> Enough is enough.
>
> It is time for Bruce Perens to step down form the leadership position, and an
> interim leader take his place until a new leader can be chosen at the formal
> election.
>
> I state the following facts as reasons:
blah, blah, blah...i don't know, i've been using Debian f
dc wrote:
>
> Enough is enough.
Why you cc to so many lists??? You thought that people only subscribed
one and only one of the lists.
How many lists do we have? You have not done enough yet. You have not
sent to all lists. Do it and bother anyone and email flooding their
accounts. And yes I
> Has anybody successfully install Microsoft Frontpage 98 Server Extensions
> on a Deabian 1.3 system with the Apache server?
I've installed the 97 extensions. The 98 extensions are supposed to be
easier to install but I haven't done it myself.
For more information check out:
http://larry.e
On Sun, Oct 26, 1997 at 12:13:21AM +0100, Jens Kerle wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 1997 at 07:09:37PM +0100, Jens Kerle wrote:
> > > hm...
> > > i had to execute the script at the end of
> > > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/README.sound (right name and p
--- "dc" wrote:
>Enough is enough.
I agree. I'm sick and tired of debian-user being hijacked by whining
"dissidents".
>It is time for Bruce Perens to step down form the leadership position, and an
>interim leader take his place until a new leader can be chosen at the formal
>election.
> I know that the question I am asking most probably have "It is impossible"
> as an answer. But still
I won't be impossible... just might not be coded yet :-)
> What I can not do (and what the question is about) is run an X-Windows
> application off remote host on my second computer. I mean
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 1997 at 12:13:21AM +0100, Jens Kerle wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 23, 1997 at 07:09:37PM +0100, Jens Kerle wrote:
> > > > hm...
> > > > i had to execute the script at the end of
> > > >
Well, it seems to me the returns are in. *Everyone* who responded to dc's
comments supports Bruce, and wishes dc would make good on his promise and
just leave.
I propose that from here on out we ignore dc, don't resond to anything he
posts, and perhaps he *will* live up to his promise, and apply
I've pulled my password from /etc/shadow and put in the O: field
in /etc/ircd/ircd.conf.
I still get invallid password when I do /oper cowboy x
I tried SUID/root, but ps -aux still shows ircd running as irc?!?
What am I missing?
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I ftp'd the debian gimp package from the maintainer's site. I had to
install a detailed list of upgrades to be sure it would work. I THINK I
installed them all right(!?!).
But, while The GIMP runs, it won't load any file.
I didn't install any new gimp-data package. I liked the non-free gim
Hi!
I just installed Debian 1.3 on my Toshiba Tecra 730CDT (this is a
"fresh" installation, separate from my 1.2 installation) and I can't
seem to get it to boot using loadlin. I used the 1997-06-20/tecra
rescue and modules disks, and both the rescue disk and the resulting
boot disk work fine, bu
When a new version of a program is released, is a copy compiled to bo and
another for hamm? .. or is bo left without any updates? The reason I ask
is I thinking of re-installing the bo distribution because I can barely
compile anything using hamm. -- probably libc6 releated, but it still
doesn't w
I have seen a number of posts and questions on the AMD K6 "bug".
To correct what I believe are some misconceptions, as well as to inform,
I looked for an answer:
A quick search on altavista revealed this page:
http://www.chorus.com/~poulot/k6bug_tests.html
and from my own bookmarks:
http://w
Just compilied 31, and had the following 2 warnings. I'm sure its nothing
but I thought I would post them here anyway for reference...
Matthew
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.31/include -Wall
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pi
If you are talking about the 32MB/Linux bug in AMD K6, it have been
fixed for more than 2 months. Just make sure that your is made of any
after week 30 this year.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have seen a number of posts and questions on the AMD K6 "bug".
>
> To correct what I believe are some
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I ftp'd the debian gimp package from the maintainer's site. I had to
> install a detailed list of upgrades to be sure it would work. I THINK I
> installed them all right(!?!).
>
> But, while The GIMP runs, it won't load any file.
Have you tried `rm -r ~/.gimp' to c
dpk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I recompiled a 2.0.29 kernel to replace the Debian 'stock' kernel because
> it is so large and it hangs for a long time loading the 'md driver'
Actually, it's probably what gets loaded *after* the md driver which
is taking the time. It might not even print anyth
Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> is anyone using qmail? is it any good?
Yes and yes.
> and how easy would it be to upgrade smail to qmail?
That depends on a few factors. If you treat it as installing from
scratch, it shouldn't be any trouble, but qmail does treat a few
things differe
"ITom - WebIroda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> I get a message which says: '/dev/hdd: media changed' which I didn't
> receive once with the other drive. Is this an error, or what?
I thought this was normal. It means the kernel's noticed you've got a
different CD-ROM in than last time i
Lazar Fleysher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What I can not do (and what the question is about) is run an X-Windows
> application off remote host on my second computer. I mean the following.
> If I telnet from my second computer to, say, my university account and run
> xclock off my university it
On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
> When a new version of a program is released, is a copy compiled to bo and
> another for hamm? .. or is bo left without any updates? The reason I ask
> is I thinking of re-installing the bo distribution because I can barely
> compile anything using hamm. -
Dave,
I can appreciate the fact that you don't like Bruce's handling of the
project. I do like the job that Bruce is doing, however. I'll stick
with Bruce until the normal time for succession comes, and probably even
after that.
But please, by all means continue with your plan to release an
On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, dc wrote:
> Enough is enough.
yes. enough is enough. go away and quit your whining. i, for one, am
getting really sick and tired of seeing your personal attacks against
bruce being splashed all over the debian lists.
what are you trying to do? destroy debian with your co
On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:
> Andrew J Tarr wrote:
> >
> > Struggling with my modem:
[SNIP]
> Is your modem set for fixed serial speed (AT&B1 on a sportster 28.8)?
>
No, it wasn't. Yes, it fixed it, thanks a lot. I don't suppose anyone
wants to explain why it needs fixed se
On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, George Bonser wrote:
>
> On 25-Oct-97 dc wrote:
> > Enough is enough.
>
> I disagree.
>
I too disagree. I think there are probably more people who disagree than
agree.
On the otherhand perhaps a distribution like Debian needs to have a
registered list of users who wants t
On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, dc wrote:
> > If Bruce really cares about the free and open future of the Debian Project,
> > he will
> > cede his position immediately. Much (private) discussion has gone on about
> > forming a new distribution based on how the old
On 26-Oct-97 Daniel J. Mashao wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, George Bonser wrote:
>
>>
>> On 25-Oct-97 dc wrote:
>> > Enough is enough.
>>
>> I disagree.
>>
>I too disagree. I think there are probably more people who disagree than
>agree.
Yeah, by ~20 to 1 so far. I'd felt disinclined to contri
Hi
When I start Netscape (v. 4.03) as root - no problems, when I do the same as an
ordinary user I get a segmentation fault. I compared the output from 'strace
/usr/local/netscape/netscape' the root started version links to
/usr/lib/libc5-compat/* where as the user started version links to mor
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Scott Ellis wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
>
> > When a new version of a program is released, is a copy compiled to bo and
> > another for hamm? .. or is bo left without any updates? The reason I ask
> > is I thinking of re-installing the bo distribution be
On Sat, Oct 25, 1997 at 06:33:51PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 24 Oct, Rob MacWilliams wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 1997 at 04:54:55PM -0500, Pete Harlan wrote:
> >>> > > Now my link seems to be slow - is there a possibility to watch the
> >>> > > throughput (like x.xx kb/s or sim.)?
> >>>
On a character-based login, there is an option to add users to specific
groups if they are local (audio, cdrom, floppy, etc).. I want to add this
function to xdm.. is there a command which will put users into a group
while he/she is logged on (not writing to /etc/group)?
-Paul
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Has anyone used 'autolog' (logs out idle users)? It seems to only warn
someone that the're going to logged out, but never actually does it! When
I ran it manually (autolog -d) I get segmentation fault (core dump) upon
the sleep 30 command... what can I do?
-Paul
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My bo box exports files in the expected way, but my hamm box does not.
Last week it would not export anything unless the client was listed using
its IP number. Now it accepts a hostname but has a problem with
wildcards. It will not export to a host by using a wildcard unless there
is a valid ex
Civ Kevin F. Havener wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I can appreciate the fact that you don't like Bruce's handling of the
> project. I do like the job that Bruce is doing, however. I'll stick
> with Bruce until the normal time for succession comes, and probably
> even after that.
>
> But please, by all
joost witteveen wrote:
>
> Being a Linux enthousiast, I also like to think that AIX has that
> additional field, because AIX actually does "wait for IO", i.e., while
> waiting for IO it doesn't do run any other jobs in the background.
It's the exact opposite: when a process is "waiting for IO" (f
Hi,
does anybody know when the website will be up again ?
Thanks
Markus Diesmann
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A server in my department has suddenly created (or altered) some files and
I cannot figure out how to remove them. Below is the a part of the
original note sent to me and I have tried various attempts to remove the
files as weel with no avail. I even went to the point of creating a user
with uid 28
Am I doing something wrong, or has the glimpse engine that one can use to
search the mailing-list archives never worked? I always get the following
error message:
Error:
can't open glimpse index-file lists/.glimpse_index (use -H to give an
index-directory or run 'glimpseindex' to make
an index)
Markus Diesmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> does anybody know when the website will be up again ?
Right now, I have no trouble with either the American or German
mirrors. Is it possibly a local problem?
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Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Senders of unsolic
Matt Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> with fvwm2 (i assume this is where the issue lies) when i try to drag a
> window across desktops, there is some very strange activity. the window
> i'm dragging flickers around a lot, and the pager doesn't show that it's
> moving until i let go.
Has anyone been able to setup idled so it'll kill a telnet user, but won't
kill the same user running xterm under X? (telnet and xterm both use
/dev/ttyp*)
I had an idea to exempt everyone in the 'console' group from idled.. --
the login program will add users to specific groups if they login loc
> I thought this was normal. It means the kernel's noticed you've got
> a different CD-ROM in than last time it looked.
OK Thanks.
> > interleaved files not (yet) supported'. I didn't have any problems
> > with the other drive with this Debian cd.
>
> The exact error message would help. Also,
On 26-Oct-97 Colin R. Telmer wrote:
> A server in my department has suddenly created (or altered) some files
> and
> I cannot figure out how to remove them. Below is the a part of the
> original note sent to me and I have tried various attempts to remove the
> files as weel with no avail. I even w
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:42:59 EST "Colin R. Telmer"
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Unmounted /home without any problems and ran e2fsck with the "check for
> > bad blocks" and "force" options. However, the disk seems to be fine.
> > Strange.
>
> Here are the key parts of the original note:
>
> T
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Philippe Troin wrote:
> > Looking more closely at /reevesj/.netscape/cache, one finds:
> >
> > br--r-srwx 1 2878729728 73, 60 May 21 2025 07
> >
> > Notice the date and the permissions! Whatever this is, I cannot remove
> > it, even using "rm -f", as root! I als
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Ted Harding wrote:
> Try (non-destructively) e2fsck -fnV on the device with these files
> and stand back ... (at any rate pipe it through "less"). I predict
> several thousand lines of possibly alarming information. Depending on what
> you see, you may judge that it's worth ta
Karsten Bolding wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> When I start Netscape (v. 4.03) as root - no problems, when I do the same as
> an ordinary user I get a segmentation fault. I compared the output from 's
> trace /usr/local/netscape/netscape' the root started version links to /usr/
> lib/libc5-compat/*
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
> > For the most part, everything is compiled only for hamm. Many (most?)
> > developers don't have access to machines for compiling libc5-based stuff
> > easily anymore, and bo is supposed to be frozen except for security and
> > severe bugfix releases.
>
Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Unmounted /home without any problems and ran e2fsck with the "check for
> > > bad blocks" and "force" options. However, the disk seems to be fine.
> > > Strange.
You might want to try the debugfs program. Perhaps it can unlink the
files.
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On Sat, Oct 25, 1997 at 11:35:21AM +0200, Wojtek Zabolotny spewed forth:
> Are you running alien from the RAW TEXT CONSOLE? (I mean: not an xterm nor
> Midnight Commander prompt)
> I got the same error running dpkg-gencontrol from debian "build", when I
> was recompiling debian sorce packages. The
Matt Thompson wrote:
> Well, it seems to me the returns are in. *Everyone* who responded to dc's
> comments supports Bruce, and wishes dc would make good on his promise and
> just leave.
>
> I propose that from here on out we ignore dc, don't resond to anything he
> posts, and perhaps he *will* l
I strongly disagreed with Bruce's decision regarding the
version/revision numbers. This is my PERSONAL OPINION; clearly many
others, including Bruce, agree with his decision. This difference of
opinion in no way justifies removing Bruce as president. (I don't
believe "project leader" is an
On 26-Oct-97 Colin R. Telmer wrote:
>
> I have done a e2fsck -fnv but it also did not reveal any problems (output
> below). However, it did reveal the existence of 27 block device files
> that
> I assume have no reason to be under /home. I'm at a loss - any other
> suggestions? Thanks, Colin.
>
As dc posted to debian-dissent, he intends to make his own distribution.
He changed the topic of debian-dissent to reflect this decision.
He also removed dissenters from the list.
So I think we can consider the topic "dc" as done with, and return to
all-day-work.
Thank you,
Marcus Brinkmann
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All:
IMHO Bruce is doing a fine job. It will be difficult to replace him,
particularly so after the acrimony.
David
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Christopher Jason Morrone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm trying to install net-fu, and it seems that I am missing Xvfb. Anyone
> know what package it comes in?
Strange, I found the manual page xbase but no binary.
Torsten
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On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Scott Ellis wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
>
> > When a new version of a program is released, is a copy compiled to bo and
> > another for hamm? .. or is bo left without any updates? The reason I ask
> > is I thinking of re-installing the bo distribution be
On 26 Oct 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > Unmounted /home without any problems and ran e2fsck with the "check for
> > > > bad blocks" and "force" options. However, the disk seems to be fine.
> > > > Strange.
>
> You might want to try the debugfs program
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Scott Ellis wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Paul Miller wrote:
>
> > > For the most part, everything is compiled only for hamm. Many (most?)
> > > developers don't have access to machines for compiling libc5-based stuff
> > > easily anymore, and bo is supposed to be frozen exc
> > Are you running alien from the RAW TEXT CONSOLE? (I mean: not an xterm nor
> > Midnight Commander prompt)
> > I got the same error running dpkg-gencontrol from debian "build", when I
> > was recompiling debian sorce packages. The reason was that I was running
> > build from xterm or Midnight Co
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thalia L. Hooker) wrote
> Anyways, my next step was to 'make zImage'. I kept getting Sig 11 errors
> though not at the same point of compilation:
> gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
...
> After reading the FAQ, it seemed that my problems were typical
Is there any specific version of compile I need to use? Currently I'm
using these programs: (all part of Debian hamm distribution)
Qt 1.31 (not part of Debian hamm distribution)
gcc 2.7.2.3
c++ 2.7.2.3
make 3.76.1
libc6-dev
What on earth is wrong with my piece of shit system? Here are a few
exa
I've been using Applixware under Debian for several months.
>
>
> I, too, am interested in the compatability especially when it comes to power
> point and word.
>
There have only been a few times I've tried reading MS Word files, it worked
once, failed
once. I've output RTF files that were som
On Sun, Oct 26, 1997 at 02:36:12PM -0600, Frank Sergeant wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thalia L. Hooker) wrote
>
> I seem to have (nearly) the same problem on my AMD K90 system,
> except the error I usually get is "segmentation fault". Again, it
> happens at random places during a kernel compi
are there any special methods I should use to install applixware 4.2 on my
Debian system?
-Paul
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Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> errors with the 'kdenetwork' package
>
> c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/local/kde/include
> -I/usr/local/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -g -c kmreaderwin.cpp
> kmreaderwin.cpp: In method `bool KMReaderView::saveMail()':
> kmreaderwin.cpp:504: `e
> are there any special methods I should use to install applixware 4.2 on my
> Debian system?
The way I've found best is to go into the /cdrom/RPMS/i386 directory and
convert the appropriate .rpm files into .deb files with alien. Make sure
you have the latest alien and the latest dpkg-dev though
Take heed people. This is what happens if you dare challenge the leadership of
the
Debian project.
Personal attacks, compliants to your service provider, banishment from the
project. They will gang-up on you and drive you away. You all should be
ashamed of yourselves.
If you are new to De
Hello!
Recently I changed from S.U.S.E 4.4 to Debian 1.3.1. I think it was a
good decision but I have one problem.
If there are java-applets or java-scripts which are sent to my PC
netscape hangs or dies while running them. With my old
Linux-distribution all works fine. I have the same kernel (ke
Hi all,
With deselect, I have the Access with ftp with right directory and all then I
pick update which download new packages files from dists/unstable/main,
non-free, and contrib like the way it should. But when I do Install I get this
messages:
Processing status file...
Processing Package files.
First off, I am not a developer of Debian packages and thus do not know
how Bruce Perens manages the distribution. But basically I have two
comments.
1. To DC, your first mistake was to post your request to all of the
debian lists. The problem with this is that this is a developers' issue,
not
On 26 Oct 1997, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Paul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Add `#include ' to the top of the offending files. This is a
> common libc5->libc6 conversion thing.
>
> Don't know about the others, offhand.
Thanks! That helped with that package..
Is there a reference of libc5 =
Hello Dave!
Actually, you sent this message to me personally, so I think you want to
address me. This is why I answer.
On Sun, Oct 26, 1997 at 05:48:10PM -0500, Dave Cinege wrote:
>
> Take heed people. This is what happens if you dare challenge the leadership
> of the
> Debian project.
>
> P
because you are using K6, make sure that it is made after week 30. K6
before week 30 will trigger a bug where people cannot compile Linux
kernel if there are more than 32MB in their computer. It only happens
to Linux world and in fact the bug is uncovered by Linux guys.
Frank Sergeant wrote:
>
On Sun, Oct 26, 1997 at 12:25:56PM -1000, Jimen Ching wrote:
>
> 2. To the users, it's so pitiful that users of a distribution is so
> quick to kick out a DEVELOPER just because he disagrees with the leader.
Please notice that Dave Cinege is NOT a debian developer. He does not
maintain a package
two people throwing with mug to each other, but one of them complains
about the other throwing mug. please be quiet david.
i'm not a member of the bruce fan club, and i'm not as blind as some
other developers, but this time bruce is right. stop flameing him, stop
your mini revolution.
we will ha
if you are friendly, we threat you friendly.
if you are unfriendly, we might threat you unfriendly
(but we try at least to be friendly).
if you are unfriendly, are threated unfriendly, and complain about being
threated unfrienly in an unfriendly tone, you are annoying.
we have bett
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:25:56 -1000 (HST), Jimen Ching wrote:
>First off, I am not a developer of Debian packages and thus do not know
>how Bruce Perens manages the distribution. But basically I have two
>comments.
>
>1. To DC, your first mistake was to post your request to all of the
>debian li
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997 23:54:15 +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>On Sun, Oct 26, 1997 at 12:25:56PM -1000, Jimen Ching wrote:
>>
>> 2. To the users, it's so pitiful that users of a distribution is so
>> quick to kick out a DEVELOPER just because he disagrees with the leader.
>
>Please notice that Dav
Matthew Tebbens wrote:
>
> Can someone recommend a good motherboard for use with SMP Linux ?
>
> I was looking at the DK440LX by Intel for use with dual pII 300's,
> it comes with an onboard Adaptec 7895 Dual Channel SCSI controller with
> RAIDport... not sure if Linux supports that controller.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Miller) writes:
> After making a new kernel (using make-kpkg and so on, as
> specified in /usr/doc/kernel-source-/debian.README), you
> will have to make a new set of pcmcia modules. Instructions are
> in /usr/doc/pcmcia-source/README. If you make both the kernel
> and th
On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Dave Cinege wrote:
> If you are new to Debian, please don't make the mistake I made. This is a
> closed
> software project, where you are allowed to contribute only if you surcome to
> the
> personal agenda of the current leadership. This is the structure and model of
> t
David Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> With deselect, I have the Access with ftp with right directory and all then I
> pick update which download new packages files from dists/unstable/main,
> non-free, and contrib like the way it should. But when I do Install I get this
> messages:
> Processi
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