On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 1:58 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> On Ma, 11 aug 20, 15:33:53, Javier Barroso wrote:
> >
> > I swiched from aptitude to apt-get/apt some years ago
> >
> > aptitude need love :(
> >
> > My problem was mixing 64 and 32 bits packages. Seem aptitude didn't do a
> > good job
> >
On Ma, 11 aug 20, 15:33:53, Javier Barroso wrote:
>
> I swiched from aptitude to apt-get/apt some years ago
>
> aptitude need love :(
>
> My problem was mixing 64 and 32 bits packages. Seem aptitude didn't do a
> good job
>
> Reading Planet debian and transitions and apt-listbugs (or how It is
El mar., 11 ago. 2020 13:31, Andrei POPESCU
escribió:
> On Vi, 07 aug 20, 13:31:53, Default User wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Recently there was a thread about aptitude dependency resolution
> > limitations.
>
> If you are referring to the limitations of 'aptitude why', this 1)
> reverse dependen
On Vi, 07 aug 20, 13:31:53, Default User wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> Recently there was a thread about aptitude dependency resolution
> limitations.
If you are referring to the limitations of 'aptitude why', this 1)
reverse dependency and 2) apt / apt-get don't even have (an equivalent
for) this.
On Sat, 08 Aug 2020 13:06:50 +0200
Johann Klammer wrote:
> On 08/07/2020 10:10 PM, Joe wrote:
> > On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:31:53 -0400
> > Default User wrote:
> >
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> Recently there was a thread about aptitude dependency resolution
> >> limitations.
> >>
> >> Years ago, I be
On 08/07/2020 10:10 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:31:53 -0400
> Default User wrote:
>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> Recently there was a thread about aptitude dependency resolution
>> limitations.
>>
>> Years ago, I believe I read in the Debian documentation that aptitude
>> was preferred to apt-ge
* 2020-08-07 20:04:24-03, riveravaldez wrote:
> On Friday, August 7, 2020, Joe wrote:
>> I believe it is still aptitude.
>>
>> However, the length of time it takes increases sharply with number of
>> packages to be upgraded. If you have more than a hundred or so, (not
>> unusual on unstable) it m
On Friday, August 7, 2020, Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:31:53 -0400
> Default User wrote:
>> So, all other things being equal, which is currently considered to be
>> the best at dependency resolution?
>
> I believe it is still aptitude.
>
> However, the length of time it takes increases sha
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 13:31:53 -0400
Default User wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> Recently there was a thread about aptitude dependency resolution
> limitations.
>
> Years ago, I believe I read in the Debian documentation that aptitude
> was preferred to apt-get, because it seemed to have better dependency
Hey guys,
Recently there was a thread about aptitude dependency resolution
limitations.
Years ago, I believe I read in the Debian documentation that aptitude was
preferred to apt-get, because it seemed to have better dependency
resolution.
Now, we have apt, as well.
So, all other things being e
On Sunday 13 October 2013 18:44:51 Frank McCormick wrote:
> Aptitude has been refusing to do a full upgrade on my Jessie
> system for the past two weeks because it said it needed
> xorg-video-abi-12 but it said it is not installable. Well, not so.
> I tried running Synaptic this morning and it ha
On Saturday 12 October 2013 06:45:15 Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> Tom H writes:
> >>> Have you filed a bug report about aptitude breaking apt
> >>> (whatever that means!) or is this just FUD?
> >>
> >> No, I have not. Because it is normal aptitude's behaviour.
> >>
> >> It was a cognitive case...
> >
>
Le 25.10.2013 15:30, Joel Rees a écrit :
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:26 PM,
wrote:
Le 23.10.2013 14:22, Joel Rees a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:47 AM,
wrote:
Le 22.10.2013 23:01, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2
Le 23.10.2013 14:22, Joel Rees a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:47 AM,
wrote:
Le 22.10.2013 23:01, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 19:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
[...]
Even inlined code requires resources to execute.
Le 23.10.2013 04:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/22/2013 8:47 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 22.10.2013 23:01, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 19:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo
On 10/22/2013 8:47 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 22.10.2013 23:01, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 19:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:22,
Le 22.10.2013 23:01, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 19:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo.
On 10/22/2013 10:01 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-21, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
COBOL is still used, but tend to disappear, you can like it or not. I
COBOL programs are in use globally in governmental and military
agencies and in
commercial enterprises, and
On 10/21/2013 5:40 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 21.10.2013 22:23, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/21/2013 3:49 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 19.10.2013 04:48, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrot
On 10/21/2013 5:26 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 19:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, J
Curt wrote:
On 2013-10-21, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
COBOL is still used, but tend to disappear, you can like it or not. I
COBOL programs are in use globally in governmental and military agencies and
in
commercial enterprises, and are running on operating systems such as IBM'
On 2013-10-21, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
>
> COBOL is still used, but tend to disappear, you can like it or not. I
COBOL programs are in use globally in governmental and military agencies and in
commercial enterprises, and are running on operating systems such as IBM's z/OS
and z
Le 21.10.2013 22:23, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/21/2013 3:49 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 19.10.2013 04:48, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again,
Le 18.10.2013 19:36, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually l
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
the changes are that the stuff that must work best, is NOT being done
as open source or with particular transparency. At best, we can hope
for serious design reviews and testing - not always the case.
Which takes us back to a pretty good case for professi
On 10/21/2013 3:49 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 19.10.2013 04:48, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percent
Le 19.10.2013 04:48, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanill
Le 21.10.2013 19:46, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
That's why some professions have needs for legal stuff. We can not
really compare a doctor with the usual computer scientist, right?
And I said "usual", because most of us do not, and will never
work, on stuff
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
That's why some professions have needs for legal stuff. We can not
really compare a doctor with the usual computer scientist, right?
And I said "usual", because most of us do not, and will never work,
on stuff which can kill someone. And when we do, verific
Le 18.10.2013 20:24, Joe a écrit :
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:36:13 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 04:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
>
> I'm pretty sure that C was NOT written to build operating systems
-
> though it's been used for that (notably Unix).
I never said
Le 19.10.2013 01:10, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 16:22, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
(though it's pretty hard to get hired for anything in the US
without a bachelorate in something)
I do not think it can be worse than in France.
Ok. I wasn't s
[How about being a bit more proactive with the trimming, guys.]
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 02:19:13PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Take windows, and say honestly that it does not contains
> applications? explorer, mspaint, calc, msconfig, notepad, etc. Those
> are applications, noth
On 10/19/2013 3:50 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
...snip..
Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers,
mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term
"Engineer" is what is illeg
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 07:04:21AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
...snip..
>
> Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers,
> mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term
> "Engineer" is what is illegal. Check with your state licensing
> boa
Since there's only two of you participating in this (OT) sub thread now,
perhaps you could take it off list?
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:00 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
propert
On 10/18/2013 11:02 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 7:24 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I'd simply make the observation that most SQL queries are generated on
the fly, by code - so the notion of building SQL requests to "experts"
is a non-starte
On 10/18/2013 11:00 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying hard
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not th
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 7:24 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I'd simply make the observation that most SQL queries are generated on
the fly, by code - so the notion of building SQL requests to "experts"
is a non-starter. Someone has to write the code that in turn
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying hardware.
And... when actually packaging code for
On 10/18/2013 7:33 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not that I like it, but it d
On 10/18/2013 7:24 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
I'd simply make the observation that most SQL queries are generated on
the fly, by code - so the notion of building SQL requests to "experts"
is a non-starter. Someone has to write the code that in turn generates
SQL requests
On 10/18/2013 6:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying hardware.
And... when actually packaging code for compilation and/or ins
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not that I like it, but it does seem to be a fact of life). A lot of
peo
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 10:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok. But
some people consider that it includes various other tools which does
not require hardware accesses. I spoke about graph
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 16:22, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
(though it's pretty hard to get hired for anything in the US
without a bachelorate in something)
I do not think it can be worse than in France.
Ok. I wasn't sure about that, though France does seem as creden
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/18/2013 11:48 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
In the REAL world, program behavior is very much driven by the
properties of underlying hardware.
And... when actually packaging code for compilation and/or installation
- you need to know a lot about what
On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:36:13 +0200
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 18.10.2013 04:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that C was NOT written to build operating systems -
> > though it's been used for that (notably Unix).
>
> I never said I agreed that C was designed to
On 10/18/2013 1:10 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but
Le 18.10.2013 17:22, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard
smart
pointers in C++, I tend t
On 10/18/2013 12:11 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 3:57 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Do you know how the SQL database you're using works?
Sure do. Don't you?
I know how the interface works. Actually, I do know quite a bi
Le 18.10.2013 17:50, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
And, again, just a guess, but I'm guessing the huge percentage of
programmers these days are writing .NET code on vanilla Windows
machines
(not that I like it, but it does seem to be a fact of life). A lot
of
people also seem to be writing stored SQ
On 10/17/2013 10:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok. But
some people consider that it includes various other tools which does
not require hardware accesses. I spoke about graphical applications,
and
Le 18.10.2013 17:54, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/17/2013 8:31 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 17.10.2013 21:57, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 3:57 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Do you know how the SQL database you're using works?
Sure do. Don't you?
I know how the interface works. Actually, I do know quite a bit about
the internals of how it works. But do
Le 18.10.2013 16:22, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
But now, are most programmers paid by societies with hundreds of
programmers?
(and whether you actually mean "developer" vs. "programmer")
I do not see the difference between those words. Could you give me
the nuances please? I still have a lot t
On 10/17/2013 8:31 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 17.10.2013 21:57, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use s
On 10/17/2013 3:57 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Do you know how the SQL database you're using works?
Sure do. Don't you?
I know how the interface works. Actually, I do know quite a bit about
the internals of how it works. But do you know how it parse
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/17/2013 11:37 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:56, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
You're the one who said programmers need to know a lot of details
about the hardware being used, not me. The more you need to know
about different hardware, the harder
On 10/17/2013 12:42 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had so much troubles with them,
On 10/17/2013 11:37 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:56, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
You're the one who said programmers need to know a lot of details
about the hardware being used, not me. The more you need to know
about different hardware, the harder it is to write code t
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 18.10.2013 04:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok.
But some people consider that it includes various other tools
which does not require hardware accesses. I
Le 18.10.2013 04:32, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok.
But some people consider that it includes various other tools which
does not require hardware accesses. I spoke about graphical
applications,
> On 18 Oct 2013, at 05:51, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> What's wrong with htonl and other similar functions/macroes?
They are pretty good when they fit what you want to do, but there are holes: eg
convert big endian source to host layout. Note that the glibc implementation
uses cpp conditionals
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:29:33PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>> Speaking about endianness, it really is hard to manage:
>>
>> void myfunction( ... )
>> {
>> #ifdef BIG_ENDIAN
>> move_bytes_in_a_specific_order
>> #else
>> move_bytes_in_the_other_specif
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
So, what you name an OS is only drivers+kernel? If so, then ok. But
some people consider that it includes various other tools which does
not require hardware accesses. I spoke about graphical applications,
and you disagree. Matter of opinion, or maybe I
Le 17.10.2013 21:57, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard
smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had s
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had so much troubles with
them,
so now I only use the
> On 17 Oct 2013, at 17:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> I do not understand why?
> In both cases with "decent compilers" it is solved at compile-time, so what
> is the problem with preprocessor here? In case BIG_ENDIAN is not defined but
> should be?
For the reason I wrote:
> ot
Le 17.10.2013 18:17, Jonathan Dowland a écrit :
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:29:33PM +0200,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Speaking about endianness, it really is hard to manage:
void myfunction( ... )
{
#ifdef BIG_ENDIAN
move_bytes_in_a_specific_order
#else
move_bytes_in_the_other_specif
Le 16.10.2013 17:51, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
I only know few people who actually likes them :)
I liked them too, at a time, but since I can now use standard smart
pointers in C++, I tend to avoid them. I had so much troubles with
them,
so now I only use them for polymorphism and sometimes RTTI.
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 05:29:33PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Speaking about endianness, it really is hard to manage:
>
> void myfunction( ... )
> {
> #ifdef BIG_ENDIAN
> move_bytes_in_a_specific_order
> #else
> move_bytes_in_the_other_specific_order
> #endif
> }
Bad way to man
Le 16.10.2013 17:56, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
You're the one who said programmers need to know a lot of details
about the hardware being used, not me. The more you need to know
about different hardware, the harder it is to write code to fit all
of
that hardware.
I did not said "a lot" but bas
Le 16.10.2013 16:42, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C,
or .NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is
going
to run in, much less
On 10/16/2013 5:38 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 16 October 2013 16:27:00 Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course
hours be outside of your major.
Which is to say: "Which is also why the Universities *in the USA*
require..."
Lisi
Yup, U
On Wednesday 16 October 2013 16:27:00 Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >> Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course
> >> hours be outside of your major.
Which is to say: "Which is also why the Universities *in the USA*
require..."
Lisi
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On 10/16/2013 12:27 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/16/2013 7:15 AM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
outside of your major.
Huh!!?? I think you may be
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/16/2013 7:15 AM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle
wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
outside of your major.
Huh!!?? I think you may be referring to distribution requirements and
you
On 10/16/2013 9:01 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C, or .NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is going
to run in, much less general analytic and desig
On 10/16/2013 8:19 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 03:25, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Ah, but you are more than a "simple user".
I guess so. I am not even a TV user anymore in fact, but that's not the
question.
The point is that I can hardly consider a programmer to be a sim
On 10/16/2013 7:15 AM, Darko Gavrilovic wrote:
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
outside of your major.
Huh!!?? I think you may be referring to distribution requirements and
you might mean 1/4 of you
On 10/16/2013 12:16 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF strips
in your TV? The frequencies of the local oscillator(s) being used?
How the RF signal is
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C, or
.NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is going
to run in, much less general analytic and design skills, is going to
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Try again. States do not differentiate between civil engineers,
mechanical engineers, etc. and other engineers. Use of the term
"Engineer" is what is illegal. Check with your state licensing board.
The three states I've checked (Maryland, Texas and North Carolina) are
Le 16.10.2013 13:04, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Anybody who thinks that being able to write code (be it Java, C, or
.NET
crap), without knowing a lot about the environment their code is
going
to run in, much less general analytic and design skills, is going to
have a very short-lived career.
An
Le 16.10.2013 08:24, Erwan David a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:10:42AM CEST,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org said:
Le 15.10.2013 19:32, Chris Bannister a écrit :
>On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200,
>berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>>I know I wont teach that to anyone here, b
Le 16.10.2013 03:25, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Ah, but you are more than a "simple user".
I guess so. I am not even a TV user anymore in fact, but that's not the
question.
The point is that I can hardly consider a programmer to be a simple
user of a computer, because when you write a program, y
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:46:48PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Chris Bannister wrote:
> >On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
> >wrote:
> >>I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not
> >>computing stuff, at all. They are simply here to transfo
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
> Which is also why Universities require about 3/4 of the course hours be
> outside of your major.
>
Huh!!?? I think you may be referring to distribution requirements and
you might mean 1/4 of your "course hours". It's a distribution
require
On 10/15/2013 11:37 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 6:50 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a "coder"? In over 40 years of programming, I'
On 10/16/2013 12:16 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Or do you just turn it on and watch your favorite show?
Kinda helps to know how to wire together all the various pieces that
go with a TV these days- cable connection
snip
Of course you can call up the local Best Buy and
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:10:42AM CEST, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org said:
>
>
> Le 15.10.2013 19:32, Chris Bannister a écrit :
> >On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 03:43:21PM +0200,
> >berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> >>I know I wont teach that to anyone here, but modems are not
> >>computing stuf
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF strips
in your TV? The frequencies of the local oscillator(s) being used?
How the RF signal is demodulated? How the video and audio are
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 6:50 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a "coder"? In over 40 years of programming, I've met many
programmers, but no "coders". Some
On 10/15/2013 6:42 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Sorry for the broken thread. Let me try this again.
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a "coder"? In over 40 years of programming, I've met many
pr
On 10/15/2013 7:39 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Sorry for the broken thread. Let me try this again.
Le 15.10.2013 18:28, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF
On 10/15/2013 7:40 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 15.10.2013 18:28, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
Why? Do you know how a TV signal is encoded at the station? How it
is modulated onto the carrier? The operation of the RF and IF strips
in your TV? The frequencies of the local oscillat
On 10/15/2013 6:50 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 10/15/2013 2:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Geeze Jerry, you're just so wrong, on so many things.
What's a "coder"? In over 40 years of programming, I've met many
programmers, but no "coders". Some were better than othe
Le 16.10.2013 00:42, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
I'm trying to figure out what kinds of things you see "programmers"
working on that don't need serious knowledge of the underlying
operating system, computer hardware, and i/o environment.
I do not think every programmer needs serious knowledge outs
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