Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread Debian User Leonard Chatagnier
Kent West wrote: Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote: Sorry again. After I emailed my response, I realized I for got to run lilo. So ran it and got this error: ChatagnierL-Home:/home/lchata# lilo Fatal: Image name, label, or alias is too long: 'Linux-2.4.27-2-386' ChatagnierL-Home:/home/

Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread Debian User Leonard Chatagnier
Marty wrote: Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote: See below for links. Not sure what you mean by what happens when you boot using LinuxOLD. It boots normally as it did since first installed. I do see that Output module failed to load as was the case on my old sarge. If your refering to

Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread Marty
Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote: You can, if you will, tell me just how you remove a kernel(outline the process). Like any other package: "apt-get remove " or use aptitude, dselect, etc. I don't use the packaged kernels so I don't know but if it tries to re-install LILO, I would postpone

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working

2005-06-25 Thread Mark Fletcher
--- Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > >Got a problem with KDE after upgrading woody to > sarge. > > > > > > > >However on login, the X server appears to shut down > >(and gdm promptly re-starts it) -- so I log in and > >after some flashing of screens for a seco

Re: Etch Version #

2005-06-25 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Saturday June 25 2005 02:33, Robert Wolfe wrote: > Anyone know what the next version number of Debian will be once etch comes > to fruition?? That'd be "Debian GNU/Linux 2010". SCNR. -- Got Backup? Jabber: Shadowdancer at jabber.fsinf.de pgpltpwbYgVHC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: cannot burn 612MB iso

2005-06-25 Thread peter colton
On Saturday 25 June 2005 04:27, Kudret Güler wrote: hello Kudret Here is how I take a md5sum off a cd rom. md5sum /dev/hdc > path-to-md5sum-output my cd drive is on /dev/hdc so change to suit. all the best peter colton > Hi, > > Trying to write 6

Re: How to make a driver floppy?

2005-06-25 Thread Tom Allison
Nelson Leung wrote: > Hi all~ > I'm tring to install debian on my new computer. I > downloaded the net-install version and install. But it > cannot detect my LAN card and ask for the driver. I've > tried to download the driver form the officical site > into a floppy but it said it is not a valid dr

Re: cannot burn 612MB iso

2005-06-25 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:27:06PM -0400, Kudret G?ler wrote: > However, when I try to check md5sums of all files on the new cd-rom, > some of the files fail. also /var/log/messages collects some errors ... What happens when you try to mount the CD? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel

2005-06-25 Thread Branden Faulls
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:25:54PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not sure how to disable ide-scsi using udev, but you can do a > modprobe ide-cd > and/or add it to /etc/modules, removing ide-scsi, then update > /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst as necessary. > > John > > > Branden Faulls

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working

2005-06-25 Thread Petri Varsa
I had the exact same problem ... except I use kdm.  You must have a lot more patience than myself.  It only took me a few hours before I decided to just back up all of my data and re-install everything.  :-) With a fresh install, KDE works just fine. -petri On 6/25/05, Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working

2005-06-25 Thread Petri Varsa
> > Is it just KDE? Try a different wm/environment. for me, the problem existed with xdm, and kdm. I didn't try gdm. All other window managers worked fine. Just the kde enviroment would fail on startup. > > Is it just from gdm? What happens if you kill gdm > > and try "startx"? With startx, ot

Re: How to make a driver floppy?

2005-06-25 Thread kalasala
On 6/25/05, Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nelson Leung wrote:> Hi all~> I'm tring to install debian on my new computer. I> downloaded the net-install version and install. But it> cannot detect my LAN card and ask for the driver. I've > tried to download the driver form the officical site>

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working -- SOLVED

2005-06-25 Thread mark27q1
On Saturday 25 June 2005 17:58, Mark Fletcher wrote: > --- Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > >Got a problem with KDE after upgrading woody to > > > > sarge. > > > > > > > > > > >However on login, the X server appears to shut > > > down (and gdm promptly re-starts it

Re: cdda2wav giving more than 700 MB of wav files

2005-06-25 Thread H. S.
Apparently, _Brendon Lloyd Higgins_, on 24/06/05 00:56,typed: > H. S. wrote (Friday 24 June 2005 8:23 am): > >>While making a backup a music CD, I noticed that I am getting around >>728MB of wav files from the original. > > > If I understand the process correctly, this is entirely normal. You se

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working

2005-06-25 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Saturday 25 June 2005 12:58, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:21:01PM -0700, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Hi > > > > Got a problem with KDE after upgrading woody to > > sarge. I am running the i386 distribution. For > > historical reasons I will get around to sorting out > > one of

realplayer10 and sound quality

2005-06-25 Thread Joe Mc Cool
Sarge, kernel 2.2.20, small home network. Server: PII 333MHz. Thanks a lot for Debian. I have just installed RealPlayer10 and it works fine, listening on line to BBC Radio 3. Wonderful, thanks again everybody. But this is when only one person is logged on. If, say, another user is moving his mou

Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 01:35:23PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (24/06/05 23:29), Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:05:34AM -0500, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > > > > >Now I'm worried. Note: I don't have a reiserfs file system, only an > > >ext3 fs since day one on

Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread Debian User Leonard Chatagnier
Marty wrote: Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote: You can, if you will, tell me just how you remove a kernel(outline the process). Like any other package: "apt-get remove " or use aptitude, dselect, etc. I don't use the packaged kernels so I don't know but if it tries to re-install LILO

Re: realplayer10 and sound quality

2005-06-25 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Saturday 25 June 2005 21:52, Joe Mc Cool wrote: > Sarge, kernel 2.2.20, small home network. Server: PII > 333MHz. > > Thanks a lot for Debian. > > I have just installed RealPlayer10 and it works fine, > listening on line to BBC Radio 3. Wonderful, thanks > again everybody. > > But this is when o

Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread Kent West
Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > The 2.4.27-2-386 kernel was forced on me by the dist-upgrade. I planned > on going to the 2.6.6-2-686 kernel and will eventually, probably > soon. Kent > finally fixed lilo for me so that sarge boots now if you haven't > already read it. > You can, if you

Re: XP-Debian dual boot with grub

2005-06-25 Thread Alan Ianson
> Does exist any problem installing Grub in the MBR of the disk? or Win > XP boot loader must be there in order to antivirus programs work fine? > Thanks in advance for any help It should work fine, it does here at least. I installed sarge here an a michine with Win/XP and grub was installed by d

screen scrolling

2005-06-25 Thread Micha Feigin
Is it possible to attach a key to scroll screen without going into copy mode (C-a Esc) as I scroll a lot and its very annoying. Preferably if there is a way to attach it to the mouse wheel is even better. +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System a

Re: screen scrolling

2005-06-25 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to attach a key to scroll screen without going into > copy mode > (C-a Esc) as I scroll a lot and its very annoying. Preferably if > there is a way > to attach it to the mouse wheel is even better. Can you provide some context with thi

[SOLVED] Re: dvd playback problems - dma, udev, 2.6 kernel

2005-06-25 Thread Branden Faulls
Finally got this worked out. First I set the DVD region on my drive with regionset, which got rid of the seek errors that hdc was complaining of. At this point I could get the DVDs to actually start playing, but then xine or mplayer would quit, complaining of css issues. This seemed odd, since

Re: cannot burn 612MB iso

2005-06-25 Thread Kudret Güler
On 6/25/05, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:27:06PM -0400, Kudret G?ler wrote: > > > However, when I try to check md5sums of all files on the new cd-rom, > > some of the files fail. also /var/log/messages collects some errors > ... > > What happens when you try t

Re: screen scrolling

2005-06-25 Thread Angelina Carlton
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 03:14:05PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > Can you provide some context with this? I assume based soley on the > way the key-binding is written, that you're referring to some aspect of > Emacs? > I think the OP means Gnu Screen > > --- Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working

2005-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:58:15PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:21:01PM -0700, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > Hi > > > > Got a problem with KDE after upgrading woody to sarge. > > I am running the i386 distribution. For historical > > reasons I will get around to sorting out o

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working

2005-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 12:41:12PM +, Petri Varsa wrote: > I had the exact same problem ... except I use kdm. You must have a lot more > patience than myself. It only took me a few hours before I decided to just > back up all of my data and re-install everything. :-) This is actually the sec

usb card reader and kernel 2.6.8 -> crash

2005-06-25 Thread Andreas Goesele
Hi! I'm using debian sarge and wanted to change from the 2.4.27 kernel to the 2.6.8 kernel. But under the 2.6.8 kernel my usb memory stick is not working. Not only this - if I plug it out the whole system crashes! Under 2.4.27 when I plug in the memory stick dmesg shows: hub.c: new USB device 0

Re: Upgrade woody-->sarge, KDE stops working

2005-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 12:11:23PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 11:58:15PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:21:01PM -0700, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Got a problem with KDE after upgrading woody to sarge. > > > I am running the i386 d

Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread John Kelly
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:15:31 -0500, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm still trying to get a stable system for the last six months that >I've been using Debian ... Out of 3 or 4 sarge installs, only the last >one via testing worked out of the box and booted normally. T

Re: Kernel Panic After Sarge Dist-upgrade To Kernel Image 2.4.27-2-386

2005-06-25 Thread Debian User Leonard Chatagnier
Kent West wrote: Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote: The 2.4.27-2-386 kernel was forced on me by the dist-upgrade. I planned on going to the 2.6.6-2-686 kernel and will eventually, probably soon. Kent finally fixed lilo for me so that sarge boots now if you haven't already read it. You

Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote: > Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: > > > > > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: > > VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65) > > Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:26:

Re: screen scrolling

2005-06-25 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:34:36 -0400 Angelina Carlton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 03:14:05PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > > > > Can you provide some context with this? I assume based soley on the > > way the key-binding is written, that you're referring to some aspect of

Can't upgrade dpkg (1.9.21 > 1.13.9)

2005-06-25 Thread Jonathan Beeston
Hi, My upgrade to Sarge has gone awry. When I run aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade, it falls over when it tries to upgrade dpkg. I can't work out what the problem is, and I'd appreciate any help. I've pasted the output of aptitude below. Any suggestions? Thanks in anticipation,

procmail and samba

2005-06-25 Thread axolx
I'm setting up a debian mail server with mailboxes in another machine exported to the mail server as a samba share (all the mailboxes are under one folder which I export). The mail server has exim setup up, and all incoming mail is piped to procmail. Each user has a procmailrc file. The problem I

USB card reader prevents Sid from booting

2005-06-25 Thread H. S.
Hi, If I boot a Sid system running 2.6.11-1-686 while a USB multi-card reader is plugged into a USB port, the boot process hangs. I get the grub menu and when I select the kernel to boot from, the screen goes blank and nothing happens at all. If I boot by disconnecting the card reader, all is norm

Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Marty
Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: line 'initrd=/initrd.img' after the read-only line in the Linux label stanza. Now the 2.6 kernel (you guessed or read correctly) boots. It appears to be a little fussier than the bf2.4 kernel which still works fine. I kept it under the LinuxOld label where the pack

Re: About blackdown

2005-06-25 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hal Vaughan thresholddigital.com> writes: > Blackdown, and all the other FOSS implementations of Java are noble > undertakings and I look forward to the day I can use a completely FOSS > version of Java on Linux, OSX, and the Redmond OS. Unfortunately, Blackdown is neither Free Software nor Op

Re: procmail and samba

2005-06-25 Thread Jochen Schulz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > 1) Should procmail be trying to lock files when all my mailboxes are > in Maildir format? If not, what can I do to stop that? Remove the colon from the beginning of your recipes. Instead of :0: * ^To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null write :0 * ^To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/nul

2.6.12.1 kernel won't compile in fresh sarge install

2005-06-25 Thread Daniel Johnson
I've been trying to compile a vanilla 2.6.12.1 kernel because it has native drivers for my pchdtv [1] card that are not in 2.6.11.  When running make it gets pages of errors under drivers/char/drm/ eventually giving me a failure message.  I've tried both with using one of the debian configure files

Question can I use Mac OSX drivers with Debian GNU/Linux's version of Cups

2005-06-25 Thread Brad Sims
If so how, and how well does it work? I am looking at a Canon photoprinter that isn't even mentioned on linux-printing.org :/ -- Spring sucks. Allergies clog sinuses like wet rags. Why can't I go home? -- Eric in ASR -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Good backup software for Linux

2005-06-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:22:27AM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote:> Alvin Oga wrote: > > Using an extra 300GB disk is out of the question and that's precisely > why I was asking about other's experiences regarding removeable media. And later, Alvin Oga wrote: > > I'm still open to suggestions re

Re: usb card reader and kernel 2.6.8 -> crash

2005-06-25 Thread Carl Fink
What USB chipset do you have? Certain types of USB access can lock my box It's more often syncing my Palm Tungsten T3 than memory (SD) card access, but I've had a lockup if I task-switch while writing to the card. I have the VIA VT82x (UHC) chipset, FWIW. USB 1.1. -- Carl Fink

Intel Extreme Graphics

2005-06-25 Thread Max Kaznadiy
Hello, I have a problem setting gamma for my monitor on a mobile Intel 852GM chipset using Intel Extreme Graphics on Toshiba Satellite A40 notebook.glxgears works and I even have a framebuffer when booting on my debian-source self-compiled kernel 2.6.10-6. I tried using xgamma, kgamma and editing

Manual Instalação Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 Woody

2005-06-25 Thread Rogerio Souza
Preciso do manual de instalação do Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2 Woody, se alguém tiver um link onde tenha o manual ou o próprio manual e quizer me enviar, fico agradecido... Obrigado...  

Re: About blackdown

2005-06-25 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 24 June 2005 07:13 pm, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Hal Vaughan thresholddigital.com> writes: > > Blackdown, and all the other FOSS implementations of Java are noble > > undertakings and I look forward to the day I can use a completely FOSS > > version of Java on Linux, OSX, and the Redmond OS

Re: usb card reader and kernel 2.6.8 -> crash

2005-06-25 Thread Andreas Goesele
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What USB chipset do you have? Sorry, but how would I find out? > Certain types of USB access can lock my box It's more often syncing > my Palm Tungsten T3 than memory (SD) card access, but I've had a > lockup if I task-switch while writing to the card. > >

A little debian-user ml help..

2005-06-25 Thread Mr Mike
My isp doesn't provide news server and reading/managing debian-* lists in evolution is killing me... I really need to switch to a news reader so I can ignore/follow threads and all that good stuff... In order to do this I need a server (free) that has the debian-* lists. I'll install a news serv

2.6.12.1 kernel won't compile in fresh sarge install

2005-06-25 Thread Daniel Johnson
I apologise if this ends up on the list twice, but I posted it over an hour ago, and it is on the website, but not in my inbox which seems to indicate that it never really made it to the list.  I've been trying to compile a vanilla 2.6.12.1 kernel because it has native drivers for my pchdtv [1]

Crypto File System: Necessary patches

2005-06-25 Thread nuno romano
I got the following warning trying to create a crypto file system in hda10 partition of my hard disk: I did -> modprobe cryptoloop modprobe aes losetup -e aes-256 /dev/loop0 /dev/hda10 Password: ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument I have a PowerPC kernel 2.6.8,util-linux 2.12,and

PCMCIA network card

2005-06-25 Thread Tom Allison
I finally dusted off my PCMCIA wireless card after a prolonged time in storage. I have some notes on how to set this up from some years back (2001 or earlier) and I suspect that the configurations for wireless cards might have changed a bit. I also know that I had a somewhat kludged install

Re: A little debian-user ml help..

2005-06-25 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005, Mr Mike wrote: > note: I asked in chat and all I got was BS about using mail and > filtering msgs on X headers (which I'm already doing) and it's not > working out for me ... so please, lets not go there. All I need is a > free nntp server with the debian-* lists. partia

PPP1

2005-06-25 Thread David R. Litwin
Though I brought this problem up once before, it wasn't solved. So, I thought I'd try afresh.My problem is this. I have used pppoeconf to set up my internet connection. How? you may ask. Like this. I shall go through the steps it says: It finds 1 eth0. It looks for access concentrator on PPPoE. It

Re: usb card reader and kernel 2.6.8 -> crash

2005-06-25 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 01:29:59AM +0200, Andreas Goesele wrote: > Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What USB chipset do you have? > > Sorry, but how would I find out? Search the output of dmesg for the string "usb". (That's what I did.) -- Carl Fink

Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)] From: Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 16:06:29 -0400 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: line 'initrd=/initrd.img' after the read

Re: PCMCIA network card

2005-06-25 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:11:03 -0400 Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I finally dusted off my PCMCIA wireless card after a prolonged time > in storage. > > I have some notes on how to set this up from some years back (2001 or > earlier) and I suspect that the configurations for wireless ca

Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Gayle's current wvdial problem: After I fixed the lilo.conf with the initrd=/initrd.img, I got the 2.6.8 kernel to run but ran into what appeared to be Bug #276020 filed against that kernel so I went to unstable and got the 2.6.11 kernel. It seems to manifest the same bug with wvdial.

Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Marty
Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: Although the Gateway 500 does have an internal modem that Windows 98SE can use, Linux appears to be able to use only the Hayes external modem. Then can you try a PCI modem instead? This is a critical troubleshooting step. Possibly off-topic, but does a custom kern

Re: [Fwd: Re: VFS: Cannot open root device 2141 ... Kernelpanic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unk-blk(33,65)]

2005-06-25 Thread Marty
Marty wrote: Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: Although the Gateway 500 does have an internal modem that Windows 98SE can use, Linux appears to be able to use only the Hayes external modem. Then can you try a PCI modem instead? This is a critical troubleshooting step. Possibly off-topic, but doe

Re: Good backup software for Linux

2005-06-25 Thread Rogério Brito
On Jun 25 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Except, of course for the CD-RWs, which I found a nuisance to erase. > I'vr gone the dismountable hard disk route, and haven't regretted it. Have you ever used a DVD+RW? You need no stinking erase phase. Just record over it and you're done. Using DVD-RWs is si

Re: A little debian-user ml help..

2005-06-25 Thread Jules Dubois
On Saturday 25 June 2005 18:13, Mr Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > My isp doesn't provide news server and reading/managing debian-* lists > in evolution is killing me... I really need to switch to a news reader > so I can ignore/follow threads and all that good stuff... S

Wvdial, Pon Broke On Sarge-Stable, Only Pon works On Woody-Done Everthing I Know-Need Help

2005-06-25 Thread Debian User Leonard Chatagnier
Discovered wvdial and pon not working after finally getting the 2.4.27-2-386 KI to boot. Ran wvdialconf and pppconfig which didn't change anything. Chmod a+rwx on all wvdial and wvdial.conf files. Some Debians may say that's not the way, but I don't want to use su and don't have to on pon, so

possibility of debian "cannabilizing" other Linux distributions in 5-10 years time

2005-06-25 Thread Dominik Margraf
Hi! Now Linux is effectively "cannabilizing" the Unix market due to its lower cost of acquision and open source status which offers transparency and security. However will the ease of upgrade, versatility, security, free and non-commercial nature of Debian together with its dramatic improvements