Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Johnson
Mark Grieveson wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to gmane.linux.debian.user: > I almost never make offtopic posts. I get the digest, and go through > it for items of interest, occasionally asking for help, and sometimes > attempting to offer assistance. When replying to messages in the

Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-23 Thread Abram B Olson
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 00:50 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: > Offtopic posts do not bother me. The idea of moderation, however, I > feel is repulsive. So, my recommendation is to continue the list as a > free and unmoderated list. > > That concludes my two cents. > > Mark > > I agree with Mark.

Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-22 Thread Mark Grieveson
I almost never make offtopic posts. I get the digest, and go through it for items of interest, occasionally asking for help, and sometimes attempting to offer assistance. Offtopic posts do not bother me. The idea of moderation, however, I feel is repulsive. So, my recommendation is to continue

Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-22 Thread Michael Marsh
On 5/22/07, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, I thought that our OT discussion was fairly polite. Vigorously argued, but fairly civil. Certainly the people complaining weren't flamed. I haven't been following the longer threads, so I really couldn't say. The code of conduct could certain

Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-22 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:31:58 -0400 "Michael Marsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's why I suggest a writen code of conduct / policy that covers OT > > and other issues, that is then self-regulated by the users of the list. > > You

Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-22 Thread M. Fioretti
On Tue, May 22, 2007 06:08:41 AM -0400, Miles Fidelman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > M. Fioretti wrote: > >(*) yes, the moderators, that is listmasters or whatever you want to > >call them. I have read your objection that this is a not moderated > >list, but it is irrelevant. My proposal was to ban

Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-22 Thread Michael Marsh
On 5/22/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's why I suggest a writen code of conduct / policy that covers OT and other issues, that is then self-regulated by the users of the list. You mean like http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct ? Granted, it doesn't cover O

Re: moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-22 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 06:08:41AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > There's a legal issue here that nobody's mentioned. > > At least in the US, there is a growing body of law and precedent that > says, essentially: > > - if you provide a list, but don't moderate traffic, you're not legally > l

moderation [was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user]

2007-05-22 Thread Miles Fidelman
M. Fioretti wrote: (*) yes, the moderators, that is listmasters or whatever you want to call them. I have read your objection that this is a not moderated list, but it is irrelevant. My proposal was to ban outright your email or IP addresses, not to hold and check each single email sent to the li