad is 73 Mom is 68. Dad wears trifocals and Mom bifocals. No matter what font size (WinXP) I selected, the nat

Re: X Keyboard layout trouble

2010-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 11:21:01 +0100, Robert Latest wrote: > recently I re-activated my wife's 8-year-old laptop using debian stable. > The installation went of course quickly and hitch-free as usual. > However, what doesn't work correctly is the keyboard under X. More > precisely, the symbols acces

Re: X Keyboard layout trouble

2010-12-28 Thread Robert Cates
Hi, question - when you started the installation, did you choose a German keyboard layout? I'm somewhat new at this as well, and I don't know dwm, but I've always chosen English as my language and German with no dead-keys for my keyboard layout and I never had a problem. You can configure X

Re: Monitor question

2010-12-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 28 dec 10, 09:13:00, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > I don't know how exactly it is done, but Linux takes into account > the actual size of the display (which is reported along its > supported resolutions) and not only the resolution to determine font > sizes (and maybe icon sizes or other

Allowing network printing through Arno's IP Tables

2010-12-28 Thread AG
Greetings list I have recently installed Arno's IP Tables on my Deb testing machine and want to know how I can allow print privileges to a second computer, because my machine runs the print server (CUPS). From the second machine (also a Deb), I am unable to ping my machine (print server), so

Setting DPI (was: Monitor question)

2010-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 13:39:40 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Ma, 28 dec 10, 09:13:00, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >> >> I don't know how exactly it is done, but Linux takes into account the >> actual size of the display (which is reported along its supported >> resolutions) and not only the res

Re: dpkg upgrade: no query to proceed with upgrade

2010-12-28 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Dec 2010 at 10:29:02 -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > My Sid upgraded dpkg from 1.15.8.6->1.15.8.7 and now apt-get > dist-upgrade no longer asks if I want to proceed, but starts the upgrade > immediately. > > Anybody else notice this, or is it just me? apt, dpkg versions as B

Re: Monitor question

2010-12-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 08:24:22 je George napisal(a): If you do your work in text mode, why do you want a widescreen monitor? Widescreen is good for films but horrible when it comes to reading, which is what you normally use your computer for. It's also horrible for web browsing, and for many o

Re: dual monitor setup fails (xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default; warning: output LVDS not found; ignoring; warning: output VGA not found; ignoring)

2010-12-28 Thread Dietrich Bollmann
Hi Camaleón, On Mon, 2010-12-27 at 14:26 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 22:51:22 +0900, Dietrich Bollmann wrote: > > > Hi Camaleón, > > > > I am very grateful for your engagement and help! People like you make > > the Open Source world such an enjoyable experience! > > Trying to h

Re: dpkg upgrade: no query to proceed with upgrade

2010-12-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, My Sid upgraded dpkg from 1.15.8.6->1.15.8.7 and now apt-get dist-upgrade no longer asks if I want to proceed, but starts the upgrade immediately. Anybody else notice this, or is it just me? One day later: everything normal: /Tue Dec 28-08:17:13# apt-get dist-u

Re: Allowing network printing through Arno's IP Tables

2010-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 11:59:45 +, AG wrote: > I have recently installed Arno's IP Tables on my Deb testing machine and > want to know how I can allow print privileges to a second computer, > because my machine runs the print server (CUPS). (...) First I would test is stopping Arno's IP Tables

Re: Monitor question

2010-12-28 Thread Gilbert Sullivan
On 12/28/2010 09:40 AM, Klistvud wrote: It's also horrible for web browsing, and for many other tasks. It actually only has two uses I can think of: widescreen movies and side-by-side document viewing. Given that movies are best viewed on large TV sets anyway, the usefulness of widescreen compute

Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 27. 12. 2010 18:43:06 je Camaleón napisal(a): I still fail to see what people find exciting in Apple devices. Yes, they look nice but they're also even more closed than any MS product >:-) It must be their price. In our profit-centered culture, anything overly expensive seems to in

Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 09:13:14 je Yuwen Dai napisal(a): Dear all, I just can not completely abandon Windows, for all the E-business related software are for Windows or IE in my country, for example, the security plug-ins released by banks in China. I don't understand why they don't develop plug

Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-28 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Bannister wrote: > Try burning a netinst image on to a new CDR disk with the command: > > wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda .iso > > where .iso is the netinst image you download from the Debian site. Okay already, this time I did *exactly

Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-28 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 shawn wilson wrote: > First, I would burn something to see if it works. Look at the bottom of the > wodim man page for examples of the process. Then dd the cd back to a file > (ex - dd if=/dev/cdrom of=copy.iso). Then ls -l and compare sizes and do a >

Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain

2010-12-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue December 28 2010 01:31:50 Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:10:23 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > > Is it possible to go back to the old system? > > If you mean "how to disable dependency booting" yes, you can disable it > to get the old behaviour, but you will still have to ensure bind9 is

Re: Monitor question

2010-12-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 15:49:26 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a): On 12/28/2010 09:40 AM, Klistvud wrote: > > It's also horrible for web browsing, and for many other tasks. It > actually only has two uses I can think of: widescreen movies and > side-by-side document viewing. Given that movies are best vi

Re: USB soundbar as default audio device

2010-12-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 03:35:01PM EST, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > Chris Jones wrote: > > > Maybe I should send it back & use the compatiblity lists to try > > > and get something that's supported out of the box. > > Consider a Lexicon Alpha (US$60) or Lexicon Omega (US$180). See > broadcast

Re: USB soundbar as default audio device

2010-12-28 Thread Dotan Cohen
Ubuntu is now heavily invested in Pulse Audio so what you learn in Debian won't necessarily apply there. You might want to convince your friend to use Debian instead. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: USB soundbar as default audio device

2010-12-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 03:26:12PM EST, deloptes wrote: > Chris Jones wrote: > >> > input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.10 Device [HOLTEK  AudioHub Speaker] on > >> > usb-:00:07.2-1.4.4 usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device found, > >> > idVendor=046d, idProduct=0a0e usb 1-1.4.4: New USB device > >> > strings: Mf

Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain

2010-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 10:06:58 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Tue December 28 2010 01:31:50 Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:10:23 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: >> > Is it possible to go back to the old system? >> >> If you mean "how to disable dependency booting" yes, you can disable it >> to get

Re: Monitor question

2010-12-28 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:11:28 +0100, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 28. 12. 2010 15:49:26 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a): >> On 12/28/2010 09:40 AM, Klistvud wrote: >> > >> > It's also horrible for web browsing, and for many other tasks. It >> > actually only has two uses I can think of: widescreen movies a

dumb question about blu ray drive configuration and playing blu ray movies etc....

2010-12-28 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debian folks, I have been investigating the world of 3D TV and Blu ray players etc.. I also found a blu ray drive for a PC in a store I visited. Googling around seems to produce some funny results. Some web pages say that no OS can handle blu ray including Windows 7 even though the dri

dumb question about blu ray drive configuration and playing blu ray movies etc....

2010-12-28 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debian folks, I have been investigating the world of 3D TV and Blu ray players etc..  I also found a blu ray drive for a PC in a store I visited.  Googling around seems to produce some funny results.  Some web pages say that no OS can handle blu ray including Windows 7 even though the dr

Re: o/t ipod

2010-12-28 Thread shawn wilson
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 8:24 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Dec 26, 2010 7:57 AM, "Ted Wager" wrote: >> >> My son has bought me an ipodtouch for Xmas..Anyone tell me how I can >> transfer the music files on his ipod to mine ?..I only have Linux on my >> machines but can get access to a Winbox at

Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain

2010-12-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue December 28 2010 10:56:48 Camaleón wrote: > JFYI: > > apache2: fails to start with dependency based boot if DNS is required by > configuration > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606334 Thank you for the link but the bug is not in Apache. The bug is the poorly thought out an

Re: RLIMIT_MEMLOCK prevents burning CDROM

2010-12-28 Thread shawn wilson
> wodim: Asuming -tao mode. not sure how old your burner is, but just for the hell of it, try -dao and see what you get. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.

Installed Debian today.

2010-12-28 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
After 2.5 year with GNU/Linux , I finally migrated to best Distro ie Debian, I will be sending improvement and my problems in blog format with my new journey with Debian. Also I have given my life time commitment to Debian project. Thanks http://blog.narendrasisodiya.com/2010/12/for-indian-debian-

Re: Monitor question

2010-12-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 08:46:38PM EST, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Chris Jones put forth on 12/27/2010 7:00 PM: > > On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:57:31AM EST, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:30:57 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > > [..] > > > >> When it comes to LCD/TFT, you have to pay at

Re: USB soundbar as default audio device

2010-12-28 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 01:46:13PM EST, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Ubuntu is now heavily invested in Pulse Audio so what you learn in > Debian won't necessarily apply there. You might want to convince your > friend to use Debian instead. Hm. I may end up doing that.. What's the deal with Pulse Audio.

Re: Installed Debian today.

2010-12-28 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 28. 12. 2010 21:40:47 je Narendra Sisodiya napisal(a): After 2.5 year with GNU/Linux , I finally migrated to best Distro ie Debian, I will be sending improvement and my problems in blog format with my new journey with Debian. Also I have given my life time commitment to Debian project. Th

Re (2): chronyc settime and digital clock in LXDE in Squeeze

2010-12-28 Thread peasthope
pe> After chronyc settime 16:50 the clock displays 4:50. From: John Hasler Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 19:39:19 -0600 > What did it display before the chronyc command? 4:50 ... or might have been 4:49. I click slowly. My explanation should have been more clear. In the BIOS on Joule the clock

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RE: PPTP Issues in Debian Testing/Squeeze

2010-12-28 Thread Roland Rosier
Hello Pascal and Russell, > Roland Rosier a écrit : > > I get a huge number of lines in my syslog saying: > > > > Dec 27 12:51:54 x pptp[5043]: anon log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:414]: > > buffering packet 20895 (expecting 20894, lost or reordered) > > 1) It could be a packet loss issue at the li

Re: dumb question about blu ray drive configuration and playing blu ray movies etc....

2010-12-28 Thread Javier Vasquez
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: > ... > Can you burn blu ray disks in debian? >... > Michael Fothergill Hmm, as far as I know the original cdrecord [1] from the original cdrtools has been advertised to burn BluRay for quiet a while now. I don't have BluRay media, so I

CDROM burning problem - new approach

2010-12-28 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Since I have two DVD/CD rewritable drive units in two different boxes, it occurred to me to swap the two and see what would happen. Here is the result: k...@sol:~/downloads$ wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda debian-507-i386-kde-CD-1.iso wodim: No write m

Re: CDROM burning problem - new approach

2010-12-28 Thread Chance Platt
On 12/28/2010 05:26 PM, Ken Heard wrote: Since I have two DVD/CD rewritable drive units in two different boxes, it occurred to me to swap the two and see what would happen. Here is the result: k...@sol:~/downloads$ wodim -v speed=2 dev=/dev/hda ... wodim: fifo had 10699 puts and 10699 gets.

Re: [OT] Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Yuwen Dai
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:13:14 +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: > > > I just can not completely abandon Windows, for all the E-business > > related software are for Windows or IE in my country, for example, the > > security plug-ins released by banks in Chi

Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Yuwen Dai
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 28. 12. 2010 09:13:14 je Yuwen Dai napisal(a): > > Dear all, >> >> I just can not completely abandon Windows, for all the E-business related >> software are for Windows or IE in my country, for example, the security >> plug-ins released by

Re: [OT] Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread John Hasler
Yuwen Dai writes: > The situation is the same in all countries... I get along fine using only Debian here in the USA. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://l

Re: Debian Squeeze and Intel 82830 GC on Thinkpad X30

2010-12-28 Thread Stefan Monnier
> So you use KMS and get good performance? I'm not very sensitive to video performance, but I didn't notice any particularly slow operation. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

Re: [OT] Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread francis southern
On 28 December 2010 20:23, John Hasler wrote: > Yuwen Dai writes: >> The situation is the same in all countries... > > I get along fine using only Debian here in the USA. > -- > John Hasler > Actually, Camaleón said that, not Yuwen Dai. You should be careful with your quoting! And, I've had no

Re: [OT] Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/12/29 francis southern : > On 28 December 2010 20:23, John Hasler wrote: >> Yuwen Dai writes: >>> The situation is the same in all countries... >> >> I get along fine using only Debian here in the USA. >> -- >> John Hasler >> > > Actually, Camaleón said that, not Yuwen Dai.  You should be car

Re: [OT] Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Yuwen Dai
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: > 2010/12/29 francis southern : > > On 28 December 2010 20:23, John Hasler wrote: > >> Yuwen Dai writes: > >>> The situation is the same in all countries... > >> > >> I get along fine using only Debian here in the USA. > >> -- > >> John Hasle

Re: [OT] Re: E-business and Linux

2010-12-28 Thread Eero Volotinen
>> No problems *) with banking on Finland, using only Linux or Mac > > That's great.  Will the bank ask you to install any software developed for > Linux? No, only sampo bank requires some custom java applet. -- Eero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subjec

sox and gnome problem

2010-12-28 Thread Jude DaShiell
A friend has gnome with orca running on debian. He installed sox with all dependencies aptitude install sox -r and once done he can't play any of his media files any more in gnome. I'm curious, what package broke gnome's ability to play media files when installed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain

2010-12-28 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon December 27 2010 23:55:00 Arthur Machlas wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Mike Bird wrote: >>> >> > If the Apache configuration needs DNS to start, Apache silently >> > and without logging anything fails to start in Squeeze. Thi