Gnome design (was: Debian 12, KVM and shared clipboard issue on Wayland)

2025-01-23 Thread Loris Bennett
Rafał Lichwała writes: [snip (42 lines)] >> > But that's not a solution for me - I don't like GNOME >> +1 >> >> There are many reasons why I don't use GNOME. >> >> One reason is that I read it was designed with the premise that >> use

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/09/2024 22:04, George at Clug wrote: To get the earlier installations to discover the later installed installations, I ran grub-mkconfig I have never tried it, but my impression is that in the case of UEFI boot, rEFInd may detect installed OSes dynamically without explicit configurati

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-29 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Thanks for your report! Le 29/09/2024, George at Clug a écrit: > # grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg > https://averagelinuxuser.com/dual-boot-arch-linux-with-linux/ Alternatively, you could have used a simple 'update-grub' because: $ cat $(which update-grub) #!/bin/sh set -e exec grub-

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-28 Thread George at Clug
testing I created a KVM VM using Virt-Manager. I added up to five virtual disk drives to the VM (later I hope to add more). So far I have installed three separate Debian Bookworm installations, each with a different Desktop Environment (Gnome, XFCE, KDE). In each case (e.g. installation) I install

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-27 Thread Max Nikulin
necessary to switch DM to start another DE? OK, when I tried GNOME last time ~3 years ago on Ubuntu, there was vendor lock-in to GDM due to usage of some API outside of XDG specs. I faced some issues with GDM (so I am avoiding it), but it was possible to use another session type. LightDM and

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-27 Thread George at Clug
ug wrote: > > > > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and > > > > > Debian Mate, Debian XFCE. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Display managers allow to > > > > select session type before logi

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-26 Thread David Wright
On Thu 26 Sep 2024 at 09:52:18 (+0100), Joe wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 07:19:26 +1000 George at Clug wrote: > > On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > > > An other example would be to boot

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-26 Thread Joe
On Thu, 26 Sep 2024 07:19:26 +1000 George at Clug wrote: > My experiences - George. > > On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and > &

Re: boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/09/2024 04:19, George at Clug wrote: Grub did not find other existing Linux distributions. Found Windows, but not other linux distributions. The following has been discussed on debian-user:

boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE

2024-09-25 Thread George at Clug
My experiences - George. On Wednesday, 25-09-2024 at 12:37 Max Nikulin wrote: > On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: > > An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Debian > > Mate, Debian XFCE. > > What issues you have faced trying to ins

boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Mate, XFCE (was: Re: Finding/creating Debian documentation for an unserved audience)

2024-09-24 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/09/2024 04:52, George at Clug wrote: An other example would be to boot Debian Gnome, Debian KDE, and Debian Mate, Debian XFCE. What issues you have faced trying to install multiple desktop environment to the same Debian installation? Display managers allow to select session type

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-03 Thread Richard
I don't even know if I can answer that. As Debian's firmware even in sid is ancient I'm using the ones from kernel.org, so the old firmware can't really be the issue like the gitlab entry suggests. But my issue always was that it only happened when I least expected it. It never was reproducible by

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-03 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Wed Jul 3 11:56:12 2024 Greg Marks wrote: > I'm not sure if this is related, but a couple years ago I had multiple > computer freezes possibly caused by nouveau. The screen froze; the > keyboard and mouse were unresponsive. (If I remember correctly, the > mouse pointer could be moved aroun

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-03 Thread George at Clug
If it is of any interest... Two of us are using AMDGPU for Radeon RX 7700 (one computer) and RX 6600 (four computers). Two computers have XFCE the other have KDE (no Gnome). The Radeon RX 7700 runs Arch Linux, the other Debian 12 (Bookworm), all kept up to date. A while ago we had a few lock

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-03 Thread Franco Martelli
On 02/07/24 at 22:23, Van Snyder wrote: I updated another computer with an NVidia Quadro graphics card. NVidia says the Debian nvidia-driver package works -- but it's not part of the default net-install, and apt-get refuses to install it. And it refuses to install the nvidia-tesla drivers. I ga

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-03 Thread CToID
On 2024-07-03 Wed 19:31 UTC+0800, Richard said: Have the same issue, though it's pretty much impossible to reproduce it reliably. But it seems to be a general issue with the AMDGPU driver in Linux 6.1+: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=292673&p=2

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-03 Thread Richard
Have the same issue, though it's pretty much impossible to reproduce it reliably. But it seems to be a general issue with the AMDGPU driver in Linux 6.1+: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=292673&p=2 It also seems to already have an official tracker: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-02 Thread Greg Marks
> > My problem is that sometimes the screen just freezes entirely, and I have to > > switch to another TTY and back in order to get it unstuck. But the same > > freeze will usually happen again after I get the things unstuck. Restart my > > PC doesn't fix the problem. > > I have a similar problem

Re: Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-02 Thread Van Snyder
On Wed, 2024-07-03 at 03:37 +0800, CToID wrote: > I wonder if any of you who is using an AMD GPU (especially newer > ones) > has encountered the same problem as I do. > > My problem is that sometimes the screen just freezes entirely, and I > have to switch to another TTY and back in order to get

Random freezing on GNOME with AMDGPU

2024-07-02 Thread CToID
meout, signaled seq=4611833, emitted seq=4611836 Jul 02 15:05:02 thinkpad-btw kernel: [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process gnome-shell pid 1731 thread gnome-shel:cs0 pid 1756 Jul 02 15:05:02 thinkpad-btw kernel: amdgpu :c3:00.0: amdgpu: GPU reset begin! Jul 02 15:

Re: Why can't i get gnome extensions installed on bookwork?

2024-06-27 Thread Richard
Wiki-page referenced tells me to install the connector fiorst, but > the latter is installed by default in bookworm. > > Now, i am lost. I thought, in stable, the Fox-esr would be compatible > with the gnome extensions, but it claims, that would not be case. > > What am i missing? > DdB > >

Re: Why can't i get gnome extensions installed on bookwork?

2024-06-27 Thread DdB
Am 27.06.2024 um 19:59 schrieb Dan Ritter: > - GNOME doesn't want to support the extensions. > - Firefox doesn't want to support the extensions. > - Debian doesn't want to support the extensions but provides > the package > -

Re: Why can't i get gnome extensions installed on bookwork?

2024-06-27 Thread Dan Ritter
DdB wrote: > Hello list, > > i am out of luck and into a rabbit hole, please help me out! > > Now, i am lost. I thought, in stable, the Fox-esr would be compatible > with the gnome extensions, but it claims, that would not be case. > > What am i missing? As far as I

Why can't i get gnome extensions installed on bookwork?

2024-06-27 Thread DdB
Hello list, i am out of luck and into a rabbit hole, please help me out! While still running old-old-stable, i am in the process of updating my virtual machines (vbox) first. Struggling with a behavioral change in gnome (On start, it does no longer show desktop 1, but begins in overview-mode

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 22:34:58 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 22:04, David Wright : > > On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > > > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the > > > only) distro

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/06/2024 17:41, Jan Krapivin wrote: Recently i have found out that i am unable to install new extensions with browser plugin "GNOME Shell integration". I have tried different browsers: Firefox stable If snap or flatpak sanboxing is involved then the following may be releva

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread Jan Krapivin
On gnome you can just run $ *gnome-shell --version* пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 22:04, David Wright : > On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the > > only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9,

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread David Wright
On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the > only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9, which is, as i use Debian, my > case. And (maybe) a problem? I searched for gnome in https://packages.debian.

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread Jan Krapivin
Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9, which is, as i use Debian, my case. And (maybe) a problem? пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 20:01, : > Jan Krapivin wrote: > > Thank you for your reply. This topic is not about Debian

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread debian-user
p;redirect=Projects%2FGnomeShellIntegrationForChrome > > I am trying to install Gnome extensions with it. They are also not > Debian packages. > > https://extensions.gnome.org/about/ So maybe a Gnome forum or list or one about the specific plugin or even one about the browser is a better place to look for help than a debian mailing list?

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread Jan Krapivin
tall Gnome extensions with it. They are also not Debian packages. https://extensions.gnome.org/about/ The problem can be reproduced only if you use Gnome. For this you must install a special Gnome *BROWSER* plugin and try to install any Gnome extension. It is not a big deal, as I am still abl

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-06 Thread George at Clug
Hi Jan Krapivin, I am hoping someone can help you with your answer as I do not use Gnome or have much experience with Gnome. Which Debian package or packages are you installing? I found a list of Debian Gnome packages at https://packages.debian.org/stable/gnome/ But I was not able to find a

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-06 Thread Jan Krapivin
Guys, can you please spend 30 seconds and check if it is a universal problem..? чт, 6 июн. 2024 г. в 13:41, Jan Krapivin : > I have a problem with a Gnome browser plugin. I have even created an issue > report (see below). > > Unfortunately I don't know if I am the only one

Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-06 Thread Jan Krapivin
I have a problem with a Gnome browser plugin. I have even created an issue report (see below). Unfortunately I don't know if I am the only one with this problem. If you use Debian 12 stable with Gnome, please let me know about your experience. "Hello! I use Debian 12 stable with

Re: [Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-06-01 Thread songbird
DdB wrote: ... > But i cannot endorse on bookworm without finding alternatives viable to > my handicap. Does that mean, i am back to square one? > Currently, i am 6 years behind (still on debian 10), because i was not > willing to lose functionality i am used to. BTW: the GNOME team d

Re: [Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-06-01 Thread Dan Ritter
> But i cannot endorse on bookworm without finding alternatives viable to > my handicap. Does that mean, i am back to square one? > Currently, i am 6 years behind (still on debian 10), because i was not > willing to lose functionality i am used to. BTW: the GNOME team did that > to

Re: [Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-06-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 11:47:59 +0200 DdB wrote: Hello DdB, >BTW: the GNOME team did that to me repeatedly In fairness, it's not just Gnome that erodes features. TBH, they *all* do it. I've seen features removed from Plasma, Claws Mail, Tellico, loads of stuff. Worst of all is whe

Re: [Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-06-01 Thread DdB
dicap. Does that mean, i am back to square one? Currently, i am 6 years behind (still on debian 10), because i was not willing to lose functionality i am used to. BTW: the GNOME team did that to me repeatedly, which makes me quite unhappy. But i am not familiar with the other desktops, cannot e

Re: [Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-06-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
r input. > In the meantime, i did check for the specific gnome-extensions and > found, that both ere still working fine on bullseye. Thus i decided to > just go the "little step" of moving from debian 10 to 11 for the time > being. No need to mess with my habits in that case.

[Solved]: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-05-31 Thread DdB
Am 31.05.2024 um 12:57 schrieb DdB: > Hello, > > while being on old-old-stable still (buster) and preparing for an > upgrade to bookworm, i noticed, that GNOME once again lost compatibility > to my preferred extensions, giving me a hard choice to either go on with > my outdated

Re: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-05-31 Thread Stefan Monnier
> while being on old-old-stable still (buster) and preparing for an > upgrade to bookworm, i noticed, that GNOME once again lost compatibility > to my preferred extensions, giving me a hard choice to either go on with > my outdated system as long as possible, or find a replacement and

Re: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-05-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 10:03 AM DdB wrote: > > while being on old-old-stable still (buster) and preparing for an > upgrade to bookworm, i noticed, that GNOME once again lost compatibility > to my preferred extensions, giving me a hard choice to either go on with > my outdated sy

Re: What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-05-31 Thread George at Clug
DdB, "What DE to replace GNOME with?" - 'which GUI is your personal preference' is my favourite topic.  Back in the 'old days, I used to study GUIs and write GUI applications to help simplify user experiences. If you like Gnome, would Cinnamon be a good GUI for y

What DE to replace GNOME with?

2024-05-31 Thread DdB
Hello, while being on old-old-stable still (buster) and preparing for an upgrade to bookworm, i noticed, that GNOME once again lost compatibility to my preferred extensions, giving me a hard choice to either go on with my outdated system as long as possible, or find a replacement and change my

Gnome problem occured, system can't recover on testing

2024-04-24 Thread Richard
OR_NULL_POINTER csc_vpnagent[961]: Function: LoadSettingsFromXmlFile File: ../../vpn/PhoneHome/PhoneHomeAgent.cpp Line: 626 Invoked Function: XmlParser::parseFile Return Code: -33554423 (0xFE09) Description: GLOBAL_ERROR_UNEXPECTED gnome-session-binary[1447]: Unrecoverable failure in req

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 13:32:18 +0300 Jan Krapivin wrote: > Small problem is that LTS Kernel 6.1 doesn’t support this device, so > I have used Liquorix kernel, which I have installed earlier. Though, > I don’t need this kernel, as it haven’t helped me with sound > interrupts, which was my hope at fi

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-18 Thread Jan Krapivin
Good news. Looks like I have solved the problem. As a last resort I have bought another one wi-fi receiver, third one. It has *Realtek RTL8763BW* chip and *two antennas*. And finally all works fine. I have spent some hou

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-14 Thread Max Nikulin
On 14/03/2024 19:06, Jan Krapivin wrote: What do you think about QUANT parameter in */pw-top/*? Can it influence sound quality? I wasn't able to change it with pw-metadata -n settings 0 clock.force-quantum 2048 Sorry, my experience with tuning PipeWire is limited to switching audio profile

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-14 Thread Jan Krapivin
> You may try to discriminate hardware/software issues when you comparing > different laptops by booting various live images (GNOME, xfce, etc.). > I will try... Thank you. What do you think about QUANT parameter in *pw-top*? Can it influence sound quality? I wasn't able to chang

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-13 Thread Max Nikulin
due to Mar 11 23:14:11 deb /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1449]: (II) event25 - Haylou W1 (AVRCP): device removed Mar 11 23:14:11 deb pipewire-pulse[1359]: mod.protocol-pulse: client 0x58b39dbbea40 [GNOME Settings]: ERROR command:-1 (invalid) tag:358 error:25 (Input/output error) Mar 11 23:14:11 d

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-13 Thread Jan Krapivin
> Run the command as root, but you already have enough keywords to search > in bug reports and discussions related to PipeWire and pulseaudio. The > latter may have some workarounds for specific models of headphones. Thanks, i will try to research this topic. > PipeWire mailing list or forum ma

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-12 Thread Max Nikulin
On 12/03/2024 03:48, Jan Krapivin wrote: "Mar 11 22:20:13 deb wireplumber[1357]: RFCOMM receive command but modem not available: AT+XIAOMI=1,1,102,85,88,27,174" Just a wild guess, unlikely it is true. Headphones might report battery charge level using a vendor protocol extension. 85 and 88 a

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-12 Thread Max Nikulin
So device disappears for some reason. Perhaps driver receives something unexpected, perhaps headphone do not receive something they expect. Mar 11 23:24:28 deb /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1449]: (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Haylou W1 (AVRCP)" (type: KEYBOARD, id

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-12 Thread Jan Krapivin
It is strange. I can see in a Debian mailing list an answer - *From*: Ottavio Caruso - *Date*: Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:50:45 + "Not sure if this is your case, I had the same problem but I upgraded from 11 to 12. The transition from pulse to pipewire was not smooth. So I nuked anything *pulse* an

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-11 Thread Jan Krapivin
ages. Pass -q to turn off this notice. Mar 11 21:28:16 deb wireplumber[1357]: RFCOMM receive command but modem not available: AT+BTRH? Mar 11 21:28:16 deb wireplumber[1357]: RFCOMM receive command but modem not available: AT+XIAOMI=1,1,102,100,100,27,174 Mar 11 21:29:21 deb systemd[1331]: Sta

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-11 Thread Jan Krapivin
пн, 11 мар. 2024 г. в 07:50, Max Nikulin : > > Are there anything in journalctl output (executed as root) around these > events? > I guess that no, but i will recheck. > Is XFCE configured to use pulseaudio or PipeWire as GNOME? > Pulseaudio > Another option mi

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-11 Thread Max Nikulin
Please, respond to the mailing list. On 11/03/2024 11:50, Max Nikulin wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp Last resort might be dumping bluetooth traffic The link above has an example dumpcap -i bluetooth0 Another tool is hcidump -w /tmp/bt.pcap However at first I wou

Re: Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-10 Thread Max Nikulin
On 10/03/2024 21:07, Jan Krapivin wrote: Hello! I have a problem with sound quality when using bluetooth headphones on Debian 12 GNOME. Every ~20 minutes, sometimes less, sometimes more, sound interrupts for a 1-5 seconds with complete silence. Are there anything in journalctl output

Bluetooth sound problems Debian 12 GNOME

2024-03-10 Thread Jan Krapivin
Hello! I have a problem with sound quality when using bluetooth headphones on Debian 12 GNOME. Every ~20 minutes, sometimes less, sometimes more, sound interrupts for a 1-5 seconds with complete silence. At first I thought that problem can be in the headphones, though it have worked fine with

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-24 Thread Byunghee HWANG
was >>> in place, resulting in NM displaying a question mark. >> Thank you for confirming that this is not a bug. > > I have no idea concerning GNOME in sid, but a KDE applet from > nm-plasma in bookworm is able to react to commands > > ip link set enp0s2 down >

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-24 Thread Max Nikulin
. Thank you for confirming that this is not a bug. I have no idea concerning GNOME in sid, but a KDE applet from nm-plasma in bookworm is able to react to commands ip link set enp0s2 down ip link set enp0s2 up in a VM when the only interface (besides lo) is managed by ifupdown. When the

tree view gone in nautilus (gnome files) for debian ?

2024-02-22 Thread Wim Bertels
Hello, since d12 (at least?) i can no longer view files and directory in a tree view? is this intentional? tnx

Re: rec recording, Re: Upgrade to Bookworm, now GNOME keyring dies …

2024-02-21 Thread Nate Bargmann
mon ran through the > > next hour change and is still running as expected. The man page states > > that the '-f' option matches against the full command line, not just the > > process name. So, looking at the gnome-keyring-daemon command line: > > > >18

rec recording, Re: Upgrade to Bookworm, now GNOME keyring dies …

2024-02-21 Thread David Wright
hat the '-f' option matches against the full command line, not just the > process name. So, looking at the gnome-keyring-daemon command line: > >1857 ?SLsl 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --foreground > --components=pkcs11,secrets --control-directory=/run/use

Re: Upgrade to Bookworm, now GNOME keyring dies--no access to stored SSH key passwords

2024-02-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
Well, it appears like most things in life this one was self inflicted. 🤬 Yesterday I was working on another project and to verify something was occurring the 'strace' utility was recommended. It dawned on me that this could help me get a clue as to what was happening to the gnome-keyr

Re: Emoji broken in gnome-terminal

2024-02-18 Thread Byunghee HWANG
Hellow Ash! On Mon, 2024-02-19 at 11:14 +1300, Ash Joubert wrote: > On 2024-02-19 08:57, Ash Joubert wrote: > > I removed /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf (as root) and ran > > "fc-cache -f" (as user). I still have a few missing emojis in > > xfce4-terminal (flags and combined emojis) but ge

Re: Emoji broken in gnome-terminal

2024-02-18 Thread Ash Joubert
On 2024-02-19 08:57, Ash Joubert wrote: I removed /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf (as root) and ran "fc-cache -f" (as user). I still have a few missing emojis in xfce4-terminal (flags and combined emojis) but geany is fixed. Working test-emoji screenshot attached (xfce4-terminal on sid). 😊

Re: Emoji broken in gnome-terminal

2024-02-18 Thread Ash Joubert
On 2024-02-19 07:08, Ash Joubert wrote: On 2024-02-18 23:33, Byunghee HWANG wrote: On Sun, 2024-02-18 at 16:23 +0900, Byunghee HWANG wrote: I am using Gnome desktop in Debian Sid. Today, after upgrade package via apt update/upgrade, i can not see emoji in gnome-terminal. I am also on sid and

Re: Emoji broken in gnome-terminal

2024-02-18 Thread Ash Joubert
On 2024-02-18 23:33, Byunghee HWANG wrote: On Sun, 2024-02-18 at 16:23 +0900, Byunghee HWANG wrote: Hellow, I am using Gnome desktop in Debian Sid. Today, after upgrade package via apt update/upgrade, i can not see emoji in gnome-terminal. (...) Just now, i did clean-up with screenshots [1],[2

Re: Emoji broken in gnome-terminal

2024-02-18 Thread Byunghee HWANG
On Sun, 2024-02-18 at 16:23 +0900, Byunghee HWANG wrote: > Hellow, > > I am using Gnome desktop in Debian Sid. Today, after upgrade package > via apt update/upgrade, i can not see emoji in gnome-terminal. > > (...) Just now, i did clean-up with screenshots [1],[2],[3]. [1]

Emoji broken in gnome-terminal

2024-02-17 Thread Byunghee HWANG
Hellow, I am using Gnome desktop in Debian Sid. Today, after upgrade package via apt update/upgrade, i can not see emoji in gnome-terminal. Here related screenshot[1]: https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/stuff/-/raw/8bec2cc5d8b9d74438c17b8c202d753b15c09ab6/test-emoji.png Really i would like to solve

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-04 Thread 황병희
Hellow David, On Sun, 2024-02-04 at 13:41 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 04 Feb 2024 at 13:57:13 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 10:41 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > On Fri 02 Feb 2024 at 07:37:34 (+), Tixy wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 22:12 -0600,

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-04 Thread David Wright
On Sun 04 Feb 2024 at 13:57:13 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > On Fri, 2024-02-02 at 10:41 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 02 Feb 2024 at 07:37:34 (+), Tixy wrote: > > > On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 22:12 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Tue 30 Jan 2024 at 07:05:55 (+), Tixy wrot

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-03 Thread 황병희
7;ve seen from the OPs latest reply, the plugin is configured > > to > > not manage interfaces. > > Right, and so the default NM configuration (ifupdown plugin present, > news to me) and   [ifupdown] // managed=false   in the .conf file, > means that NM should not, by default,

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 02 Feb 2024 at 07:37:34 (+), Tixy wrote: > On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 22:12 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > > I also have a more vague memory that you could put config into > > > /etc/network/interfaces then in some circumstance NetworkManager > > > would > > > not try and manage that interfac

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-01 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2024-01-31 at 22:12 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > I also have a more vague memory that you could put config into > > /etc/network/interfaces then in some circumstance NetworkManager > > would > > not try and manage that interface, and in others it would take > > over. > > (Perhaps selected

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-01 Thread David Wright
gt; I would tend to think that: > > > > > > > > . The debian-installer installs ifupdown by default when you don't > > > >   install a Desktop Manager like Gnome, > > > > > > > > . The debian-installer installs NetworkManager by default if

GTK4 with Gnome Builder

2024-02-01 Thread Serkan Kurt
Hello. I'm trying to learn GTK4 programming with Gnome Builder. However, although I can make the applications at " https://docs.gtk.org/gtk4/getting_started.html"; as described, I cannot succeed with gnome-builder. When I replace the "#include " header with the &qu

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-02-01 Thread 황병희
nstalls ifupdown by default when you > > > don't > > >   install a Desktop Manager like Gnome, > > > > > > . The debian-installer installs NetworkManager by default if you > > > do > > >   install a Desktop Manager like Gnome, > > >

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-31 Thread David Wright
On Tue 30 Jan 2024 at 07:05:55 (+), Tixy wrote: > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 23:49 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > I would tend to think that: > > > > . The debian-installer installs ifupdown by default when you don't > >   install a Desktop Manager like Gnome,

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-30 Thread 황병희
(황병희) > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that > > > > time, > > > > Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. > > > > So > > > > after i googling, i removed s

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 23:49 -0600, David Wright wrote: > I would tend to think that: > > . The debian-installer installs ifupdown by default when you don't >   install a Desktop Manager like Gnome, > > . The debian-installer installs NetworkManager by default if you d

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 30 Jan 2024 at 10:13:34 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 09:35 -0600, David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 21:36:39 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > > > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At t

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 10:40 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 30/01/2024 08:21, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > nm-online > > > nmcli > > > nmcli connection > > > nmcli device > > > /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --print-config > > > apt list '~i~nnetwork-manager' > > > > > > E.g. the network-manager-con

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 30/01/2024 08:21, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: nm-online nmcli nmcli connection nmcli device /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --print-config apt list '~i~nnetwork-manager' E.g. the network-manager-config-connectivity-debian package sets connectivity test URI tohttp://network-test.debian.org/nm  see Ne

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 22:17 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 29/01/2024 19:36, Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that > > time, > > Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. > [...] &

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
On Mon, 2024-01-29 at 09:35 -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 21:36:39 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that > > time, > > Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question ma

Re: Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread David Wright
On Mon 29 Jan 2024 at 21:36:39 (+0900), Byunghee HWANG (황병희) wrote: > > For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that time, > Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. So > after i googling, i removed some file in /etc. Then OK! The Internet is &

Q: Gnome network odd

2024-01-29 Thread 황병희
Hellow Debian hackers, For months ago, i did upgrade Debian 12 to Debian Sid. At that time, Gnome network icon was odd. That appered as like question mark. So after i googling, i removed some file in /etc. Then OK! The Internet is started. (i did googling with smartphone). soyeomul@thinkpad

Re: (SOLVED) disable trackpad when mouse is connected (GNOME bug?)

2024-01-25 Thread Keith Bainbridgge
ff. I guess gnome will be similar as it was the basis of cinnamon All the best Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3...@gmail.com +61 (0)447 667 468 UTC + 10:00 On 26/1/24 13:53, Max Nikulin wrote: On 25/01/2024 21:42, Max Nikulin wrote: Try lsusb --verbose --tree I have received a pr

Re: (SOLVED) disable trackpad when mouse is connected (GNOME bug?)

2024-01-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/01/2024 21:42, Max Nikulin wrote: Try     lsusb --verbose --tree I have received a private reply. Please, send messages to the mailing list in such cases. I intentionally combined -vt options and I find output more convenient than for just "lsusb -t". The "-t" option changes behavio

Re: (SOLVED) disable trackpad when mouse is connected (GNOME bug?)

2024-01-25 Thread Max Nikulin
On 25/01/2024 20:42, Henning Follmann wrote: The issue is a usb hub. Somehow GNOME thinks this hub is a mouse. Try lsusb --verbose --tree perhaps somebody plugged in a tiny receiver for a wireless mouse and forgot about it.

(SOLVED) disable trackpad when mouse is connected (GNOME bug?)

2024-01-25 Thread Henning Follmann
ose though. > > Any hints what could be causing this? > > Hello, replying to my own post. The issue is a usb hub. Somehow GNOME thinks this hub is a mouse. -H -- Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com

disable trackpad when mouse is connected (GNOME bug?)

2024-01-24 Thread Henning Follmann
Hello, for a while I am using gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad send-events 'disabled-on-external-mouse' which really worked fine. But since last week this does not work anymore; in the way that the trackpad is always disabled, even when the mouse is not connected. I have to

Re: Gnome shell freezes randomly

2023-12-05 Thread Franco Martelli
from suspend I think is related to nouveau driver, I fixed it restarting the window compositor (I'm using Picom) every time I awake the system from suspend with a shell script. Of course I've disabled the KDE Kwin_x11 system compositor, sorry but I don't know nothing about

Re: Gnome shell freezes randomly

2023-11-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I get the same thing, every now and then default gnome desktop freezes. For me the mouse also freezes. About 20 minutes ago I discovered when I physically disconnected my tethered mobile phone, the desktop unfroze. I've also achieved the unfreeze with disconnecting my laptop from the thunde

Gnome shell freezes randomly

2023-11-28 Thread Marlin
I have been experiencing random lockups of gnome-shell ever since I did a new install of bookworm sometime in July. When I say lockup/freeze, I mean that the mouse cursor still moves on the display, but I can not click anything. The rest of the system is not frozen. I can ssh into it. Yesterday

Gnome shell freezes randomly

2023-11-28 Thread Marlin
I have been experiencing random lockups of gnome-shell ever since I did a new install of bookworm sometime in July. When I say lockup/freeze, I mean that the mouse cursor still moves on the display, but I can not click anything. The rest of the system is not frozen. I can ssh into it. Yesterday

Re: Modify user PATH in GNOME in Debian 12

2023-11-25 Thread Max Nikulin
nager. Nowadays it is Gnome and GDM.

Re: Modify user PATH in GNOME in Debian 12

2023-11-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 10:28:13AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > SDDM does read /etc/profile and ~/.profile when starting a user session: > https://sources.debian.org/src/sddm/0.20.0-1/data/scripts/Xsession/ Interesting. I wondered whether that might be a Debian patch, since I couldn't see mention

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