Re: Slightly off topic--Wifi capable convenience outlet

2025-01-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
Thanks to Rafal I did find the Tapo line (from TP-Link) that uses WiFi and can be scheduled through the Tapo app which will do for now. I bought some of the P125M and P400M models. The P125M is an indoor unit and the P400M is for outdoor use and features two NEMA 5-15R outlets. Both models suppor

Re: Slightly off topic--Wifi capable convenience outlet

2025-01-13 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 11:43:04 -0600 Nate Bargmann wrote: > As part of the scripting I plan is to monitor the local temperature > from my weather station and adjust accordingly in ways such as the > time to power the heater or even whether to turn it off should a > temperature rise occur through th

Re: Slightly off topic--Wifi capable convenience outlet

2025-01-13 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2025 13 Jan 04:07 -0600, Rafał Lichwała wrote: > If I understood you correctly, the key problem here is "being exposed to > outdoor". > > I think you may search for "outdoor wifi plug": > > https://www.amazon.com/outdoor-smart-plug/s?k=outdoor+smart+plug Thank you. Coming up with the right

Re: Slightly off topic--Wifi capable convenience outlet

2025-01-13 Thread Rafał Lichwała
If I understood you correctly, the key problem here is "being exposed to outdoor". I think you may search for "outdoor wifi plug": https://www.amazon.com/outdoor-smart-plug/s?k=outdoor+smart+plug Also, I think there is nothing wrong with that the given solution is proprietary. The only downsi

Re: Slightly off topic--Wifi capable convenience outlet

2025-01-12 Thread jeremy ardley
On 13/1/25 05:49, Nate Bargmann wrote: As the knowledge base on this list is wide and deep, I am asking to cut through the commercial clutter. Ideally, what I would like to find is a WiFi (802.11a/b/g) capable device that would plug into the end of an extension cord (common US NEMA 5-15 recept

Re: Slightly off topic--Wifi capable convenience outlet

2025-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 4:50 PM Nate Bargmann wrote: > > As the knowledge base on this list is wide and deep, I am asking to cut > through the commercial clutter. Ideally, what I would like to find is a > WiFi (802.11a/b/g) capable device that would plug into the end of an > extension cord (commo

Slightly off topic--Wifi capable convenience outlet

2025-01-12 Thread Nate Bargmann
Hi All. As the knowledge base on this list is wide and deep, I am asking to cut through the commercial clutter. Ideally, what I would like to find is a WiFi (802.11a/b/g) capable device that would plug into the end of an extension cord (common US NEMA 5-15 receptacle/plug) and allow me to activat

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-09 Thread Phil
And if anyone thinks for one millisecond that it actually removes it . . . . On 9/11/24 18:55, George at Clug wrote: If anyone remembers the original question... Today I checked our Windows 10 and Windows 11 computers and in Settings, Apps, Apps & Features, I was able to select "Copilot" an

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-09 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Thanks George I was half expecting that On 9 November 2024 6:55:39 pm AEDT, George at Clug wrote: >If anyone remembers the original question... > >Today I checked our Windows 10 and Windows 11 computers and in Settings, Apps, >Apps & Features, I was able to select "Copilot" and then select Uni

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-08 Thread George at Clug
If anyone remembers the original question... Today I checked our Windows 10 and Windows 11 computers and in Settings, Apps, Apps & Features, I was able to select "Copilot" and then select Uninstall. That simple. George. On Wednesday, 06-11-2024 at 20:25 Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Good evening

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Thu, Nov 07, 2024 at 09:38:25AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > I'm pretty sure: > > a) Andy lives on an island generally considered part of Europe > b) you are sufficiently dedicated to being off topic that I'm > putting you in the killfile now. Please do not feed the tr

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
mindaugascelies...@gmail.com wrote: Enough. The initial question didn't belong on this list in the first place, and you're making things worse. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, Tongue-tied & twisted, J

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Dan Ritter
ice. I'm pretty sure: a) Andy lives on an island generally considered part of Europe b) you are sufficiently dedicated to being off topic that I'm putting you in the killfile now. -dsr-

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Mindaugas
prescribe for you. On 11/7/24 08:09, Andy Smith wrote: such as your therapist's office. I'm pretty sure: a) Andy lives on an island generally considered part of Europe b) you are sufficiently dedicated to being off topic that I'm putting you in the killfile now. -dsr-

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 9:42 AM Mindaugas wrote: > > Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are > very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe > for you. Lol... So true. Jeff

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-07 Thread Mindaugas
Yes, yes. After all, you yankee imperialists with world savior syndrome are very fond of going to psychotherapists and taking the drugs they prescribe for you. On 11/7/24 08:09, Andy Smith wrote: such as your therapist's office.

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 06:47:53PM +0200, Mindaugas wrote: > all distributions use the Linux kernel. And Linux, which everyone has > heard about, with the character of a dictator, communicates (and very > actively) with the US special services). So, it is not clear what is > in that kernel. An

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 06:40:15PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/6/24 8:47 AM, Mindaugas wrote: > > That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't > > use systemd. > > Devuan, for one. You don't read, all of you. I'm "on" Debian bookworm, aka stable, aka 12.7 and no s

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 11/6/24 8:47 AM, Mindaugas wrote: That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't use systemd. Devuan, for one. Marc

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 06:47:53PM +0200, Mindaugas wrote: > That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't use > systemd. But all distributions use the Linux kernel. And Linux, which > everyone has heard about, with the character of a dictator, communicates > (and very acti

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Bret Busby
On 6/11/24 19:31, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Wed Nov 6, 2024 at 9:25 AM GMT, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Subject: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot? There's degrees of "off-topic", sometimes people discuss something they feel may not be entirely on-topic but it&#

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Mindaugas
That's right, there are Linux distributions (not that many) that don't use systemd. But all distributions use the Linux kernel. And Linux, which everyone has heard about, with the character of a dictator, communicates (and very actively) with the US special services). So, it is not clear what i

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Mindaugas
TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot? There's degrees of "off-topic", sometimes people discuss something they feel may not be entirely on-topic but it's on the fringes, but I think this issue is really not suitable for this list. Actually, the question is kind of on-top

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread tomas
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 03:06:36PM +0200, Mindaugas wrote: > Better yet, ditch Linux altogether and switch to FreeBSD, which has no > systemd, Linux kernel (which is becoming more and more Windows-like) Nothing against FreeBSD, but my Linux hasn't systemd either (says someone who just tried to deb

Re: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Nov 6, 2024 at 9:25 AM GMT, Keith Bainbridge wrote: > Subject: OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot? There's degrees of "off-topic", sometimes people discuss something they feel may not be entirely on-topic but it's on the fringes, but I think this issue

OFF TOPIC How can I help a friend remove coPilot?

2024-11-06 Thread Keith Bainbridge
Good evening All I know some of you work in a corporate environment, so have possibly had to deal with removing it. The most promising hint I have found is Copy and paste in the command below and press enter: reg add HKCU\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot /v TurnOffWindowsC

Re: Maybe off topic: Where is bash gesture ${X=Y} described ?

2024-07-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 24/07/2024 20:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: Everyone skips over the sentence that begins with "Omitting the colon". Every time we try to tell Chet, "Hey, man, please add examples that show BOTH syntaxes", he blows us off, because this is the way POSIX documents it. If it's good enough for POSIX,

Re: Maybe off topic: Where is bash gesture ${X=Y} described ?

2024-07-24 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 09:50:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > Everyone skips over the sentence that begins with "Omitting the colon". Thanks for this one. I know /I/ did for long enough. Greg, this place would be a lot less helpful... > Every time we try to tell Chet, "Hey, man, pleas

Re: Maybe off topic: Where is bash gesture ${X=Y} described ?

2024-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > maybe i am just too dumb to read the manual, or maybe i made an > > archeological discovery in the shells we use. Greg Wooledge wrote: > Everyone skips over the sentence that begins with "Omitting the colon". Oh well. Too dumb and not alone. I did read the sentence immediately

Re: Maybe off topic: Where is bash gesture ${X=Y} described ?

2024-07-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 15:33:11 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > GRUB's test scripts often show this gesture > > : "${TMPDIR=/tmp}" > > Well known and described is > ${X:=Y} > which assigns a default value to variable X if it is empty (man bash > says: "If [...] unset or null"). > Also known a

Maybe off topic: Where is bash gesture ${X=Y} described ?

2024-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, maybe i am just too dumb to read the manual, or maybe i made an archeological discovery in the shells we use. I came to a strange shell gesture which i find neither in man bash nor man dash. Nevertheless it works the same in both shells. GRUB's test scripts often show this gesture : "${TM

Re: [off topic] High Sierra, was: Cindex

2024-05-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 May 2024 at 21:52:05 (+0100), Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 12 May 2024 22:27:58 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > > >Hah ! Do they think that ISO 9660 is dead enough so they can highjack > >its birth name ? > > Happens all the time (just saying - not condoning); > > Solid State Drive - r

Re: [off topic] High Sierra, was: Cindex

2024-05-12 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 12 May 2024 22:27:58 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: Hello Thomas, >Hah ! Do they think that ISO 9660 is dead enough so they can highjack >its birth name ? Happens all the time (just saying - not condoning); Solid State Drive - referring to HDs without moving parts. BITD, Solid State re

[off topic] High Sierra, was: Cindex

2024-05-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brad Rogers quoted: > macOS 10.13 (High Sierra) Hah ! Do they think that ISO 9660 is dead enough so they can highjack its birth name ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 "ISO 9660 traces its roots to the High Sierra Format, [...] In November 1985, representatives of computer h

off-topic spamassassin issue

2024-02-18 Thread Byunghee HWANG
Hellow Debian Hackers, This email[0]. The submitter use reportbug(1) program of Debian. And it seems that submitter use `reportbug.debian.org' as relay SMTP. And the contents are good i think. By the way, SpamAssassin did mark as SPAM (X-Spam-Flag: YES). What do you guys think about this issue?

[outrageously off-topic] All those Thomas [was: cronitor.io for monitoring cron jobs]

2023-09-11 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 05:08:04PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 06:49:00PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 05:31:45PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > and we're all twins [1] ;-) > > > > [1] h

Re: off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread gene heskett
On 12/26/22 08:44, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 08:15:55AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Hi Gene :) debian bullseye, on a i5 machine, uptodate a/o yesterday. trying to build marlin for a newer board in a 3d printer, static blew the Robin Nano 1.2 board that d

Re: off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 26.12.2022 18:15, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; ... One path involves Visual Studio which does not seem to be available for debian, so it appears the platformio path is the one to follow. But step by step instructions are pretty slim. Can anyone help get me started? I don't have any

Re: off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 08:15:55AM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > Hi Gene :) > debian bullseye, on a i5 machine, uptodate a/o yesterday. > trying to build marlin for a newer board in a 3d printer, static blew the > Robin Nano 1.2 board that drove a two trees sapphire 5 plus. The

off topic, has anyone here built marlin from src?

2022-12-26 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; debian bullseye, on a i5 machine, uptodate a/o yesterday. trying to build marlin for a newer board in a 3d printer, static blew the Robin Nano 1.2 board that drove a two trees sapphire 5 plus. The blown board has been replaced with a newer Robin Nano 3.1 board, with TMC2209 mot

Re: off topic-cura question

2022-02-05 Thread Peter Hillier-Brook
On 05/02/2022 12:13, gene heskett wrote: Greetings all; Does anyone have an address that willl actually get to the Ultimaker-cura developers? I have a wish, bug to report. Thanks all, pm's ok. Cheers, Gene Heskett. Might this be a good place to start?: https://support.ultimaker.com/hc/en-us

off topic-cura question

2022-02-05 Thread gene heskett
Greetings all; Does anyone have an address that willl actually get to the Ultimaker-cura developers? I have a wish, bug to report. Thanks all, pm's ok. Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread Terence
Many thanks - now it's back to normal! (whatever that is in these Covid days!) On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 12:17, piorunz wrote: > On 29/11/2021 12:02, Terence wrote: > > Many thanks, Piotr, that's done it. Since the early 1990s I have always > > been impressed by the support given on the Debian lis

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread piorunz
On 29/11/2021 12:02, Terence wrote: Many thanks, Piotr, that's done it. Since the early 1990s I have always been impressed by the support given on the Debian lists - wonderful! You are most welcome! Now as you have working firefox, you can import everything from old profile if you are using Mo

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread Terence
Many thanks, Piotr, that's done it. Since the early 1990s I have always been impressed by the support given on the Debian lists - wonderful! On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 at 11:03, piorunz wrote: > Please try new profile. > > firefox-esr -P > > is the command to run. Usually everything works on clean, ne

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread piorunz
Please try new profile. firefox-esr -P is the command to run. Usually everything works on clean, new profile. When you confirm that, you can concentrate to restore your old profile to working order. On 29/11/2021 09:43, Terence wrote: Thank you, all. I'm not running NoScript but thank you for

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-29 Thread Terence
Thank you, all. I'm not running NoScript but thank you for the suggestion. It does seem strange as I'v e used it for years with no problem. On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 19:31, Hans wrote: > Am Sonntag, 28. November 2021, 20:22:25 CET schrieb > harrywea...@tutanota.com: > > Running debian/stable, amd6

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Hans
Am Sonntag, 28. November 2021, 20:22:25 CET schrieb harrywea...@tutanota.com: Running debian/stable, amd64, fully updated. No problems here. Just a guess: Are you running NoScript plugin im Firefox? Maybe it is not trusted. Have fun! Hans > > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as nor

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Nicolas George
Terence (12021-11-28): > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no > search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. > > Has anyone else the same problem/ I do not know if it is related, but I have observed problems of parts of some pages not displaying, or displayi

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread harryweaver
-- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox. 29 Nov 2021, 02:22 by terence.j...@gmail.com: > Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search > result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. > > Has anyone else the same problem/ > > No problem here, on SI

Re: Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/11/2021 à 17:22, Terence a écrit : Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. Has anyone else the same problem/ Works for me (but I do not use the firefox package, I use the upstream software)

Off Topic: Firefox and Duckduckgo Failure

2021-11-28 Thread Terence
Duckduckgo shows its search page in Firefox as normal, but returns no search result. It works fine in Chromium as usual. Has anyone else the same problem/

[Off topic] Linux lynxes. was: Re: question from total newbie.

2021-10-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I've been installing debian since sarge and remember > no lynx code word attached to any debian version. There was an Ubuntu release named Lucid Lynx, 11 years ago. (My bet is that it won't run on a contemporary laptop.) Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Andy Smith
d have doubts about. One of the common defences of the abundance of off-topic posting here is that with proper use of a mail client they are easy to ignore. I would also suggest that with proper use of a mail client one can set followups to another place, i.e. the off-topic place. In such a way,

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 9:04 a.m., Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 07:23 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> I've been subscribed to this list for a long time and I've seen a >> change in how it is being used, which I think is harmful to its core >> purpose > > 100% agree. I'm another long tim

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 07:23 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I've been subscribed to this list for a long time and I've seen a > change in how it is being used, which I think is harmful to its core > purpose 100% agree. I'm another long time subscriber here and this is just bonkers lately. The n

Re: Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list ...]

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 4:34 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 04:27:08AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >> >> >> On 2021-08-19 2:18 a.m., deloptes wrote: >>> Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > [...] > >>> You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... t

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 4:04 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:51:24AM -0700, Weaver wrote: > > [...] > >> Do you really think it's that bad? > > I actually agree that it is manageable. OTOH, things are > changing, and change must be tackled. > > Community is these days more di

Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list ...]

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 04:27:08AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > > > On 2021-08-19 2:18 a.m., deloptes wrote: > > Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > > You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with > > moral superiority syndrome. > > >

Re: Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants ...]

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-19 3:47 a.m., to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:18:37AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > > [...] > >> You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with >> moral superiority syndrome. > > This is a crudely obvious flamebait. Why do you do this? >

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-19 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
>> What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing >> over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by >> giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or policing what's >> acceptable and not. But don&#

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:51:24AM -0700, Weaver wrote: Do you really think it's that bad? Yes. I can remember back when I would wake up in the morning to have over 300 list messages on screen. And, many of those were Off-Topic but, usually, people were reasonably active in labelling th

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 12:51:24AM -0700, Weaver wrote: [...] > Do you really think it's that bad? I actually agree that it is manageable. OTOH, things are changing, and change must be tackled. Community is these days more diverse than it used to be. This is a Good Thing, but it makes communica

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-19 Thread Weaver
On 19-08-2021 16:23, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:34:24AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: >>What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing >>over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really t

Flamebait [was: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants ...]

2021-08-19 Thread tomas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 08:18:37AM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > You see yourself in a role to correct someone ... typical for leftist with > moral superiority syndrome. This is a crudely obvious flamebait. Why do you do this? - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 01:34:24AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: What if ? What if there wasn't any *bad* user ? You are the one bringing over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or pol

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread deloptes
inging > over old subject that you consider off-topic. You seem really touched by > giving your self a role as governor of a mailing list or policing what's > acceptable and not. But don't seem to understand that the community > itself made the choice of having this list un-moder

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
ere.  But, >>> such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead* >>> of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone think that >>> d-community-offtopic served that purpose? My general feeling is >>> things are worse now than they were when d-com

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside
On 2021-08-17 7:04 p.m., Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > >> Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a >> lot >> of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. &g

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Brian
if it gets used *instead* > > of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone think that > > d-community-offtopic served that purpose? My general feeling is > > things are worse now than they were when d-community-offtopic was > > around and active, but I'm not sure tha

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread deloptes
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the > official Debian mailing list server, rather than elsewhere.  But, > such a list will only serve its purpose if it gets used *instead* > of off-topic conversations on this list. Does anyone th

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread rhkramer
On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 07:27:17 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > I think the primary use case of debian-user-offtopic would be to > have a place for people on debian-user to tell others to move > their threads. That sounds like a useful thing -- somebody could point out that a post is off-

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a > > lot > > of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. > > I think the way forward th

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 02:56:30PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a lot of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. I think the way forward this time would be to request one on the official Debian mailing list

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Weaver
On 18-08-2021 09:04, Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > [...] > >> Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a >> lot >> of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. >

[WAY OFF-TOPIC] Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread John Hasler
Amp-hr capacity purports to be an indication of the amount of charge (not energy) that you can put into a cell and expect to get back out assuming defined end-point voltages. It doesn't really work well as a measure of the ability of a cell to store energy but we're stuck with it for historical re

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Aug 2021 at 14:56:30 -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: [...] > Hmm, afaiac, it would be nice to have an off-topic list with the hopes of a > lot > of the people on debian-user might subscribe to it. Nice? Really? There was one. It failed abysmally in its task. The boys and g

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 06:21:30 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 03:36:58PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > I guess the measure of the charge (18 maHrs vs. 120 maHrs) is not the > > charge "contained" in the battery, but instead the amount of charge > > required to b

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 03:36:58PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 03:26:19 PM Weaver wrote: > > On 18-08-2021 04:56, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Somewhat relevant to the subject of an off-topic mailing list, I'm now > > > puzz

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Terence
I would join an off-topic list as I have seen many interesting off-topic topics raised here over the last couple of decades (when you measure time in decades it's probably time to go back to counting in years!). Terence On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 at 20:37, wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 20

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 03:26:19 PM Weaver wrote: > On 18-08-2021 04:56, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Somewhat relevant to the subject of an off-topic mailing list, I'm now > > puzzling over why an NiMH AA battery tested to hold 18 maHrs seems to > > power an LED

Re: Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them)

2021-08-17 Thread Weaver
On 18-08-2021 04:56, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 10:54:34 AM SDA wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 08:26:34AM -0400, SDA wrote: >> > > BTW there has been an off-topic

Wishing for an off-topic mail list with debian-user participants (or most of them) (was: Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian])

2021-08-17 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, August 17, 2021 10:54:34 AM SDA wrote: > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 03:01:43PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 08:26:34AM -0400, SDA wrote: > > > BTW there has been an off-topic list introduced by a community member, > > > but it

Re: [Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

2021-06-14 Thread Joe
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 11:41:37 +0200 wrote: > "Any sufficiently advanced malice is indistinguishable from > stupidity" > > (some call that "plausible deniability"). > > "People would rather appear stupid than evil". -- Joe

Re: [Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

2021-06-14 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 10:46:34AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > > Secure Boot (Microsoft's attempt to stop you from using Linux) > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > While I'm not a fan of Microsoft: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot#What_is_UEFI_Secure_Boot

[Off topic thoughts] Re: debian installation issue

2021-06-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt
ity screws at the side plates of the box. It is unfortunate that Intel and Microsoft could not bring themselves to create an independent institution which authorizes the legitimate boot programs which are acceptable by default. -------- As

Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Wed, Jun 09, 2021 at 09:58:13AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > I'm told that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" > headers for DMARC-enabled senders, and neither does it do anything > else to handle DMARC-enabled senders. Correct, so the SPF test will always fail as the l

Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread deloptes
James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Please excuse the off-topic post, but I'm hoping this has come up with > others here: > > I've been tasked with implementing DMARC on our domain. And I'm told > that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" headers

Re: Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread Dan Ritter
James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Please excuse the off-topic post, but I'm hoping this has come up with > others here: > > I've been tasked with implementing DMARC on our domain. And I'm told that > the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" headers

Slightly off-topic: anybody know of a way to keep one's Debian User List posts from failing DMARC?

2021-06-09 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Please excuse the off-topic post, but I'm hoping this has come up with others here: I've been tasked with implementing DMARC on our domain. And I'm told that the Debian List Server doesn't rewrite "From" headers for DMARC-enabled senders, and neither does it do

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I agree that it is not people-friendly to try preventing the use of a > video after it was depublicated by state TV. The concept of Depublication > is technically an unrealistic fiction and also a blow to the payers of > state TV fees ("Rundfunkgebuehren"). > > Given the g

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Joe
On Wed, 05 May 2021 09:51:59 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > > But i really do not see any such censoring with the video about > environmental problems with electrical cars. It was aired and then > available for two months. Business as good or bad as ever. > Even the WEF are fairly upfront ab

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old > > environmental hog"), sung by a children choir Michael Lange wrote: > Still seems to be available on yt, though. Legally it could now be "Zeitgeschichte" (= "contemporary history") and thus be exempted from t

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > i really do not see any such censoring with the video about > > environmental problems with electrical cars. deloptes wrote: > But it was on youtube and was removed and I could not find it I agree that it is not people-friendly to try preventing the use of a video after it was d

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, On Wed, 05 May 2021 09:51:59 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: (...) > The reason for not eternally offering videos for download is in the > legal framework of german state TV. (In german: > "Rundfunkstaatsvertrag", now "Medienstaatsvertrag".) > > State run TV collects mandatory fees from all h

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > We had cases of self-censoring which led to depublication. I remember > the song "Meine Oma ist 'ne alte Umweltsau" (= "My granny is an old > environmental hog"), sung by a children choir and produced by TV station > WDR in 2019. That video was retracted after conservative

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Michael Lange wrote: > Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video > for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained > any further. The reason for not eternally offering videos for download is in the legal framework of german state TV. (In

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread Michael Lange
;t care enough to further investigate, you can certainly see the details during the closing credits. But all this is really far off-topic here, so i guess this discussion should better come to an end. I hope you enjoy the film! Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Michael Lange wrote: > now I got curious too. > Oddly, it seems like the German public TV station ZDF blocked the video > for Germany due to "intellectual property rights" which are not explained > any further. Maybe the real copyright holders still hope to earn money by > somehow selling their do

Re: [Off topic] videos of german state TV, was Re: HTML syntax.

2021-05-05 Thread deloptes
Felmon Davis wrote: > I got intrigued (and again apologies for my error!) and weird but I > found it here: . > > I'm pretty sure it's the right video but check. > > also I wonder if the link will work for you. Cool. This is great help - THANK YOU! Do

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