Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Monte Milanuk wrote: > On 12/17/2012 08:03 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: >> >> >> I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides >> installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, >> service management/c

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Monte Milanuk
On 12/17/2012 08:03 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall configuration. It a bit like Webmin or AIX's SMIT (YAST

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 17 dec 12, 16:17:56, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? Kids, don't try this at home: dpkg-reconfigure --all Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/li

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012 schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan: > is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? > > Thanks You might want to try "webmin" and/or "usermin". But it is no more in the debian repositories. I guess, no debian-developer took a look at it

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:36:33 -0800 Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Hasler > wrote: > > --Dave writes: > >> I have to find myself asking the question, "Why on Earth would the > >> maintainers not keep such a valuable package available?" > > > >

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM, John Hasler wrote: > --Dave writes: >> I have to find myself asking the question, "Why on Earth would the >> maintainers not keep such a valuable package available?" > > And

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread John Hasler
--Dave writes: > I have to find myself asking the question, "Why on Earth would the > maintainers not keep such a valuable package available?" -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread David Guntner
David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > Kelly Clowers grabbed a keyboard and wrote: >> Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does. >> >> I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides >> installation/removal of software, it does

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread David Guntner
Kelly Clowers grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > Aptitude is nice, but it only does one fraction of what YAST does. > > I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides > installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, > service management/configuration

RE: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Mark Allums
Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Davide Mirtillo wrote: >> Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto: >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: >>>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >>>>> is t

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread John Hasler
Kelly writes: > I am not sure of the full extent of YAST, but besides > installation/removal of software, it does at least account management, > service management/configuration (DNS, mail, etc) and firewall > configuration. That should not be all in one program. -- John Has

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Davide Mirtillo wrote: > Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto: >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: >>> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >>>> is there any too

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 15:26 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface > > to manage the server. > > "pseudo-graphical" does mean "ncurses", > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncu

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 16:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > instead of x server, admins can use a pseudo-graphical user interface > to manage the server. "pseudo-graphical" does mean "ncurses", http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ncurses , then you should take a look at "dpkg-reconfigure", as I've w

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Davide Mirtillo
Il 17/12/2012 12:57, Muhammad Yousuf Khan ha scritto: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >>> is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? >> >> For those of us unfamiliar

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-12-17 at 11:18 +, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > > is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? > > For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you > explain the particular featur

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: >> is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? > > For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you > explain the particular featur

Re: Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:17:56PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote: > is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? For those of us unfamiliar with what Yast is or does now, can you explain the particular features you are looking for? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Yast for debian

2012-12-17 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
is there any tool equivalent to yast in Debian? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGWVfM=xQfSjtYKnZ9aMTPaUFeANaRo_-epAZ

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:16:11 -0600, Monique Y. Mudama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2004-07-29, John Summerfield penned: > > > > Somehow I thought the Red Hat tools were working spectacularly well in > > Knoppix which most see as a debian derivitive. > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't thin

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 14:11, Paul Johnson wrote: >> What's wrong with discover? Nobody has answered that. What is wrong >> with discover? Why does everybody ignore discover? > > Well, Visa and MasterCard are accepted more places than Discover. Plus > t

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 14:11, Paul Johnson wrote: > What's wrong with discover? Nobody has answered that. What is wrong > with discover? Why does everybody ignore discover? Well, Visa and MasterCard are accepted more places than Discover. Plus the Retailer fee much higher than the Visa or Master

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Paul Johnson
Scott Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Look,I'm not saying the YaST is great or perfect. But, I've tried 8 or 10 > different distros, and the one thing that many do better that Debian is > manage and configure hardware from a central location. Whether it's &g

RE: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Scott Thompson
<> Look,I'm not saying the YaST is great or perfect. But, I've tried 8 or 10 different distros, and the one thing that many do better that Debian is manage and configure hardware from a central location. Whether it's Mandrake's HardDrake or Redhat/Fedora's Kudzu

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 01:54:21AM -0700, Alvin Oga wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > > IBM has a patch for Netvistas (diskless workstations). Most of the patch > > involves a Netvista graphic and, I think, a progress meter. > > for regular distro boots... > > suse has a bo

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Jim Bailey
on their own. ;) The posters original desire was for something in the Debian installer to auto-detect hardware the way Yast does. The Debian devs on the thread linked to were primarily concerned with the way Yast deals with configuration files. IMHO the Debian installer deals poorly with auto-d

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > IBM has a patch for Netvistas (diskless workstations). Most of the patch > involves a Netvista graphic and, I think, a progress meter. for regular distro boots... suse has a bootup progress meter, forgot if fedora has or not ( f2 to toggle between

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya john On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > >specifially, i'll be looking for showing the penguin on bootups > >and also just the "horizontal progress bar" instead of the silly > >boot messages and background logo on the whole background > > > > > > The penguin (or other logo)

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread John Summerfield
Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya john On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: specifially, i'll be looking for showing the penguin on bootups and also just the "horizontal progress bar" instead of the silly boot messages and background logo on the whole background The penguin (or other logo)

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya john On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > >thought (claus)knoppix also modified kudzu to knoppix to detect its hw > > > I'm sure Klaus Knopper made some changes, but for sure he didn't do it > from scratch. If you care enough, have a look at the source code he offers. yeah ...

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-29 Thread John Summerfield
Alvin Oga wrote: hi ya john On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: thought (claus)knoppix also modified kudzu to knoppix to detect its hw I'm sure Klaus Knopper made some changes, but for sure he didn't do it from scratch. If you care enough, have a look at the source code he off

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Alvin Oga
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > The hardware detection in RHL is done by Kudzu thought (claus)knoppix also modified kudzu to knoppix to detect its hw and he's got soem good fancy color bootup screen .. :-) which probably also helps in its appeal to some folks c ya alvin -- T

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread John Summerfield
Alvin Oga wrote: On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Summerfield wrote: The hardware detection in RHL is done by Kudzu thought (claus)knoppix also modified kudzu to knoppix to detect its hw I'm sure Klaus Knopper made some changes, but for sure he didn't do it from scratch. If you care enough, h

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread John Summerfield
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2004-07-29, John Summerfield penned: Somehow I thought the Red Hat tools were working spectacularly well in Knoppix which most see as a debian derivitive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Knoppix supports nearly the number of architectures that Debian d

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-07-29, John Summerfield penned: > > Somehow I thought the Red Hat tools were working spectacularly well in > Knoppix which most see as a debian derivitive. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Knoppix supports nearly the number of architectures that Debian does. -- monique Ask sma

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread John Summerfield
Paul Johnson wrote: Scott Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Does anyone know if there are any official or third party plans to develop a version for Debian. I think you missed April Fools Day by a few months. I can't see anything that YaST can do that $EDITOR and discover

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Klaus Imgrund
On Wednesday 28 July 2004 06:14 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > Jim Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Though to be honest I use > > Gentoo live CD because of > > its EVMS package to carve up scsi arrays before > > installs. > > http://www.funroll-loops.org/ > Gentoo considered hella-stoopid. Oh - m

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Simon Kitching
On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 10:13, Paul Johnson wrote: > Scott Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Does anyone know if there are any official or third party plans to develop a > > version for Debian. > > I think you missed April Fools Day by a few months. >

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Jim Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Though to be honest I use Gentoo live CD > because of its EVMS package to carve up scsi arrays before installs. http://www.funroll-loops.org/ Gentoo considered hella-stoopid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Scott Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know if there are any official or third party plans to develop a > version for Debian. I think you missed April Fools Day by a few months. I can't see anything that YaST can do that $EDITOR and discover doesn'

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Juha Siltala
debian-devel/2004/03/msg01387.html> > for details. Only if it's removed from SuSE at the same time -- that way I could switch from Debian to SuSE. :) YaST is horrible because if you use it to configure something, it mangles the config files beyond recognition for humans,

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Jim Bailey
On Jul 28, 04:55, Florian Ernst wrote: > Hello! > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:44:49AM -0500, Scott Thompson wrote: > > Does anyone know if there are any official or third party plans to develop a > > version for Debian. > > Please see >

Re: Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello! On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:44:49AM -0500, Scott Thompson wrote: > Does anyone know if there are any official or third party plans to develop a > version for Debian. Please see and the discussion starting at

Any chance of Debian adding YaST

2004-07-28 Thread Scott Thompson
I have both Debian and SuSE installed on my computer. The one thing I really like about SuSE are the YaST components related to hardware setup (not the components related to software installation). YaST has some very simple and easy tools to set up firewalls, edit and reload bootloaders, make

Re: YaST

2004-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])[20040319 22:49]: >> Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really >> > liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing >> > servi

Re: YaST

2004-03-21 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED])[20040319 22:49]: > Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really > > liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing > > services. > > > > Is there any discussion on Debian an

Re: YaST

2004-03-19 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really > liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing > services. > > Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv

Re: YaST

2004-03-19 Thread glenn
ditto - I used to use suse 5.2 & 5.3 - before trying redhat & mdk & settling here. Don't remember why I changed from suse (just to check the hype around rh i think) but I've missed YaST ever since. Though I notice I dont seem to miss it as much in debian as I did in RH, pe

Re: YaST

2004-03-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:55:29PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > I'm not familiar enough with the YaST inner workings to know how it > might manage the differences in file locations because of the Debian > Policy. I think anyone who packaged YaST for Debian would have to make it f

Re: YaST

2004-03-19 Thread Tom Allison
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. I just filed an Intent To Package it. Interesting. I'm not familiar enough with the YaST inner workings to know how it might manage the differences in file locations because of the Deb

Re: YaST

2004-03-19 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Tom Allison wrote: > I guess the news is out. > SuSE's YaST is going GPL this year. > > > http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top > > > I've used it and found it a pretty decent tool. Me too. > I'm curious to hear

YaST

2004-03-19 Thread Tom Allison
I guess the news is out. SuSE's YaST is going GPL this year. http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top I've used it and found it a pretty decent tool. I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. (Perens is quoted as Debian adoption might