Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2015-11-03 Thread Martin T
In addition to symlinks to /etc/rc.d/ directories, insserv adds a ":" line to /etc/init.d/.depend.start file. My mistake was that I added ":" line to /etc/init.d/.depend.start file. regards, Martin On 8/9/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 04 aug 14, 13:30:54, Martin T wrote: >> >> As a next s

Re: Problems with init scripts at boot after upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy

2014-12-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: > First the service xdm is now started long before other services (like dhcp, > clamd, dansguardian...) are started. > Before the upgrade xdm was the last service that was started which was ok. Sounds like you are now using the parallel boot whereas before it was the ser

Re: Problems with init scripts at boot after upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy

2014-12-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 16:19:12, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote: > Hi, > > After upgrading from Sqeeze to Wheezy i have two problems with starting up > services while booting. > > First the service xdm is now started long before other services (like dhcp, > clamd, dansguardian...) are started. And why is

Problems with init scripts at boot after upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy

2014-12-10 Thread Bernhard Frühmesser
Hi, After upgrading from Sqeeze to Wheezy i have two problems with starting up services while booting. First the service xdm is now started long before other services (like dhcp, clamd, dansguardian...) are started. Before the upgrade xdm was the last service that was started which was ok.

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
ed your own question. Currently sysv *is* the least common denominator. From an upstream perspective, increased use of systemd, just makes lives more difficult - once can no longer count on simply including a set of sysvinit scripts with confidence that they'll just work. At a minimum, they ha

[OT] "xy?" [was: Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]]

2014-11-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
Scott Ferguson wrote: On 19/11/14 15:12, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 23:14, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: Scott Ferguson wrote: On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: I left out sendmail, but I just che

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
nit scripts with confidence that they'll just work. At a minimum, they > have to start worrying about incompatibilities between their init scripts > and systemd's implementation of sysvinit. Assuming there are any. > Beyond that, they have to either > rely on packagers, or star

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
iosity, how are you comparing these to the init scripts that > are generated by making the upstream source? I was not comparing, I was checking which debian/ folders (aka Debian packaging) would contain init scripts, which are then installed in the binary packages as /etc/init.d/package (see dh_

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
gt;>> one >>>> to suit the usecase. >>>> 2. Like sendmail itself there is no "one-size-all" session/timer >>>> configuration. >>>> 3. If the user installs from a distro repostitory they get a "default" >>>> .sessio

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
o match the distro. (If the distro is going to do the work why should upstream do it?) They ship sysvinit scripts, period. Which is my point. I suspect the logic you base the point upon is flawed. ./configure make; make test; make install Apropos of what??!! pretty much works for pretty much any major

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
ce scripts. Let's take the inverse view: which of these use the upstream sysvinit scripts directly ? The answer, as demonstrated below, is: none. Out of curiosity, how are you comparing these to the init scripts that are generated by making the upstream source? At the very least, would not

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
y they get a "default" >> .session file to match the distro. (If the distro is going to do the >> work why should upstream do it?) >> >> >>> They ship sysvinit scripts, period. Which is >>> my point. >> I suspect the logic you base the poin

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Eduard Bloch
care to > >elaborate? > > > > It's very simple. I have a bunch of stuff running on my system that I > compiled from upstream code, including init scripts that work just fine. > Now I have to worry that some of those scripts are incompatible with > systemd. Yo

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
ot shared across distributions at all. So, the upstream examples you chose actually demonstrate that these were not targeting Debian enough for the Debian maintainers to use the provided init scripts (if these were even provided). (Note, I'm not claiming Debian will not need to modify t

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread iain
Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream. dpkg -l | grep xymon ii xymon-client 4.3.17-4 amd64client for the Xymon network monitor 17:25:35 weezer:~/src/xymon-4.3.17$ diff /etc/init.d/xymon-client debian/xymon-

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer
Am 18.11.2014 um 10:07 schrieb Ludovic Meyer : > > Show us where Debian is using the file shipped by upstream. Maybe drbd? > > Then, tell me, is Debian wrong to not use them, or > are the script shipped upstream deficient ? > > In fact, you show "they are shipping initscript", > but tell m

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Given all the talk about not being ab

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
sysvinit scripts, period. Which is my point. I suspect the logic you base the point upon is flawed. ./configure make; make test; make install pretty much works for pretty much any major server application - which includes installing init scripts from upstream that just work packaging adds s

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Ludovic Meyer
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:54:16PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ludovic Meyer wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>Ludovic Meyer wrote: > >>>On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >Given all the talk about not being able to i

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 18/11/14 15:06, Miles Fidelman wrote: Please don't top post - it's not hard to move the mouse. > > Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: >>> I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and guess >>> what, no systemd service file in upstream). >> xy? > Ummm those

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ummm those are NOT systemd scripts shipped by the upstream sendmail developers. They ship sysvinit scripts, period. Which is my point. Major upstream application developers do not seem to be jumping on systemd. If anything, what I'm seeing are "oh sh&t, I guess we should develop systemd

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote: > I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and > guess what, no systemd service file in upstream). xy? Did you try Google? https://www.google.com/search?q=systemd+%2B%22sendmail.service%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&&channel=sb > > What do they know? > >

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the maj

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Ludovic Meyer
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ludovic Meyer wrote: > >On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>>Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it > >>>occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major > >>>app

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ludovic Meyer wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service scripts. I just wen

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Ludovic Meyer
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it > >occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major > >applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service > >scripts. I just went through th

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Miles Fidelman
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service scripts. I just went through the documentation, and in some cases, the source trees, for the following:

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 nov 14, 07:29:00, Marty wrote: > On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote: > >>On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> > >>>In the later case, one just has to read: > >>>http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibi

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-17 Thread Marty
On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote: On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: >In the later case, one just has to read: >http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/ >to get very, very scared Each one a bug as per De

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote: > On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > >In the later case, one just has to read: > >http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/ > >to get very, very scared > > Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Loo

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-16 Thread Miles Fidelman
p.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/ to get very, very scared I don't see any item that would matter on a Debian system, care to elaborate? It's very simple. I have a bunch of stuff running on my system that I compiled from upstream code, including init scripts that work jus

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-16 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:50:25 -0500, Miles Fidelman a écrit : [...] > So... with systemd, one has to: > - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or, > - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which > > In the later case, one just has to read: > http://www.freedesktop.or

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-16 Thread Marty
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: In the later case, one just has to read: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/ to get very, very scared Each one a bug as per Debian policy (sysvinit support). Looks like we have our work cut out for us. Among the

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 16 nov 14, 11:50:25, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > So... with systemd, one has to: > - rely on packagers to generate systemd service files, and/or, > - rely on systemd's support for sysvinit scripts, which > > In the later case, one just has to read: > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/

Re: init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-16 Thread Ludovic Meyer
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:50:25AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it > occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major > applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service > scripts. > > I just went through t

init scripts [was: If Not Systemd, then What?]

2014-11-16 Thread Miles Fidelman
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service scripts. I just went through the documentation, and in some cases, the source trees, for the following

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > I really do NOT want to start a flame war, I know that you guys are tired > about this "init" subject appearing over and over... But, my turn...:-P This thread is off-topic for -user. debian-user@lists.debian.org is for Debian support. If you want

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014, at 19:34, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > I really do NOT want to start a flame war, I know that you guys are tired about this "init" subject appearing over and over... No, you wanted to add more oil on existing flamewars and you know it. If you don't want to start the flamewars,

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 15:34:43 -0200 Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > > But please, guys, DO NOT LOSE "*DEBIAN COMPILATION*"!! > > I mean, when I read that infamous guy, Poettering, talking about > things like this: > > > http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html > >

Re: Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Sorry man... English isn't my native language, is hard for me to express myself in another language... But yes, those sources aren't the best but, there are more, you know. :-P Best! Thiago On 20 October 2014 15:55, Axel Wagner wrote: > Hi, > > Martinx - ジェームズ writes: > > I really do NOT wan

Remember when men were men and wrote their own init scripts? =)

2014-10-20 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Keeping `sysvinit-core` in Debian 8 (9, 10...) *at a reliable level* *is a wise thing to do*. Just in case... (I don't trust RedHat neither the Corporatocracy). So! Let the men write their own init scripts powered by `sysvinit-core` for a long time ahead! Don't throw this away! Also, keep

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 04 aug 14, 13:30:54, Martin T wrote: > > As a next step, I made the /etc/init.d/test-script file executable and > added a symlink to /etc/rc3.d/("ln -s ../init.d/test-script > /etc/rc3.d/S23test-script") directory and changed my runlevel from > 2(default) to 3 with "init 3". However, the te

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 04 aug 14, 11:37:08, Gary Dale wrote: > > OK. On Jessie it is a symbolic link to /bin/systemctl. The difference is > likely important to provide a standard way to change run levels despite not > everyone using init. Ditto for insserv which seems to have been created to > allow upstart and i

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-08 Thread Martin T
On 8/4/14, Gary Dale wrote: > On 04/08/14 11:04 AM, Martin T wrote: > > On 8/4/14, Gary Dale wrote: > >> On 04/08/14 06:30 AM, Martin T wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I played around with a LSB init script under Squeeze(init is from >>> sysvinit package version 2.88dsf-13.1+squeeze1) for learning purpose

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-04 Thread Gary Dale
On 04/08/14 11:04 AM, Martin T wrote: On 8/4/14, Gary Dale wrote: On 04/08/14 06:30 AM, Martin T wrote: Hi, I played around with a LSB init script under Squeeze(init is from sysvinit package version 2.88dsf-13.1+squeeze1) for learning purposes. My script is following: # cat /etc/init.d/test

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-04 Thread Martin T
Hi, by "reloaded the machine" I meant that I executed the "reboot" command. I did try with telinit, but at least on Squeeze this is just a symlink to init: # file /sbin/telinit /sbin/telinit: symbolic link to `init' # regards, Martin On 8/4/14, Gary Dale wrote: > On 04/08/14 06:30 AM, Martin

How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-04 Thread Martin T
Hi, I played around with a LSB init script under Squeeze(init is from sysvinit package version 2.88dsf-13.1+squeeze1) for learning purposes. My script is following: # cat /etc/init.d/test-script #! /bin/sh ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: test # Required-Start:$all # Required-Stop:

Re: Question on concurrency of init scripts

2012-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:28:18 +0530, Prasant J wrote: > I'm using debian squeeze armel port. > > This is a general question on debian init scripts. I have written my > custom script. When concurrency is set to none everything works fine. > But for faster boot I want concurrenc

Question on concurrency of init scripts

2012-03-30 Thread Prasant J
Hi, I'm using debian squeeze armel port. This is a general question on debian init scripts. I have written my custom script. When concurrency is set to none everything works fine. But for faster boot I want concurrency, so I have set the dependencies properly and updated using insserv

Re: Ordering init scripts & use of CONCURRENCY

2010-06-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-06-09 17:38 +0200, Arthur Machlas wrote: > So should I just delete my CONCURRENCY addition to the /etc/defaul/rcS > file and it will return to default, or should I switch it to makefile? Both will work. I just removed it entirely, since the setting is not really official (i.e. not mentio

Re: Ordering init scripts & use of CONCURRENCY

2010-06-09 Thread Arthur Machlas
> So should I just delete my CONCURRENCY addition to the /etc/defaul/rcS > file and it will return to default, or should I switch it to makefile? Nevermind. I just removed the line and can see in my bootlogs that runelevel S and 2 both use "makefile-syle concurrent boot" Cheers, -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: Ordering init scripts & use of CONCURRENCY

2010-06-09 Thread Arthur Machlas
>On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> On 2010-06-09 16:48 +0200, Arthur Machlas wrote: >> >> Then ran: >> dpkg-reconfigure insserv > > This is a no-op in Squeeze, you want to run the "insserv" command so > that the order of the symlinks in rc?.d is changed to reflect the > cha

Re: Ordering init scripts & use of CONCURRENCY

2010-06-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-06-09 16:48 +0200, Arthur Machlas wrote: > I changed my lsb header in the custom script (/etc/init.d/phc_vids) to: > # Require-start: $acpi > > Then under /etc/insserv.conf I added the following line: > $acpi +cpufrequtils +loadcpufreq > > Then ran: > dpkg-reconfigure insserv This is a no

Ordering init scripts & use of CONCURRENCY

2010-06-09 Thread Arthur Machlas
First, regarding my earlier email, which I cannot reply to directly (apologies), as it has been downloaded off of gmail, I *think* I've gotten the ordering to work correctly. I changed my lsb header in the custom script (/etc/init.d/phc_vids) to: # Require-start: $acpi Then under /etc/insserv.con

Re: How can I change the order of init scripts?

2010-06-07 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Arthur Machlas wrote: > Greetings list, > > I have created a simple init script to apply custom vid values to my > cpus via the phc_intel module, which > Sorry about that, I just discovered there is a keyboard shortcut to send an email in gmail. To continue, I've

How can I change the order of init scripts?

2010-06-07 Thread Arthur Machlas
Greetings list, I have created a simple init script to apply custom vid values to my cpus via the phc_intel module, which -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian

mutual mounting of network filesystems via init scripts

2009-01-18 Thread Micha Feigin
r the run. I tried setting up mutual nfs sharing, i.e mount all machines in the cluster under /remote, that is to have /remote/machine1 /remote/machine2 ... The problem is that the machines don't come up at the same time so there is a problem mounting each other from the init scripts. Is

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-17 Thread Bogart Salzberg
On Mar 9, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 27 February 2008 06:06:37 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I also would like to spend some Debian money

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 09 March 2008 05:53:50 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:37:38PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Thursday 28 February 2008 03:09:48 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > I'd be very interested in Debian, with aptitude, etc, with the OpenBSD > > > kernel. To me, this wo

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:37:38PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 28 February 2008 03:09:48 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > I'd be very interested in Debian, with aptitude, etc, with the OpenBSD > > kernel. To me, this would be the best of both worlds. > > Debian, being the universal op

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 28 February 2008 03:09:48 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:30:23PM -0800, debian azul wrote: > > Debian does not need a friendly mascot. That is ridiculous. Debian is > > well known because it is great work not because its appearance is nice or > > cool. There are

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 06 March 2008 03:25:25 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Or, was there a pig in Toy Story? Does Pixar use Debian on its boxes > and would they lend us non-exclusive rights to use the image? Yup, and there was even a Debian version named after him. "Hamm." -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 08:44:57 pm Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > ... > > > Many of my windows using mates are at least familiar with Tux, even > > though many have only ever used linux at my place (and then only > > using firefox to check email, har

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday 03 March 2008 03:07:27 am Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:44:14PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > [...] > > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/calimero.jpg > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg > > Excellent for breaking into the primary school market!

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 04 March 2008 09:08:13 am Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:48:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > It's very disturbing that you know so much lolcode. > > He probably wrote the debian-installer. > > It lol when it sees my old boxes. > > "Whahaha! you're still usin

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 01 March 2008 11:44:02 pm Chris Bannister wrote: > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg No me gusta! -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 27 February 2008 06:06:37 pm Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > > the FreeBSD

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:07:27PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:44:14PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > [...] > > > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/calimero.jpg > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg > > Excellent for breaking into the primary scho

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread s. keeling
Marcelo Chiapparini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 04:38 +0100, s. keeling wrote: > > > > Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. > > But due to the ammonite be an extincted mascot, I think it reinforces > the general believe out there that debian stabl

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 09:04:58AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 04/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > watts, with 32MB ram, at a frequency in the FM band? > > Your CPU runs at a frequency in the FM band? That's the funniest thing > I've ever heard! I am going to recycle tha

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 04:38:59AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > debian azul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian > > doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos > > Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. > It'

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dotan Cohen wrote: > On 04/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> watts, with 32MB ram, at a frequency in the FM band? > > Your CPU runs at a frequency in the FM band? That's the funniest thing > I've ever heard! I am going to recycle

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Damon L. Chesser
s. keeling wrote: Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Thursday 28 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: Hal Vaughan wrote: On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: Debian could use an image revamp, last night i was messing with a There is a revamped i

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-06 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
On Thu, 2008-03-06 at 04:38 +0100, s. keeling wrote: > debian azul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian > > doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos > > Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. > It's not l

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 04/03/2008, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > watts, with 32MB ram, at a frequency in the FM band? Your CPU runs at a frequency in the FM band? That's the funniest thing I've ever heard! I am going to recycle that joke to death! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-05 Thread s. keeling
debian azul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian > doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos Killjoy. You're right of course, but the ammonite has its charms. It's not like it's a care bear or Tux. I preferred the Arctic Tern (?) that

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-05 Thread debian azul
I think that debian logo is perfect for debian project. Debian doesn't need a mascot. I think that is ridiculos

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:48:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/03/08 23:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... > > > > > > HAI > > > > CAN HAZ DOODZ? > > > > I HAZ A VAR > > > > TELLAT DOODZ "aptitude search lol" > > GIMME DOODZ IN TEH VAR > > > > IZ VAR MT? > >NOWAI > > VISIBLE "

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-04 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:48:18PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > It's very disturbing that you know so much lolcode. He probably wrote the debian-installer. It lol when it sees my old boxes. "Whahaha! you're still using a box that has no fan, uses 20 watts, with 32MB ram, at a fr

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/08 23:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:12:24AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: >> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: I ARE STABLE CAT... TH

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:12:24AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > > > I ARE STABLE CAT... THIS IS STABLE DISTRIBUSHON. > > > > > > I'M ON UR SERVER, RUNNING UR DEBIAN > > > > we co

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread s. keeling
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > > > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > > > > >

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 12:47:01 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > > > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisouno

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-03 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 08:44:14PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: [...] > > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/calimero.jpg > http://fixxxer.cc/images/mascot/little_pinguin.jpg Excellent for breaking into the primary school market! richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:12:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > > > > > > > no no care bears :) > > What about lolcats? > >

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 09:21:41 -0800, David Fox wrote: > On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > > > > no no care bears :) What about lolcats? I ARE STABLE CAT... THIS IS STABLE DISTRIBUSHON. I'M ON UR SERVER, RUNNING UR DEBIAN

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-02 Thread David Fox
On 3/1/08, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.rastageeks.org/~toots/debian/bisounours-debian.jpg > no no care bears :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 06:14:22PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > This message was posted by Sam Hocevar (current Debian Project Leader) > ... > > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar t

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 02:26:26AM +, Peter Tynan wrote: > On 28/02/2008, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > This message was posted by Sam Hocevar (current Debian Project Leader) > > > > ... > > > > > > >

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:55:08AM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > "I love the cream swirling into the coffee graphic that was a > bootsplash at some point. Don't know if it's still around, but it sure > captures my image of debian." > > If it doesn't even remotely hint of Java i'll vote for that.

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-03-01 Thread Chuck Rhode
Andrew Henry wrote this on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:00:15PM +0100. My reply is below. > I've always thought it was quite a fitting icon for a free software > distro, but I suppose it means different things to different people. The light blue on blue background splash reminds me of a Tidybowl comm

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-29 Thread Andrew Henry
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > The Debian Swirl reminds me of some kind of worm or shellfish. > > The Debian HookWorm? > The Debian RingWorm? Digs into your Sole (Soul)? Lord of the RingWorm? > The Debian Tapeworm? Makes you hungry for more! > > The Debian Krill? (Eaten by Puffy?) > > The Debian Swi

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-29 Thread Patter
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:00:15 +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > "I love the cream swirling into the coffee graphic that was a > bootsplash at some point. Don't know if it's still around, but it sure > captures my image of debian." > > If it doesn't even remotely hint of Java i'll vote for that. I mad

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-29 Thread Nuno Magalhães
"I love the cream swirling into the coffee graphic that was a bootsplash at some point. Don't know if it's still around, but it sure captures my image of debian." If it doesn't even remotely hint of Java i'll vote for that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Chuck Rhode
s. keeling wrote this on Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:03:40AM +0100. My reply is below. > There was an ancient, giant snail sort of thing (whose name escapes > me) which spent it's life floating in the ocean wherever the > currwent took it. Some fossils are a few feet across. Ah, yes, the ammonites:

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 06:09:48PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Next time I have a spare box, I'll work on having an OpenBSD main system > with Debian in a chroot once I tried it with FreeBSD 4.x chroot /debian/ gave a nice bash prompt, but anything needing to access /dev/ or /proc/ had seri

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread s. keeling
Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'd be very interested in Debian, with aptitude, etc, with the OpenBSD > kernel. To me, this would be the best of both worlds. http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD?highlight=%28freebsd%29 -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insu

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread s. keeling
Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thursday 28 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > On Wednesday 27 February 2008, Rich Healey wrote: > > >> > > >> Debian could use an image revamp, last night i was messing with a > > > > > > There is a revamped image with a new logo

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:06:37PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 09:41:24PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > - Forwarded message from Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > >I also would like to spend some Debian money on a contest, similar to > > the FreeBSD

Re: Idea of a Debian Mascot [Was: FW: Bits from the DPL: FTP assistants, marketing team, init scripts, elections]

2008-02-28 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 03:03:40AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Can't call it the Debian Shrimp since its nees so much memory... > > Bite your tongue: > > (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ free > total used free sharedbuffers

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