On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 10:56:55AM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> FWIW, I still use apt-get instead of aptitude on my Sid machine. With recent
> apt versions in sid, I don't think there is a difference between apt-get
> and aptitude in terms of how they resolve dependencies (someone please
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:00:22 -0800
Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
[snip]
> > I only use apt-get when I need to install from the source (which aptitude
> > cannot do).
>
> I wonder why that is; the source packages are independe
ing packages) I came across
> synaptic in the KDE menus. Tried it, and liked using it. So now I'm
> wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to anyonne)
> which is the preferred way of installing software?
>
FWIW, I still use apt-get instead of aptitude on my Sid
On 20 Aug 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:20:51AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
>
> > I ditched aptitude a couple of years ago in favour of wajig. I'm willing
> > to believe that most or even all of the problems I had with aptitude
> > were my own fault, but wajig is b
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 01:04:15PM +0200, Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby wrote:
> In _my_ opinion:
> Installing and using a distribution implies using its package manager.
> Or, if you dont want that, install LFS.
> Packaging is one of the strength of Linux distributions over than other
> OS.
> B
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:20:51AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I ditched aptitude a couple of years ago in favour of wajig. I'm willing
> to believe that most or even all of the problems I had with aptitude
> were my own fault, but wajig is brilliant IMO and I don't find a need
> for anythin
bian-user list for a bit, and I've noticed that
suggestions given are to use the apt-* suite or aptitude to managing
packages. While setting things up (and installing packages) I came across
synaptic in the KDE menus. Tried it, and liked using it. So now I'm
wondering according t
On Aug 20, 2007, at 12:05 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:
There's "Undo" (Ctrl-U) before pressing g and "Cancel Pending Actions"
(in menu "Actions") that can be used after the first g.
Is this what you need?
It seems like I tried 'Cancel Pending Actions' once and it didn't
seem to do anything, bu
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
> I'm also curious about what problems other people are having with
> aptitude.
aptitude is slow on simple searches (so I use apt-cache for those), but
the patterns are much more powerful.
> --
> * However, I never do anyth
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 10:40:43AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
>
> On Aug 19, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> There were
>> frequent posts to the list like "Aptitude wants to remove 150
>> packages!!!". They were using the CLI and didn't get the detailed
>> explanation from aptitude
On Aug 19, 2007, at 1:08 PM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
There were
frequent posts to the list like "Aptitude wants to remove 150
packages!!!". They were using the CLI and didn't get the detailed
explanation from aptitude that they would from the curses interface.
Dumb question: Is there a way to
Hi Mumia,
On 8/19/07, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* However, I never do anything at the command line that hasn't been
> verified as safe. I always use the curses interface to find out what is
> going to happen before I enter a command at the command line.
Well, that's a valuable advis
Hi Douglas,
On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If you mix with apt-get ...
>
> ... This leads to the cruft buildup that
> aptitude is suposed to help you prevent.
I remember a thread some time ago that just pointed out not to mix apt-get
with aptitude.
The other problem i
On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 14:10 -0400, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Hi all,
Hi you
> More generally, is there a document/web page that explains what are the
> preferred packages and what is the "Debian Way" of doing things.
In _my_ opinion:
Installing and using a distribution implies using its package ma
On 19 Aug 2007, Ken Irving wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
>
> I haven't tried aptitude for some time, and apparently the problem I
> had with it (where it wanted to remove a lot of stuff) has been fixed.
> I think that, even before that fix, it would work reaso
On 08/19/2007 05:00 PM, Ken Irving wrote:
[...]
I haven't tried aptitude for some time, and apparently the problem I
had with it (where it wanted to remove a lot of stuff) has been fixed.
I think that, even before that fix, it would work reasonably (i.e., no
surprises) as long as it was used exc
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 01:30:28AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 22:06:29 +, s. keeling wrote:
> The problem is this: If you install the "kde" (or "gnome") metapackage
> with aptitude then all the other KDE (Gnome) packages are marked as
> "automatically installed" be
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 22:06:29 +, s. keeling wrote:
[...]
> For current stable/Etch, aptitude is recommended, but many still stick
> with apt-get.
>
> The biggest problem I've noticed is "aptitude remove blah" where
> "blah" is some KDE or Gnome app, tends to want to blow away
> *everythin
s. Tried it, and liked using it. So now
> I'm wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to
> anyone) which is the preferred way of installing software?
All of them work; dselect, apt-get, aptitude, and synaptic. I prefer
not to use something which expects X t
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 03:31:19PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 08/19/2007 02:25 PM, Manon Metten wrote:
>> Hi Douglas,
>> On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
>>> people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get ins
On 08/19/2007 02:25 PM, Manon Metten wrote:
Hi Douglas,
On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
curses interface.
Are you saying I should NOT u
Mark Neidorff wrote:
So now I'm
wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to anyonne)
which is the preferred way of installing software?
The one your comfortable with. aptitude is recommended mainly because it
is a best of breed of the CLI package tools. Th
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 09:25:15PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote:
> On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
> > people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
> > curses interface.
>
> Are you sayi
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 02:35:18PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> The release notes state that aptitude is the preferred package
> management tool since it takes care of automatically installed pacakges
Nitpick: aptitude is recommended because it handles complex dependencies
better. The autom
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 09:25:15PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi Douglas,
>
> On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
> > people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
> > curses interface.
Hi Douglas,
On 8/19/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Note that many of the horror stories about aptitude involved
> people using it as a CLI replacement for apt-get instead of using its
> curses interface.
Are you saying I should NOT use aptitude as a replacement for
apt-get, li
synaptic in the KDE menus. Tried it, and liked using it. So now I'm
> wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to anyonne)
> which is the preferred way of installing software?
>
> More generally, is there a document/web page that explains what are the
&
ackages. While setting things up (and installing packages) I came across
> synaptic in the KDE menus. Tried it, and liked using it. So now I'm
> wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to anyonne)
> which is the preferred way of installing software?
>
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:10:27 -0400
Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Mark,
> More generally, is there a document/web page that explains what are
> the preferred packages and what is the "Debian Way" of doing things.
One of the reasons that the apt-* suite is recommended is that, sho
ame across synaptic in the KDE menus. Tried it, and liked using
> it. So now I'm wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect
> intended to anyonne) which is the preferred way of installing
> software?
>
> More generally, is there a document/web page that exp
I came across
> synaptic in the KDE menus. Tried it, and liked using it. So now I'm
> wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no disrespect intended to anyonne)
> which is the preferred way of installing software?
>
> More generally, is there a document/web page that expl
it, and I've noticed that
suggestions given are to use the apt-* suite or aptitude to managing
packages. While setting things up (and installing packages) I came across
synaptic in the KDE menus. Tried it, and liked using it. So now I'm
wondering according to Debian Wisdom (no
On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 07:27:27PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote:
| On Sun, 2001-10-14 at 18:54, dman wrote:
| > On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 12:45:05AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
| > | Previously dman wrote:
| > | > Related to that, is SSL support for galeon/mozilla packaged for Debian
| > | > now?
On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 09:27:45PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
| * dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.15 09:54:08-0400]:
| > Yeah, but they get mailed back periodically anyways. I don't choose a
| > "real" password for mailing lists. Not a big deal because links-ssl
| > works :-).
|
| don't wor
* dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.15 09:54:08-0400]:
> Yeah, but they get mailed back periodically anyways. I don't choose a
> "real" password for mailing lists. Not a big deal because links-ssl
> works :-).
don't worry, i have deconfigured this...
--
martin; (greetings from the
%% dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
d> | > | one last thing: the list is of course archived:
d> | > | http://lists.madduck.net/pipermail/debian-wisdom/
d> | >
d> | > Any reason for using mailman for the list but pipermail for the
d> | > arch
27;t choose a
"real" password for mailing lists. Not a big deal because links-ssl
works :-).
| > | one last thing: the list is of course archived:
| > | http://lists.madduck.net/pipermail/debian-wisdom/
| >
| > Any reason for using mailman for the list but pipermail for th
Apologies - sent the above before tweaking Gnus posting styles ;-( too
keen to join in!
Glyn
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* Here we are then... *
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* dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.10.14 18:41:26-0400]:
> Any reason for using https instead of http?
passwords are involved. that's the reason.
> | one last thing: the list is of course archived:
> | http://lists.madduck.net/pipermail/debian-wisdom/
>
> Any reason
On Sun, 2001-10-14 at 18:54, dman wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 12:45:05AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> | Previously dman wrote:
> | > Related to that, is SSL support for galeon/mozilla packaged for Debian
> | > now?
> |
> | Has been for some time now.
>
> Which package(s)? Galeon gives n
On Mon, Oct 15, 2001 at 12:45:05AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
| Previously dman wrote:
| > Related to that, is SSL support for galeon/mozilla packaged for Debian
| > now?
|
| Has been for some time now.
Which package(s)? Galeon gives no response when trying an https URL,
and I didn't see any
Previously dman wrote:
> Related to that, is SSL support for galeon/mozilla packaged for Debian
> now?
Has been for some time now.
> Any reason for using mailman for the list but pipermail for the
> archives? IMO mailman makes really nice archives.
pipermail is the mailman archiving backend.
W
On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 09:56:51PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
[ list at https://lists.madduck.net/mailman/listinfo/debian-wisdom ]
Any reason for using https instead of http? Related to that, is SSL
support for galeon/mozilla packaged for Debian now? I saw some old
messages in archives
one last thing: the list is of course archived:
http://lists.madduck.net/pipermail/debian-wisdom/
let's go!
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initially, i called it debian-offtopic, but -wisdom is more spiffy,
don't you think? anyway, before we make the list official, let's see
how well it works.
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