Joel Roth writes:
>
> I would be interested in having a summary.
>
> For my purposes, I use startx, and 'man startx' tells me to
> put my initializations in .xinitrc, and does not refer
> to any other init files.
>
> I used to have an .xsession file, which eventually stopped
> working.
>
> 'man
Brian wrote:
> On Wed 04 Jun 2014 at 23:56:37 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
> > Brian wrote:
> >
> > > Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with
> > > uncomplicated correct information.
> >
> > The 'startx' is basically the "simple" way to start X and to use the
> > syst
On Wed 04 Jun 2014 at 23:56:37 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>
> > Those who use startx etc have some expectation of being provided with
> > uncomplicated correct information.
>
> The 'startx' is basically the "simple" way to start X and to use the
> system supplied defaults. Which is
On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 12:26:15 +0200
David Dušanić wrote:
> I think at this point I link you to my fonts how-to for Debian
> (Openbox).
>
> http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=196047#p196047
Very, very nice article. Very clearly written. I'm going to try this
tomorrow. Thanks so much.
On Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:40:54 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:10:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 May 2014 17:11:16 +1200
> > Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > ... no HDMI cable, doesn't play .webm videos. You have to use youtube-dl
> > > not 'cclive -s best' to downl
Brian wrote:
> The fact though is that most users do not avoid startx or a
> DM. Anyone who uses xinit has gone to some trouble to avoid either
> of these two ways of getting X running. You would expect them to
> know what they are doing.
But people using xinit have not gone to any trouble to avoi
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 09:10:53AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 17:11:16 +1200
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> > ... no HDMI cable, doesn't play .webm videos. You have to use youtube-dl
> > not 'cclive -s best' to download the video from youtube yielding in
> > a 'lower quality' exoerien
Bob Proulx writes:
>
> I recommend using .Xresources loaded into the xrdb at start time. It
> makes the most general sense to me. That way customizations are a
> property of your $DISPLAY and not a property of your $HOME. But
> either works if you understand the search and merge order.
>
> Bob
On Tue 03 Jun 2014 at 13:45:14 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file.
> >
> >brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/
> >/etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources
> >/etc/X11/Xsession:USRRESOURCES=$HOME/.Xresources
>
> True. But that is the d
Brian wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Brian wrote:
> > > I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default
> > > install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user
> > > would have to put in the extra effort to use .Xdefaults- or,
> > > if they know it is possi
On 2014-06-02 18:33:30 +0100, Brian wrote:
> Fair enough. Now, if only users were advised to use .Xdefaults-
> or .Xresources. Instead the choice is always .Xdefaults or .Xresources.
> As I think we are agreed, one of these doesn't work. Ok, it can be made
> to work; for example I've seen linking .
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 16:27:22 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2014-06-02 14:11:03 +0100, Brian wrote:
> > I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default
> > install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user
> > would have to put in the extra effort to use
On 2014-06-02 14:11:03 +0100, Brian wrote:
> I looked in the place that startx and the DMs look with a default
> install of X. Which is not to deny your valid point. However. a user
> would have to put in the extra effort to use .Xdefaults- or,
> if they know it is possible, a .Xresources directory
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 12:38:20 +0200, David Dušanić wrote:
> 01.06.2014, 19:21, "Brian" :
> > On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200
> >> David Dušanić wrote:
> >>> I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this
> >
On Mon 02 Jun 2014 at 10:04:29 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2014-06-01 16:14:24 +0100, Brian wrote:
> >
> > Debian doesn't use a .Xdefaults file.
> >
> >brian@desktop:~$ grep -r Xresources /etc/X11/
> >/etc/X11/Xsession:SYSRESOURCES=/etc/X11/Xresources
> >/etc/X11/Xsession:USRR
01.06.2014, 19:21, "Brian" :
> On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200
>> David Dušanić wrote:
>>> I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this
>>> e.g.:
>>>
>>> Xft.autohint: 0
>>> Xft.antialias: 1
>>> Xft.hintin
> You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can
> I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file?
> I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a config file, not a directory.
Yes, the slash meant either/or. Xdefaults is the older way of doing it, I still
On 2014-06-01 16:14:24 +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 10:48:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can
> > I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file?
> > I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a
On Saturday 31 May 2014 00:31:35 Chris Angelico wrote:
> But if you have just 1GB, or 768MB, or 256MB, or
> whatever figure, can you still run a default Debian?
Do you mean with GNOME3? Of course not!! But surely choosing your desktop
isn't that big a deal. I install with LXDE, and add Trinity
On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 13:09:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200
> David Dušanić wrote:
> >
> > I would make an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in your home folder with this
> > e.g.:
> >
> > Xft.autohint: 0
> > Xft.antialias: 1
> > Xft.hinting: true
> > Xft.hintstyle: hintsl
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 13:09:11 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200
> David Dušanić wrote:
>
> > 31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" :
> > > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> > > Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > >> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> >
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200
David Dušanić wrote:
> 31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" :
> > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> > Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> >> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a
> >
On Sun 01 Jun 2014 at 10:48:17 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> You mention making an .Xdefaults/.Xresources in my home directory. Can
> I safely assume the slash meant either/or, rather than directory/file?
> I already had a .Xdefaults, but it was a config file, not a directory.
>
> I added your lines
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 07:54:50 -0400
Pete Orrall wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> > Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >
> >> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> >> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don'
On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 13:18:11 +0200
David Dušanić wrote:
> 31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" :
> > On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> > Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> >> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a
> >
On Sat, 31 May 2014 17:11:16 +1200
Chris Bannister wrote:
...
> ... no HDMI cable, doesn't play .webm videos. You have to use youtube-dl
> not 'cclive -s best' to download the video from youtube yielding in
> a 'lower quality' exoerience. Putting all that aside, it's basically
Can you explain?
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> Tony Baldwin wrote:
>
>> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
>> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,
>> which I think JWM has by default.
>
> You'
31.05.2014, 18:59, "Steve Litt" :
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
>> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,
>> which I think JWM has by default.
>
> You're just the person
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 12:59:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> Tony Baldwin wrote:
>
> > Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> > manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,
> > which I think JWM has by defaul
On Sat, 31 May 2014 12:59:06 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
> Tony Baldwin wrote:
>
> > Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> > manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,
> > which I think JWM has by default.
>
On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 08:51 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,
> which I think JWM has by default.
Correct, JWM e.g. provides a panel by default, OTOH JWM anyway needs
l
On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:51:13 -0400
Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Sawfish and openbox, even metacity would fit in this last "just
> manages windows" category, and, in fact, don't even include a panel,
> which I think JWM has by default.
You're just the person I need to talk to, Tony. Right now I've swit
On Fri, 2014-05-30 at 12:54 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> Who cares if "it's a DE" or not if it does all one expects from one?
I don't care and btw. I don't claim that JWM is a DE. The discussion
started about "speed". I don't think it was about a quick startup, but
about a "fast" GUI performa
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 01:04:16 +1000
Chris Angelico wrote:
> Thanks. I looked up Wikipedia quickly but couldn't find it.
wikipedia isn't the only information source :)
Anyway, video broadcast formats are quite a mess as
there isn't only one format per standard :( Take a
look at: http://www.videot
On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:00 AM, Bzzz wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 00:54:45 +1000
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> It's S-Video driving a PAL TV, so it's 576 lines of... uhh... and
>> this is where I demonstrate utter lack of knowledge of TV specs,
>
> 720x576
Thanks. I looked up Wikipedia quickly but
On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 00:54:45 +1000
Chris Angelico wrote:
> It's S-Video driving a PAL TV, so it's 576 lines of... uhh... and
> this is where I demonstrate utter lack of knowledge of TV specs,
720x576
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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> On Sb, 31 mai 14, 09:31:35, Chris Angelico wrote:
>>
>> No no, I was thinking more of <1GB as "starved". Even for rescaling
>> video on the fly (as often happens - the files come at whatever
>> resolution they're at, and they're all played i
On Sb, 31 mai 14, 09:31:35, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
> No no, I was thinking more of <1GB as "starved". Even for rescaling
> video on the fly (as often happens - the files come at whatever
> resolution they're at, and they're all played in full-screen mode),
I'm assuming 640x480 (since you mention
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 02:09:53PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2014 10:38:50 +0200
> "Gian Uberto Lauri" wrote:
>
> > David Dušanić writes:
> >
> > > Ok, we have to be even more correct on this, even JWM is just a
> > > window manager.
> >
> > One may agree with the precision o
AFAIK WindowMaker can be part o a GNUStep DE.
I started using it for the reduced colormap (useful with 256 colors), but now I
am addicted to its rainbow patterns :D
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Messaggio inviato da un tablet
> On 30/mag/2014, at 20:09, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> On Fri, 30 May 2014 10:38
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 11:27:12PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Specs would be nice, but I think the processor and/or video card is
> doing all the heavy lifting in such a case. Having dedicated video RAM
> is usually a plus, but I had something like this running on a PIII 500
> MHz with 768 M
On Sat 31 May 2014 at 09:31:35 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Brian wrote:
> >
> > What work has it done? It needs 2.5 GB of disk space and has two or
> > three WM's and a couple of file managers. Plus libreoffice. I think
> > AntiX is quite a nice distro but do y
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Fri 30 May 2014 at 03:00:21 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt
>> wrote:
>> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it every
>> > time. CLI Network install works with almost no
On Fri 30 May 2014 at 03:00:21 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it every
> > time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and granular
> > choices of things to install guaran
On Vi, 30 mai 14, 20:20:32, Gour wrote:
>
> However, some people believe that DE is somehow connected with the bloat
> where specific DE forces one to install tons of apps no matter whether
> one likes/needs them or not.
Yes, that is the generally accepted definition of a Desktop Environment.
K
On Fri 30 May 2014 at 14:09:53 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> I guess what I'm saying is this: I know KDE is a Desktop Environment,
> and I know that JWM is a Window Manager, but with anything between
> those extremes, I don't know what to call it, and I guarantee you that
> if I call it one or the
Tony Baldwin writes:
> I would say you've misunderstood something.
I believe I didn't. ;)
> A window manager manages windows.
Correct.
> Tiling has nothing to do with the definition of a DE or WM.
I believe I never did imply that tiling is any in any way related to DE.
My point was simply t
On Fri, 30 May 2014 10:38:50 +0200
"Gian Uberto Lauri" wrote:
> David Dušanić writes:
>
> > Ok, we have to be even more correct on this, even JWM is just a
> > window manager.
>
> One may agree with the precision of your classification.
>
> Or the same one may increase confusion by (rightfu
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:50:22AM +0200, Gour wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf writes:
>
> > If so, then still resizing and moving windows by the mouse is missing,
>
> This is also possible...
>
> > assumed even this isn't missing, then it's not a tiling WM anymore.
>
> ...but not to the extent that til
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 08:49:01AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 29 mai 14, 23:07:40, Gour wrote:
> > Ralf Mardorf writes:
> >
> > > A tiling WM isn't a DE.
> >
> > Can you tell me what is missing?
>
> - file manager
> - text editor
> - image viewer
> - terminal emulator
> - etc.
>
> (
On Friday 30 May 2014 10.23:42 David Dušanić wrote:
> 29.05.2014, 23:19, "Ralf Mardorf" :
> > On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 23:07 +0200, Gour wrote:
> >> Ralf Mardorf writes:
> >>> A tiling WM isn't a DE.
> >>
> >> Can you tell me what is missing?
> >>
> >> It has status bar, systray, launcher, worksp
29.05.2014, 23:19, "Ralf Mardorf" :
> On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 23:07 +0200, Gour wrote:
>> Ralf Mardorf writes:
>>> A tiling WM isn't a DE.
>> Can you tell me what is missing?
>>
>> It has status bar, systray, launcher, workspaces...ability to launch
>> specific app in a specific workspace. Ther
David Dušanić writes:
> Ok, we have to be even more correct on this, even JWM is just a
> window manager.
One may agree with the precision of your classification.
Or the same one may increase confusion by (rightfully) asserting that
depending on user skills and habits, a WM and shell may be al
29.05.2014, 23:07, "Gour" :
> Ralf Mardorf writes:
>> A tiling WM isn't a DE.
>
> Can you tell me what is missing?
>
> It has status bar, systray, launcher, workspaces...ability to launch
> specific app in a specific workspace. There is upcoming feature to save
> one's layout.
>
> Sincerely,
> Go
29.05.2014, 22:27, "Gour" :
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>> If there's a lighter weight DE I'd like to know.
>
> http://i3wm.org/
>
> Sincerely,
> Gour
i3 is not a desktop environment. ;)
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On Vi, 30 mai 14, 09:09:39, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> LXDE's component for input only has two sliders (translated from
> Romanian):
> 1. acceleration
> 2. sensitivity
... and a check box for left handed use
> I'd see it as a bug if
> - the initial values for these are not taken from X settin
On Fri, 30 May 2014, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it
> > every time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and
> > granular choices of things to install guarantees I'll have
On Jo, 29 mai 14, 18:36:09, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:02:06 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Jo, 29 mai 14, 13:04:13, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > LXDE has an (all other things being equal) slow mouse that's
> > > disturbing,
> >
> > Mouse speed can be adjusted.
>
> How? Reme
On Jo, 29 mai 14, 23:07:40, Gour wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf writes:
>
> > A tiling WM isn't a DE.
>
> Can you tell me what is missing?
- file manager
- text editor
- image viewer
- terminal emulator
- etc.
(just have a look through the dependencies of lxde and lxde-core)
Basically a bunch of tools
On Jo, 29 mai 14, 22:39:24, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 22:26 +0200, Gour wrote:
> > Andrei POPESCU writes:
> >
> > > If there's a lighter weight DE I'd like to know.
> >
> > http://i3wm.org/
>
> A tiling WM isn't a DE.
I'd say that a WM (whether tilling or not) is not a DE.
K
Ralf Mardorf writes:
> If so, then still resizing and moving windows by the mouse is missing,
This is also possible...
> assumed even this isn't missing, then it's not a tiling WM anymore.
...but not to the extent that tiling does not work.
Moreover, every Tiling WM I was using so far had the
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 01:04:13PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> By the way, no matter what DE/WM I'm using, I *always* install Xfce
> just to get xfburn, xfce4-appfinder, and a few other priceless apps. I
I find that mp3burn and wodim cater for all my 'burning' desires. :)
DE, WM, X, not required.
On 30 May 2014 08:36, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:02:06 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>> On Jo, 29 mai 14, 13:04:13, Steve Litt wrote:
>> > LXDE has an (all other things being equal) slow mouse that's
>> > disturbing,
>>
>> Mouse speed can be adjusted.
>
> How? Remember, I'm talk
On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:27:12 +0300 Andrei POPESCU sent:
> I've just recently replaced Windows XP on a 512 MB RAM laptop with
> stable (default LXDE install, minimal adjustments). The owner was
> very pleased with the feel of the new system and I can attest it felt
> usable to me as well. Youtube
On Thu, 29 May 2014 23:02:06 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 29 mai 14, 13:04:13, Steve Litt wrote:
> > LXDE has an (all other things being equal) slow mouse that's
> > disturbing,
>
> Mouse speed can be adjusted.
How? Remember, I'm talking speed, not acceleration. When you up the
acceler
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:26:56PM +0200, Gour wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>
> > If there's a lighter weight DE I'd like to know.
>
> http://i3wm.org/
Looks kind of like ion3, which I LOVED and used until Tuomo went to the
darkside.
Ion3 was pure genius, IMHO.
We have Tritium http://tritium
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 03:00:21AM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it every
> > time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and granular
> > choices of things to install gua
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 23:07 +0200, Gour wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf writes:
>
> > A tiling WM isn't a DE.
>
> Can you tell me what is missing?
>
> It has status bar, systray, launcher, workspaces...ability to launch
> specific app in a specific workspace. There is upcoming feature to save
> one's lay
Ralf Mardorf writes:
> A tiling WM isn't a DE.
Can you tell me what is missing?
It has status bar, systray, launcher, workspaces...ability to launch
specific app in a specific workspace. There is upcoming feature to save
one's layout.
Sincerely,
Gour
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On Fri, 30 May 2014 03:00:21 +1000
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it
> > every time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and
> > granular choices of things to install guaran
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 22:26 +0200, Gour wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>
> > If there's a lighter weight DE I'd like to know.
>
> http://i3wm.org/
A tiling WM isn't a DE.
Regarding to this https://l3net.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/cmp-all4.png
comparing MB, JWM is as lightweight as i3, but th
On Vi, 30 mai 14, 03:00:21, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it every
> > time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and granular
> > choices of things to install guarantees I'll h
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> If there's a lighter weight DE I'd like to know.
http://i3wm.org/
Sincerely,
Gour
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On Jo, 29 mai 14, 13:04:13, Steve Litt wrote:
> LXDE has an (all other things being equal) slow mouse that's
> disturbing,
Mouse speed can be adjusted.
> and a recent encounter tells me LXDE isn't as lightweight as everyone
> thinks.
If there's a lighter weight DE I'd like to know.
Kind regar
On Thu, 29 May 2014 19:32:01 +0200
"Ralf Mardorf" wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2014 19:04:13 +0200, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > Tony, do you know of any documentation or other evidence of how
> > Openbox, Xfce, LXDE, IceWM, and fvwm2 stack up against each other as
> > far as "lightness"?
>
> What's your
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2014 03:00:21 +1000
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt
>> wrote:
>> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it
>> > every time. CLI Network install works with almost
On Fri, 30 May 2014 03:00:21 +1000
Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it
> > every time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and
> > granular choices of things to install guaran
On Thu, 29 May 2014 19:04:13 +0200, Steve Litt
wrote:
Tony, do you know of any documentation or other evidence of how
Openbox, Xfce, LXDE, IceWM, and fvwm2 stack up against each other as
far as "lightness"?
What's your definition of lightness?
WM/DE Memory (MB):
https://l3net.files.wordpress
On Thu, 29 May 2014 06:27:50 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 20:15 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > jwm, openbox, wmii, tritium, etc., are window managers that might
> > reduce your load.
>
> Correct, however, it doesn't matter if you run JWM or KDE4, when just
> using a browser,
On Wed, 28 May 2014 20:15:32 -0400
Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Any distro you strip down to basics will be faster.
> It depends on what you run on it.
> I have Debian with openbox, no DE, and it flies at warp speed
> (esp. on my desktop, 4x2.8ghz with 16gb ram), but also on an old Dell
> d420 laptop I
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> When I have an extremely RAM starved computer, I put Debian on it every
> time. CLI Network install works with almost no RAM, and granular
> choices of things to install guarantees I'll have a small system.
How RAM-starved can you put Debian on
On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:24:32 -0700
tom arnall wrote:
> debian over ubuntu hands down for speed and for efficient resources
> utilization. it's a harder install, but for me well worth the extra
> work.
Also, Debian is more configurable with Vim, doesn't require you to
install a GUI, and has less
2014-05-29 7:08 GMT+02:00 Ralf Mardorf :
> On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 06:43 +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> > 2014-05-29 6:27 GMT+02:00 Ralf Mardorf :
> > On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 20:15 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > > jwm, openbox, wmii, tritium, etc., are window managers that might
> > > reduce your lo
On Thu, 2014-05-29 at 06:43 +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 2014-05-29 6:27 GMT+02:00 Ralf Mardorf :
> On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 20:15 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > jwm, openbox, wmii, tritium, etc., are window managers that might
> > reduce your load.
>
>
> Correct, however, it doe
2014-05-29 6:27 GMT+02:00 Ralf Mardorf :
> On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 20:15 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > jwm, openbox, wmii, tritium, etc., are window managers that might reduce
> > your load.
>
> Correct, however, it doesn't matter if you run JWM or KDE4, when just
> using a browser, on an averaged
while it might start tons more unneeded services, than
Debian does, assumed your Debian does use SysVinit. 32-bit packages are
better optimized to modern CPUs by Ubuntu, than Debian packages.
> On 1/24/14, tom arnall wrote:
> > I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for
On Wed, 2014-05-28 at 20:15 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> jwm, openbox, wmii, tritium, etc., are window managers that might reduce
> your load.
Correct, however, it doesn't matter if you run JWM or KDE4, when just
using a browser, on an averaged dual-core machine. There won't be
noticeable performa
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 02:24:32PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> debian over ubuntu hands down for speed and for efficient resources
> utilization. it's a harder install, but for me well worth the extra
> work.
>
> On 1/24/14, tom arnall wrote:
> > I am looking for the fa
debian over ubuntu hands down for speed and for efficient resources
utilization. it's a harder install, but for me well worth the extra
work.
On 1/24/14, tom arnall wrote:
> I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following purposes.
>
>
> System:
>
> Dell la
Le 27.01.2014 18:09, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Sb, 25 ian 14, 11:16:45, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 25.01.2014 07:02, Zenaan Harkness a écrit :
>I hear rumours that with a modern PeeCee with fast graphics card,
>running a compositing "3D" window manager can be higher performance
On Sb, 25 ian 14, 11:16:45, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 25.01.2014 07:02, Zenaan Harkness a écrit :
>
> >I hear rumours that with a modern PeeCee with fast graphics card,
> >running a compositing "3D" window manager can be higher performance
> >than our old window managers, since the
On Vi, 24 ian 14, 21:21:03, tom arnall wrote:
>
> how does icewm compare to xfce and lxde?
I've used IceWM in the past and would recommend LXDE to replace it. It
adds more features without sacrificing much speed.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Pete Orrall wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:17 PM, tom arnall
> wrote:
> > I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following
> > purposes.
>
> > Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of
> > it.
>
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:17 PM, tom arnall wrote:
> I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following purposes.
> Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it.
>
> Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I run Debian Wheezy with a sto
> On Jan 27, 2014, at 6:09 AM, "Jeff Bauer" wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>>> On 01/25/2014 05:17 AM, tom arnall wrote:
>>> Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it.
>>> Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
I had similar issues and that's one of the reasons why
On 01/25/2014 05:17 AM, tom arnall wrote:
Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it.
Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
As the automotive mechanic said to the (pick your least favorite
make/model car) owner:
"I'd suggest you jack up the gas cap a
On 01/25/2014 05:17 AM, tom arnall wrote:
Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it.
Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
What actions are slow?
- boot time?
- window switch?
- application launch?
- web page rendering?
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On Sat, January 25, 2014 9:17 am, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, tom arnall wrote:
>
>> I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following purposes.
>>
>>
>> System:
>>
>> Dell latitude D630
>> dual core
>> 2g memory
Le 25.01.2014 14:08, Klaus Jantzen a écrit :
To conclude this long mail, I will give you a link:
http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php
This is a website which will asks you the same questions as me, plus
some others, and which will give you some hint about what distro
could
be the good on
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 18:17:34 -0800
tom arnall wrote:
> I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following purposes.
>
>
Did you try the tinycore distribution?
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