Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
I would like to compile a GTK+ application from source (hitori-0.2.5) so that I can play with the source code. I followed the instructions up to ./configure which reports missing packages: No package 'glib-2.0' found No package 'gtk+-2.0' found No package 'gmodule-2.0' found No package 'cairo' foun

Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions

2010-12-16 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, David Gaudine wrote: > On 10-12-10 10:22 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:57 PM, David Gaudine > wrote: >>> >>> grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda >>> grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sdb >>> >> grub-install /dev/sda >> grub-install

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread teddieeb
Ressell Gadd said so I think I should start with a clean system. At present I use Lenny (AMD64) with a couple of backports (maybe they are part of the problem), although I do multiboot several OS's and I can install another easily. So I think I may install another OS just for this project (which

Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions

2010-12-16 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > > I have not previously ever changed a hostname in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf > and not had a problem renaming systems.  My mdadm.conf files don't > contain the actual hostname. Look up the HOSTNAME directive in the mdadm.conf man page. The default

Re: xserver-testing issues.

2010-12-16 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: > As per display resolution... let's see what can be done. In brief: > you are using the radeon driver and have 2 monitors attached to the > card. With no "xorg.conf" your system is happier but your display > uses a lower resolution, okay... I need add

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-12-16 08:44 +0100, Russell Gadd wrote: > I would like to compile a GTK+ application from source (hitori-0.2.5) > so that I can play with the source code. I followed the instructions > up to ./configure which reports missing packages: > No package 'glib-2.0' found > No package 'gtk+-2.0' fo

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread debian
I would suggest also use virtual machine for test propose as sandbox, and you can always easy recover it from snapshots. Nowadays limitation with hardware is not so critical especially for linux/unix based OS not working with GUI. Read about XEN also. BR 16.12.2010 9:14, teddi...@tmo.blackberr

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread shawn wilson
> > Oricle's Virtual Box is a good simple to use Virtulization software if your interested. > Virtualbox would be a good start. Kvm would be better. Eats up less processor and I think they've got some memory sharing between Unixes.

Re: sudo command not necessary (was Re: help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive)

2010-12-16 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:52:23PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 03:48:52AM -0500, Doug wrote: >>> >>> I suspect it will work in any Linux, if you modify the sudoers file to add >> >> Right! *IF* you modify the su

evolution-backup.tar.gz

2010-12-16 Thread wi
Hallo, ich sichere meine E-Mails in evolution stets über "Einstellungen sichern". Jetzt habe ich zum ersten Mal das Problem, dass es nicht funktioniert. Es wird die Meldung: unexpected end of file angezeigt. Der Befehl gzip -cd evolution-backup.tar.gz | tar -xvf - im Terminal ausgeführt liefert:

Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process

2010-12-16 Thread Juan Ignacio Gaudio
Hello, I broke my X (again) trying to install a graphics device driver on my Vostro 1000, so now I don't have video and the keyboard does not respond. I just need to be able to change to a console tty and restore the previous xorg.conf. But as X starts automatically I can't manage to do that befo

Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process

2010-12-16 Thread teddieeb
You can instruct the OS to boot into a diffrent run level by editing the kernel line before you boot it in grub. It will affect only that boot. I don't have the comand syntex infront of me, but a google for it should produce the info. -Original Message- From: Juan Ignacio Gaudio Date

Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process

2010-12-16 Thread Juan Ignacio Gaudio
Hello, I searched it and turned up to be pretty simple. It's just needed to append the runlevel number to the kernel line, something like this example: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30 root=/dev/sda2 ro 3 Thanks, Juan 2010/12/16 > > You can instruct the OS to boot into a diffrent run level by edi

Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Cхемы зaконнoй оптимизации бизнeca
- | СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА: | | OФФШОPЫ, ОHШОРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ. | | ПPАKТИЧЕСКИЕ CХЕМЫ И PЕКОМЕНДАЦИИ| - > Ceминар • 24 нoябpя • 2010 г. > г. Kиeв, ул. Гopькoго, 172 >

Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: > > - > | СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА: | > | OФФШОPЫ, ОHШОРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ. | > | ПPАKТИЧЕСКИЕ CХЕМЫ И PЕКОМЕНДАЦИИ| > - > > .

Fwd: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
On 16 December 2010 08:14,   wrote: > > > > One thing I may suggest is look into the use of virtual machines for > something like this. You can install and run the OS of your choosing in a > window ontop of your main system, > > This has the advantages of sandboxing your experiments, having

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
On 16 December 2010 08:41, Sven Joachim wrote: > (see above post) Thanks Sven, you have confirmed with useful detail the vague ideas I had. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

gtkam cannot initialize Canon camera in Squeeze Testing

2010-12-16 Thread Chris Lale
gtkam has stopped working after a dist upgrade in Squeeze (Testing). It still works on my laptop. Both are running amd64 packages. The computer with the problem is running software raid on two hard drives. The camera used to work and is still detected correctly as "Canon Digital IXUS 80 IS", but g

Time zone utility to read olson database

2010-12-16 Thread Adrian Chapela
Hello, I am looking for tz the reader of olson database (tzdata). Where can I get it ? I am looking the official (http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm) URL and I was searching in Debian repository and I couldn't find any utility to read the database file. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread shirish शिरीष
In-line :- 2010/12/10 shirish शिरीष : > rsync, have really no idea. I followed the discussion on the web. So from what I learnt it should be something like this :- $ rsync -avzP ftp.de.debian.org::debian-cd/ /sda8/ where /sda8/ is where the download will happen. > So ideas, ways please. I wa

Unidentified subject!

2010-12-16 Thread Некий Неумник
So, sorry for delay. There are some debian users without stable Internet Access. I'm one of them So... . [ ... ] ACPI: preparing to enter system sleep state S5 [ ... ] Disabling non-boot CPUs [ ... ] CPU 1 now offline [ ... ] SMP alternatives switching to UP code [ ... ] Power down -- To

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, shirish शिरीष wrote: I followed the discussion on the web. So from what I learnt it should be something like this :- $ rsync -avzP ftp.de.debian.org::debian-cd/ /sda8/ I tried it too, with the $SITE variable set, this is my take: rsync -avzP --delete ${SITE}::debian-cd/ ./debian-cd-mirro

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Andrew McGlashan wrote: I might do a dry run, just to get a full listing as well. There are sure to be many files that I'm downloading that will have no real use for me as most of the time I just use a netinst iso. And of course, the whole deal starts again when there is a newer release, a mi

Re: debian list problem

2010-12-16 Thread godo
I have a similar problem with the Debian mailing list, tho' not with my other lists. My emails are periodically bounced. In my case it appears that the list filters suddenly take objection to teh fact taht I send through my ISP and receive through GMail. Since this is what I want to do, so if

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Andrew McGlashan wrote: Andrew McGlashan wrote: The dry run shows ONLY version 5.0.7 downlaods, plus a little more in "project" files. To get a dry run with rsync, use the "n" option, just like you added the "P" option before. The SITE I am using is as follows: SITE=mirrors.kernel.org

Re: Time zone utility to read olson database

2010-12-16 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 14:45 +0100, Adrian Chapela wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for tz the reader of olson database (tzdata). Where can I > get it ? I am looking the official > (http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm) URL and I was searching in > Debian repository and I couldn't find any utility

Re: Оффшоpы, онш opы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20101216_065627, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: > > > > - > > | СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА: | > > | OФФШОPЫ, ОHШОРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ. | > > | ПPАKТИЧЕСКИЕ CХЕМЫ И PЕКОМЕНДАЦИИ|

Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qui, 16 Dez 2010, Paul E Condon wrote: I can't read Cyrillic, but the From: line contains which doesn't seem to be a Russian address. Also the content is Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1251 And multiple occurances of the strint "International Consulting Group" I suspect this is

Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions

2010-12-16 Thread David Gaudine
On 10-12-16 3:13 AM, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, David Gaudine wrote: The temporary hostname is in each ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. I've never seen a hostname value on the ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. Are you confusing hostname and array name? The array name is based on the hos

Re: sudo command not necessary (was Re: help getting grub to see Windows 7 on second drive)

2010-12-16 Thread shawn wilson
> In fact: > r...@fischer:~# apt-cache show sudo > Package: sudo > Priority: optional > ... > > which means the sudo package isn't even installed by default. Imagine > you are new to Debian, and manage to send a message to debian-user where > the advice: "sudo " is given. You try it, get command no

Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoп ейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Carl Johnson
Paul E Condon writes: > On 20101216_065627, Stephen Powell wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: >> > >> > - >> > | СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА: | >> > | OФФШОPЫ, ОHШОРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ. | >> > | ПPАKТИЧЕСКИ

Russian SPAM

2010-12-16 Thread Slicky Johnson
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Re: Russian SPAM

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Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I have not previously ever changed a hostname in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf > > and not had a problem renaming systems. My mdadm.conf files don't > > contain the actual hostname. > > Look up the HOSTNAME directive in the mdadm.conf man page. > > The default is "HO

Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Goldshtein
2010/12/16 Stephen Powell : > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: >> >> - >> |  СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА:      | >> |  OФФШОPЫ, ОHШОРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ.  | >> |  ПPАKТИЧЕСКИЕ CХЕМЫ И PЕКОМЕНДАЦИИ        | >> -

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Sven Joachim wrote: > Russell Gadd wrote: > > I would like to compile a GTK+ application from source (hitori-0.2.5) > > so that I can play with the source code. I followed the instructions > > up to ./configure which reports missing packages: > > ... > > You need the development packages for these

Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Alexey Salmin
2010/12/16 Mark Goldshtein : > 2010/12/16 Stephen Powell : >> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: >>> >>> - >>> |  СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА:      | >>> |  OФФШОPЫ, ОHШОРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ.  | >>> |  ПPАKТИЧЕСКИЕ CХЕМЫ И PЕКОМ

Re: Time zone utility to read olson database

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Adrian Chapela wrote: > I am looking for tz the reader of olson database (tzdata). Where can I > get it ? I am looking the official > (http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm) URL and I was searching in > Debian repository and I couldn't find any utility to read the database file. zdump? Examples h

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Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Goldshtein
2010/12/16 Alexey Salmin : > 2010/12/16 Mark Goldshtein : >> 2010/12/16 Stephen Powell : >>> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: - |  СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА:      | |  OФФШОPЫ, ОHШОРЫ И ЕBРОПЕЙСКИЕ KOМПАНИИ.  

Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Alexey Salmin
2010/12/17 Mark Goldshtein : > 2010/12/16 Alexey Salmin : >> 2010/12/16 Mark Goldshtein : >>> 2010/12/16 Stephen Powell : On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: > > - > |  СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИМИЗAЦИИ БИЗНЕCА:      | > |  OФФ

Re: Spontaneously aborting X startup during Linux boot process

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Juan Ignacio Gaudio wrote: > > I just need to be able to change to a console tty and restore the previous > > xorg.conf. But as X starts automatically I can't manage to do that before X > > crashes and I lose the keyboard again... do you know of a way of changing > > the runlevel to just console (n

Re: Can not set execute permission to file in usb storage media with fat32 format

2010-12-16 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:16:11 +0800, gulfstream wrote: > I want to execute some script file in usb storage media with fat32 > format, but I can not set execute permission to them with "chown +x". > What shall I do? You can try to set the default mount options for vfat storage media by using GNOME

Re: Оффшоpы, оншopы и eвpoпейские кoмпaнии

2010-12-16 Thread Mark Goldshtein
2010/12/16 Alexey Salmin : > 2010/12/17 Mark Goldshtein : >> 2010/12/16 Alexey Salmin : >>> 2010/12/16 Mark Goldshtein : 2010/12/16 Stephen Powell : > On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 06:21:02 -0500 (EST), wrote: >> >> - >> |  СХEМЫ ЗАКOННОЙ OПТИ

Re: Can not set execute permission to file in usb storage media with fat32 format

2010-12-16 Thread Atif CEYLAN
Hi, Do you receive any error message? Also, did you try as root? On 12/16/2010 08:56 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:16:11 +0800, gulfstream wrote: I want to execute some script file in usb storage media with fat32 format, but I can not set execute permission to them with "chown

how to make pdnsd listen on all interfaces?

2010-12-16 Thread Martin Kraus
Hello. I'm trying to get pdnsd to listen on all interfaces. server_ip=any should work but it always listens only on 127.0.0.1 even with several other interfaces present. is this a bug or am I missing something? thanks mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: xserver-testing issues.

2010-12-16 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 15:32:20 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón: > >> - What is the setup you want? Dual screen in clone mode or xinerama >> mode? Only one screen enabled and the other disabled (off)? > > One (bigger) is enabled, lesser - disabled. I turn off

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread shirish शिरीष
In-line :- 2010/12/16 Andrew McGlashan : > Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> >> Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> The dry run shows ONLY version 5.0.7 downlaods, plus a little more in >> "project" files. >> >> To get a dry run with rsync, use the "n" option, just like you added the >> "P" option before. >> >> T

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread shirish शिरीष
Hi all, Now reading through the whole thing it seems it should be something like this :- rsync -avzP --exclude=source/ --exclude='*businesscard*.iso' --exclude='*netinst*.iso' --exclude=alpha/ --exclude=arm/ --exclude=hppa/ --exclude=hurd/ --exclude=ia64/ --exclude=m68k/ --exclude=mips/ --exclude=

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread shirish शिरीष
Hi all, Disregard the above, re-read the mirroring page and this is what it should look like - rsync --times --links --hard-links --partial -archive -verbose -compress --block-size=8192 --exclude=source/ --exclude='*businesscard*.iso' --exclude='*netinst*.iso' --exclude=alpha/ --exclude=arm/ --ex

Re: using jigdo or/and rsync to keep images freshen.

2010-12-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
* shirish ??? [101216 21:21]: > Hi all, > Disregard the above, re-read the mirroring page and this is what it > should look like - > > rsync --times --links --hard-links --partial -archive -verbose > -compress --block-size=8192 --exclude=source/ > --exclude='*businesscard*.iso' --exc

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Russell Gadd
On 16 December 2010 17:53, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Hint: APT'S 'build-dep' makes this easy.  Since this is already in > Squeeze then if you were running squeeze you could install all of the > build dependencies for that version by using apt. > >  $ sudo apt-get build-dep hitori > Thanks, most us

Re: usb drive nolonger registers on one pc, still registers on another

2010-12-16 Thread Thomas H. George
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 02:54:54PM +, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:46:21 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 07:31:30PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > > >> Just for testing purposes... what happens if you disconnect the USB > >> cable of the UPS unit

Re: Mozilla products in Debian

2010-12-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 14 dec 10, 09:37:29, Lisi wrote: > > > > > > I was under the (mis?)apprehension that things were only installed from > > > backports if I specifically asked for them, i.e. "-t lenny-backports" was > > > added to aptitude, and were only updated if already installed. > > > > 'apt-cache policy

Re: how to make pdnsd listen on all interfaces?

2010-12-16 Thread Geoff Simmons
Hi Martin, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 07:56:47PM +0100, Martin Kraus wrote: > I'm trying to get pdnsd to listen on all interfaces. server_ip=any > should work but it always listens only on 127.0.0.1 even with several > other interfaces present. is this a bug or am I missing something? The pdnsd pack

Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions

2010-12-16 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, David Gaudine wrote: > On 10-12-16 3:13 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:59 AM, David Gaudine >>  wrote: >>> >>> The temporary hostname is in each ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. >> >> I've never seen a hostname value on the ARRAY line in mdadm.conf. Are

Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions

2010-12-16 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >>> >>> I have not previously ever changed a hostname in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf >>> and not had a problem renaming systems. My mdadm.conf files don't >>> contain the actual hostname. >> >> Look up the HOSTNAME d

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2010-12-16 Thread Randy L Cheng
-- *You can not hide it because the news will soon be every where if you dont get back to me on time, i have some pictures of it with me and i am ready to expose you to the world if after 2 day you do not get back to me, don't try to thinks of how i knew it because it is a mystry. you sins have fo

Wireless internet for squeeze desktop

2010-12-16 Thread Peter Tenenbaum
Hi, everyone -- In the near future I need to change the network setup for my desktop squeeze workstation so that it uses a wireless internet connection (it's using the ethernet spigot right now). Can anyone suggest a wireless card or wireless USB adaptor which has good compatibility / support in

Re: RAID1 with multiple partitions

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Both "mdadm --detail /dev/mdX" and "mdadm --examine /dev/sdXY" will > output "(local to host )" on the uuid line for metadata > v0.90 and on the name line for metadata v1.x. I never see that[1] and therefore conclude that if HOMEHOST is never set in the configuration file that it wi

Re: Which OS to install?

2010-12-16 Thread Bob Proulx
Russell Gadd wrote: > Again, thanks. I've just completed an install of Squeeze now so will > try all this. Actually I'm using AMD64 again (same as my Lenny). > Thought of using X86 to be "safe" but I figured that if 64 bit > graphics work ok it shouldn't be an issue. Or is this too naive? I have b

Re: Wireless internet for squeeze desktop

2010-12-16 Thread George
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: > In the near future I need to change the network setup for my desktop squeeze > workstation so that it uses a wireless internet connection (it's using the > ethernet spigot right now).  Can anyone suggest a wireless card or wireless > USB a