On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 07:25:15PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:43:34AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:00:35PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On 07/03/
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 08:43:34AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:00:35PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > >
> > > >Dom0: local file server
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:01:40PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:35:14PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> > So I maintain that its good to keep our local fire server isolated by
> > operating the DMZ in a xen vm. But I will agree that its not necessary
> >
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 10:00:35PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> > >Dom0: local file server (video, music, local backups)
> > >
> > > DomU1: firewall
> >
> > I understa
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:09:02PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/03/07 20:53, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> >On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>>Dom0: local file server (video, music, local backups)
> >>>
>
On 07/03/07 20:53, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
Dom0: local file server (video, music, local backups)
DomU1: firewall
I understand the need for a small, "separate" firewall.
Dom
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 05:35:14PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> So I maintain that its good to keep our local fire server isolated by
> operating the DMZ in a xen vm. But I will agree that its not necessary
> to run seperate DomU's for mail and apache. And with multiple vm's
> running th
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> >Dom0: local file server (video, music, local backups)
> >
> > DomU1: firewall
>
> I understand the need for a small, "separate" firewall.
>
Does this really give any more secu
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >
> >Dom0: local file server (video, music, local backups)
> >
> > DomU1: firewall
>
> I understand the need for a small, "separate" firewall.
>
> > DomU2: dmz mail/imaps serve
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 06:22:46PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:46:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>On 07/02/07 15:06, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>>my home server here runs etch with xen and 3 vm's (at the moment).
On 07/03/07 13:25, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:46:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
On 07/02/07 15:06, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 02:11:18PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
its almost boring...
May be true
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 01:25:07PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Its memory-bound and I don't any spare...
> ^
> have
gah. how many times did I read that! I am a victim of my own brain.
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Its memory-bound and I don't any spare...
^
have
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On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 09:46:06PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 07/02/07 15:06, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 02:11:18PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> >>Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> >>
> >>>its almost boring...
> >>>
> >>May be true for stable; Neverthless Sid
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 07:06:48PM -0700, David Fox wrote:
> >right now, the single most exciting thing that happens (other than the
> >very rare package updates) is a nightly problem with my mail
> >server. Its memory-bound and I don't any spare sticks lying around at
>
>
> Is that why there is
On 07/02/07 15:06, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 02:11:18PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
its almost boring...
May be true for stable; Neverthless Sid makes it all interesting!
my home server here runs etch with xen and 3 vm's (at t
right now, the single most exciting thing that happens (other than the
very rare package updates) is a nightly problem with my mail
server. Its memory-bound and I don't any spare sticks lying around at
Is that why there is a missing word? After all it's only 4 bytes and you
might need it for st
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 02:11:18PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> >
> > its almost boring...
> >
> May be true for stable; Neverthless Sid makes it all interesting!
my home server here runs etch with xen and 3 vm's (at the moment). I
find myself looking f
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> its almost boring...
>
May be true for stable; Neverthless Sid makes it all interesting!
raju
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On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 02:17:55PM -0500, will trillich wrote:
> typical debian server--
>
> i logged in, connected to an old, neglected SCREEN session, and this
> was still on the screen:
>
> # uptime
> 20:30:17 up 15 days, 6:11, 2 users, load average: 0.76, 0.24, 0.08
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/et
typical debian server--
i logged in, connected to an old, neglected SCREEN session, and this
was still on the screen:
# uptime
20:30:17 up 15 days, 6:11, 2 users, load average: 0.76, 0.24, 0.08
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc
Fri Jan 05 20:30:17
and then just for symmetry i added:
# uptime
15:
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 05:25:09PM +0930, Tom Cook wrote:
> On 0, Ralf Arens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
> > Sorry, no emacs here. ;-)
> >
> > But if you usually use emacs, you could switch to it entirely -- use VM
> > or Gnus as mail clients.
>
> I heard tell of a mutt major mode for em
On 0, Ralf Arens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> Sorry, no emacs here. ;-)
>
> But if you usually use emacs, you could switch to it entirely -- use VM
> or Gnus as mail clients.
I heard tell of a mutt major mode for emacs. Is that true?
Tom
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-26 13:20]:
> A couple of months ago I ditched GUI mail programs for ever. I'm now a
> happy mutt user. Now I'm looking for A) a calendar program
plan, but it is an GUI program.
> B) an address book, that are as non graphical,
For mutt I recommend
- abook, an ad
"m2" == m2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
m2> A couple of months ago I ditched GUI mail programs for
m2> ever. I'm now a happy mutt user. Now I'm looking for A) a
m2> calendar program B) an address book, that are as non
m2> graphical, stable and as versatile as mutt. Anything tha
On Friday 26 April 2002 06:18 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> happy mutt user. Now I'm looking for A) a calendar program B) an
> address book, that are as non graphical, stable and as versatile as
> mutt. Anything that works with emacs gets a plus.
There is a pretty decent calendar in Xemacs. I i
On Fri, Apr 26, 2002 at 01:18:50PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> A couple of months ago I ditched GUI mail programs for ever. I'm now a
> happy mutt user. Now I'm looking for A) a calendar program B) an
> address book, that are as non graphical, stable and as versatile as
> mutt. Anything th
A couple of months ago I ditched GUI mail programs for ever. I'm now a
happy mutt user. Now I'm looking for A) a calendar program B) an
address book, that are as non graphical, stable and as versatile as
mutt. Anything that works with emacs gets a plus.
op
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Here's a solution to the netscape bus error problems:
http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html
I had _all_ the problems several people on the debian-user
list mentioned last month. I'm trying to follow the latest
potato releases. Even got communicator 4.7 installed from
there - it's not
I use communicator 4.5 here with the latest glibc from unstable. It's
a multi-user machine. It very often goes into an infinite loop eating
all possible cpu. The only way to control netscrape is to set a time
limit of 3min on it...
I'll give you credit for chasing this thing!
I've got only one further contribution:
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 23:40, Daniel Barclay wrote:
[snip!]
> Oh yeah, another thing: In non-Java 90% CPU mode, I could quit,
> but the netscape process would keep running, using 90% CPU.
> I didn't seem to be
> From: Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote:
...
> > Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other
> > than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know):
...
> > D
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, jack wrote:
> It crashes Netscape (Navigator) on my machine. There's nothing to
> protect. Everybody knows netscape sucks for now.
> However, fact is fact.
Haven't had netscape trouble under Linux yet (I don't use it much), but on
an IRIX 6.4 system it dumps core the insta
> > > Please check this one for me (I don't see how this can be anything other
> > > than a Netscape bug, but if it is something else, I'd like to know):
> > >
> > > On any Unix (X11) version of Communicator:
> > Alas, I use only Navigator, not the whole Communicator package.
> > > - - open the boo
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 12:13:01AM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> I use Communicator, not just Navigator; perhaps that's the clue.
> The test that Daniel suggested crashed my Netscape. I've tried
> running with and without Java/Javascript. I can expect Netscape
> to crash at least once every time I sit
Pann McCuaig wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> > You might not be using Netscape extensively enough to trigger the bugs.
> >
> > Maybe usage pattern differences are something to explore.
> >
> > Do you (and others):
> > - - have Java enabled?
> Yup.
> > - - have Jav
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On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote:
[[[snip]]]
> > - - open a lot of windows using "open in new window" (middle mouse button)?
> Nope.
>
[[[snip]]]
>
> How many Netscape windows is it useful to have o
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 16:17, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> You might not be using Netscape extensively enough to trigger the bugs.
>
> Maybe usage pattern differences are something to explore.
>
> Do you (and others):
> - - have Java enabled?
Yup.
> - - have Javascript enabled?
Yup.
> - - typically
> From: Pann McCuaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> >
> > No, no, no. Netscape can be just as horribly unstable on glibc 2.0
> > systems. I know. I suffer from it every day.
>
> I hate to rain on your parade, but LOTS of people run Netscape 4
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 11:17:00PM -0600, Art Lemasters wrote:
> If you want to install Communicator 4.7, do it by installing
> the packages via dselect (or apt). Before you start it in any
> account on your machine, though, mv your bookmarks, rm -r
> /home/yourusername/.netscape, and reinst
Brad wrote:
>
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> On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Pann McCuaig wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >if you are running a system
> > > > with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't
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On Fri, 22 Oct 1999, Pann McCuaig wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote:
> >
> > > From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >if you are running a system
> > > with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't have any problems with
> > > net
If you want to install Communicator 4.7, do it by installing
the packages via dselect (or apt). Before you start it in any
account on your machine, though, mv your bookmarks, rm -r
/home/yourusername/.netscape, and reinstall your bookmarks.html.
Maybe that will help. I run Netscape 4.7 (in
Hmmm, it still cant browse a download dir without losing the downloads name
seem to suffer from memory loss , forgets the default
download dir
and sometimes a news server dissapears from the list only to
reappear on subsequent
openings.
Fo
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 21:28, Daniel Barclay wrote:
>
>
> > From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> >if you are running a system
> > with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't have any problems with
> > netscape.
>
> No, no, no. Netscape can be just as horribly unstable on glibc 2.0
> From: Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>if you are running a system
> with libc5 or glibc 2.0 you are fine and won't have any problems with
> netscape.
No, no, no. Netscape can be just as horribly unstable on glibc 2.0
systems. I know. I suffer from it every day.
Daniel
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Does it fix ... The Java that
> crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if
> you don't close windows in the correct order, etc.
Not as far as I can tell. (Well, I'm not sure I've seen DNS lookup
lockups, but I've seen plenty of lockup
Keith Harbaugh wrote:
> Just thought it might be worthwhile to document a little more precisely
> some experiences with Netscape 4.7 [not 4.71, as John later corrected].
>
> The following command, or its ftp equivalent, fetches the file in question:
>
> wget
> ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communi
On Tue, 1999-10-12 at 17:50:14 -0500, John Foster wrote:
> I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux
> server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer
> from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH
> faster and more stable that
On Tue, 1999-10-12 at 17:50:14 -0500, John Foster wrote:
> I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux
> server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer
> from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH
> faster and more stable that
It is noticeably faster in my experience too.
Curt Daugaard
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> It does :-) But nothing prevents you from using the libc5 version of
> netscape under potato (which is what I do)
what i do as well, just download the libc5 version and use the netscape4
installer.
> I wouldn't call it rock solid, but it's useable and only crashes two or
&
e to potato. netscapes glibc 2.1 code sucks hard.
It does :-) But nothing prevents you from using the libc5 version of netscape
under potato (which is what I do)
I wouldn't call it rock solid, but it's useable and only crashes two or
three times a week (I usually leave it open with 6 or
Same here, also had a big headache with it when i changed my user password and
tried
to change my pop password on my local machine netscape kept bombing out, when i
entered my password.
It doesnt seem to be able to remember news settings at times ive had news
servers
dissapear and then only to re
Adam Shand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> well it sucks a lot harder with glibc 2.1, it's basically not usable. i've
> had no major problems with libc5 or glibc 2.0 versions though i would love
> to have a smaller/faster/more stable browser.
Netscape 4.7x (whatever version is in debian unstable) w
> Netscape fine with glibc2.0? Not. It has been crashing on me since day
> one and has only gotten worse with newer versions whether libc5 or
> glibc2.0
well it sucks a lot harder with glibc 2.1, it's basically not usable. i've
had no major problems with libc5 or glibc 2.0 versions though i woul
On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Adam Shand wrote:
>
> > i don't care if an app crashes, as long as it doesn't take anything else
> > down with it. NT does it to me all thje time..doing normal things then
> > BAM! thats the kinda crash that REALLY pisses me off.
>
> upgrade to glibc 2.1 and you will care.
> i don't care if an app crashes, as long as it doesn't take anything else
> down with it. NT does it to me all thje time..doing normal things then
> BAM! thats the kinda crash that REALLY pisses me off.
upgrade to glibc 2.1 and you will care. it gets really bad. just to
reiterate. there is n
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux
> >server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer
> >from Debian if you rename it to the proper c
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
John Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux
>server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer
>from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH
>faster and more s
i have no complaints about netscape either. Sure it can crash..lockup.
But it has never..once.. brought down the system. never brought down X
either.
i don't care if an app crashes, as long as it doesn't take anything else
down with it. NT does it to me all thje time..doing normal things then
BAM
> I am using A stable Debian Slink production system. Netscape version
> 4.71 glibc2.0 from ftp.netscape.com.
okay that makes sense then. i suggest that if you like that version of
netscape you don't upgrade to potato. netscapes glibc 2.1 code sucks hard.
adam.
Intern
Adam Shand wrote:
> are you running glibc2.1? which version of netscape is it? libc5 or glibc?
>
> i tried to install the glibc 4.7 netscape using the netscape4 installer and
> started getting netscape crashes again on authentication and window closes
> so i reverted back to libc5.
>
> adam.
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> Does it fix the problems that make me hate Netscape so? The Java that
> crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if
> you don't close windows in the correct order, etc.
>
> --Ian Ehrenwald
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On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 08:17:25PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
> Its been a while since I've used the debs. I install netscape into
> /usr/local and get the same annoyances that Ian complains of. Maybe the
> netscape installer fixes things. Who knows?
...could be. I installed 4.61 with the deb
Ben Lutgens wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 07:13:31PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Does it fix the problems that make me hate Netscape so? The Java that
> > crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if
> > you don't close windows in the correct order, etc.
> I am using the latest .deb packages (4.7) and I _never_ have any of these
> things happens. Perhaps your problems lie elsewhere. No offense
I dunno. Ever since I started using Netscape 4.0x and everything later it
always would exhibit those problems on certain sites. I know others have
these p
On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 07:13:31PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Does it fix the problems that make me hate Netscape so? The Java that
> crashes/freezes NS, the DNS lookups that freeze NS, the random crashes if
> you don't close windows in the correct order, etc.
>
I am using the latest .deb p
> I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux
> server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer
> from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH
> faster and more stable that all of the previous versions I have used.
are you runni
> I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux
> server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer
> from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH
> faster and more stable that all of the previous versions I have used.
Does it fix th
I just installed the new Netscape 4.71 version on my Debian Linux
server. Just a report- It installs nicely with the Netscape4 installer
from Debian if you rename it to the proper convention. It seems MUCH
faster and more stable that all of the previous versions I have used.
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onfig files on the net, but I
> could not arrive at one that worked flicker-free on my 800x600
> dual scan screen. Light grays would have wavy lines, etc.
>
> SO, I have pieced together one that works rock solid, but I am
> not sure how to tell if the setting will damage my
that works rock solid, but I am
not sure how to tell if the setting will damage my video card
or display. The IBM 560 Technical Reference does not mention any
frequency specs for the LCD, only external monitor usage.
So, I started playing around. One "modeline" setting I tried
was fl
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