Re: Debian GNU/Linux 3.1r5 booting process aborted during installation.

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 03:41:34PM +0900, KUMANOSUKE wrote: > Dear Andrew, [...] > > You're welcome. > I'd like to reply to the list also from now on. > > > The k7 kernel seems to have been installed automatically > during the installation process. > I've got "debian-31r5-i386-binary-1.iso" file

Re: Debian 4

2007-03-01 Thread John W. Foster
On Monday 26 February 2007 17:19, Phil Walton wrote: stuff snipped > I accept all of that. My main point was how misleading it is to be > publishing headlines about an "upcoming" release when clearly nothing of > the sort exists. REPLY

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070228 18:21]: > > > I remember reading an article in a German audiophile magazine > > > about a device to demagnetize CDs. The author claimed the sound > > > to be much better af

Re: Debian 4

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:07:30 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:54:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:19:23 + > > Phil Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I accept all of that. My main point was how misleading i

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070228 18:21]: I remember reading an article in a German audiophile magazine about a device to demagnetize CDs. The author claimed the

Re: Start over with Speedtouch was (Re: how to send ...)

2007-03-01 Thread Jordi
Thanks for your recommendations Greg In linksys they say: "* All-in-one Internet-sharing Router, 4-port Switch, and Wireless- G (802.11g) Access Point * Shares a single Internet connection and other resources with Ethernet wired and Wireless-G clients * Wireless data rates up to 54Mbps

Re: static IP

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On 28 Feb 2007 22:37:27 -0800 "Jordi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, Andrew > > So I leave it that way. > Why I saw sometimes in some web sites this kind of static ips starting > by 10.xxx.xxx.xxx and /number ? There are three ranges of IP numbers reserved for "private" (as in non-internet) us

Qemu and tun/tab usage - /dev/net/tun permissions

2007-03-01 Thread Bob McGowan
Hi, I'm trying to set up bridged networking for a Qemu guest system. The doc I have says I need to do a 'chmod 666 /dev/net/tun' to be able to do this. And, I see the permissions on it are: crw--- 1 root root 10, 200 2007-02-27 16:28 /dev/net/tun So, methinks, I should fix the udev con

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Mitja Podreka wrote: >> It can comfortably run at speeds which are within the >> speed limits and is probably as safe as >> Hummer and similar monsters. > > If you think "well within speed limits" and "safe" are one and the > same, > you're sorely mistaken. What a lot

OT: Speed Freaks (was Re: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mitja Podreka wrote: > What I meant is: "why do you need a car which can go 250km/h if your > country doesn't allow you to go faster than 130km/h." > Saying that I must say that driving 130km/h with Yugo or same speed in > BMW is completely different t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should > drive, how they should live, etc  You ought to be using Windows, not > an OS built on freedom of choice You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than in difference, right? --

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Jordi wrote: > Hello Paul > >> RFC says stealth should never be used. > > And if I don't use stealth, what do I use? I thought by what we talked > here that ports in linux are closed if I don't forward them. Closed sends an actual closed response, stealth is like trying to talk to Terry Schaivo

Re: OT: Speed Freaks (was Re: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-03-01 Thread Michael Dominok
Am Donnerstag, den 01.03.2007, 21:09 +0100 schrieb Joe Hart: > I managed to get my old Opel Vectra 2.0 up to 220 km/h (136 mph for you > Americans), which is not too shabby. Things come at you pretty quick at > that speed. Seeing you eMail-Address i have to ask: Was this with or without a trailer

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Jordi
I take note, John and Roberto. John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a hardware firewall. Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be an expert. I will try to do as you say, and learn a bit. Thanks for your opinions. Jordi On 1 mar, 19:50, "R

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 08:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 1 Mar, Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Joe Hart wrote: >>> > [snip] >> the public transportation is much quicker there. I doubt that any road >> design could compete with a good public tran

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/28/07 20:24, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:16:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > [snip] >>> >> I know what you mean. I drive a '97 Mazda. I get 33-36 MPG in mixed >> city/highway (daily commu

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> I also have a 1969 Oldsmobile 442, a 1984 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais >> and a 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme Classic (being a reworked and >> completely fluffed up remaining 1987's that were not sold). All have >> had the engines,

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Juergen Fiedler wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote: >> Hello >> >> I saw two good firewalls: >> - Firestarter wich is easy >> - Shorewall wich seems versatile >> >> Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:31, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 > "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070228 18:21]: I remember reading an article in a German audiophile magazine >>

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert wrote: > So, I guess Al Gore using a private jet and huge limos and other large > contingents of vehicles makes him a non-enemy (yes, I used that term > intentionally). Al Gore, quite famously, drives himself around in a Prius. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:44, Andrew Perrin wrote: > On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 >> "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070228 18:21]: [snip] > http://www.6moons

Re: linux-image-2.6-486 vs. linux-image -2.6-

2007-03-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 10:44:33AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Is there a place where the difference between these latest kernel binary images is documented, other

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 12:59, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/28/07 20:24, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 07:16:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: >> [snip] >>> I know

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Mitja Podreka wrote: > What I meant is: "why do you need a car which can go 250km/h if your > country doesn't allow you to go faster than 130km/h." Uhm, because maybe you'll drive it somewhere other than where speed is limited? That not everyone just putters along and that speed and you might

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > Freddy Freeloader wrote: > >> Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should >> drive, how they should live, etc You ought to be using Windows, not >> an OS built on freedom of choice

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:44, Andrew Perrin wrote: On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:11:04 -0600 "Russell L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070228 1

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 14:19, Joe Hart wrote: [snip] > Can you be a little more careful in your editing (snipping)? You are > crediting me with statements that I didn't make. Sorry. > As for dense and good, they are both quite relative. The city I live in > h

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > #3) Locomotives are *not* /hybrids/. Er... wha? Diesel engine which powers the electric engine. Hybrid car is a gas engine powering an electric one. Are you saying the difference in fuel is what makes a loco non-hybrid? -- Steve C. Lamb | But who deci

Re: What's the best way to backup to dvd?

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Joe Hart wrote: > I think you hit it on the head. Because it's available. One of the > quirks of living in this liberal country is that it is _not_ illegal to > download films and music from the internet. Some loophole in the > copyright law. I always thought it was a strange dichotomy that I

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 13:03, Pete Clarke wrote: > Hi there, > > What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within > Linux .. > I would like to use Sarge, standard PC - and attach something like the > WD My Book Pro 1TB drive, ideally via

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Paul Johnson wrote: > Greg Folkert wrote: >> So, I guess Al Gore using a private jet and huge limos and other large >> contingents of vehicles makes him a non-enemy (yes, I used that term >> intentionally). > Al Gore, quite famously, drives himself around in a Prius. While spending more in a

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > While it's true that public transportation is not a good solution > for much of rural America, it's also true that it is woefully underused > areas where it could work. Er... in what reality? Pretty much every major metro area that has tried public transportat

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > two for one: > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:38:24PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> > >> > Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are >> > two of 'em a crutch for not lea

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on your > specific situation. :-) You mean like the people who are making generalizations based on their specific situation? "Oh, it's great for me to bike everywhere!" Peachy, doesn't count for the vas

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: >> Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are two >> of 'em a crutch for not leaning on your local officials to fix public >> transport? > > Paul, public transportation is a farce, plain and simple. It comes > down to one simple f

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Joe Hart wrote: > You're quite right that it would take 2 hours to complete a bus trip of > 20 miles there. Here on the other hand, the same trip would take most > likely 20 minutes because there are dedicated bus routes, so they don't > have to mess with the traffic. It does make stops frequentl

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:40:13PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > Greg Folkert wrote: > > >> So, I guess Al Gore using a private jet and huge limos and other large > >> contingents of vehicles makes him a non-enemy (yes, I used that term > >> intentionally). > > > Al Gore, qui

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 07:03:46PM -, Pete Clarke wrote: > Hi there, > > What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within > Linux .. > I would like to use Sarge, standard PC - and attach something like the WD > My Book Pro 1TB drive, ideally via firewire... I have a

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:35:00AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Freddy Freeloader wrote: > > > Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should > > drive, how they should live, etc  You ought to be using Windows, not > > an OS built on freedom of choice > > You realize

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Franck Joncourt
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > I take note, John and Roberto. > > John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a > hardware firewall. > Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be > an expert. I will try to do as you say, and

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:04:54 +0100 Mitja Podreka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Cars like Hummer, 18 meters long limos, excessively "pimped" group > 1. cars,... > Needed for driving oversized egos American readers must also consider the different culture/income. I can confirm that, while roads a

Re: Debian 4

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:44:16PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:07:30 -0500 > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:54:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:19:23 + > > > Phil Walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Firestarter VS Shorewall

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote: > > I take note, John and Roberto. > > > > John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a > > hardware firewall. > > Roverto, seems you like to do a control

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Pete Clarke
I have a RAID1 running on a pair of external FW drives. I've found that Linux is picky about the chipset on the external drives, however, and have had some cases that work under MacOS X not work at all under Linux. I also ran into a situation in which two identical cases could not be distinguished

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 14:38, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> #3) Locomotives are *not* /hybrids/. > > Er... wha? Diesel engine which powers the electric engine. Hybrid car is > a gas engine powering an electric one. Are you saying the differenc

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 01 March 2007 15:40, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than in > difference, right? False. Socialist practices are ones of state concentration of power, collectiv

Re: OT: Speed Freaks (was Re: a dumb query? pls humor me)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Dominok wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 01.03.2007, 21:09 +0100 schrieb Joe Hart: >> I managed to get my old Opel Vectra 2.0 up to 220 km/h (136 mph for you >> Americans), which is not too shabby. Things come at you pretty quick at >> that speed.

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:28:57 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For all you non-believers (sorry, too much religion in recent > > threads) here is a similar article: > > > > http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/furutech/rd2.html > > Just because some some snob audiophile says we must

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Freddy Freeloader
Paul Johnson wrote: Freddy Freeloader wrote: Another liberal wanting to decide for everyone else what they should drive, how they should live, etc You ought to be using Windows, not an OS built on freedom of choice You realize that GNU and socialism have more in common than i

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:45:42 -0800 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on > > your specific situation. :-) > > You mean like the people who are making generalizations based on > their specific situ

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > Detached single family dwellings, row housing or apartment buildings? All of the above, as well as duplex housing (2 houses 1 roof). The closer you get to the center of the city the higher the apartment buildings, but most of th

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> You're quite right that it would take 2 hours to complete a bus trip of >> 20 miles there. Here on the other hand, the same trip would take most >> likely 20 minutes because there are dedicated bus routes, so the

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 23:42 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:45:42 -0800 > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on > > > your specific situation. :-) > > > > You mean like

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 15:36, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:28:57 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> For all you non-believers (sorry, too much religion in recent >>> threads) here is a similar article: >>> >>> http://www.6moon

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 15:51, Joe Hart wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: >> Joe Hart wrote: [snip] > However, I was exaggerating a bit. To go the 26 km from here to > Amsterdam, it takes about a half of an hour with the car or the bus. > The difference is I have to fin

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 15:42, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:45:42 -0800 > Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> What's foolish here is your making generalizations based on >>> your specific situation. :-)

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
>>> For all you non-believers (sorry, too much religion in recent >>> threads) here is a similar article: >>> >>> http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/furutech/rd2.html The proponents of CD degaussing are nothing more than witch doctors practicing voodoo. Voodoo has power only to the extent that t

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:11:27PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > > "A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, > under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human > being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who act > consistently with this prin

Re: Audio recording hardware

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:36:49PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > 2. Try to explain to a non-geek the differences between vim and emacs. > Very simple: vim is a good text editor, whilst emacs is an operating system lacking a good text editor :-) Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 10:43:44PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > > Reston was designed as a place where one could live, shop and work > without having to leave the community. Each subdivision has it's own > shopping center, and office buildings are scattered throughout. There > are also bicycle/walki

Re: who is responsible to keep the list of used $DISPLAYs at system level

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 05:51:53PM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Thank you Roberto, > > The problem seems to boil down to an issue in sshd (bug #152250 since > woody's times), so I am pursuing this subject further on -devel. > > But why do you want lower ones for ssh X forwarding? I would do

Re: who is responsible to keep the list of used $DISPLAYs at system level

2007-03-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thank you Roberto, The problem seems to boil down to an issue in sshd (bug #152250 since woody's times), so I am pursuing this subject further on -devel. But why do you want lower ones for ssh X forwarding? I would do the opposite probably since lower numbers are easier to remember for VNC connec

Re: Qemu and tun/tab usage - /dev/net/tun permissions

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:53:31AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up bridged networking for a Qemu guest system. The > doc I have says I need to do a 'chmod 666 /dev/net/tun' to be able to do > this. > > And, I see the permissions on it are: > > crw--- 1 root root 1

Re: Microsoft soft *CAN NOT* acquire Linux...

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:40:57PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > In any case, I just thought I'd let you know, that Microsoft itself > teaches its SMB protocol stack using the Samba code... mainly because it > isn't spaghetti code and it is bug-for-bug compatible. If that doesn't > tell you an

Java: Error occurred during initialization of VM

2007-03-01 Thread gustavo halperin
Hello I have a problem with a Java plugin for Mozilla. For example in the link: http://voipreview.org/voipspeedtester.aspx I receive the below error in the terminal VM did not start up properly Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object Could no

Re: Java: Error occurred during initialization of VM

2007-03-01 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:18:25PM +0200, gustavo halperin wrote: > > I have installed the last Jre, version 1.5-0-11. I installed it from the > RPM. I mean I transform the RPM to deb using "allien" and then > installing it with "dpkg -i". > I'm also using the last stable mozilla for debian. >

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > The problem - I tried to upgrade an elderly system from woody to > > sarge. Now it doesn't boot. I suspect the upgrade ate the master boot > > record - but I don't even know the right terminology to figure out > > wh

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > [snip] > I'll make one tonight, and try re-installing LILO. > Then I'll doubtless be on to the next problem, but it's a stage

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Walker
I gave it a try...how's this? On 3/1/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:55:45AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > On 3/1/07, Dave Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't create a > >separate t

Re: Qemu and tun/tab usage - /dev/net/tun permissions

2007-03-01 Thread Bob McGowan
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:53:31AM -0800, Bob McGowan wrote: Hi, I'm trying to set up bridged networking for a Qemu guest system. The doc I have says I need to do a 'chmod 666 /dev/net/tun' to be able to do this. And, I see the permissions on it are: crw--- 1

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 18:08, Dave Walker wrote: > I gave it a try...how's this? Well, you're top-posting, and that's "non-optimum", but it's threading, and you only sent it to d-u. > On 3/1/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 01

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Kent West
Dave Walker wrote: I gave it a try...how's this? Other than the top-posting and lack of snippage, dandy. ;-) On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:55:45AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > On 3/1/07, Dave Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >What I don't know is how to reply to the list so that I don't

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Dave Walker
On 3/1/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 18:08, Dave Walker wrote: > I gave it a try...how's this? Well, you're top-posting, and that's "non-optimum", but it's threading, and you only sent it to d-u. I think I can, I think I

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > By the way, isn't air travel an example of fairly efficient (and > government subsidized) public transportation, at least long distance > flights? More like Amtrak and individual state's rail corporations, unless you're willing to argue for-profit airlines sponging off

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/01/07 08:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 28 Feb, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Now the question is, do you really need three motor vehicles, or are

Re: Newie questions about security

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 01:21:46PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: >> >> Firestarter and other Linux based firewalls are when you want to build a >> firewall for your network. You cannot build a firewall for just the >> computer you want to firewall: Firewalls, by nature,

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 06:22:22PM -0600, Dave Walker wrote: > On 3/1/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On 03/01/07 18:08, Dave Walker wrote: > >> I gave it a try...how's this? > > > >Well, you're top-posting, and that's "non-optim

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 08:30, Mitja Podreka wrote: >> Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Mitja Podreka wrote: >>> > [snip] >>> >>> Speed is not nearly as dangerous as the *difference of speed*. >> What I meant is: "why do you need a car which can go 250km/h if your >> country doesn't allow you

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Arlie Stephens
On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: > > > [snip] > > I'll make one tonight, and try re-installing LILO. > > Then I'll doubtless be on to the next problem, but it's a stag

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Steve Lamb wrote: > For us it's simpler. We drive to the airport, part where we want (of > which there is ample parking) and take the shuttle which drops us off at > the > terminal of our choice. Since the shuttles are designed to carry > passengers and their luggage no problems with the lug

Re: Linux and firewire drives

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Pete Clarke wrote: > Hi there, > > What is the current state of support for firewire attached drives within > Linux .. In konqueror... gg:ieee1394 linux hard drive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to best use the list?

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Dave Walker wrote: > I have done a bit of posting here during my attempt to get sarge > running smoothly, and my experience has shown me that I need to learn > a bit on how best to use this list. > > I use WinXP and Gmail to communictate to the list (still struggling > with debian on another box)

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 15:58, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 03/01/07 08:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On 28 Feb, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 03:58:10PM -0800,

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:37:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/28/07 14:37, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> >> >> > Except that they all come in unskilled. All the commercials for the >> > Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines talk about joining up and they will >> >>

installation problem with initramfs-tools

2007-03-01 Thread Charles Blair
I am trying to install the etch version of Debian on a recently purchased HP Pavillion machine (it has a hard disk that the sarge installer doesn't recognize). I downloaded the first CD image and booted the installer. The partitioning and other steps seemed to be all right. During the base

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/28/07 12:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On 27 Feb, Ron Johnson wrote: >> It's not stupid if you haven't been there. >>> I thought you were smarter than that. >>> >>> Presuming you're not: >>> >>> Mountains and v

Re: sarge/woody upgrade - boot problem

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 19:10, Arlie Stephens wrote: > On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/01/07 18:22, Arlie Stephens wrote: >>> On Mar 01 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: On 03/01/07 09:48, Arlie Stephens wrote: >> [snip] >>> I'll make one tonight, and try

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 10:55 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 06:37:34PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 02/28/07 14:37, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> >> > >> > Except that they all come in unskilled. All the commercials for the > >> > Army, N

Re: Microsoft soft *CAN NOT* acquire Linux...

2007-03-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 18:09 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Feb 28, 2007 at 09:40:57PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > > > > In any case, I just thought I'd let you know, that Microsoft itself > > teaches its SMB protocol stack using the Samba code... mainly because it > > isn't spa

Re: OT: Here we go again.

2007-03-01 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > "A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the > > right, under any circumstances, to initiate force against another > > human being, or to advocate or delegate its initiation. Those who > > act consistently with this principle are lib

Re: making the smartest use of SE Linux

2007-03-01 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 05:50:49PM +, andy wrote: > > Permissive mode means that it logs any action that would not be > permitted under enforcing mode whereas in enforcing mode it would stop > the action. Also, SELinux permissions are

Re: Fonts from GDM?

2007-03-01 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 10:15 +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 22:12:10 -0500 > Matthew K Poer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > An odd situation: When I start Fluxbox (or any other WM) from GDM, I > > get to use the font and cursor set by GDM. > > > > If I start fluxbox with 'star

Re: Java: Error occurred during initialization of VM

2007-03-01 Thread Michael M.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 18:43 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:18:25PM +0200, gustavo halperin wrote: > > > > I have installed the last Jre, version 1.5-0-11. I installed it from the > > RPM. I mean I transform the RPM to deb using "allien" and then > > installing it w

Re: Microsoft soft *CAN NOT* acquire Linux...

2007-03-01 Thread Jim Hyslop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: > I've finally gotten my dander up: > > http://rhetoric.gregfolkert.net/?p=7 > > Its been a while since I started it. Well, it's clear from the original blog that the author has absolutely no clue how open source works. "

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/01/07 12:52, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/28/07 12:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On 27 Feb, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> > It's not stupid if you haven't been there.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: sound in iceweasel

2007-03-01 Thread Mark Grieveson
> Thanks for the help - have fixed it. It was a combo of not having the > latest flash plugin (now fixed with flashplugin-nonfree) and adjusting > the /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc file as was suggested with reference to > Mozilla. > Now fixed, except for when the site requires something proprieta

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > > > > Are you anywhere near St. Louis, MO, USA? Wanna help me with my '48 > > International pickup? Know anywhere to get parts? > > Oooh, is that one of the pickups that has the airliner style > seatbelts? > Seat belts? It i

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-01 Thread David E. Fox
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:23:10 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're thinking of the Roman Church's stricture against Onanism, > well, Augustine had more than one weird idea. Big misconception (pardon the pun) about that... Onanism isn't masturbation, it's coitus interruptus.

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-01 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 04:11:27PM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: > > > > "A libertarian is a person who believes that no one has the right, > > under any circumstances, to initiate force against another human > > being, or to advocate or delegate it

Re: usb audio device & sound card

2007-03-01 Thread Mark Grieveson
Mark Grieveson wrote: > > Hi. I have a cheap usb audio device for Skype, and a regular sound > > card for the rest of the computer. I'm using Etch. I would like to > > be able to get sound when browsing the internet, or listening to > > music, or watching movies, from the soundcard, while simult

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