Re: Typing software [OFF TOPIC}

1998-11-24 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
eric enlightened, > There is a debian package called ... typist! It works OK, though it > has some bugs in some of the lessons: sometimes part of the previous > page remains on the screen. It was good enough for me to get the gist > of touch typing, I suppose the rest will be a matter of pract

qmail 1.03 package?

1998-11-24 Thread Paul Miller
Is there a qmail 1.03 package? qmail 1.03 has been out for a long time... Thanks -Paul

XFree86 mouse button configuration

1998-11-24 Thread Paul Miller
I just got a new logitech 4 button mouse and in X, the buttons are all screwed up. The middle button doesn't work and the thomb button ask as the middle button. How can I assign what button does what? Thanks -Paul

netscape communicator 4.5 - spell check is disabled

1998-11-24 Thread Paul Miller
The spell check option in netscape communicator 4.5 is greyed out. How can I enable spell checking? Thanks -Paul

Re: RIP on Debian?

1998-11-24 Thread Stephen A. Witt
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > > Is the routing protocol RIP available as part of a debian package? If so, > which package? > > Thank you, > > -- > Pedro I. Sanchez > Yes: dpkg -S routed libc6-dev: /usr/include/protocols/routed.h netstd:/usr/man/man8/routed.

Re: RIP on Debian?

1998-11-24 Thread Mário Olímpio de Menezes
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Stephen A. Witt wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hello, Is the routing protocol RIP available as part of a debian > package? If so, which package? Thank you, > Pedro I. Sanchez > > > > Yes: yes. ~$ dpkg -S ripd ipxripd: /usr/doc/ipxripd/buildin

Re: [Perl-AI] distributed intelligence

1998-11-24 Thread Zack Brown
> Hands up who thinks we can build a global web mind with what we've got > right now. It's a pretty vague question. Do you mean a mind on a level with human powers? I say no. Do you mean a mind that is very interesting? We can do that on our desktops. Can you be more specific about the capabilitie

Re: How to calculate the proper modeline? (DCF?

1998-11-24 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
Hi, *-Jan Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | I am reading "XFree86 Video Timings HOWTO" and I would like to | compute DCF/HSF but I do not know what DCF (dot clock frequency) | is ? I mean I do not know where it comes from? It's the number of pixels that the video card will send to

Re: XFree86 mouse button configuration

1998-11-24 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
hi I just got a new logitech 4 button mouse and in X, the buttons are all screwed up. The middle button doesn't work and the thomb button ask as the middle button. How can I assign what button does what? maybe it helps http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ Thanks

Mouse freezes

1998-11-24 Thread Andrew Ivanov
I got a small problem in X: sometimes, when I restart my xserver, mouse stops working, and only reboot fixes it. Any ideas what is it? Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code.

Re: netscape woes

1998-11-24 Thread Jonathan Crowe
Ed Cogburn wrote: > > > Question #1: The location /usr/local is reserved (by the Filesystem > Standard) for packages/programs you the local admin/user installs > yourself. These programs are not known by the Debian/dpkg system. dpkg > is not allowed to do anything in /usr/local, thus it

Adaptec aha1740 errors

1998-11-24 Thread John C. Ellingboe
Hello, I have a Dell EISA server box with a Adaptec AHA1740 controller that has been working well for some time now. Lately I get messages on the console "aha1740[xx]_mbxout wait!" ,the xx is a random number, but the system seems to be functioning properly. Is this something that I should be conc

xplaycd probs

1998-11-24 Thread Dave Swegen
Since it seems that xplaycd is so bug-ridden (at least it has anumber of problems on my system) I was hoping someone might recommend a good cd-player, preferably one that doesn't use YABL (yet another bloody library ;) ie lesstif or gtk1.1, and that has as nice and clean a frontend as xplaycd... A

mutt & vim

1998-11-24 Thread Dave Swegen
I'm currently using pico as the composer for mutt, but would like to switch to vim. Problem is that I have vim setup for programming in .vimrc, and need different settings for mail composition. So how do I go about telling vim to use a different vimrc when called from mutt? Cheers Dave --

Re: RIP on Debian?

1998-11-24 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Mário Olímpio de Menezes wrote: : On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Stephen A. Witt wrote: : : > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : > : > Hello, Is the routing protocol RIP available as part of a debian : > package? If so, which package? Thank you, : > Pedro I. San

Re: DEL key in Xemacs

1998-11-24 Thread Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez
HI Daniel : > > Well, nothing in the HOWTO works! > There is bizarre situation, on my computer the del and backspace key are working correctly. Perhaps the TERM environment variable is not correctly set. That variable must be "linux" : )n bash do :

Re: mutt & vim

1998-11-24 Thread Peter Berlau
On Tue, Nov 24, 1998 at 03:08:13PM +, Dave Swegen wrote: > I'm currently using pico as the composer for mutt, but would like to > switch to vim. Problem is that I have vim setup for programming in .vimrc, > and need different settings for mail composition. So how do I go about > telling vim to

Re: Mouse freezes

1998-11-24 Thread Peter Berlau
On Tue, Nov 24, 1998 at 12:07:50PM -0600, Andrew Ivanov wrote: > I got a small problem in X: sometimes, when I restart my xserver, mouse > stops working, and only reboot fixes it. > Any ideas what is it? Looks like You have Mouse-Support added as module (?), after a time of unussed mouse the modul

Re: kernal building

1998-11-24 Thread Joop Stakenborg
> > debian 2.0 > > i try to 'make xconfig' > > the final message is: > make: wish: Command not found. > > in what package can i find the wish command? > You have to install tk8.0. > afa > -- Joop [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mouse freezes

1998-11-24 Thread Michele Bini
On Tue, Nov 24, 1998 at 07:38:23PM +0100, Peter Berlau wrote: > On Tue, Nov 24, 1998 at 12:07:50PM -0600, Andrew Ivanov wrote: > > I got a small problem in X: sometimes, when I restart my xserver, mouse > > stops working, and only reboot fixes it. > > Any ideas what is it? > Looks like You have Mou

MSDOS, FAT support in custom kernel

1998-11-24 Thread Alex McCool
ok. I'm lost. Where is the option to build msdos, and fat into a custom kernel? I'm using the "make menuconfig"

Re: MSDOS, FAT support in custom kernel

1998-11-24 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
"Alex McCool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | ok. I'm lost. Where is the option to build msdos, and fat into a custom | kernel? | I'm using the "make menuconfig" Enable native language support (NLS) and you'll see it. Gary

Re: XFree86 mouse button configuration

1998-11-24 Thread servis
*- Paul Miller wrote about "XFree86 mouse button configuration" > > I just got a new logitech 4 button mouse and in X, the buttons are all > screwed up. The middle button doesn't work and the thomb button ask as > the middle button. How can I assign what button does what? > > Thanks > -Paul >

Re: I do not have the X font "fixed" -- where might I find it ?

1998-11-24 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Nov 23, 1998 at 09:02:59PM -0500, Darxus wrote: > > I have no fonts on my machine with the string "fixed" (case insensitive) > in them, and I've been running X successfully. I'm currently running > Debian v2.1. please add the following to the system configuration file /etc/vnc.conf

Re: mutt & vim

1998-11-24 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Tue, Nov 24, 1998 at 15:08:13 +, Dave Swegen asked: > I'm currently using pico as the composer for mutt, but would like to > switch to vim. Problem is that I have vim setup for programming in .vimrc, > and need different settings for mail composition. So how do I go about > telling vim to us

Re: MSDOS, FAT support in custom kernel

1998-11-24 Thread Gary L. Hennigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary L. Hennigan) writes: | "Alex McCool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | ok. I'm lost. Where is the option to build msdos, and fat into a custom | | kernel? | | I'm using the "make menuconfig" | | Enable native language support (NLS) and you'll see it. Let me rephrase that j

Re: Mouse freezes

1998-11-24 Thread Andrew Ivanov
No, my mouse is a device in my kernel. Btw, I'm using Microsoft mouse, plugged into Com1. But it's not an IRQ conflict, my isapnp managed all IRQ numbers. Anymore ideas? Andrew Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Iva

Re: qmail 1.03 package?

1998-11-24 Thread Oliver Thuns
>Is there a qmail 1.03 package? qmail 1.03 has been out for a long >time... I don't think so, but it would be very nice. A checkpasswd package and an up-to-date ezmlm-idx package would also be very nice. -- \|/ \|/ "@'/ .. \`@" /_| \__/ |_\ \__U_/

Re: [Debian] max. swap size?

1998-11-24 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Mon, Nov 16, 1998 at 10:33:47PM +0100, Peter Berlau wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 1998 at 06:18:04PM +0100, Nico De Ranter wrote: > > > > Howdy, > > > > I installed a PC with 128MB of RAM running Linux kernel 2.0.34 > > I added the append="mem=128M" line to lilo.conf so the system > > realy sees 12

Re: Xserver

1998-11-24 Thread Daniel Elenius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Does anyone know if there is a working xserver for the RivaTNT chipset? > I just purchased the 16meg Creative Labs graphic blaster with this > chipset, and want to get the latest server for it. I think one > exists, but I can't seem to locate it. Oh, a fellow Linux TnT-

Re: How to customize fvwm entries ?

1998-11-24 Thread shaul
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (shaul) writes: > > > My /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook has the following entry for lyx: > > > > [23:36:37 shaul]$ grep lyx /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook > > + "&lyx" Exec/usr/X11R6/bin/lyx > > [23:38:51 shaul] > > > > I want to change it to > > > > + "&lyx" Exec /usr

No netconfig tool in debian?

1998-11-24 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Hi all, seems to be that Debian is the only Linux distribution which don't have its own network configuration tool. If you didn't configure all correctly at installation time, you have to look at many files, which can be quite ennerving and error prone. Now the installation script exists, and it

groovy xdm login screen [was: Re: screenshot]

1998-11-24 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
"E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I made this groovy looking xdm login screen and now I want to make a What about making it available to the public? I have always looked after a nice login screen (I have to admit that I am missing fantasy to make one myself), but the ones I saw

Re: procmail ........ (again)

1998-11-24 Thread Torsten Hilbrich
On: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:10:47 -0600 (EST) Nathan E Norman writes: > > On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Steve Lamb wrote: > : On Sun, Nov 22, 1998 at 10:44:59PM +, Gossamer wrote: > : > Actually you don't need ANY .forward fo rprocmail to work, as long as > : > you have a .procmailrc file in your homedi

Re: /etc/modules

1998-11-24 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "RR" == Robert Rati <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RR> Does anyone have the default /etc/modules file? Tia. There is no such thing. You most likely need to load other modules then I have to. One thing to do is to just have "auto" in the file. This will enable the kerneld, which will autoload n

Re: MSDOS, FAT support in custom kernel

1998-11-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
In the 'filesystems' area, chose 'native language support'. This was deselected by default in 2.0.34, but is selected by default in 2.0.35/36. Bob On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Alex McCool wrote: > > ok. I'm lost. Where is the option to build msdos, and fat into a custom > kernel? > I'm using the "ma

Re: groovy xdm login screen [was: Re: screenshot]

1998-11-24 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Joachim Trinkwitz wrote: > I think there should be a nicer xdm login screen as standard in Debian > (doesn't need to have much graphics or so, just not these ugly looking > naked defaults). An easy one to make uses the redand white Debian icon as tiled background.

Package available: xmeter (rstat display for X)

1998-11-24 Thread Bo Branten
The program xmeter (rstat display for X) is available as a Debian package. Until it gets included officially it is available from: http://www.ing.umu.se/~bosse/debian new debian package, version 2.0. size 19818 bytes: control archive= 815 bytes. 642 bytes,17 lines control

Package available: minfo (GNU Info file browser for X)

1998-11-24 Thread Bo Branten
The program minfo (GNU Info file browser for X) is available as a Debian package. Until it gets included officially it is available from: http://www.ing.umu.se/~bosse/debian new debian package, version 2.0. size 37454 bytes: control archive= 1162 bytes. 860 bytes,22 lines con

Re: PPP problems

1998-11-24 Thread Ed Cogburn
Rodrigo Moya wrote: > > Hi all > > After running pppconfig and running pppd provider (where provider is the > name of the file created by pppconfig), I get the following results (from > tail -f /var/log/messages): > > CONNECT stuff and so > . > expect (ogin: login_name) >

which library has these function? [do_lio,f_open . . .

1998-11-24 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
g77 can find these, but absoft fortran can't. They come indirectly (directly?) from pgplot, and g77 successfully links: f90 bubbles1.f90 -lpgplot -lX11 -L /usr/X11R6/lib -YEXT_SFX=_ -YEXT_NAMES=ASIS -lm -lcpgplot /usr/lib/libpgplot.so: undefined reference to `do_lio' /usr/lib/libpgplot.so: un

Re: netscape woes

1998-11-24 Thread Ed Cogburn
Oliver Elphick wrote: > > Ed Cogburn wrote: > > Question #1: The location /usr/local is reserved (by the Filesystem > >Standard) for packages/programs you the local admin/user installs > >yourself. These programs are not known by the Debian/dpkg system. dpkg > >is not allowed to do

Re: netscape woes

1998-11-24 Thread Ed Cogburn
Jonathan Crowe wrote: > > Ed Cogburn wrote: > > > > > > > Question #1: The location /usr/local is reserved (by the Filesystem > > Standard) for packages/programs you the local admin/user installs > > yourself. These programs are not known by the Debian/dpkg system. dpkg > > is not allo

Re: Is name server discovery possible?

1998-11-24 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 12:09:29AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Have ip-up call a setuid program to specifically edit resolv.conf or > > named.conf, if they exist. > > This is the obvious way to do it, but there is a policy question about > messing with these files. Hmm, what about putting

Re: IPFW works a little to well...

1998-11-24 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 06:14:57AM -0600, Anthony Landreneau wrote: > Greetings, > Looking for a little help with ipfwadm. Got a good machine running 2.0, > two nics and the system is passing traffic wonderfully. Now I would like > to put in packet filtering. IPFW sounds as though it will fi

icmplogd: destination unreachable from localhost ?

1998-11-24 Thread Michael Grimm
Hello - I recently installed a mail2news gateway for my local INN. Incoming mail is forwarded via procmail to Miquel van Smoorenburg's mail2news perl-script (Cistron) and then posted via rnews to a local newsgroup. This runs smoothly, so far. But I get warnings from icmplogd for every posting, and

Re: Netscape 4.5 in slink (problems)

1998-11-24 Thread Ed Cogburn
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: > > Hi Debian users, > I had Netscape installed. Then I upgraded it to Netscape 4.5 that is > in slink. Now, when I run netscape from xterm I got the following error > messages: > grep: /etc/netscape4/config: No such file or directory > eg

Re: netscape communicator 4.5 - spell check is disabled

1998-11-24 Thread Ed Cogburn
Paul Miller wrote: > > The spell check option in netscape communicator 4.5 is greyed out. How > can I enable spell checking? > > Thanks > -Paul > Did you install the spell checker package 'communicator-spellchk-45'. -- Ed C.

Re: SVGATextMode! (was Re: Console mode with >80x24 possible?

1998-11-24 Thread Eric House
> SVGATextMode has more advantages over vga= option: > > * You can choose from dozens of textmodes, for example 100x37 is nice here. > vga= only allows three (I think). > > * You can design your own text modes if you have special needs (for example > visually impaired can choose 40x20. Linux

Netscape confusion

1998-11-24 Thread Gossamer
I'm trying to install Netscape from the new don't-need-to-do-separate-downloads trendy thing but I'm thoroughly confused :(. I've installed netscape-base-4 and netscape-base-45 and netscape-java-45 but none of them seem to contain the binary. Nor does the explanations say what other package they

ACE-4.6.4 packages available for testing

1998-11-24 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi, I just released some unofficial Debian packages (I'm not an official Debian developer yet) for Doug Schmidt's ACE library. They are available at: ftp://moc.tn.cornell.edu/pub/othman/aceconf/debian Note that the shlibs dependencies file is probably corrupt since I built the packages

Problem with PPP & ISDN

1998-11-24 Thread Joe Emenaker
I've got a little linux box configured as a dial-on-demand masquerading router for the other machines in my house. It works great. when using a normal modem. I got ISDN, and I've been able to use it without any problems when I use it directly from my Windows98 machine. However, when I try usi

Re: Netscape confusion

1998-11-24 Thread Ed Cogburn
Gossamer wrote: > > I'm trying to install Netscape from the new > don't-need-to-do-separate-downloads trendy thing but I'm thoroughly > confused :(. > > I've installed netscape-base-4 and netscape-base-45 and > netscape-java-45 but none of them seem to contain the binary. Nor > does the explanat

Re: Netscape confusion

1998-11-24 Thread Ingo Saitz
MoiN On 24 Nov 1998, Gossamer wrote: > I've installed netscape-base-4 and netscape-base-45 and > netscape-java-45 but none of them seem to contain the binary. Nor > does the explanations say what other package they need to complete > it. NOR do theydepend on anything else. > > What'd I miss? >

No more procmail, now exim..........

1998-11-24 Thread Phillip Neumann
Hello, Well i still cannot make procmail to filter my emails. But i will give exim a chance it has failed in chance #1: now is exim that is deleting my mails I run fetchmail and it says getting 3 messages or similar. Then i check for mails and i dont have any Here is my .forwar

Re: Mouse freezes

1998-11-24 Thread Martin Bialasinski
>> "AI" == Andrew Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AI> I got a small problem in X: sometimes, when I restart my xserver, AI> mouse stops working, and only reboot fixes it. I saw this just today (ps/2 M$ mouse). I restarted the Xserver, and it worked again. I believe it is gpm interfering somew

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Aaron
I was deep in meditation when Marcin Krol awoke me by saying: > > For heaven's sakes, no! Even bad standard is better than lack of standard. I don't think so. With a lack of a standard, one has the option of weeding through available products/implementations for a "best-of-breed" product. Usually

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Greg S. Hayes
The lsb should stay out of desktop standardization. Not all linux implementations use desktops (or need them) and it would be a shame to cut embedded servers and various linux implementations out of the linux standard. Desktops are a value added product that should be handled by the ISVs and distri

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Davide Bolcioni
Comments below ... Rob Current wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Marcin Krol wrote: > > Probably E and GNUStep are. However, it is not important which desktop is > > most popular *right now*. KDE would be very important even if it were not > > very ergonomic or aesthetic. > > It's NOT. KDE is ugl

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Marcin Krol
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Greg S. Hayes wrote: > Desktops are a value added product Not at all. It's not seventies anymore. Now desktop (widely understood) is de facto part of OS. Marcin Krol - Hiroshima 45

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Davide Bolcioni
Marcin Krol wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Greg S. Hayes wrote: > > > Desktops are a value added product > > Not at all. It's not seventies anymore. Now desktop (widely understood) is > de facto part of OS. > > Marcin Krol In my opinion, one of the major points of the Unix approach is precise

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Marcin Krol
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Rob Current wrote: > It's NOT. KDE is ugly as sin. A matter of taste in 100%. > placed which included such things as: > > NAME Large Icon Small Icon Command Line > MAIN-- > Netscape netscape.xpm netscape-mini.xpm /usr/local/netscape/netscape > EMACSemacs.x

[Fwd: Desktop normalization]

1998-11-24 Thread Greg S. Hayes
--- Begin Message --- Marcin Krol wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Greg S. Hayes wrote: > > > Desktops are a value added product > > Not at all. It's not seventies anymore. Now desktop (widely understood) is > de facto part of OS. > But not all linux installs will use desktops so why make them

[Fwd: Desktop normalization]

1998-11-24 Thread Greg S. Hayes
--- Begin Message --- > It's NOT. KDE is ugly as sin. Following Motif'ish styling clues to create > an "environment" from which users get the impression of running a "blocky, > clunky, slow" system. Even some of KDE's biggest supporters will admit > that it's "bloated/slow" and the styling is n

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Marcin Krol
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Aaron wrote: > I was deep in meditation when Marcin Krol awoke me by saying: > > > > For heaven's sakes, no! Even bad standard is better than lack of standard. > > I don't think so. With a lack of a standard, one has the option of weeding > through available products/impleme

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Marcin Krol
On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > > An API to access either Gnome or KDE desktop strikes me as beyond the > > > scope of the LSB. > > > > 1. How about *generic desktop API*. 2. If there is any reason for LSB, it > > is desktop. > KDE is outside of any LSB work. Favoring any particular s

Re: Desktop normalizationy

1998-11-24 Thread Alan Cox
> > All that is needed other than that is a standard way to interface to "add > > this to rootmenu/toolbar" that can be used to update _all_ window manager > > data from fvwm to enlightenment as well as kde/gnome. > > That's what I mean. *All* of them. What users (I think) would love to see > is t

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Joel Maher
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Marcin Krol wrote: > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Greg S. Hayes wrote: > > > > Desktops are a value added product > > Not at all. It's not seventies anymore. Now desktop (widely understood) is > de facto part of OS. > I think Greg has a good point. I would be nice to include

Re: Desktop normalizationy

1998-11-24 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
There seems to be an awful lot of fuss over someone's simple suggestion of some way of standardizing the desktop. I think that everyone has taken it out of context, saying that defining a desktop standard is out of the scope of LSB, and that it would take away the customizability that we have. I sa

Re: Desktop normalizationy

1998-11-24 Thread Rahul Dave
I got this from you: > > > > All that is needed other than that is a standard way to interface to "add > > > this to rootmenu/toolbar" that can be used to update _all_ window manager > > > data from fvwm to enlightenment as well as kde/gnome. > > > > That's what I mean. *All* of them. What users

Re: Desktop normalizationy

1998-11-24 Thread Greg S. Hayes
If the lsb committies decide to add standards like desktop enviroments to linux we should probably create several levels of lsb compliance. One for the basics (the minimal linux) and others extending from there. If we don't do this we could rule out some linux machines from being considered linux (

Re: Desktop normalizationy

1998-11-24 Thread Joel Maher
> If the lsb committies decide to add standards like desktop enviroments > to linux we should probably create several levels of lsb compliance. One > for the basics (the minimal linux) and others extending from there. If > we don't do this we could rule out some linux machines from being > conside

Re: Desktop normalization

1998-11-24 Thread Marcin Krol
On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Davide Bolcioni wrote: > Marcin Krol wrote: > > > > On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Greg S. Hayes wrote: > > > > > Desktops are a value added product > > > > Not at all. It's not seventies anymore. Now desktop (widely understood) is > > de facto part of OS. > > > > Marcin Krol > In

Re: [Fwd: Desktop normalization]

1998-11-24 Thread imrana
>But not all linux installs will use desktops so why make them part of >the standard-base? If you were creating a standard base for an end-user >system your argument would make sense, but take into consideration that >there are alot of servers, enbeded systems, etc. that don't use a >desktop (or ev

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