On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 01:59:50PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am having trouble connecting to my provider. I have configured the
> chatscript and the /etc/ppp/peers/provider files correctly, and if I run plog
> I see communication. the "gist" of the communication is:
>
> sent [LCPConf
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 05:43:18PM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote:
> The release of 2.1 "Slink" will happen:
> in Australia: at 11:00 AM ACT on Tuesday Mar 2
What's ACT exactly? :-)
(If you mean Australian Central Time, that would be GMT+0930,
or GMT+1030 in summer (now). The eastern state
"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The release of 2.1 "Slink" will happen: in Australia: at 11:00 AM
>> ACT on Tuesday Mar 2
Hamish> (If you mean Australian Central Time, that would be GMT+0930,
Hamish> or GMT+1030 in summer (now). The eastern states are
Hamish> GMT+1000/1
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 05:07:13PM -0800, Darren Benham wrote:
> > Anyway, 4 PM is a bit early for me on Monday (have to work), but if
> > people would like to meet somewhere that evening, it could be fun.
> >
> > How about it?
>
> I'd recommend getting together with Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
Hi,
For some strange reason Communicator 4.5 crashes (bus error) whenever
encountering ANY applet. I have tried a million things - reinstalled
all libraries that communicator depends on, reinstall communicator,
tried with no config files, tried tweaking the wrapper script.
An email to
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 08:02:39PM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote:
> "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> The release of 2.1 "Slink" will happen: in Australia: at 11:00 AM
> >> ACT on Tuesday Mar 2
>
> Hamish> (If you mean Australian Central Time, that would be GMT+0930,
> Ha
[ Cc'ing this to interested parties in the Bay Area - we're talking about
BOF's/release parties on monday. ]
David Welton wrote:
> Oh, I think he's got enough to do as it is, I think the rest of us
> could figure this one out on our own;-)
Amen!
I'm getting fairly stressed out since I've been
George Bonser wrote:
> Since the show is in SJ, we should probably have something in the South
> Bay for the folks that will be visiting. Driving to SF from SJ in the
> evening on a weeknight is not a picnic.
This is a very good point.
Hm. I could probably organize a north bay carpool and get mo
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 11:02:17AM -0800, Mike Garfias wrote:
> when I run cvs enlightenment as a user I get an error message similar to this
> (exact wording not known): Enlightenment cannot find the directory
> /usr/share/enlightenment/config.
>
> I've checked the directory for proper permissio
I don't know where to post this to, but this seemed as good a place as any.
This is not a Debian vs Redhat flame war email, so please do not treat this
posting like that.
A couple of weeks ago there was a poll, which showed that redhat hat had
about 2 or three times as many users as debian, and th
Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I installed Debian last night on a ThinkPad and this morning had to continue,
> but it kept going into loops, installing emacs and python again and again
> until I rebooted the thing. Now I will remove emacs and python, since I don't
> think I will need emac
Further to my previous posting:
I have just found this article:
http://www.zdnet.com/devhead/stories/articles/0,4413,2217609,00.html
Is it any wonder redhat are number one when they can find people to write
articles like this?
frankie
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Frankie wrote:
>
> On the basis that linux is soundly based on ideology and a belief that the
> internet should remain free, debian may well be the best distribution, and
> on that basis, redhat the worst.
>
Just for perspective: Red Hat is by far the best commercial distri
> OK, so the two leading distros are redhat and debian. debian, on the one
> hand, is run as a voluntary organisation etc, whereas redhat is (or is going
> the way of) a corporation, in the sense that it employs programmers, is very
> far ahead of any of the competition and (arguably although I th
Subject: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 03:54:04AM -
In reply to:Frankie
Quoting Frankie([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> I don't know where to post this to, but this seemed as good a place as any.
> This is not a Debian vs Redh
Hi!
Can anybody explain me what's going on here? The system hals after
spitting for some time these messages... It has already happened thrice.
My Computer data: AMB K6-200, 96 MB RAM, Linux 2.0.36, Debian hamm
Any clue would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.
We need, to work on the install. Debian is so awesome. Yet, will not be
noticed by the masses unless the install method becomes better than RH.
RH's method is open sourced. So there should be a way for debian to make
it better.
I'm willing to participate in a marketing effort. Such an effort
http://ompages.com/debian/pkgs/pine/pine.html now has 3.96 and 4.10. I
too had problems with 4.10 being slow.
check 'em out
NatePuri
Certified Law Student
& Debian GNU/Linux Monk
McGeorge School of Law
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://ompages.com
Since non-us has gone MIA again many people are asking about alternative
sources..
The kind people at the Univeristy of Toronto have setup a non-us mirror,
you can access it using these APT sources.list entries
deb http://conan.eecg.toronto.edu/debian-non-US potato non-US
deb http://conan.eecg.t
Paul Nathan Puri wrote:
>
> We need, to work on the install. Debian is so awesome. Yet, will not be
> noticed by the masses unless the install method becomes better than RH.
> RH's method is open sourced. So there should be a way for debian to make
> it better.
>
> I'm willing to participate i
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Since non-us has gone MIA again many people are asking about alternative
> sources..
>
> The kind people at the Univeristy of Toronto have setup a non-us mirror,
> you can access it using these APT sources.list entries
>
> deb http://conan.eecg.toronto.edu/debian-non-US p
dear reader,
I'v download some packages (.deb) and with
dselect after , A, U, S and then I(nstall) i get the following message;
"-no filename at -e line 12 chunk18" .
What does this mean
?
What to do, Is there something I do
wrong?
It is the first time I downloaded some packages,
till
tracheotomy bob:
> Finally,
> How do I compile up Debian source code safely so that it doesn't
> upset dpkg?
...
> I don't want to upgrade to Slink and have to do the job all over again.
I understand the usual way is to change the version number to something
that's not likely to be exceeded
John Plate:
> > How can I have a console start up an application automatically when
> > the system boots?
Jens Ritter:
> Look at the "open" package and the scripts in /etc/init.d and have a
> look at /etc/inittab, too.
The difference between the two being that the init.d scripts are run once,
whe
crp:
...
> Should I use dpkg to force the downgrade of libc6 from the t version to the u
> version and then rerun apt-get upgrade?
> Will it break the packages that depend on libc6_2.0.7u only temporarily?
Hmm, personally I've been running slink packages against the hamm libc with
no problems (ap
Mark Wagnon:
> Johann Spies wrote:
...
> > \newcounter{mynecounter}
> >
> > However the following file results in an error message when I run LaTeX:
...
> > \bepaling
...
> I am by no means a LaTeX guru, but I think the problem is that \bepaling
> isn't a TeX or LaTeX command.
If you are trying
Actually, I have the same problem, though in Windows. Netscape only
crashes for me when I have another program open at the same time, Richwin,
AND when it encounters applets. It's very strange. My emails to netscape
also revealed no answers. It's really quite strange.
At 08:28 PM 2/26/99 -0500
Can anyone recommend a protocol for downloading
the base14-X.bin 's using either x ,y or z modem
or more specifically which arguments to use with
sz
I always get remote user abort when I'm about
half way through the file.
Many TIA
angus claydon
* Knghtbrd bops netgod for the subject line
--
"Do you think she's the sincere type? ... Yeah, I was afraid of that."
-- Richie Ryan, Highlander: The Series
On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 07:15:55PM -0600, David Welton wrote:
> > > Anyway, 4 PM is a bit early for me on Monday (have to work), but if
> > > people would like to meet somewhere that evening, it could be fun.
> > >
> > > How about it?
> >
> > I'd recommend getting together with Joey Hess ([EMAIL
* Knghtbrd bops netgod for the subject line
* joeyh_bed notes thankfully that he's never heard the song
--
see shy jo
Hi ho
Ship's Log, Lt. Johnie Ingram, Stardate 260299.1743:
> in Europe: at 0:00 midnight UTC on Tuesday Mar 2
Argl .. that's a bit early ...
I meen for me to come home on Thu. ... let's see if I can make it thin Mon. on
Mon. ...
> #debian, irc.debian.org. Everyone is invited for the
Here is my problem, can anyone
help?
Having partitioned my hard disk, I've tried to install
debian-linux from my dos partition and using floppies.
Using the dos partition, I get to "install the base
system" but I can't get the set-up program to find the base2_0.tgz file on
my (windows 98)
On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, Brian Almeida wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 11:02:17AM -0800, Mike Garfias wrote:
> > when I run cvs enlightenment as a user I get an error message similar to
> > this
> > (exact wording not known): Enlightenment cannot find the directory
> > /usr/share/enlightenment/conf
> > Now I may be wrong, but I believe that many (if not the majority) of
> > linux users are attracted to linux because its free, and because it is
> > symbolic of the backlash against the large corporation ethos of many of
> > its competitors, rather than its reliability (let alone it's ease of
> i was wondering if there's anyone here who gives web based mail services
> to their customers. if so, what package/application can you suggest w/c,
> based on ur experiences is proven to work in a nice and stable way.
This is getting to be a FAQ. :-)
Nice is easy, stable is the difficul
In unix system V r4 there is a tool for administration is name is
sysadm. Is there any package in debian official CD's equivalent to it?
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Every time I run x11amp (0.9a3-1), it starts four processes:
telmerco 12315 0.3 6.3 5564 4020 ?S09:59 0:00 x11amp
telmerco 12323 0.0 6.3 5564 4020 ?S09:59 0:00 x11amp
telmerco 12331 0.0 6.3 5564 4020 ?S09:59 0:00 x11amp
telmerco 12330 0.2 6.3 5
I'm getting a whole bunch of errors while tying to use Linux, such as:
crc error system halted
ext2 error in superblock
free_one_bmd: bad directory entry 0008
trying to free non-existent swap-page
segmentation fault
currupted filesystem
These errors come completely at random. Sometimes durin
[Vincent, please use < 80 char lines.]
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 16:33:07 +0100, V.H.Berk wrote:
> I'm getting a whole bunch of errors while tying to use Linux, such as:
>
> crc error system halted
> ext2 error in superblock
> free_one_bmd: bad directory entry 0008
> trying to free non-existen
Apologies to anyone paying to read this, but problem solved
by using -r option to append to what was already downloaded.
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Angus Claydon wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a protocol for downloading
> the base14-X.bin 's using either x ,y or z modem
> or more specifically w
hmm, I assume that I can still post to this list . . .
My outgoing messages now end up with a line that reads,
From: "Richard E. Hawkins Esq." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have no idea where this line is coming from. While that is a
university address that forwards to me, this box shouldn't even kno
has anyone successsfully gotten dhcp to run on a box with 2 ethernet cards?
If so, then what did you use and how did you setup the dhcpd.conf file?
-tom-
Any hints for the stpid?
I have the linux central official debain 2.0binary i36 cd with kernel
2.0.34. It boots. When I get to the "install kernel..." option, it
can't find the cd and hints that I should try iinsmod. "insmod cdrom"
doesn't work. I've added a /cdrom directory and "mount -t iso9660
> After installing gnome programs from slink, the programs won't run. I
> get the following error message
>
> gnome-session: error in loading shared libraries
> /usr/lib/libgnome.so.31: undefined symbol: poptHelpOptions
Somebody's already filed a bug on this.
I downloaded bithcx_75-2.deb from slink, and it says it depends on
libncurses4. All I've been able to find has been libncurses4-dbg_4.2-3.deb,
which depends on libncurses4-dev, and libncurses4-dev_4.2-3.deb which in
turn depends libncurses4... what provides libncurses4, or where may I find
that li
Geoffrey Deasey KD4WVF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I think that the main reason for redhats success in numbers has more to
> do with the installation program. Many of us can peice together
> a broken install and get it working. But we are now venturing into
> a different and larger world.
Hello all,
Thanks to everybody who helped me to get TrueType fonts going...
Netscape is using them right now, and it looks MUCH better anyway,
the fonts are not "seen" ny Wordperfect... is there a way to get WP to
recognize / use my nice new Arial font? (does anyone else think that the
fonts
I have now finally figured out the main issues (for me) concerning the Linux
install-and-get-it-running problem. Through all this, It (Linux) has simply
verified what I have always suspicioned. That is:
Bill Gates is similar to a drug dealer.
He got everyone hooked on windows, and we now must buy
I want a tool whit menus or at least with the same interface of fdisk
that I can use to add, delete users and asign permisions?
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Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hm. I could probably organize a north bay carpool and get most north bayers
> down there, if necessary. But it'd have to start after 6:30pm or we'd
> certinly be late (I can't leave until 5 myself).
>
> The alternative is to just push it back until Tuesday,
On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Nathan O. Siemers wrote:
> I strongly agree. I have personal convictions that debian is
> the higher quality dist, but I cannot reccomend it to the corporation
> I work for simply because of the install process and dselect issues.
>
The install is actually quite easy
Ok, so the consensus seems to be that everyone wants to meet near
where they live;-) It might be nice to carpool a bit further south, so
as to accomodate the people closer to san jose... Urk, I don't know
if I want to drive with all those swarms of other people during rush
hour, though. San Mateo
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 12:37:13PM -0600, David Welton wrote:
> Ok, so the consensus seems to be that everyone wants to meet near
> where they live;-) It might be nice to carpool a bit further south, so
> as to accomodate the people closer to san jose... Urk, I don't know
> if I want to drive with
I don't think Debian has to be the number one distribution in order to
be successful. Any growth in Linux use, no matter what the distribution,
is good for the whole community.
It is important to understand the developer/user relationship is, or
should, be different in a volunteer structure than th
Disclaimer: I live in San Jose. :-)
But still, if this is supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether,
wouldn't it make the most sense to have it *near* Linuxworld?
Convenient for people visiting the area for Linuxworld and staying in
nearby {h,m}otels, convenient for people attending Linuxworl
David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ok, so the consensus seems to be that everyone wants to meet near
> where they live;-) It might be nice to carpool a bit further south, so
> as to accomodate the people closer to san jose... Urk, I don't know
> if I want to drive with all those swarms of
While I am also in San Jose, I'd say that we may want to have two parties, one
down here in San Jose for those staying down this way, and for those who live
or are staying further north to have a party up there. Just a thought...
Dave
On
Tommy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> One last thing I think it is unfortunate that Debian is know as the
> geekiest distribution of a geek os. I have no CS backround but, I
> downloaded 0.93 from the net and have used Debian ever since, except the
> time when my ex girlfriend took my computer. I
Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Disclaimer: I live in San Jose. :-)
>
> But still, if this is supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether,
> wouldn't it make the most sense to have it *near* Linuxworld?
> Convenient for people visiting the area for Linuxworld and staying in
> nearby
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 11:12:56AM -0500, Thomas and Donna Lopolito wrote:
> has anyone successsfully gotten dhcp to run on a box with 2 ethernet cards?
> If so, then what did you use and how did you setup the dhcpd.conf file?
Hmm. I used the HOWTO. The only problem I had was that the ethernet car
George Bonser wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Frankie wrote:
> > A couple of weeks ago there was a poll, which showed that redhat hat had
> > about 2 or three times as many users as debian, and that redhat was first
> > with debian was second, but far closer to the other distros than to redhat.
>
Is it possible to re-size the extended partition without losing the
logical drives ?
I am running Debian 2.0 (slink) on a 1.6 GB HDD with the partition table
as follows:
/dev/hda1 DOS200MB
/dev/hda2 / 150MB
/dev/hda3 /tmp 150MB
/dev/hda4 EXT
/dev/hda5 swap64MB
/dev/hda6
A number of you have offhandedly remarked that you believe Debian to be
technically superior to the RH distribution. I was wondering if anyone
would care to elaborate on that a bit for me. Currently I am running
RH5.2, but I am thinking of switching over to Debian once the final
version of slink
I am running Debian 2.0 (slink) on a 486DX33 with only 10MB RAM and my
computer is often working hard (having to make use of a lot of virtual
memory). I am using a three-button mouse running the MouseSystems
protocol in Xwindows and I am running gpm with -t msc.
As long as there is not a heavy loa
Actually..nutscrape 4.5 kinda sucks in my humble opinion...use 4.08.. 4.5
has more bugs than a micro$haft beta...lol... Really..I don't know about the
java thing, but the mail is horrid...only goes to reason that if the mail
blows, then the rest of the thing must have problems too... 4.0 will wo
Formerly: Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
At 08:44 PM 2/26/99 -0800, George Bonser wrote:
>On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Frankie wrote:
>> Yet most linux users opt for redhat.
>Because it is the only distribution that many
>have heard of.
Also, Red Hat is being given shelf
At 11:51 PM 2/26/99 -0500, Geoffrey Deasey KD4WVF wrote:
>We are attracting windows users and they
>come to us with no linux experience. I tryed
>debian a while ago and became so
>frustrated with dselect that I gave up twice.
Exactly true. I used apt-get to install Slink and believe apt-get is
In a nutshell,
RH has the easy install method, debian has the easy upgrade of individual
packages method (i.e., apt-get install package.deb.
Debian is also a bit more stable. I think, that the support in chat rooms
and mailing lists is far superior as well.
On the downside, sometimes packages a
They easiest way to use dselect is to choose the source, then do not
select extra packages outside of the defaults. Except scroll down and
select apt. Then hit return. This will install the default base system.
Later use "apt-get install" to install the mail client, mta, etc that you
want. This
ich habe auf meinem rechner debian linux 2.0 laufen, ferner is dort eine
MAD16PRO
(82c924) isa pnp soundkarte.
wie kann ich diese unter linux konfigurieren?
vielen dank im vorauß
a.p.
As far as I can understand, you are wondering about the sound card
configuration of MAD?
Well, I don't have that card, but on the basic level that works for
soundcards that are pnp:
1. Go into windows and get settings from there, such as COM port, IO base,
IRQ.
2. Read documentation on sound driver
Hi,
I'm having this problem for quite some time. I keep on seeing this
message about "LCP EchoReq" on /var/log:
[...]
Feb 26 06:35:12 localhost pppd[23168]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x4e
magic=0x30c5fb97]
Feb 26 06:35:12 localhost pppd[23168]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x4e
magic=0x91dc4c0d]
Feb 26 06:
I like the machine name, "skunkpussy." Hehe.
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 03:54:04AM -, Frankie wrote:
> ...
> I think that debian needs to adopt a (slightly) aggressive marketing policy,
> to increase its userbase. The fact that it doesn't have professional
> marketers counts in redhat's favour.
You see those messages whenever you are logged on to your ISP.
There is nothing wrong with that.
Andrew
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George Bonser wrote:
>
> On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote:
>
> >
> > First, I think a *lot* of the Debian users are using it at least
> > in part based on 'political' issues such as Debian being the only
> > non-commercial distribution (myself included). For one thing, as
> > another
Matt Garman wrote:
>
> I like the machine name, "skunkpussy." Hehe.
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 03:54:04AM -, Frankie wrote:
> > ...
> > I think that debian needs to adopt a (slightly) aggressive marketing policy,
> > to increase its userbase. The fact that it doesn't have professional
> > m
Well, if you wanted to get into downtown San Jose from Caltrain, you can take
Caltrain into Santa Clara. From there, hop the 60 bus north to the end of the
line, which connects to Light Rail. Unfortunately, light rail is currently
being extended, so there's a shuttle bus that will take you from t
I'm still trying to install CD-RW, an HP IDE version. I've compiled the
scsi emulation, scsi cd-rom. ./MAKEDEV sg-all, it won't do ./MAKEDEV sr.
I can't mount /dev/scd0, /dev/sr0, or dev/sg0. I really want to make this
ide cd writer work. Thanks...
NatePuri
Certified Law Student
& Debian GNU/L
Paul Nathan Puri wrote:
>I'm still trying to install CD-RW, an HP IDE version. I've compiled the
^^^
>scsi emulation, scsi cd-rom. ./MAKEDEV sg-all, it won't do ./MAKEDEV sr.
>I can't mount /dev/scd0, /dev/sr0, or dev/sg0. I really want t
On Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 10:38:08PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
> Paul Nathan Puri wrote:
> >I'm still trying to install CD-RW, an HP IDE version. I've compiled the
> ^^^
> >scsi emulation, scsi cd-rom. ./MAKEDEV sg-all, it won't do ./MAKEDEV sr.
>
I installed the scientific package of Debian 2.0. Everything worked so
well that I decided to give more space on my hard disk to it. After
creating the additional space, I reinstalled in what I thought was
exactly the same way. The list of packages from dpk --list is the
same. But things do not wor
> Every time I run x11amp (0.9a3-1), it starts four processes:
Yup, that's supposed to happen. If you do a ps uxf, you'll notice that some
of the x11amp processes are actually spawned by the original that you
started. I think it has to do with threading.
Hope that helps,
Alan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I got the following error with the attached program when attempting to
> compile with "gcc coil1.c".
>
> /tmp/ccc00256: In function `main':
> /tmp/ccc00256<.txt+0x92): undefined reference to `sqrt'
>
>
> I assume that this is a link error and that the required lib is not being
> included. Wha
I can gain http access via a proxy. Is it possible to setup apt-get
to download stuff via this proxy?
Thanks,
Mark.
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/~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips
/~~\_/[EMAIL PROTE
On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Mark Phillips wrote:
> I can gain http access via a proxy. Is it possible to setup apt-get
> to download stuff via this proxy?
export http_proxy="http://myproxy:port/";
apt-get foo..
Jason
Reply-To:
I just got the commerical version of WP8 for Linux, and I've got one problem:
There aren't any more fonts! I uninstalled the existing version that I had in
~/wp8 and loaded the CD version in /usr/local/wp. Anyone have any suggestions
for getting the other 130 fonts that the box claims
Subject: a tool like dselect for administer debian?
Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 09:58:31AM -0800
In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> I want a tool whit menus or at least with the same interface of fdisk
> that I can use to add, delete
David Bristel writes:
> Well, if you wanted to get into downtown San Jose from Caltrain, you
> can take Caltrain into Santa Clara.
[and take a bus a long way to light rail]
Huh? Caltrain goes to San Jose. It stops right by the Arena, which is
only a few blocks from downtown and light rail (an
Chris Waters wrote:
> OTOH, if we weight the bay area by number of packages, then obviously we
> should meet at Joey Hess's house. If debian packages had mass, Joey's
> computer would be inside a Schwarzchild radius. :-)
There are currently 819,253 .deb files located inside my house, give or tak
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