Re: Make Menuconfig Problem

2001-05-18 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 04:46:49PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: >In file included from lxdialog.c:22: >dialog.h:29 curses.h No such file or directory apt-get install libncurses5-dev. This is not an essential package, which is why your fix-broken-upgrade and friends had n

Re: [users] packaging hell

2001-05-18 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Michael Soulier (on Fri, 18 May 2001 04:18:32PM -0400): > And there they are. run 'apt-get -f install' then try again. if that doesn't work, repeat, but don't retry. anything related to libc etc al. is sketchy to update. if libstdc++ won't install, you can always force it to...

Re: [users] [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Noah L. Meyerhans (on Fri, 18 May 2001 04:01:36PM -0400): > Now, I know Redhat's Linux distribution sucks, but is it bad enough that > it should be considered "ideal for the ex"??? read the page the link points to... it's ideal for the "experience user", not your ex... :-> but hey, i

Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-18 Thread Hall Stevenson
* Jonathan Daugherty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010518 17:44]: > Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on > a linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a > windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks? I don't know if this is what you

Re: [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread Alan Shutko
MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ever used it? it hurts! Most distributions hurt if you don't know how to use them. -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors! Only through hard work and perseverance can one truly suffer.

Re: [users] [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:36:41PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > also sprach Noah L. Meyerhans (on Fri, 18 May 2001 04:01:36PM -0400): > > Now, I know Redhat's Linux distribution sucks, but is it bad enough that > > it should be considered "ideal for the ex"??? > > read the page the link points to... i

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Alan Shutko (on Fri, 18 May 2001 05:44:31PM -0400): > > ever used it? it hurts! > Most distributions hurt if you don't know how to use them. alright then, i'll expand: redhat hurts especially if you know linux very well. or can you find convincing arguments for linuxconf??? or rpm???

Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-18 Thread D-Man
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote: | Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a | linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a | windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks? Cygwin has XFree86 wit

Re: [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 04:01:36PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > From the front page at http://www.linuxcentral.com : > "Red Hat Linux 7.1 contains the basics for setting up a Linux > workstation or server. Ideal for the ex..." > > Now, I know Redhat's Linux distribution s

Re: [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread Alan Shutko
MaD dUCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > alright then, i'll expand: redhat hurts especially if you know linux > very well. or can you find convincing arguments for linuxconf??? or > rpm??? Nobody can find convincing arguments for linuxconf... but nobody forces you to use it. Many RHL users remove

Re: Running X apps in Windows

2001-05-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a > linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a > windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks?

Re: Module agpgart not loading

2001-05-18 Thread mikepolniak
Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a Matrox G400 video card and have configured X (4.0.3) with the > mga driver and DRI. Upon boot I get an error message, that the drm > module (part of DRI, as I understand) failed to load because of the > agpgart module wasn't loaded before (well, it

Re: lm-sensors problems

2001-05-18 Thread David Z Maze
Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: PL> In order to access the hardware sensors on my motherboard, I PL> installed the lm-sensors-source package and the corresponding PL> userland utilities. I need the i2c-viapro kernel module for my MB PL> (VIA KT133A/82c686b chipset). PL> PL> Now, when I

Re: 12 box network in small school

2001-05-18 Thread Forrest English
definitly. at freegeek.org we run 10+ machines sans disks by using a diskless setup, and getting their x sessions from another box completely. the server i belive is a dual ppro 180.and we've been using client machines of 486 and pentiums on a 10Mb network. so, i think you'll be fine with th

opera

2001-05-18 Thread MaD dUCK
trying to install opera, i got dependency errors, which even apt-get -f install couldn't fix. subsequently i isolated the dependency, and one of those were liblcms. but an apt-get install liblcms yielded: Package liblcms has no available version, but exists in the database. This typically means th

Small LAN problem

2001-05-18 Thread Alexander Poquet
Hi there, I have a newbie networking problem. I've never really done any networking before. I recently got an UltraSPARC 10 running Solaris 8, and decided it would be fun, useful, and educational to network it to my debian box. My debian box connects to the internet sometimes via ppp, but is ge

Re: [users] packaging hell

2001-05-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:34:11PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > > run 'apt-get -f install' > > then try again. if that doesn't work, repeat, but don't retry. > anything related to libc etc al. is sketchy to update. if libstdc++ > won't install, you can always force it to... Yeah, I tried that al

Using old libc for some programs?

2001-05-18 Thread Paul D. Smith
I've just upgraded my testing distribution which installed libc6-2.3.1. Now, one of my apps (a daemon that uses sockets (I guess)) isn't working anymore. That is, the daemon starts and appears to be running normally with no errors in the log, but none of the clients can attach to it: they all giv

ATI Rage 128 virtual screen

2001-05-18 Thread Martin WHEELER
[Please cc responses direct, as not subscribed to list] Can any of you good folks help me out with a correctly configured XF86Config-4 file, set up for an ATI Rage 128 with 16M of memory, to give an actual window of 1024x768 on a virtual screen area of 1600x1280? One that works? I can't seem

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach Alan Shutko (on Fri, 18 May 2001 05:58:29PM -0400): > Nobody can find convincing arguments for linuxconf... but nobody > forces you to use it. Many RHL users remove it on sight... I did, > when I was using it. so did i. nevertheless, i don't know about redhat 7.x anymore, but redhat 6

Re: /tmp trouble

2001-05-18 Thread Carel Fellinger
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 10:34:51PM +0600, V.Suresh wrote: > I just wanted to experiment with partitions. So, created a 30 MB > partition, and modified /etc/fstab as >/dev/hda7 /tmp ext2defaults 0 0 > >And rebooted. Now, mutt, lynx et al couldn't create tmp files, and won't >b

Re: lm-sensors problems

2001-05-18 Thread Philipp Lehman
On 18 May 2001, David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Philipp Lehman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >PL> In order to access the hardware sensors on my motherboard, I >PL> installed the lm-sensors-source package and the corresponding >PL> userland utilities. I need the i2c-viapro kernel module for

Re: Problem with netgear card

2001-05-18 Thread Brian Schramm
Ok I am lost. I installed this system that I am running with potato and 2.2.17. I then downloaded the kernel source for 2.2.19 and compiled it the way I need it for my current system. So, what is this about keeping the .config file and configuring it the same way that the kernel was configured?

Re: [users] Re: [OT] Is Redhat *that* bad?

2001-05-18 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:23:03PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > also sprach Alan Shutko (on Fri, 18 May 2001 05:58:29PM -0400): > > Nobody can find convincing arguments for linuxconf... but nobody > > forces you to use it. Many RHL users remove it on sight... I did, > > when I was using it. > > so di

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Jimmy Richards
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:14:44PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > trying to install opera, i got dependency errors, which even apt-get > -f install couldn't fix. subsequently i isolated the dependency, and > one of those were liblcms. but an apt-get install liblcms yielded: > > Package liblcms has no av

/etc/conf.modules is more recent ? !!

2001-05-18 Thread Balbir Thomas
Hi, I am using kernel 2.2.19 and with debian 2.2r2 and keep getting the following message at boot up : Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.2.19/modules.dep I read the earlier post in this mailing list saying it was a bug in 2.2.17 . So I upgraded to 2.2.19 and it still hap

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:14:44PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > trying to install opera, i got dependency errors, which even apt-get > -f install couldn't fix. subsequently i isolated the dependency, and > one of those were liblcms. but an apt-get install

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread mark
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:14:44PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > trying to install opera, i got dependency errors, which even apt-get > -f install couldn't fix. subsequently i isolated the dependency, and > one of those were liblcms. but an apt-get install liblcms yielded: > > Package liblcms has no av

Re: Linux compatible IDE CDRW

2001-05-18 Thread Gordon Hart
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 01:43:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Plextor's 2mb. I assume, all things being equal, this would be an > >advantage. Is this a valid assumption? > > My understanding after reading about Burn-Proof on the Plextor web page is > that > this technology pretty much p

Re: /etc/conf.modules is more recent ? !!

2001-05-18 Thread Gordon Hart
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:49:48PM -0500, Balbir Thomas wrote: > Hi, > I am using kernel 2.2.19 and with debian 2.2r2 and keep getting the following > message at boot up : > > Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.2.19/modules.dep > > I read the earlier post in this mailing

Re: Snort config

2001-05-18 Thread Francois Gouget
On Fri, 18 May 2001, Iwan Mouwen wrote: > * John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010516 15:24]: > > >DEBIAN_SNORT_STATS_RCPT="root" > > ^ > > Change this just on principle: using root to check system email is just > > another thing you can do as a user and not have to be lo

Re: Problem with netgear card

2001-05-18 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 11:40:39PM -, Brian Schramm wrote: > Ok I am lost. I installed this system that I am running with potato and > 2.2.17. I then downloaded the kernel source for 2.2.19 and compiled it the > way I need it for my current system. So, what is this about keeping the > .confi

Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Krisno Pryosusilo
Hi, I'm a relatively new user of Linux and have since yesterday, migrated from SuSE 7.1 to a boxed version 1.0 of Progeny Debian. I chose Progeny because of my perception that Progeny would be easier to install and get running than the non-commercial Debian. However, the progeny users site is extr

Re: /tmp trouble

2001-05-18 Thread Michael B. Taylor
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 01:33:56AM +0200, Carel Fellinger wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 10:34:51PM +0600, V.Suresh wrote: > > I just wanted to experiment with partitions. So, created a 30 MB > > partition, and modified /etc/fstab as > >/dev/hda7 /tmp ext2defaults 0 0 > > > >An

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Colin Watson
"debian-user@lists.debian.org" wrote: >Question 1 : -> Is there a simple blow by blow description on how to >install a deb package which is currently in a directory on my >hard-drive? .. or is anyone able to help me as I appear to be lacking a >basic understanding here. Don't use apt here, use th

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Ian Lee
- Original Message - From: "Krisno Pryosusilo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user. > Hi, > I'm a relatively new user of Linux and have since yesterday, migrated > from SuSE 7.1 to a boxed version 1

Re: [users] packaging hell

2001-05-18 Thread Colin Watson
"Michael P. Soulier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:34:11PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: >> run 'apt-get -f install' >> >> then try again. if that doesn't work, repeat, but don't retry. >> anything related to libc etc al. is sketchy to update. if libstdc++ >> won't install, you c

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Brian Nelson
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 07:03:42PM -0500, Stephen E. Hargrove wrote: > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:14:44PM -0400, MaD dUCK wrote: > > trying to install opera, i got dependency errors, which even apt-get > > -f install couldn't fix. subsequently i isolated the dependency, and > > one

Re: More Dpkg Broken errors

2001-05-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 10:49:48AM +1000, Kieren Diment ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I tried Andreas' suggestion, and this is what happens: > > # apt-get --fix-broken remove procmail > > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED:

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Fri, 18 May 2001 17:14:44 MaD dUCK wrote: > trying to install opera, i got dependency errors, which even apt-get > -f install couldn't fix. subsequently i isolated the dependency, and > one of those were liblcms. but an apt-get install liblcms yielded: > > Package liblcms has no available ver

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Gordon Hart
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:03:59AM +1000, Krisno Pryosusilo wrote: > Hi, > Question 1 : -> Is there a simple blow by blow description on how to > install a deb package which is currently in a directory on my > hard-drive? dpkg -i filename > The reason : -> > I'm trying to install Opera and under

Re: ATI Rage 128 virtual screen

2001-05-18 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Fri, 18 May 2001 18:07:24 Martin WHEELER wrote: > [Please cc responses direct, as not subscribed to list] > > Can any of you good folks help me out with a correctly configured > XF86Config-4 file, set up for an ATI Rage 128 with 16M of memory, to > give an actual window of 1024x768 on a v

Re: Problem with netgear card

2001-05-18 Thread Brian Schramm
I never ran mrproper. The last time I did that I had trouble bringing everything back to a good compile so I don't do that any more. Admittedly, that was a long time ago and many kernels back. I have looked in the directory that you said and I have a modversions.h file. So, I do not know what I

Re: /etc/conf.modules is more recent ? !!

2001-05-18 Thread Balbir Thomas
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 01:14:14AM +0100, Gordon Hart wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 06:49:48PM -0500, Balbir Thomas wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using kernel 2.2.19 and with debian 2.2r2 and keep getting the > > following > > message at boot up : > > > > Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than

Re: Problem with netgear card

2001-05-18 Thread Brian Schramm
Kernel source is not part of the defalt load for Debian. You have to choose that package after you have the system installed. Brian Michael Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Here's a newbie question about the instructions below: > > If I load Potato from scratch, will there be a kernel > sou

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread Krisno Pryosusilo
Thanks Colin and Lee for your very helpfull answers! I stumbled upon dpkg in an article on Debian Planet, and it was nice to get verification from you both. Cheers Krisno

Re: ntpdate woes - no suitable server

2001-05-18 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya hahaski add ntpdate ntp.your_isp.com into your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file or rdate instead of ntpdate in your /etc/ntp.conf - find and add the nearest public ntp server http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm c ya alvin On Fri, 18 May 2001, Hanasaki JiJi wrote

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Fri, 18 May 2001 20:12:57 Brian Nelson wrote: > Can't say I'm all that impressed with it though. The damn toolbar/ad > crap takes up half the damn screen. Maybe you're not missing out on > much... Actually, it's all configurable. Ya just got to play with the settings. Personally after yo

Re: [users] packaging hell

2001-05-18 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 02:09:59AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Stable? You seem to have your system somewhere between stable and > unstable at the moment ... > > libc6 | 2.1.3-18 |stable | i386 > libc6 |2.2.3-1 | testing | i386 > libc6 |2.2.3-1 | uns

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Brian Nelson
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 08:42:15PM -0500, Dana J . Laude wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2001 20:12:57 Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Can't say I'm all that impressed with it though. The damn > toolbar/ad > > crap takes up half the damn screen. Maybe you're not missing out > on > > much... > > Actually, i

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 18 May 2001, Brian Nelson wrote: > > Can't say I'm all that impressed with it though. The damn toolbar/ad > crap takes up half the damn screen. Maybe you're not missing out on > much... i guess i've been using it so long that i don't really

Re: cp binary cd to hd

2001-05-18 Thread Andreas Hatz
cp -d will work, but I reckon cp --archive (same as cp -dpR) is better for these purposes. (as always, a look at the man page is informative :) I did this exact same thing to install onto an old laptop without a cdrom drive. Only I created some virtual hosts in my apache conf file and just added t

Mozilla M18-3 SSL support? (was Re: Unable to gain access to secure sites)

2001-05-18 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 10:00:07AM +0800, Tham Kine Seng ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi to all, > I'm a newbie to Linux sys and I need some help here. I am unable to > access secure sites using mozilla and netscape For Netscape, there are packages available, responded to elsewhere. For Mo

Using /dev/dsp?

2001-05-18 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey, I have a bunch /dev/dsp's (/dev/dsp is a symlink to /dev/dsp0, but I also have /dev/dsp[123],etc). I can't use them though... Are they only available if you have multiple sound cards, or how can i access them (i want to be able to play mp3s and have sound in gaim, etc) Thanks, Cameron Math

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Fri, 18 May 2001 21:06:15 Brian Nelson wrote: > It's all configurable... except for the toolbar with the ads which is > the biggest and most annoying one. I played with it for a while but > couldn't come up with a configuration I liked. > > Besides, it's not free in any sense of the word, un

galeon compile

2001-05-18 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i'm trying to compile the latest version of galeon. make craps out with: In file included from autobookmarks.c:19: galeon.h:42: gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.h: No such file or directory In file included from autobookmarks.c:19: galeon.h:45: gnome-xml/xmlmem

Re: Questions (and hello) from a new (Progeny) Debian user.

2001-05-18 Thread DvB
Krisno Pryosusilo wrote: Thanks Colin and Lee for your very helpfull answers! I stumbled upon dpkg in an article on Debian Planet, and it was nice to get verification from you both. Cheers Krisno You might also want to check out the debian FAQ at http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ Especially

Is Redhat that bad - a question.

2001-05-18 Thread David Underwood
I really don't know enough to comment on anything posted in that thread, my Linux knolwedge experiance / knoledge is'nt that extensive. I am aware though that the Debian policy is much stronger in relation to the 'packaging issue'. Presumably this is one of the contibuting factors to it's 'legenda

Re: Is Redhat that bad - a question.

2001-05-18 Thread freedman
On Sat, May 19, 2001, David Underwood wrote: > I really don't know enough to comment on anything posted in that thread, > my Linux knolwedge experiance / knoledge is'nt that extensive. > > I am aware though that the Debian policy is much stronger in relation to > the 'packaging issue'. Presumably

Re: opera

2001-05-18 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls
Hey, Reset your ur screen res. Is good beyond 800x... I know what you mean, I had it running on a laptop at 640, not much room left for rendering eh! imnsho, opera dusts nutscrape, slowzilla and konq on most sites. Konq is gonna rock shortly, the coders seem to be hell bent for the gold on it.

Re: Is Redhat that bad - a question.

2001-05-18 Thread Dana J . Laude
On Fri, 18 May 2001 23:00:40 you wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2001, David Underwood wrote: > > I really don't know enough to comment on anything posted in that thread, > > my Linux knolwedge experiance / knoledge is'nt that extensive. > > > > I am aware though that the Debian policy is much stronger

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