Am 2008-02-06 17:00:43, schrieb NN_il_Confusionario:
> > You can use the IBM Netfini (Dual P2/233 with 512 MB of memory)
> > as nice mini workstations which are cheap on eBay.
>
> I was referring to a (peculiar kind of) powerpc architecture, which the
> reqester possibly dislikes since possibly Op
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:34:25PM -0700, Travis Crook wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:59:25 -0500
> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
> > >
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:59:25 -0500
"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Possibly the requester will not like also your suggestion since the
> >
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:59:25AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > I was referring to a (peculiar kind of) powerpc architecture,
>
> Below 200 MHz and run current Debian or OpenBSD.
current 2.6.x linux kernels should have
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Am 2008-01-31 08:51:08, schrieb NN_il_Confusionario:
> > > The IBM I have (90MHz cpu, "carolina" motherboard) still runs woody (and
> > > linux 1.4.19); I do
On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-01-31 08:51:08, schrieb NN_il_Confusionario:
> > The IBM I have (90MHz cpu, "carolina" motherboard) still runs woody (and
> > linux 1.4.19); I do not think it would run smoothly with etch.
>
> I suspect, Woody will run wit
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 07:44:30AM -0800, Brian wrote:
> I hadnt considered the multi proc possibility, there are indeed some
> dual proc p2 boxen available.
>
> I see a dual p2 300 (probably too fast) for 60 bux with 3 9 gig scsi
> disks and 512 mb ram as well.
Yea, 300 is too fast. 200 is th
I hadnt considered the multi proc possibility, there are indeed some
dual proc p2 boxen available.
I see a dual p2 300 (probably too fast) for 60 bux with 3 9 gig scsi
disks and 512 mb ram as well.
Brian
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Am 2008-01-31 08:51:08, schrieb NN_il_Confusionario:
> The IBM I have (90MHz cpu, "carolina" motherboard) still runs woody (and
> linux 1.4.19); I do not think it would run smoothly with etch.
I suspect, Woody will run with a 1.4.19 :-)
Since it was shiped with 2.2.20 and 2.4.8 (AFAIK)
> I thin
Am 2008-01-31 14:31:34, schrieb Julian De Marchi:
>
>
> >Any suggestions for good old boxes like this that will run modern Debian
> >or OpenBSD and be reasonably reliable?
>
> An Old HP Proliant 800 or something would suit. They are readily available
> on ebay. I ran one with multiple 200mhz cp
It seems you have the need for EMP-Secured equipment...
I have 19" racks which support NEMA68 and EMP...
But I believe, a "normal" working human can not buy it!
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
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Tamay Dogan Network
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HP/Compaq Proliant 5000. 200 MHz (may be available slower) is a
possibility at $300 USD on eBay plus shipping it across the border to
Canada. 2 PCI busses with 5 slots (2 shared with EISA), max 4 GB ram,
Pen Pro CPU, 5 bays in a rack-mount, 4 in a tower (may be other options
but I haven't got
Nate Duehr wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:58:28AM -0500, Christopher Judd wrote:
PS FWIW, I doubt that it is really the high frequency fields that
she is sensitive to
But, there were quite a few MORE people who were actually sensitive to
ultra-sonic frequenci
Doug,
Just let me say that I greatly admire your dedication!
I've always respected your contributions to Debian-User, and now I
respect them even more that I know the extremely limiting
circumstances under which you operate.
Please give my best to your wife and express my sincere hope that
On Feb 5, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
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Powerlines are 60 Hz. He said anything under 200 MHz is OK, so that
should be a non-issue. (Assuming there isn't any
broadband-over-powerline system in his
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Actually, the box doesn't need X. I've got the Athlon64 for clear
graphics and I have my IBM 486 for non-anti-alised viewing of e.g. pdf
files. It won't run Debian anymore (won't install, and if I do the
drive shell-game, it takes 2 minutes to get from login to shell
pr
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:58:28AM -0500, Christopher Judd wrote:
PS FWIW, I doubt that it is really the high frequency fields that
she is sensitive to, but without another explanation, you have to go
with what works for you. FYI, UHF TV signals are in the 70 - 1000
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 10:31:09AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/05/08 08:35, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > I write this sitting at a Digital VT 520.
>
> Amber screen?
No, model A6. White screen.
>
> Get a DECserver and then the F5(?) key lets you break to a terminal
> server prompt and log i
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:58:28AM -0500, Christopher Judd wrote:
> PS FWIW, I doubt that it is really the high frequency fields that
> she is sensitive to, but without another explanation, you have to go
> with what works for you. FYI, UHF TV signals are in the 70 - 1000 MHz
> range. It woul
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:40:17AM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >
> >How does she walk across the street, under the power-lines?
>
> Powerlines are 60 Hz. He said anything under 200 MHz is OK, so that
> should be a non-issue. (Assuming ther
Ron Johnson wrote:
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On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
How does she walk across the street, under the power-lines?
Powerlines are 60 Hz. He said anything under 200 MHz is OK, so t
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> On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
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>> How does she walk across the street, under the power-lines?
>
> Powerlines are 60 Hz. He said anything under 200 MHz is OK, so that
> should be a non-i
On Feb 5, 2008, at 5:16 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
How does she walk across the street, under the power-lines?
Powerlines are 60 Hz. He said anything under 200 MHz is OK, so that
should be a non-issue. (Assuming there isn't any broadband-over-
powerline system in his area, at least.)
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The VIA EPIA 5000AG Fanless mini ITX runs at 533Mhz. I don't know if you can
find a way to underclock it.
Fanless VIA Eden 533MHz Processor, Up to 1GB PC133 Ram, Onboard VGA, Serial,
4xUSB v1.1, LAN 10/100, Parallel. Does not have TV out.
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On Monday 04 February 2008, John Hasler wrote:
> David Brodbeck writes:
> > ...have you considered putting the machine in another room and placing
> > only the monitor, keyboard, and mouse at your wife's workstation?
>
> Or put the computer in the basement and set her up with a diskless
> X-termin
On Tuesday 05 February 2008, John Hasler wrote:
> ...
> And everything at a temperature above absolute zero emits radiation at all
> wavelengths.
Not really.
-Chris
| Christopher Judd, Ph. D. [EMAIL
I wrote:
> Halogens are incandescents. They just use a bit of chemistry to run hotter
> than ordinary incandescents.
Doug writes:
> In the process, we've been told by EMF researchers, they also emit more
> EMF than regualar non-chemical incandescents.
Who are these EMF researchers?
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On 02/05/08 08:57, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 07:26:47AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 02/04/08 23:03, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Sure. We don't have florescents, nor even halogens. Plain ordinary
>>> (soon to be d
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On 02/05/08 08:35, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
>
> I write this sitting at a Digital VT 520.
Amber screen?
Get a DECserver and then the F5(?) key lets you break to a terminal
server prompt and log into another machine. The VT lets you switch
bet
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 08:06:58AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > Sure. We don't have florescents, nor even halogens. Plain ordinary
> > (soon to be discontinued) incandescant.
>
> Halogens are incandescents. They just use a bit of chemistry to run hotter
> than ordinar
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 07:26:47AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/04/08 23:03, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > Sure. We don't have florescents, nor even halogens. Plain ordinary
> > (soon to be discontinued) incandescant. Analog radio is fine (IIRC,
> > intermediate frequency of 155
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 07:16:06AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 02/04/08 22:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > The problem is real. There is no placebo effect to worry about.
> >
> > Currently, Athlon64 box is as far from my wife as possible (70 feet).
> > Based on our experience of
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> Sure. We don't have florescents, nor even halogens. Plain ordinary
> (soon to be discontinued) incandescant.
Halogens are incandescents. They just use a bit of chemistry to run hotter
than ordinary incandescents.
Ron Johnson writes:
> Visible light is 100,000GHz and i
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On 02/04/08 23:03, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
>
> Sure. We don't have florescents, nor even halogens. Plain ordinary
> (soon to be discontinued) incandescant. Analog radio is fine (IIRC,
> intermediate frequency of 155 MHz).
Visible light is
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On 02/04/08 22:44, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
>
> The problem is real. There is no placebo effect to worry about.
>
> Currently, Athlon64 box is as far from my wife as possible (70 feet).
> Based on our experience of other high-MHz or GHz device
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 12:28:51AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
>
> A Blue and White G3 will happily boot and run the latest Debian
> releases (Etch or Lenny). The Beige G3s (which may have slightly
> lower MHz ratings [233 for Beige vs 300 for the B&W]) will run Sarge
> OK once booted -- I ha
A Blue and White G3 will happily boot and run the latest Debian
releases (Etch or Lenny). The Beige G3s (which may have slightly
lower MHz ratings [233 for Beige vs 300 for the B&W]) will run Sarge
OK once booted -- I haven't tried Etch or Lenny, but they need a bit
of TLC to get them to
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 03:43:34PM -0600, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> On Sunday 03 February 2008 21:18:50 Bob wrote:
>
> > I'd get a modern ish server and underclock it, that way you'll be able
> > to get more RAM and bigger hard drives, the Athlon XP was fairly easy to
> > get down to 300 MHz with t
Hello,
Thanks for your continuing interest, and for the interest of those new
to the thread. I'll summarize where things are at to avoid duplication.
Sorry if this gets a bit long. I'll also mark it OT since its not
Debian-specific.
Thanks,
Doug.
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The problem is real. There is no placeb
On Sunday 03 February 2008 21:18:50 Bob wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping
> > away. The base technology predates my IT experience.
> >
> > My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields.
> >
If you have a garage or shed that might work, keep it outside, a
Sparstation or other UNIX type machine would probably handle the
extremes of possible conditions if it isn't heated better than a
generic pc would.
Also, consider that wall-warts are often the biggest producers of EM
radiation too, e
meant to send this to the list but sent to bob by mistake oops!
Read this thread with a bit of interest.
In terms of non-x86 there are a lot of options.
For Sun/SPARC32, theres Sparcstation 10s and 20s (I recently gave 4
away on freecycle), they're old and slow really. But you can put upto
512mb
David Brodbeck writes:
> ...have you considered putting the machine in another room and placing
> only the monitor, keyboard, and mouse at your wife's workstation?
Or put the computer in the basement and set her up with a diskless
X-terminal based on an old, slow pc.
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On Feb 3, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
I was also wondering, re RF/EMF shielding, if a rack-mount server in a
half-height rack with front and back doors may be a good way to go.
With the doors closed, there's a lot fewer openings large enough for
the
EMF to get out.
I haven't b
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 11:18:50AM +0800, Bob wrote:
I'd get a modern ish server and underclock it, that way you'll be able
to get more RAM and bigger hard drives, the Athlon XP was fairly easy to
get down to 300 MHz with the FSB still @ 133, I never tried lower but
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 11:18:50AM +0800, Bob wrote:
> I'd get a modern ish server and underclock it, that way you'll be able
> to get more RAM and bigger hard drives, the Athlon XP was fairly easy to
> get down to 300 MHz with the FSB still @ 133, I never tried lower but I
> don't see why not
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Hello,
I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping
away. The base technology predates my IT experience.
My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields.
She gets headaches and other pains when exposed to equipment: the higher
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 08:43:13PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> email check. My 486 isn't used right now since it only has 32 MB ram
> and an 850 MB hard drive. The backup set size right now is around 2 GB.
I often used big modern IDE disks on 486 and pentiums. Sometimes I had
to disable the
I am surprised no one mentione PPC hardware. There are old PowerMac towers that
come with a huge room inside to install hard drives and etc. As I remember
correctly, I am pretty sure there was a model with two processors in them
(Motorola 604s or 603s). That would be a much better choice than a
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 14:31:34 +1000
Julian De Marchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Any suggestions for good old boxes like this that will run modern
> > Debian or OpenBSD and be reasonably reliable?
I generally hang around the rubbish bins of the local primary schools
at budget time.
Last t
I use to run an older version of debian (and slackware) on a 486 (this
was about 8 years ago).
You could probably find a generic 486 somewhere cheap and/or for free!
Try to find a 486DX4 (100Mz, 50Mhz Bus) [I think this was the fastest
non-overdrive 486]
Or, maybe look for an old Pentium Pr
Any suggestions for good old boxes like this that will run modern Debian
or OpenBSD and be reasonably reliable?
An Old HP Proliant 800 or something would suit. They are readily available on
ebay. I ran one with multiple 200mhz cpus for a year or so, and it never had a
hiccup.
Best thing i
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 09:31:14PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> One of the best approaches would be to enlist the assistance of a
> local amateur radio operator, who likely would offer assistance free
> of charge, and be happy for the opportunity to help. Write (or email)
> the Amateur Radi
* Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [080130 20:49]:
> Hello,
>
> I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping
> away. The base technology predates my IT experience.
>
> My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields.
> She gets headaches and other
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Mihira Fernando wrote:
| Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
|> Hello,
|>
|> I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping
|> away. The base technology predates my IT experience.
|>
|> My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electroma
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Hello,
I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping
away. The base technology predates my IT experience.
My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields.
She gets headaches and other pains when exposed to equipment: the higher
Hello,
I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping
away. The base technology predates my IT experience.
My wife is sensitive to what she describes as electromagnetic fields.
She gets headaches and other pains when exposed to equipment: the higher
the frequency, the worse
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