Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/09/2024 14:53, Thomas Schmitt wrote: i wrote: I let xorriso-dd-target use bs=1M oflag=dsync Max Nikulin wrote: May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash erasure block size is much larger? [...] My concern is wearing, Is there evidence that sync size a sma

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-06 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/09/2024 14:53, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Jeff wrote: I've run into this situation (more than once)... `dd` fails to write a bootable image with a block size of 1M. But using a block size of 512 results in a bootable image. It used to happen regularly on arm dev boards, like BeagleBoards and Cu

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > I let xorriso-dd-target use > >bs=1M oflag=dsync Max Nikulin wrote: > May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash erasure > block size is much larger? [...] My concern is wearing, Is there evidence that sync size a smaller than such an internal size i

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 10:51 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 05/09/2024 16:25, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > I let xorriso-dd-target use > >bs=1M oflag=dsync > > May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash > erasure block size is much larger? I have seen claims that it can be

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/09/2024 16:25, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I let xorriso-dd-target use bs=1M oflag=dsync May too small bs value cause write multiplication if internal flash erasure block size is much larger? I have seen claims that it can be e.g. 12M

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread tomas
On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 11:25:33AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > This is exactly why I'm always trying to "sell" the "oflag=sync" option of > > dd. You are going to write each block exactly once, then plop the medium > > out. So whithout, it'll take you 10 sec,

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-05 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > This is exactly why I'm always trying to "sell" the "oflag=sync" option of > dd. You are going to write each block exactly once, then plop the medium > out. So whithout, it'll take you 10 sec, with it'll take you as much. But > it's more transparent with, because with

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread tomas
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 08:31:09PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 08:30:03PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > This is exactly why I'm always trying to "sell" the "oflag=sync" option of > > dd [...] > It's a waste of time but if you make it happy you do you. Please

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/09/2024 00:11, The Wanderer wrote: On 2024-09-02 at 12:51, Lee wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: MS-Windows can eject a stick ? [...] (Sorry i could not refrain from this nonsense :)) but it isn't nonsense. Welcome to the world of Windowz, where one 'ejects

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 08:30:03PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:49:03PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:11:24PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of > a USB flash drive, as being

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Franco Martelli wrote: > I was testing the procedure in a virtual machine, the first "gpg --keyserver > keyring.debian.org ..." command fails because I hadn't imported the public > keys. Hm. I expected that --keyserver keyring.debian.org would avoid the need for importing keys to the local

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Franco Martelli
On 03/09/24 at 18:45, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, due to popular resistence i created a new wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/VerifyISOImage with the content which i would propose to https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify Regrettably i was unable to mimick the bullet list paragraphs of the F

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Max Nikulin wrote: > "shellcheck -e SC2006" (to silence complains concerning ``) suggests double > quotes around "$file" > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head -1 | > awk '{print $1}'` Indeed. Some variable evaluations slipped through unquoted. Two others are

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 12:57:52 +, David wrote: > On Wed, 4 Sept 2024 at 11:03, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > In /tmp/check_debian_iso line 153: > > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head > > -1 | awk '{print $1}'` > >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread David
On Wed, 4 Sept 2024 at 11:03, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > In /tmp/check_debian_iso line 153: > sum_from_file=`dd if=$file bs=2048 count=$blocks | $checksummer | head > -1 | awk '{print $1}'` > ^---^ SC2086 (info): Double quote to prevent

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/09/2024 15:17, Thomas Schmitt wrote: I tried "*" for bullet list. But it works only for a single line, not for a multi-line text paragraph as on https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify I do not see anything special there. I have tried to convert to a bullet a random paragraph from the n

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Max Nikulin wrote: > Do you mean something like > ? > * Item > {{{ > code > }}} I tried "*" for bullet list. But it works only for a single line, not for a multi-line text paragraph as on https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify I wr

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/09/2024 23:45, Thomas Schmitt wrote: due to popular resistence i created a new wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/VerifyISOImage [...] Regrettably i was unable to mimick the bullet list paragraphs of the FAQ Do you mean something like

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-03 Thread eben
On 9/3/24 01:07, David Wright wrote: Well, I might expect you to use a command something like: # dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/stdout count=N | sha512sum This is the default for dd, so you don't have to specify it. I mean, it doesn't hurt i

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-03 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, due to popular resistence i created a new wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/VerifyISOImage with the content which i would propose to https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify Regrettably i was unable to mimick the bullet list paragraphs of the FAQ, so that i had to change the text for a more

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-03 Thread Franco Martelli
Hi, On 02/09/24 at 22:32, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Franco Martelli wrote: What you wrote in that section it's so searched/wanted by newcomers that it's a pity that it's published as a section into "XorrisoDdTarget". Actually it is not the first time that i felt the urge to describe the SHA

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Sep 2024 at 11:16:53 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 09:58:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/09/2024 03:32, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Franco Martelli wrote: consider to move that to a new wiki page with a title that sounds like: "Verify authenticity of a Debian downloaded ISO image". [...] But i think there are some issues to address: - How to generally advertise this page ? Link

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Franco Martelli wrote: > What you wrote in that section it's so searched/wanted by newcomers that > it's a pity that it's published as a section into "XorrisoDdTarget". Actually it is not the first time that i felt the urge to describe the SHA and PGP verification: https://wiki.debian.org/

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread eben
On 9/2/24 13:11, The Wanderer wrote: I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of a USB flash drive, as being 'umount /path/to/mount/location' - which, if I'm not mistaken, does include an implicit sync operation. Thunar has "Safely Remove", which not only does sync

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Franco Martelli
On 02/09/24 at 13:01, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i added a new section https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget#How_to_verify_the_result instead of a mere link because i deem the Debian instructions too scattered for being suitable for already puzzled and stressed users. I would appreciate che

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:49:03PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:11:24PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of > > a USB flash drive, as being 'umount /path/to/mount/location' - which, if > > I'm not mistak

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 01:11:24PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: I have always treated the *nix equivalent to "eject", for the purpose of a USB flash drive, as being 'umount /path/to/mount/location' - which, if I'm not mistaken, does include an implicit sync operation. Yes. Windows actually does h

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread The Wanderer
On 2024-09-02 at 12:51, Lee wrote: > On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Lee wrote: >> >>> Oops.. I wrote to the stick using the Cygwin cp on an >>> MS-Windows machine, so I'm guessing the damage was done even >>> before ejecting the stick. >> >> MS-Windows can ej

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Lee
On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 5:25 AM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > Lee wrote: > > Oops.. I wrote to the stick using the Cygwin cp on an MS-Windows > > machine, so I'm guessing the damage was done even before ejecting the > > stick. > > MS-Windows can eject a stick ? > xorriso silently fails to do so

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
> That sounds like really bad hardware. Mind to share manufacturer name > and model name ? > > (I have a 2 GB Intenso model "USB", a 4 GB SanDisk Cruzer, > a 8 GB Corsair Flash Voyager, and a 128 GB Intenso Ultra Line. > They all are more than 5 years old. I use them rarely, except for the > Cor

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 05:20:41PM +0200, Hans wrote: So your command line would read … # … … Cheers, David. I believe, instead of using dd for copying to the usb-stick, one might want to use dcfldd for it. dcfldd is en enhanced version of dd with hashsum check during copy. It was created

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 09:58:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/08/2024 14:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget Disclaimer: I prefer non-destructive way of making bootable media. For UEFI it is just copying files, for BIOS it requires some commands like syslinux and editing of grub configuration. Perhaps I just have not

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > What I meant is more a desciption, > why xorriso-dd-target is better than dd or dcfldd. xorriso-dd-target is effectively a frontend to lsblk, umount, and dd. Insofar i deem dd to be sufficient but not necessarily superior to other programs which can copy data to a USB stick or m

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
> I've had some thumb drives die and that might be the cause. Have you noticed > any patterns? > > -- > Your pretended fear lest error might step in is like the man who > would keep all wine out of the country lest men should be drunk. >-- Oliver Cro

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread eben
On 9/2/24 07:23, Hans wrote: A little side effect of this was, that some manufacturers obviously do not like ext2/3/4 format (to which the usb-stick were reformatted). After about 10th to 15th time of reformate, they died (memory segments got lost). Others I already during years are reformatted a

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
Hi Thomas, > That's the actual topic of that wiki page. > Just scroll up and read it from start. maybe I did not express myself well enough. What I meant is more a desciption, why xorriso-dd-target is better than dd or dcfldd. Just a little comparision, which advantages your way got or disadva

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Hans wrote: > Maybe you might want to add a suggestion for readers, which might be the > best way, to get an ISO to an usb-stick? That's the actual topic of that wiki page. Just scroll up and read it from start. > The debian manual suggests using the "dd" command and claims, not to use > Ru

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Hans
Am Montag, 2. September 2024, 13:01:43 CEST schrieb Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > i added a new section > https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget#How_to_verify_the_result > instead of a mere link because i deem the Debian instructions too > scattered for being suitable for already puzzled and stress

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i added a new section https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget#How_to_verify_the_result instead of a mere link because i deem the Debian instructions too scattered for being suitable for already puzzled and stressed users. I would appreciate checkreading of this new section by interested bys

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote about https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/CreateUSBMedia : > - It does not mention that superuser powers are needed for copying > to /dev/sdX and that a wrong substitute for X can spoil a big > spinning disk if present. I did not pay enough attention to the preamble, which war

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-02 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > >https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget Max Nikulin wrote: > Is there a reason why the page is not cross-linked with > ? After skimming over that page, i see problems: - It links to https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-i

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Lee wrote: > Oops.. I wrote to the stick using the Cygwin cp on an MS-Windows > machine, so I'm guessing the damage was done even before ejecting the > stick. MS-Windows can eject a stick ? xorriso silently fails to do so: xorriso -outdev stdio:/dev/sdc -eject out (Sorry i could not refr

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Max Nikulin wrote: > Thomas, are you intentionally linking raw man page instead of a > formatted > one [[DebianMan:xorriso-dd-target|xorriso-dd-target(1)]]? Once it was intentional, when the package was only in Debian Testing and no Debian online man page existed. Now i changed it to your lin

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Lee
On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 5:00 PM Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > Lee wrote: > > [...] I'd spin my wheels trying to > > figure out what's wrong and not too much later say f*kkit and boot off > > my just written USB drive. > > [...] > > $ check_debian_iso SHA512SUMS debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso /d

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Max Nikulin
On 31/08/2024 14:07, Thomas Schmitt wrote: i add my two cents: https://wiki.debian.org/XorrisoDdTarget Thomas, are you intentionally linking raw man page instead of a formatted one [[DebianMan:xorriso-dd-target|xorriso-dd-target(1)]]? Is there a reason why the page is not cross-linked wit

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread David Christensen
On 9/1/24 06:15, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 01:19:45 -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 8/31/24 23:16, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:15 PM David Christensen wrote: On 8/30/24 20:48, John Conover wrote: What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do w

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Lee wrote: > [...] I'd spin my wheels trying to > figure out what's wrong and not too much later say f*kkit and boot off > my just written USB drive. > [...] > $ check_debian_iso SHA512SUMS debian-12.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso /dev/sdb > ... > 661651456 bytes (662 MB, 631 MiB) copied, 7.11874 s, 92

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Lee
On Sun, Sep 1, 2024 at 10:59 AM David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2024-09-01 12:06 (UTC-0500): > On Sun 01 Sep 2024 at 17:20:41 (+0200), Hans wrote: >>> So your command line would read … >>> >>> # … … >> I believe, instead of using dd for copying to the usb-stick, one might want >> to >> use dcfldd for it. >> dcfldd is en enhance

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Sun 01 Sep 2024 at 17:20:41 (+0200), Hans wrote: > > So your command line would read … > > > > # … … > > I believe, instead of using dd for copying to the usb-stick, one might want > to > use dcfldd for it. > > dcfldd is en enhanced version of dd with hashsum check during copy. It was >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Hans
> So your command line would read … > > # … … > > Cheers, > David. I believe, instead of using dd for copying to the usb-stick, one might want to use dcfldd for it. dcfldd is en enhanced version of dd with hashsum check during copy. It was created for forensic matters, where no data may hav

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread David Wright
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 09:59:47PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > > > with an .iso? > > > > > > > > Can it be coverted to

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 01:31:28PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I plug in a USB stick (which will get completely overwritten), check from the logs what its device name is (/dev/sdX), then, as root, execute: # dd bs=1M if=debian…amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdX # sync and wait for the prompt af

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 01, 2024 at 01:19:45 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 8/31/24 23:16, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:15 PM David Christensen wrote: > > > On 8/30/24 20:48, John Conover wrote: > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > > > with an .iso? >

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread debian-user
Lee wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? > > > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch04s03.en.html > > # cp debian.iso /dev/sdX You missed the nex

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread David Christensen
On 8/31/24 23:16, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:15 PM David Christensen wrote: On 8/30/24 20:48, John Conover wrote: What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do with an .iso? When I input that string into a computer running Debian, it produces an error message: 20

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-09-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > > The disadvantage of this method is how to check the USB has a good copy. Gene Heskett wrote: > Why should that be difficult? Just do a sha### sum on the device itself. The difficulty is that media often are willing to hand out more bytes than were written when copying

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 11:15 PM David Christensen < dpchr...@holgerdanske.com> wrote: > On 8/30/24 20:48, John Conover wrote: > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? > > When I input that string into a computer running Debian, it produces an > error message: > > 2024-0

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread gene heskett
On 8/31/24 23:00, David Wright wrote: On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do with an .iso? Can it be coverted to a USB. How? https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch04s03.e

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 15:20:46 (-0700), David Christensen wrote: > On 8/30/24 20:48, John Conover wrote: > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? > > When I input that string into a computer running Debian, it produces > an error message: > > 2024-08-31 13:07:57 dpchris

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread David Wright
On Sat 31 Aug 2024 at 14:09:45 (-0400), Lee wrote: > On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? > > > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? > > https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch04s03.en.html > > # cp de

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 5:20 PM john doe wrote: > On 8/31/24 05:48, John Conover wrote: > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? A .iso file is a disk image file stored it ISO 9660 file format. An iso is essentially and image of a CD or DVD. You can burn the iso

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread David Christensen
On 8/30/24 20:48, John Conover wrote: What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do with an .iso? When I input that string into a computer running Debian, it produces an error message: 2024-08-31 13:07:57 dpchrist@laalaa ~ $ echo $PS1 ; cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a \n\D{%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread Joe B
On August 30, 2024 8:48:38 PM PDT, cono...@panix.com wrote: > >What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do >with an .iso? > >Can it be coverted to a USB. How? > A netinst iso is just a smaller iso to install Debian. It doesn't have the full desktop or everything the DVD and regular iso has. You

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread Lee
On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 1:31 AM John Conover wrote: > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > with an .iso? > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch04s03.en.html # cp debian.iso /dev/sdX

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread john doe
On 8/31/24 05:48, John Conover wrote: What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do with an .iso? You have enough data in the iso file to start a Debian installation, most of the PKGs will be fetched from the internet. Can it be coverted to a USB. How? cp . -- John Doe

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread tomas
On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 11:53:26PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 30 Aug 2024 at 20:48:38 (-0700), John Conover wrote: > > > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > > with an .iso? > > > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? > > I plug in a USB stick (which will get completely overw

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, John Conover wrote: > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do with an .iso? > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? I had some difficulties to parse these questions. Since others read them as question how to make a bootable USB stick from a netinst ISO image, i add my two cents: https://

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-30 Thread George at Clug
On Saturday, 31-08-2024 at 13:48 cono...@panix.com (john conover) wrote: > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > with an .iso? > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? I used to use cp # cp my-iso-file.iso /dev/sde   (where the USB was /dev/sde) However today I used gnome-multi-writer

Re: Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-30 Thread David Wright
On Fri 30 Aug 2024 at 20:48:38 (-0700), John Conover wrote: > > What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do > with an .iso? > > Can it be coverted to a USB. How? I plug in a USB stick (which will get completely overwritten), check from the logs what its device name is (/dev/sdX), then, as root

Usage: "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso"

2024-08-30 Thread John Conover
What does a "debian ... amd64-netinst.iso" do with an .iso? Can it be coverted to a USB. How? Thanks, John -- John Conover, cono...@panix.com, http://www.johncon.com/